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Author Topic: D-Link GPL/Open Source and DIR-655 Firmware?  (Read 57483 times)

flailingmonkey

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D-Link GPL/Open Source and DIR-655 Firmware?
« on: February 21, 2009, 12:57:26 AM »

I've noticed D-Link has a bunch of its firmware code open sourced, and up on the ftp site.  I noticed there isn't any available for the DIR-655, the closest thing to it is the firmware for the DIR-615 (bgn WiFi router, 10/100 LAN not Gigabit, some claim similar but lesser chipsets).

I realize its not likely that this inquiry will cause it to show up, but I was just wondering if there was a particular reason that it isn't available?  In other words, what determines which firmware is open sourced?
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EddieZ

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Re: D-Link GPL/Open Source and DIR-655 Firmware?
« Reply #1 on: February 21, 2009, 02:42:07 AM »

I think the Ubicom core used in the 655 is propriety, which determines the status. Unless Ubicom decides it can be 'opened up' it remains encrypted.
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Re: D-Link GPL/Open Source and DIR-655 Firmware?
« Reply #2 on: February 22, 2009, 05:47:14 AM »

Mainly if it runs on Linux, then they will need to opensource it.
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EddieZ

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Re: D-Link GPL/Open Source and DIR-655 Firmware?
« Reply #3 on: February 22, 2009, 09:03:32 AM »

There are some non-gpl linux firmwares, but usually this is true.
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flailingmonkey

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Re: D-Link GPL/Open Source and DIR-655 Firmware?
« Reply #4 on: February 22, 2009, 03:31:39 PM »

I figured that it might have been related to the Ubicom processor in the DIR-655.  This is one the reasons cited by people in the DD-WRT project as to why their code will never work on the DIR-655.

However, it looks like the DIR-615, which has its firmware source code released, does have a Ubicom chip as well, though probably a less powerful one.  I'm just guessing, based on it having a built-in QoS engine, and obviously I may be wrong.

Since the DIR-655 is a really great Gigabit and (2.4GHz) wireless N router on the market, expanding on its functionalities would be a lot of fun.  As it is, I can only hope that we still get new and exciting features in continued firmware development.
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EddieZ

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Re: D-Link GPL/Open Source and DIR-655 Firmware?
« Reply #5 on: February 22, 2009, 04:14:19 PM »

I am a great supporter of open source firmwares, so I would second the motion to give the Tomato or DD WRT guys a go  :D
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Re: D-Link GPL/Open Source and DIR-655 Firmware?
« Reply #6 on: February 25, 2009, 09:30:54 AM »

I agree, let the open source community fix all the bugs for "free". ;)
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Re: D-Link GPL/Open Source and DIR-655 Firmware?
« Reply #7 on: February 25, 2009, 09:42:40 AM »

Well for what it is worth I agree, I would like to see D-Link sell and support hardware not software.

However that is not the way we do, and have done business for ages past.

As for why you see no DIR-655 code, the previous statements are correct, this product is not running GPL'ed code so we are not required to distribute it due to licence requirements.
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Re: D-Link GPL/Open Source and DIR-655 Firmware?
« Reply #8 on: February 25, 2009, 12:18:09 PM »

The Ubicom platform currently does not support the Open Source community. It's less our decision, more theirs. however i doubt we argued about it too much. ;)

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lotacus

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Re: D-Link GPL/Open Source and DIR-655 Firmware?
« Reply #9 on: March 02, 2009, 02:09:44 PM »

I wonder what the sales are between the linksys opensource routers compared to Dlinks.. may be a good argument for marketing strategies and revenue.
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EddieZ

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Re: D-Link GPL/Open Source and DIR-655 Firmware?
« Reply #10 on: March 02, 2009, 02:17:14 PM »

Linksys routers do not perform as good as Dlink. Dlink is a lot smaller company and has chosen a different strategy, they won't prevail against the vast resources of Linksys (Cisco) company.
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Lycan

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Re: D-Link GPL/Open Source and DIR-655 Firmware?
« Reply #11 on: March 02, 2009, 03:00:31 PM »

While Linksys has chosen to pair with Cisco, our hardware STOMPS all over ANTHING Linksys can offer.  Open-Source is cool, our products are still better. Who knows we might go that way soon. ;)
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EddieZ

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Re: D-Link GPL/Open Source and DIR-655 Firmware?
« Reply #12 on: March 02, 2009, 03:39:51 PM »

While Linksys has chosen to pair with Cisco, our hardware STOMPS all over ANTHING Linksys can offer. While Open-Source is cool, our products are still better. Who knows we might go that way soon. ;)

In fact that might work out OK. Would take of some load off the firmware dept. when open source geeks do the work for you.  ;D
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lotacus

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Re: D-Link GPL/Open Source and DIR-655 Firmware?
« Reply #13 on: March 02, 2009, 07:14:36 PM »

I wasn't questioning the capabilities between the two companies. I was questioning the hardware on opensource software compared to non open source.

If the wrt54g is seeing increased sales opposed to it's other hardware that isn't so open-source, would d-link benefit from the same strategy over it's own hardware that isn't opensource.
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EddieZ

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Re: D-Link GPL/Open Source and DIR-655 Firmware?
« Reply #14 on: March 03, 2009, 12:53:27 AM »

IMHO that group is not that big. So the market for a good performing standard router seems bigger to me.
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