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Re: hidden network
« Reply #15 on: September 28, 2011, 07:35:01 AM »

Since most SOHO routers default addresses are 192.168.0.1, you can see where it might have problems with multiples of routers being the same network and causing conflicts. However it can be resolved by changing the routers IP addresses, if people are smart enough and know that they can do this. Most users don't know of this or just leave as is out of the box. In which most cases, thats fine. However in dealing with a bigger networks with trying to service many people, it sometimes doesn't make sense to have a multitude of routers when one is servicing and probably has the capability to service all. In these cases, switches and wifi AP devices are preferred. Having additional routers on the same line can cause connection issues with applications and gaming consoles and having to deal with NAT. IT is probably trying to K.I.S.S. and maintain a well balanced network so everyone can connect and enjoy the services. Routers have there place, however sometimes can be over kill or not needed in certain platforms.

well here in romania they just got the idea from somewhere in the trash bin i supose.
so i got a response from the admin here and they say we shouldn't buy routers but buy switches because the routers give ip's that conflict with the big routers on every floor...
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Re: hidden network
« Reply #16 on: September 28, 2011, 07:40:12 AM »

so by adding my ip to the router should solve the conflict between my router and the one outside?
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Re: hidden network
« Reply #17 on: September 28, 2011, 07:44:08 AM »

Not sure what you mean my adding my ip to the router...
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Re: hidden network
« Reply #18 on: September 28, 2011, 07:51:37 AM »

I think he's saying that he should take his network port's IP address (cmd ipconfig) from a direct connection and set the router to that value.

You must set your router to an IP address range that will not overlap with the school's IP address range.
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Re: hidden network
« Reply #19 on: September 28, 2011, 07:56:07 AM »

I think he's saying that he should take his network port's IP address (cmd ipconfig) from a direct connection and set the router to that value.

You must set your router to an IP address range that will not overlap with the school's IP address range.
that's what i wanted to say
by doing that would that be safer for the network?
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Re: hidden network
« Reply #20 on: September 28, 2011, 08:34:25 AM »

The routers IP address can be anything for the LAN side. It doesn't have to be 192.168.#.#.
Can I ask what the WAN IP address is coming from your ISP? Can be found on the Status/Device Info/Wan section. Are you seeing a 192.168 address there or a 2 digit beginning address, ##.##.###.###? Just curious.

I actually use a different address and recommend changing the routers LAN and DHCP server address. When i set up routers for people, I use there house address on there street for the routers new address. So say your house address number is 1719 E 9th St. You can make the routers address 17.1.9.1. This will play an important part on the Wifi as others will probably use the default 192.168 address, if this is the case, having multiple routers broadcasting this address with out any security will not be safe and cause problems. Hope this helps.
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Re: hidden network
« Reply #21 on: September 28, 2011, 09:06:22 AM »

Also, if I'm reading you correctly, your goal is to stay under the radar right? Avoid causing any network issues and disable broadcasting to make detection more difficult.

And don't forget to hide your router under the bed!
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Re: hidden network
« Reply #22 on: September 28, 2011, 02:07:27 PM »

my wan ip adress is
IP Address : 10.0.10.241

and i already am hiding my router under the bed :))
what is it about broadcasting? is it connected to the hidden setting I initialy started the thread for?
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Re: hidden network
« Reply #23 on: September 28, 2011, 02:40:33 PM »

Ok, thats a private IP address and not public so you might see some NAT issues here.

No, the WAN IP address is NAT'd to the LAN IP address thru the router so 192.168 pool you use on the router doesn't effect the WAN side of things. SO your hidden WiFi will be ok unless they bring in a single finding equipment, then your hosed, since your router still is broadcasting a radio signal.  ::) You good for now man. Just keep the wireless hidden I guess.
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