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Multiple Xbox's, game fuel and ports...
« on: February 10, 2012, 07:00:10 AM »

Ok, I decided to monitor my internet sessions on my router while my son was logging into XBL and playing a game of MW3 on his Xbox (Xbox #2).  I saw the correct IP address show up in the logs but not once the whole time he was playing was the priority set to what I had set up in Game fuel, it was the default high priority of 128. (I use the XBL sticky guide)
Then I noticed his Xbox was not listing port 3074 next the IP but some other random port in the 17000's range, so that explains why his Xbox was not using my GF rules.

I looked at the system info in the Xbox dash board and it had this same port number listed there as well and not 3074.
So I changed the GF rules from just isolating port 53 and 3074 and included all the ports 1-65535 in the manual rule and had him play another game.

This time I saw the correct priority settings applied to his Xbox but it was only four times (connections) with a "state" of "est" and the rest of the connections that came from his Xbox had a priority of 128.  The "state" for each of these connections were a dash (-).  I double checked the IP ranges and the port ranges in my GF rule and they were within the GF range to have the higher priority.  These were outbound connections so I would think it should have the prioirty setting I entered in the GF rules????

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Why is Xbox#2 using a port in the 17000 and not port 3074?
Why doesn't all the out bound traffic have the priority setting I have entered in my GF rules? because they were UDP and not TCP???




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Re: Multiple Xbox's, game fuel and ports...
« Reply #1 on: February 10, 2012, 07:25:36 AM »

Is gaming performance good or seem laggy when in this condition?
>DGL-4500 Gaming and Gamefuel for XBL

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http://forums.dlink.com/index.php?topic=65732.0
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Re: Multiple Xbox's, game fuel and ports...
« Reply #2 on: February 10, 2012, 07:43:54 AM »

More info:
I may have an answer to why not all the out going ports had the correct priroty in the log,  when I first created the GF rule I only selected protocol UDP but I changed it to both and I thought I tested after I fixed the rule but maybe I did not.
Anyway, I can test that again tonight however what concerns me right now is why XBOX#2 using a different port?

I guess that explains why my som lags a lot when we play together, his pritory is 128 and mine is 40....

Furry, my Xbox has the correct port associated with it, port 3074 so the GF rules work for my Xbox.  I have not played on his Xbox in a loing time so I am not sure if he is lagging.
However with the way the GF rules were set up, XBOX#2 was using the built in GF rules
I know he lags when we play together.

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Re: Multiple Xbox's, game fuel and ports...
« Reply #3 on: February 10, 2012, 08:01:51 AM »

Are you using the same rule to include his xbox in the range or do you have different rules set up for each xbox?

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Re: Multiple Xbox's, game fuel and ports...
« Reply #4 on: February 10, 2012, 08:06:47 AM »

Here is how I had the GF rules set up.  I have the local IP range crossed out but both Xbox IP's were included in the range.  As you can see it does not include that 17000's port that his Xbox uses.  I know how to fix this, just not sure why his XBOX is using a different port?

Does your XBOX's alll use the same port or different ports?



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Re: Multiple Xbox's, game fuel and ports...
« Reply #5 on: February 10, 2012, 08:18:04 AM »

It's possible that only 1 xbox can connect to 3074 at a time and could be that if your turn your xbox on first and your sons 2ndly, the router could be doing something else. What happens if you let your son log in first and get connect then you? Same thing? And if you change FROM and TO ports from 3074 to 0-65535, does his xbox connect correctly then to 3074 or is 17000 still seen?

I don't have my 4500 online at the moment however will try this next week.
What FW version is currently loaded?
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Re: Multiple Xbox's, game fuel and ports...
« Reply #6 on: February 10, 2012, 08:27:23 AM »

FW 1.23NA is installed.
When I ran this test, only his XBOX was on.  yes his xbox when I changed the port range stayed in the 17000 range, this port number did not change, it was static.  I just forget what the exaxt port i# was at the moment but it did not change to 3074 or any other port while running these tests.

I may just create a separtate rule his Xbox and ports or I can just leave it to one rule and cover all the ports 0-65535.

I am wonder if other people who have mulitple Xbox set-ups if their router is doing the same thing? if so, they will need to update thei GF rules too.
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Re: Multiple Xbox's, game fuel and ports...
« Reply #7 on: February 10, 2012, 08:37:09 AM »

Having a buddy of mine check his set up right now. He's got 2 xboxes and the 4500. Will have him post his results.

Can you give a step by step details on how you did your testing so he can review it and try the same thing?

How is your xboxes connected to the 4500, wired or wireless?

Also can you post a picture of your internet sessions with the 17000 entries?
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Re: Multiple Xbox's, game fuel and ports...
« Reply #8 on: February 10, 2012, 08:42:02 AM »

Yes both are hard wired.  The test is easy, just log into XBL and MW3 pull up the internet session in the router under "status"  have him look at the local column for each Xbox and see what port is being used next to each XBOX IP address and what the priority is under the priorty column, 128 as you know is the default priority.
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Re: Multiple Xbox's, game fuel and ports...
« Reply #9 on: February 10, 2012, 08:51:27 AM »

Ok will post results...if we can. ;D
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Re: Multiple Xbox's, game fuel and ports...
« Reply #10 on: February 10, 2012, 09:22:56 AM »

Ok, heres a screen capture  I see his is doing the same thing however isn't using 17000 like yours is. IPs for his xboxes are .30 and .31.

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Re: Multiple Xbox's, game fuel and ports...
« Reply #11 on: February 10, 2012, 09:48:27 AM »

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Re: Multiple Xbox's, game fuel and ports...
« Reply #12 on: February 10, 2012, 10:09:10 AM »

Hmm, it looks like his Xbox's are using the same ports 3074 though, unlike my sons Xbox but his priority is also 128 but I am not sure how he has his GF rules set up.

Keep in mind I did see the correct priority for 4 connections when I updated the GF rules however every connection after that went to 128.  I will have to test again now that I know I have the protocol set to both and not just TCP.

My sons Xbox is a slim and my Xbox is the older white one, I wonder if this has anything to do with port assignment.  I find it odd that when I went in the system setting it listed the IP and the port #17510 in the dashboard.

Okay I forgot I sent myself a screen shot of his Xbox.  His Xbox is .198 and my PC is .199.  as you can see the priority settings are working for my PC just not for Xbox #2 in this pic.
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Re: Multiple Xbox's, game fuel and ports...
« Reply #13 on: February 10, 2012, 10:17:03 AM »

Actually I think your buddies is working correctly if he has the same rules as have I listed above for my xbox's.  It looks like that every 3074 port that had 128 as priority was out of the IP range for the GF rules?
How does he have GF set up?
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Re: Multiple Xbox's, game fuel and ports...
« Reply #14 on: February 10, 2012, 10:19:15 AM »

Very strange...I asked him to take a capture of his GF rules list.
Does your sons xbox do this when yours is turned off?
I have his set up like mine and whats in the sticky, IP ranges vs ports. Only using 53 and 3074. Priority 1 I believe. No PT or anything else.
I'll ask what model boxes hes got. <He's using both new Slims.
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