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Author Topic: Issues with NAT and 2 XBOX's (RESOLVED)  (Read 71779 times)

DrunkJug

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Re: Issues with NAT and 2 XBOX's
« Reply #60 on: March 11, 2013, 07:35:46 AM »

yeah I need the GF working though. Because while I am trying to play games I have one child playing with me :) the other watching movies and a wife who is either playing some kind of game or watching a movie or if she is mad at me because I am playing games doing whatever she can to interrupt me :)

can the DGL4500 do anything about wives nagging you to take out the trash?  ;)
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Re: Issues with NAT and 2 XBOX's
« Reply #61 on: March 11, 2013, 07:36:26 AM »

I consistanly get OPEN NAT on the 857 using QoS and uPnP. I haven't tried with out QoS yet.

Have you set the NAT to Endpoint Independent on the 857?

 
I have the dir857 and just  switched back to the 4500.
3 Xbox's 3, 3 copies of Halo 4 and 3 different Gamertags (Me and my two boys)
with just uPnp enabled I get open Nat consistently on all three Xbox's. no other QoS enabled.
reserved Ip's and Nat set to endpoint independent.
with the Dir-857.....that's a different story one is always switching from open to moderate
The 4500 is rock solid for me.
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Re: Issues with NAT and 2 XBOX's
« Reply #62 on: March 11, 2013, 07:37:54 AM »

It's possible that we need to set up a QoS rule for both gaming and non-gaming devices. Didn't we do that?  ???

I don't think DLink included code for that kind of work sir.  ;D


yeah I need the GF working though. Because while I am trying to play games I have one child playing with me :) the other watching movies and a wife who is either playing some kind of game or watching a movie or if she is mad at me because I am playing games doing whatever she can to interrupt me :)

can the DGL4500 do anything about wives nagging you to take out the trash?  ;)
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DrunkJug

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Re: Issues with NAT and 2 XBOX's
« Reply #63 on: March 11, 2013, 07:39:19 AM »

maybe it will be in the 5500 lol

I don't think that we set up anything for non gaming devices. I have an additional rule set up for my PS3's although I really don't do any online gaming on them.
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Re: Issues with NAT and 2 XBOX's
« Reply #64 on: March 11, 2013, 07:45:04 AM »

Better NOT be in the DGL-5500.  >:(

Ok, there is an example of GF rule with OtherDevices on the sticky, take a look at it and when you get a chance, add this to the GF rules alone with the one rule we set up for your 2 xboxes. Try reloading that configuration file after doing a factory reset then add the new rule for Other Devices.
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Re: Issues with NAT and 2 XBOX's
« Reply #65 on: March 11, 2013, 08:10:35 AM »

will do. It will be this evening before I can get to it though.

Once again thank you for your time and effort.
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Re: Issues with NAT and 2 XBOX's
« Reply #66 on: March 11, 2013, 08:20:34 AM »

What we are here for. Get you the best experience from your router.  ;)
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Re: Issues with NAT and 2 XBOX's
« Reply #67 on: March 11, 2013, 08:23:48 AM »

Hope I am looking at the right sticky. The graphics in the one I am looking at look different from my router.

From what I can tell I need to set up a range of ip's that encompass everything other than the game consoles and give them a priority of 200.

That sound right?
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Re: Issues with NAT and 2 XBOX's
« Reply #68 on: March 11, 2013, 09:01:19 AM »

Yes you got it. Even though the UI looks a bit different, the data with in can be use on most every DLink router.

I would try using 128 first, then test to see how gaming and the other Devices are working while you are gaming. Theres a fine balance here and adjustments can vary. I've heard that 128 is the normal level for QoS as a standard. Then set your gaming consoles to about 50. Thats were mine is right now. Gaming a great with these settings however.
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Re: Issues with NAT and 2 XBOX's
« Reply #69 on: March 12, 2013, 09:16:37 AM »

I made the changes to the router but was unable to test them due to the fact that my wife took over the TV last night  :(

Will post back as soon as I can get near the TV again  8)
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Re: Issues with NAT and 2 XBOX's
« Reply #70 on: March 12, 2013, 09:22:27 AM »

You need to put a block on the TV when that happens sir, gaming and DGL router testing take priority sir.  ::)
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Re: Issues with NAT and 2 XBOX's
« Reply #71 on: March 12, 2013, 09:31:10 AM »

I know right?  :D

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Re: Issues with NAT and 2 XBOX's
« Reply #72 on: March 12, 2013, 02:45:00 PM »

Its true that Port triggers(AKA Application Rules)can help when using two Xbox's, but not for NAT. The only thing needed for open NAT in a game is for 3074 to be forwarded to the Xbox in question. A single port can only be forwarded (or routed) to a single IP. UPnP works by changing that port on outbound to something random that way those two random ports can be routed to the two different IP for the Xbox. Port 88 is a different story though. Your Xbox uses port 88 to sign into XBL. Long story short, the two devices communicate back and forth real fast talking over that port, and sometimes your firewall will block it because the session might be open for the other Xbox as it tries to sign in. Thats why a fix for some issues with two Xboxs are to turn them both off, turn one on, wait, then turn the other one on. If your having THAT issue, or issue with having both Xbox sign in at the same time, then THATS where setting up a Application rule for port 88 can help. But you still need port 3074 for NAT. Make sense?
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Re: Issues with NAT and 2 XBOX's
« Reply #73 on: March 12, 2013, 07:37:32 PM »

Kind of. We never sign both of the consoles in at the same time though. I have them password protected so she can only be on when i sign her in. We have had issues with the garbage that populates xbox live. So i sign her in then i go sign in. We might launch gears 3 around the same time though. Other than that i cant think of why we are having issues.
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Re: Issues with NAT and 2 XBOX's
« Reply #74 on: March 12, 2013, 07:45:09 PM »

Funny, just tonight I signed on to BO2 and NAT was moderate. Game play was still great and 4 Green bars in game. My roommate had already been online playing. I exited from the next game and went and did a factory reset to Defaults in Network Settings on the 360, powered OFF then back on and now NAT is OPEN. All the while my roommate was still playing BO2.  ??? May have been due to the update that was required last night. I changed the specific Remote IPs to global and rebooted everything. OPEN NAT after that. Odd behavior last night for sure.
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