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Author Topic: Internal Wireless-N Xbox 360 Slim capped at 11Mbps?  (Read 79339 times)

kargo27

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Re: Internal Wireless-N Xbox 360 S capped at 11Mbps?
« Reply #45 on: January 23, 2013, 02:29:37 PM »

I tested the speeds wired and wireless on my Slim using speedof.me and I don't think it was accurate.

I used the IE browser app on my 360 and I got about 2.5mb up and about the same down on repeated tests.  Wired or wireless made no difference.

I tested it connected to my 857 and also directly wired to the cable modem.  No difference.  I think there is an issue with IE on XBL and the speedof.me program/website.  I know for a fact that my download speeds are much more than 2.x mb down in reality because when downloading demos, updates, etc., it's pretty quick.  However, I don't know if my Slim is utilizing my 30mb download speed to it's fullest when wired or wireless.  I wish MS made an accurate speed tester on XBL that we could use.  I'm very surprised they haven't yet.
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Re: Internal Wireless-N Xbox 360 S capped at 11Mbps?
« Reply #46 on: January 23, 2013, 03:18:14 PM »

Yea I was afraid of that. Its not so much a problem with the test but how badly the IE app handles HTML5. It can do it, its just horrible at it. It scored a 120 out of 500 on the standard HTML5 test, where my Chrome scores a 461. Then when it comes down to HTML5 performance, I ran the infamous Fish bowl test and was getting lag at the base 10 fish. Even on my laptop I can do 1000+ without any real problem.  So yea, once again a game console puts out a horrible browser. Even PS3's can do flash...barly..but still. Wow. You would think since browsers are Microsoft specially..they would be better at it, but oh well.

So I think the only way to test it is the simple way, find something somewhat large in the App store, find out how big it is, and just time how long it takes to download it. Won't be exact, but it doesn't need to be. Just needs to be faster then 11Mb for proof of concept.
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Re: Internal Wireless-N Xbox 360 S capped at 11Mbps?
« Reply #47 on: January 23, 2013, 03:31:41 PM »

Kargo, might be a good test to do the same Wired and Wireless set either on the DIR-657 or DGL-4500.  ???
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Re: Internal Wireless-N Xbox 360 S capped at 11Mbps?
« Reply #48 on: January 23, 2013, 05:27:23 PM »

OK, I tested my 1st Gen xbox on a wired connection with the 857.50Down/2Up.

Down was 2.49Mb
Up was 1.84

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Re: Internal Wireless-N Xbox 360 S capped at 11Mbps?
« Reply #49 on: January 23, 2013, 06:51:34 PM »

OK, I tested my 1st Gen xbox on a wired connection with the 857.50Down/2Up.

Down was 2.49Mb
Up was 1.84



I'm getting similar results - wired connection from Xbox 360S to 4500 (wired to 857 via switch).  My ISP speed is 20/2.  I'm not confident that web site for doing a speed test via Xbox 360 IE browser is completly accurate.  Just my two cents :)
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Re: Internal Wireless-N Xbox 360 S capped at 11Mbps?
« Reply #50 on: January 23, 2013, 07:59:21 PM »

Yea..thats what I just said. But Im just saying I don't think its a matter of finding a different test, the browser app itself is the bottle neck.

Its better to test it using the Xbox Store. Something free, somewhat large, (1GB+) and something not alot of people would be downloading (so no lag). Then time it, and that would tell you MB per second with some simple math. Thats the only way I can fathom getting a accurate test.
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Re: Internal Wireless-N Xbox 360 S capped at 11Mbps?
« Reply #51 on: January 24, 2013, 07:06:07 AM »

I did notice that the update for IE was 113Mb, seem to download in about 15 est. seconds. I supposed we could delete that app and then try to re-install it?  ???
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Re: Internal Wireless-N Xbox 360 S capped at 11Mbps?
« Reply #52 on: January 24, 2013, 10:05:28 AM »

Did it download on wireless on a Series 8? If so thats +- 60Mbps.
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Re: Internal Wireless-N Xbox 360 S capped at 11Mbps?
« Reply #53 on: January 24, 2013, 10:06:21 AM »

Wired.  :-\
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Re: Internal Wireless-N Xbox 360 S capped at 11Mbps?
« Reply #54 on: January 25, 2013, 07:02:08 PM »

Fellas,

A little off track.  The 11Mbps cap is in-house on the router before it ever touches your modem to the outside world.  Testing download speeds from ie or gauging speeds based off of downloads just tests external speeds through your ISP.  Given, if you have a 30mbps connection, you should see a bottle neck, but it's not as drastic as the bottle neck from 260mbps to 11mbps.

