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Author Topic: Java (or D-Link) Strikes Again ?  (Read 1720 times)

nullit

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Re: Java (or D-Link) Strikes Again ?
« Reply #15 on: July 18, 2018, 03:10:20 PM »

My 32bit IE does not work. Same message "Application Blocked". Show us your date stamped screen shot, please ! 
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Re: Java (or D-Link) Strikes Again ?
« Reply #16 on: July 18, 2018, 03:33:35 PM »


Both Windows 7 and 10 x64 versions
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Re: Java (or D-Link) Strikes Again ?
« Reply #17 on: July 19, 2018, 10:23:43 AM »

Great shot, but your 933L has different firmware, viz. different live video options.
Options for 930L are ActiveX and Java only, - and one wonders what's stopped D-Link from fixing evolving Java and ActiveX security issues a long time ago for the 930L (and 930LB). Incidentally, have yet to hear of long obsolete ActiveX actually worked for anyone.
Wonders also if 933L firmware might install on the 930L. May be worth a try since the cams are virtually dead anyways.
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Re: Java (or D-Link) Strikes Again ?
« Reply #18 on: July 19, 2018, 11:37:15 AM »

The 933L still uses JAVA. I set up the IP address in Java exceptions as well.

You might check your activeX settings as well.

The FW won't load on the 930L.
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Re: Java (or D-Link) Strikes Again ?
« Reply #19 on: July 19, 2018, 03:52:14 PM »

But your 933L likely won't show a live image using Java. Try it !.  So, too bad current 930L firmwares didn't get H.264 and MJPEG options. Seems like an easy fix for D-Link to implement. - - - Yet, we are waiting !!
 
Meantime, let me check my ActiveX and Java settings/exceptions. Back to you shortly.
 
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Re: Java (or D-Link) Strikes Again ?
« Reply #20 on: July 20, 2018, 08:37:47 AM »

The 930L will never get h.264 and mjpeg options since has been discontinued for a while and the vendor/chipset may not support it therefore it is not an "easy fix to implement". It was one of the first mydlink cameras (I still have mine working 24/7 for years, still going strong) so it will not have a feature set of newer models.

Are you viewing your camera for large amounts of time using the GUI or mydlink.com? If you read the advisement --> https://securityadvisories.dlink.com/announcement/publication.aspx?name=SAP10089 under recommendations there are instructions for temporarily disable certificate verification, or you can use the mydlink apps since they were not affected.

I know this can put things at risk ONLY AND ONLY IF you go to web sites or use applications with untrusted certificates at the same time as you are viewing your camera. So you can disable certs verification, view your camera, and the enable it again before web browsing until D-Link gets this fixed, or use the app. Obvioulsy not the best solution but it is a temp workaround until this gets fixed.
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Re: Java (or D-Link) Strikes Again ?
« Reply #21 on: July 21, 2018, 10:42:30 AM »

@ FurryNutz : Live video in 930L's set-up web page works when configuring old ActiveX for IE following Micro$oft's online instructions but, re. same, we're compromising security much like with the current D-Link recommended revoked Java certificate work-around (SAP10089).
Seems ActiveX hasn't worked with Firefox since version 3, and I really won't bother experimenting with complicated IE emulation for Chrome, - if still applicable.
In Java, using the exceptions list doesn't seem to work, neither for IE 11 nor for FF ESR. Error message reads "- because jar file on different domain is not included on the list", - and how the heck is one to tell where the "jar" is located ?

@GreenBay42 : Interesting remark that 930L will never get mjpeg option. Like for the DCS-920 the datasheet specifies MJPEG as an available video codec and Firmware Release Notes do not mention it was ever removed. Perhaps still there in a hidden WebGUI page which could be (re)enabled.
And yes, there is the awkward temporary work-arounds but I cannot expect people I share the video with via the internet to fiddle around with their PC setting on a daily basis. So, after nearly three weeks in the dark, - and judging by the DCS-920 experience, it's doubtful we'll be notified "- in the event of a new firmware release" this close to the end of support.
It was another short D-Link IP cam run, - too short !

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Re: Java (or D-Link) Strikes Again ?
« Reply #22 on: July 21, 2018, 11:06:42 AM »

we don't need java for the camara's    they work just fine without java...I don have java on the wnidows 10 laptop im on now
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Re: Java (or D-Link) Strikes Again ?
« Reply #23 on: July 21, 2018, 12:54:23 PM »

The use of IE11 and activeX is only a short term work around until D-Link comes out with a fix for this.

Also you can use other means to access video from cameras as well, D-View Cam comes to mind...

You sure you have Java installed correctly? I'm using Java x32 on Windows 10x64 and it's working here for me...

@ FurryNutz : Live video in 930L's set-up web page works when configuring old ActiveX for IE following Micro$oft's online instructions but, re. same, we're compromising security much like with the current D-Link recommended revoked Java certificate work-around (SAP10089).
Seems ActiveX hasn't worked with Firefox since version 3, and I really won't bother experimenting with complicated IE emulation for Chrome, - if still applicable.
In Java, using the exceptions list doesn't seem to work, neither for IE 11 nor for FF ESR. Error message reads "- because jar file on different domain is not included on the list", - and how the heck is one to tell where the "jar" is located ?

@GreenBay42 : Interesting remark that 930L will never get mjpeg option. Like for the DCS-920 the datasheet specifies MJPEG as an available video codec and Firmware Release Notes do not mention it was ever removed. Perhaps still there in a hidden WebGUI page which could be (re)enabled.
And yes, there is the awkward temporary work-arounds but I cannot expect people I share the video with via the internet to fiddle around with their PC setting on a daily basis. So, after nearly three weeks in the dark, - and judging by the DCS-920 experience, it's doubtful we'll be notified "- in the event of a new firmware release" this close to the end of support.
It was another short D-Link IP cam run, - too short !

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Re: Java (or D-Link) Strikes Again ?
« Reply #24 on: July 22, 2018, 09:24:27 AM »

>:(

I've had it.  I'm never buying another DLink camera again.

The ONLY browser you can use to connect to the camera is IE, run as admin because JAVA is insecure.

Now I can't even set up the cameras I've bought in the last year because the certificate has been revoked.  And changing  the setting under JAVA in the control panel does nothing to fix the inability to set the motion detection.

I was able to set the motion detection after disabling Java certificate revocation check in the Java Control Panel (I have a 5030L).  So this is a workaround.  Important to change the setting back after ur done configuring Motion/Sound detection, otherwise other Java applications are insecure.

To admins:  once a new certificate is created, how do we obtain it?
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Re: Java (or D-Link) Strikes Again ?
« Reply #25 on: July 22, 2018, 12:10:38 PM »

Will come from D-Link. Probably a FW update. D-Link is aware of this. Please be patient.
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Re: Java (or D-Link) Strikes Again ?
« Reply #26 on: July 24, 2018, 07:49:48 AM »

This fix will come via firmware for your camera. Unfortunately depending on the vendor and age of the camera updates may take several weeks or longer.
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Re: Java (or D-Link) Strikes Again ?
« Reply #27 on: July 24, 2018, 09:34:53 AM »

I just received DCS-930L Revision B and DCS-932L Revision B firmware to fix the certificate issue. I will post shortly.
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Re: Java (or D-Link) Strikes Again ?
« Reply #28 on: July 24, 2018, 09:46:01 AM »

YAY. Hope the 933L gets one too.  ;D
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