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apb0703

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Reserved ip
« on: February 27, 2015, 04:44:56 PM »

Hello,

I am looking for some help. I just got the DIR-890L today. Coming from a ASUS RT-AC87R.

I have a lot of devices that I connect to the router. Desktops, Laptops, Game Consoles, Tablets and phones. I like to set static ip's for all my devices. I have both wired and wireless devices connecting. I also have a dlink 24 port switch hooked directly into the router.

When I got the 890L, I first upgraded the FW to 1.03. I then changed the default ip address i 192.168.1.1 so it would match the ASUS. This way I could keep all the same ip's of my devices.

I see on the 890L there isn't a place to go in and type in MAC addresses to reserve ip addresses, but you do it by clicking on the connected device and editing the rule for it and enabling reserved ip.

I have done that for about 10 devices. When I try to do more, it won't save.

Does anyone know why this would happen? Is there a limit? My DHCP range is 192.168.1.1-192.168.1.254


Any suggestions?
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Re: Reserved ip
« Reply #1 on: February 28, 2015, 10:47:17 AM »

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  • What region are you located?

At this moment I have 12 reservations setup for some of my devices. I'm not sure of the reservation limit. I'm also using the default IP address of .0.1 as well. I don't think changing the routers address pool should make any differences.

I have a mix of reservations and statics. I use static IPs ON devices that don't need any router management, things like printers, controllers and devices that don't need much or little internet access. This helps save on reservation resources. >DHCP
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Re: Reserved ip
« Reply #2 on: March 07, 2015, 06:24:58 AM »

There needs to be a table where you can assign MAC addresses manually. On every router I have owned you could do this. It makes not sense that you can only reserve an IP address on connected devices.
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Re: Reserved ip
« Reply #3 on: March 07, 2015, 07:41:35 AM »

With the new UI and how they have it designed, not sure it this would be added as a feature. I think they set it up to auto detect MAC addresses and it not really unusual for a home class router not to have this freature. I think D-Kink is going for a more simplified operation for home class routers. Most home users dont have advanceds needs for configuring MAC addresses and just want a quick and easy setup. However, you can phone contact D-Link support and ask them about it and see if they will add it. 
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Re: Reserved ip
« Reply #4 on: March 08, 2015, 12:32:29 PM »

Not useful for a home class router? Really? Every router I have owned in the past 5 years has been able to do that. And they were all home class routers. Ones that we less expensive then this.

Most home users also, would not buy a 300 dollar router. A router that cost this much should have the the capability to do this for a number of reasons.

1. being that if less expensive routers can do it, then there is no reason this one shouldn't be able to.

2. To be able to reserve IP addresses for connected  devices makes no sense what so ever. What if one of my clients that I reserve an IP address for breaks and I replace it. I need to change the MAC address for the reserved IP, but I can't connect the old one.

It seems they are trying to dumb down the router, but in the end they really missed the boat on some features that need to be there.
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Re: Reserved ip
« Reply #5 on: March 09, 2015, 07:33:08 AM »

May have been a feature before however again, these are home class routers and most home class users may not have such needs for some advanced features. Most home class users just want to set up the router and go. Less hassle and configuration is need the better for most home users. Ya I agree that maybe some more advanced features could be added or have a advanced menu for those wanting it, however for was routers do, I presume that at some point there is a level where the designers are cutting off advanced features since the usage of them maybe less on home class routers and any more advanced features and configurations maybe set up for business class environments. I have never needed to configure MAC addresses for my home network. I let the router handle all of the management aside the MAC filtering which I've only used for testing and reproduction of problems. I think generally users are just used to having features which they saw and probably used however with the new design, could be just that they are removed and are handled behind the scenes for some features that we were able to configure manually. Some features maybe done automatically now. Probably not for MAC addressing. I presume if users are really needing to configure MAC addresses that they should contact D-Link support and voice there requests to add it back in.  ;)
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Re: Reserved ip
« Reply #6 on: March 31, 2015, 07:53:47 PM »

MAC address filtering is a must imo. I have been going through all the documentation looking for it. Had I known it didn't have it I wouldn't  have bought it. This needs to be added  as a feature request.
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Re: Reserved ip
« Reply #7 on: March 31, 2015, 09:02:29 PM »

 MAC Filtering isn't supported at this time...not sure if it will be...I recommend that you phone contact your regional D-Link support office and ask about information regarding this. We find that phone contact has better immediate results over using email.
Let us know how it goes please.
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Re: Reserved ip
« Reply #8 on: March 31, 2015, 09:15:54 PM »

"I think D-Kink is going for a more simplified operation for home class routers"

Furry, normally were on the same page, but not being unable to set manual DHCP reservation on a 300$+ router is bull poop and I think you know it, and I quote:
"Setup DHCP reserved IP addresses for all devices ON the router. Setup/Networking. This ensures each devices gets its own IP address when turned on and connected, eliminates IP address conflicts and helps in troubleshooting and maintain consistency for applications that need to connect as well as mapped drives." from your own FAQ @ http://forums.dlink.com/index.php?topic=54498.0   :P

You could do that on a DIR-615, which was specifically designed to be sold to ISP for low tech consumers. Anyone buying this router is not a normal consumer, they are a power user. And they installed a GUI that insults my intelligence at best, and renders the router unusable at worst. My suggestion to OP is to upgrade to dd-WRT ASAP. If this is the GUI going forward I will never buy another Dlink router again.

FYI Emulator I am going by http://support.dlink.com/emulators/dir890l/100/Login.html
« Last Edit: March 31, 2015, 09:27:27 PM by Hard Harry »
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Re: Reserved ip
« Reply #9 on: March 31, 2015, 09:36:28 PM »

THere is Manual Reservation. Its a slider bar. The main problem is that when the reservation is made, and if the device goes off line, then the user can't un-reserve the setting. D-Link knows about this.

I'd expect a bit more understanding Harry.
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« Reply #10 on: March 31, 2015, 09:48:56 PM »

"This ensures each devices gets its own IP address when turned on and connected"

The whole point of setting manual reservation is so the device get a IP before it connects to DHCP. This model does something similar but requires the devices to be on and connected to DHCP, which defeats the purpose of having it IMO. We had entire conversations about this back in the day, and you even put it in a lot of your FAQ's. Seems your troubleshooting style has "changed" since becoming a moderator, and thats one of the reasons I chose not to be one.

As for understanding, that is something gained after debate, not before. I can offer you empathy though, I too have had to talk the corporate line when in reality I knew better. And I only speak so frankly because I consider you a friend. You should know by now I have NO filter.  :-[
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Re: Reserved ip
« Reply #11 on: March 31, 2015, 09:55:46 PM »

You can set a manual reservation....
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Re: Reserved ip
« Reply #12 on: March 31, 2015, 10:13:08 PM »

You can set a manual reservation....

Not without the device being connected. If not connected, won't show on network map on main(home) right? If it is not there, how can I click on it to edit the details to set the IP reservation?  What if I want to set 20-30 reservation, does that mean EVERY device has to be on site, turned on and connected to the Dlink router? I understand IP reservation CAN be done the way it is, but its not as convenient and more resource hungry. Why not go back to the way they used to do it?

http://support.dlink.com/emulators/dir615_revC/310NA/lan.htm
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Re: Reserved ip
« Reply #13 on: March 31, 2015, 10:15:37 PM »

This is a known issue already.
http://forums.dlink.com/index.php?topic=61715.0

Thanks.
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Re: Reserved ip
« Reply #14 on: March 31, 2015, 10:21:19 PM »

So you have joined the dark side already hmm? I think I will stay away from this forum then. Good day.
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