On the other hand...

Windows Media Center Extender features a great network tuner with a graph that shows real time connection speeds in-house.  There are no numbers on the graph, but you can see real time connections clear as day.  Ever try windows media center extender app?  It's free with Windows 7 computers.  Give it a try.  The Network tuner in graph view tells the whole story.  No external speedtest.net or ie html5 to confuse the issue or detract from the fact that there's a serious bug in the firmware.

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Re: Internal Wireless-N Xbox 360 S capped at 11Mbps?
« Reply #55 on: January 25, 2013, 07:32:32 PM »

I disagree. I have seen people saying the listed connection rate is dynamic, changed based on use. On top of that, some people saw rates as low as 1Mbps listed. I feel if it was truly bottle necking the connection at those speeds, we would be hearing ALOT more on it. I posted a thread on Xbox forums..not a single hit, so something doesn't add up. So the only thing I wanted to test was if the Xbox could download something faster then 11Mbps even if the rate said 11Mbps. If so, then it would make the problem a status reporting glitch, and not a throughput problem.

But yea, if you have some way to test it based on actually transfer rates, and not connections rates, please post your data in detail.
« Last Edit: January 25, 2013, 07:36:38 PM by Hard Harry »
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Re: Internal Wireless-N Xbox 360 S capped at 11Mbps?
« Reply #56 on: January 26, 2013, 06:11:06 PM »

OK... some pics.  Note, reported speeds from the web interface directly relate to the real-time link between my windows 7 machine (hardwired), and my Xbox 360 S (internal wireless).  Transfers occur in house only, no streaming though my ISP.  This is a great reason why you would actually purchase 300-600 mbps capable routers... home streaming.  

Condition 1: Xbox 360 internal wireless
DIR 827
Web Interface Reported Speed: 11 mbps
see: MC-11mbps and 827-11mbps

http://www.flickr.com/photos/77950197@N04/8417730561/sizes/m/in/photostream/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/77950197@N04/8417730969/sizes/m/in/photostream/


Condtion 2: Xbox 360 connected with Wireless Bridge (Linksys/Cisco WET610N)
DIR 827
Web Interface Reported Speed: 246 mbps
see: MC-246mbps and 827-246mbps

http://www.flickr.com/photos/77950197@N04/8418822434/sizes/m/in/photostream/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/77950197@N04/8418822968/sizes/m/in/photostream/


Condition 3: Xbox 360 connected with internal wireless
DIR 655
Web Interface Reported Speed: 52 mbps
see: MC-52mbps and 655-52mbps

http://www.flickr.com/photos/77950197@N04/8418822618/sizes/m/in/photostream/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/77950197@N04/8417731125/sizes/m/in/photostream/
« Last Edit: January 26, 2013, 06:20:24 PM by Slomar »
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Re: Internal Wireless-N Xbox 360 S capped at 11Mbps?
« Reply #57 on: February 05, 2013, 05:41:57 PM »

Gents, new to the forum.  I have 2 XBOX slims and DIR 827.  When I got the 827 back in June I reported the XBOX's capped at 11 Mbps.  Had a few fruitless email exchanges then they suggested I needed to call in to discuss.  I'm also a Media Centre nut.  I needed to get the Xbox's onto the 5 GHz band anyway to get around wireless phone and microwave interference, so I got an external n adapter for the one box and put the other on a DAP and dropped the support call.

I recently got a shiny new Lumia WP phone and found it was maxing out on N at around 58 Mbps, sometimes dropping as low as 5.5.  These results were with the phone 6 ft away from the 827.  So, I picked up the previous case and called in.  We updated firmware to 1.04, twiddled a few other settings - no joy.  RMA'd the 827.  Installed the replacement unit tonight - same result.  :'(
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Re: Internal Wireless-N Xbox 360 S capped at 11Mbps?
« Reply #58 on: February 05, 2013, 05:50:57 PM »

Why not call in and talk to someone, say level 3 or higher?
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Re: Internal Wireless-N Xbox 360 S capped at 11Mbps?
« Reply #59 on: February 06, 2013, 07:22:45 PM »

Sure.  How would I do that?  Not familiar with the levels...
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