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Author Topic: Trying to upgrade a drive  (Read 12213 times)

Cliff

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Re: Trying to upgrade a drive
« Reply #15 on: June 10, 2010, 05:02:38 AM »

Not a problem Jamie, I appreciate your (and others) help with this.
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Cliff

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Re: Trying to upgrade a drive
« Reply #16 on: June 10, 2010, 10:08:58 AM »

Just to recap. I backed up my 1TB drive, 700GB in use - 20 hours.
Then I installed the 2TB and started the restore: 25 hours.

Somehow, this just doesn't seem right to me.
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dosborne

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Re: Trying to upgrade a drive
« Reply #17 on: June 10, 2010, 10:20:53 AM »

Writing operations always take longer than reading operations.
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Cliff

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Re: Trying to upgrade a drive
« Reply #18 on: June 10, 2010, 10:23:41 AM »

Yes, I understand that. What I would thought would have made more sense would be install the new drive and then do an internal copy from one nas drive to the other. Then pop out the 1TB and replace it with the original 'other' 1TB drive. I would think/hope the transfer speed would approach what we are used to seeing for SATA drives.
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gunrunnerjohn

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Re: Trying to upgrade a drive
« Reply #19 on: June 10, 2010, 12:16:41 PM »

Well, maybe not that fast. :)  I know it's painfully slow to deal with them over the network, but there isn't that much processor available even locally to hit those speeds. :)
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Cliff

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Re: Trying to upgrade a drive
« Reply #20 on: June 10, 2010, 12:34:21 PM »

My adventure continues!

As we know, I'm now restoring data to the 2TB drive from my PC. Everything is going well. With jumbo frames set to 8K I'm seeing about 12.5MB/sec.

BUT. Now when I go into the configuration side of the web interface I get this screen every single time.
(sorry, don't know how to insert an image or attach a file)
Hard Drive Configuration
This section allows you to setup a RAID configuration on the selected hard drives. Please note that the data stored on the drives will be erased during the formatting process.
 Select a RAID type:     
          Standard (Individual Disks)
       JBOD (Linear - Combines Both Disks)
       RAID 0 (Striping - Best Performance)
       RAID 1 (Mirroring - Keeps Data Safe)

I don't want the drives raided, the first option is selected. It lists the two drives correctly. I click SKIP and it goes to the config screen. I tried clicking NEXT and it prompts to format the drives.

I'd really like the NAS to just accept the drives the way they are.
Any suggestions are appreciated. Thanks!

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jamieburchell

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Re: Trying to upgrade a drive
« Reply #21 on: June 10, 2010, 02:06:43 PM »

You say after a reset it didn't do that anymore- then you formatted your drives ok and all was well, but since copying the files back the problem has reappeared?
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Cliff

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Re: Trying to upgrade a drive
« Reply #22 on: June 10, 2010, 02:10:19 PM »

It would seem this message pops up anytime a drive is inserted into the box, whether it needs formatting or not.

I think what I have to do is another reset to factory defaults after the massive copy finishes. I sure hope that works, these copies take a long time.

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Cliff

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Re: Trying to upgrade a drive
« Reply #23 on: June 10, 2010, 08:26:31 PM »

The adventure STILL continues.
Doing a factory reset did clear out the opening RAID/format dialogue, so that is good.

But now, the new 2TB is formatted as 1TB!
I'm running 1.08. Should I just reformat the drive and start again? BTW, the WD drive is on the supported drive list.



HARD DRIVE INFO :

Total Drive(s):    2
   
Volume Name:    Volume_1
Volume Type:    Standard
Total Hard Drive Capacity:    983454 MB
Used Space:                    800423 MB
Unused Space:                    183030 MB
Volume Name:    Volume_2
Volume Type:    Standard
Total Hard Drive Capacity:    983454 MB
Used Space:                    521734 MB
Unused Space:                    461719 MB

PHYSICAL DISK INFO :
Slot            Vendor    Model                    Serial Number            Size
Right    Seagate    ST31000340AS            9QJ1Y1QC                    1000 G    
Left            WDC    WD20EADS-00R6B0    WD-WCAVY1856445    2000 G    
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Cliff

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Re: Trying to upgrade a drive
« Reply #24 on: June 10, 2010, 09:55:56 PM »

I'll answer my own post. I have no idea why, but I reformatted as EXT2 again, and all is good. Just kicked off the 12 (?) hour restore.

I think my adventure is coming to an end.
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jamieburchell

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Re: Trying to upgrade a drive
« Reply #25 on: June 11, 2010, 05:51:33 AM »

Nope - no idea either only that if you had a RAID array on their before it might have something to do with it. It would have only used 1TB of the 2TB drive when you created one.

EXT3 is apparently more reliable a file system than EX2 btw.

If there's a next time, maybe load an external tool on those drives to remove the partitions/write zeros over the drive to make sure the NAS sees it as a fresh drive.
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Cliff

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Re: Trying to upgrade a drive
« Reply #26 on: June 11, 2010, 05:55:40 AM »

No raid in place, don't quite understand the point of raid on a box like this. But I'm glad it formatted to the right size.

My understanding, probably flawed, is that EXT3 has journaling which makes more sense in a computer scenario where files may need to be restored in the event of a power failure. I also saw that EXT2 performs better which is more important to me.

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gunrunnerjohn

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Re: Trying to upgrade a drive
« Reply #27 on: June 11, 2010, 05:58:17 AM »

If you're running EXT2, I'd suggest a UPS to ride out any power issues.  I've formatted my D-Link NAS boxes EXT3 to have the extra security of journaling.
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Cliff

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Re: Trying to upgrade a drive
« Reply #28 on: June 11, 2010, 06:16:51 AM »

Thanks for the advice.
In my case, I use it for my music collection, video collection, backup of PC's in the home and backup of software. So 99% of operations are read instead of write.

If I was using it in some type of database read/write scenario I think a power failure would be a bigger issue. BTW, the reason I don't use for daily use is the poor performance.
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gunrunnerjohn

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Re: Trying to upgrade a drive
« Reply #29 on: June 11, 2010, 06:19:13 AM »

The very reason I now have a Synology DS209 as my primary NAS, 3-4 times as fast as the DNS-323! :D
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