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Title: Exact step by step instruction on how to setup gamefuel to slow down netflix.
Post by: usalabs on December 09, 2017, 12:10:49 PM
OK, I just recently bought the DGL-4500 to replace my old Netgear basic router which suffered internet refusal when netflix was streaming on a wifi device, and the Netgear didn't have QoS, but it seems the 4500 does, but it uses a complicated setup procedures that nowhere on the net does it show how to setup QoS, or as Dlink would like to call it 'Gamefuel', the setup for GF, shows boxes to enter the host IP address range and ports,,, how the hell do I know what that is for netflix?  So I literally blocked the WiFi device using the MAC address filtering, until I can find a way to give a lower priority to that WiFi device.

What should happen is, the QoS input boxes should have a drop down for the MAC address or IP address of the device that needs a lower priority, not IP ranges port ranges,,,,,, it's the devices that need QoS not connections.

It seems that video streaming has top priority over any other connection on any router, especially Netflix, highspeed streaming literally stops any and all connects to other internet places,,, including connection to the router's admin page with a 'Connection refused', until I reset the router, then when I read the logs, it shows the WiFi device is the culprit and it shows address allowed 'xxx.netflix.com,,,, so it's actually netflix that is taking up 'ALL" the bandwidth the router can muster.

So,,,, are there any 'simple' step-by-step instructions anywhere that shows me how to prioritize devices connected to the WiFi?   If not, and there is no way of doing this, then I'll have no choice but to completely disable WiFi and the other devices would have to use cell data instead and I'll run CAT6 cable through out the house,,, it seems WiFi is designed to take up as much bandwidth as possible and leaving Ethernet at a turtles pace.
Title: Re: Exact step by step instruction on how to setup gamefuel to slow down netflix.
Post by: FurryNutz on December 09, 2017, 12:12:41 PM
Link>Welcome! (http://forums.dlink.com/index.php?topic=48135.0)


Internet Service Provider and Modem Configurations

DGL-4500 Gaming and Gamefuel for XBL (http://forums.dlink.com/index.php?topic=10435.0)
Title: Re: Exact step by step instruction on how to setup gamefuel to slow down netflix.
Post by: usalabs on December 09, 2017, 12:38:19 PM
Link>Welcome! (http://forums.dlink.com/index.php?topic=48135.0)

  • What Hardware version is your router? Look at sticker under the router case.
  • Link>What Firmware (http://forums.dlink.com/index.php?topic=47512.0) version is currently loaded? Found on the routers web page under status.

Internet Service Provider and Modem Configurations
  • What ISP Service do you have? Cable or DSL?
  • What ISP Modem Mfr. and model # do you have?

DGL-4500 Gaming and Gamefuel for XBL (http://forums.dlink.com/index.php?topic=10435.0)

Hardware version is not shown anywhere on the underside of the router's sticker,,, the only numbers shown are S/N, MAC address, model number (DGL-4500) and FCC stuff along with a few bar codes, as for the firmware, it's using 1.21NA,  2009/07/09

I use cable internet at the advertised speed of 60Mb/s D/L and 12Mb/s U/L (just now checked my Cox account)
The internet modem is a COX/Cisco surfboard DSA321N

I never had this problem until my son uses his Android tablet to watch Netflix.
Title: Re: Exact step by step instruction on how to setup gamefuel to slow down netflix.
Post by: FurryNutz on December 09, 2017, 12:46:34 PM
Rev will be either a A1 or A2 on sticker.

Are you using the wireless on the 4500 for the android wireless?

Title: Re: Exact step by step instruction on how to setup gamefuel to slow down netflix.
Post by: usalabs on December 09, 2017, 12:53:22 PM
Rev will be either a A1 or A2 on sticker.

Are you using the wireless on the 4500 for the android wireless?

It was at the end of the S/N it's A2, and yes, the tablet was using WiFi for Netflix, and since I blocked its MAC address I'm not getting any dropped connections, I can even access the routers admin page, but as soon as I unblock the MAC address and within 10 minutes of WiFi streaming from Netflix, every Ethernet connected device then shows connection refused, or site unreachable, and not even the router admin page is accessible, and shows 'connection refused' until I hard reboot the router by pulling out the power plug, but, as soon as the tablet is disconnected from Netflix, everything returns to normal.
Title: Re: Exact step by step instruction on how to setup gamefuel to slow down netflix.
Post by: FurryNutz on December 09, 2017, 12:59:00 PM
Rev will be either a A1 or A2 on sticker.

Are you using the wireless on the 4500 for the android wireless?

What frequency are you using? 2.4 or 5Ghz?


After this you might set up QoS and give a priority or the netflix device and set a priority for 200. Then set up another rule for ALL other devices and give a 50 or 128 priority for those devices.

You may want to upgrade FW to v1.23...
Title: Re: Exact step by step instruction on how to setup gamefuel to slow down netflix.
Post by: usalabs on December 09, 2017, 01:26:04 PM
Rev will be either a A1 or A2 on sticker.

Are you using the wireless on the 4500 for the android wireless?

What frequency are you using? 2.4 or 5Ghz?

  • 2.4Ghz and 5Ghz routers: Try single mode G or N or mixed G and N on 2.4Ghz and single mode N or AC on 5Ghz?
  • Channel Width set for Auto 20/40Mhz or try 20Mhz only.
  • Try setting a manual Channel (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wireless_channels) to a open or unused channel. 1, 6 or 11. 11 for single mode N if the channel is clear. 13 for EU regions. Try channel 48 or 149 on 5Ghz.
  • What security mode are you using? Preferred security is WPA-Personal. WPA2/AES Only. Some WiFi adapters don't support AES (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advanced_Encryption_Standard), so you might want to try TPIK (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Temporal_Key_Integrity_Protocol) only or Auto TPIK and AES.
  • What wireless devices do you have connected?
  • Ensure any devices with WiFi adapter drivers are updated.
  • Any 2.4Ghz or 5Ghz cordless house phones or WiFi APs near by that maybe causing interferences?
  • Any other WiFi routers in the area that maybe causing interferences? Link> Use a WiFi Scanner (http://forums.dlink.com/index.php?topic=48327.0) to find out. How many?
  • If you have any of these options, Try turning OFF or ON Short GI (http://www.smallnetbuilder.com/wireless/wireless-features/30969-what-do-80211ns-optional-features-mean-for-you), WLAN Partition, Extra Wireless Protection and HT 20/40 Co-existence if you have it. Also testing with HT20/40Mhz Co-existence enabled will impact results as well. I prefer to use this option OFF. Recommended settings are default. Under Advanced/Advanced Wireless.

After this you might set up QoS and give a priority or the netflix device and set a priority for 200. Then set up another rule for ALL other devices and give a 50 or 128 priority for those devices.

You may want to upgrade FW to v1.23...

OK, I'm no novice to router configurations, especially WiFi.  Yes, I'm using WPA-Personal and WPA mode = WPA2 and using TKIP with AES
 and using my tablet's wifi scanner I found channel 6 is the cleanest, so I manually set the router to channel 6

There other WiFi devices IE routers, in the vicinity, but their power levels are barely noticeable,,, the only other WiFi device is my cordless phone that uses the same freq, as the router's WiFi and that's 2.4Ghz, but the phone is DEC.

Before I had problems with Netflix, there were only 4 devices connected to WiFi and they were:-

1..........Wife's Cellphone
2..........My smart watch, which is only turned on when I go out.
3..........My Android tablet, WiFi is only active when the tablet is out of sleep mode.
4..........A windows laptop with is only turned on when it's used for my business.

Other than that, no more than 4 devices are used at any one time, then recently, my son bought himself an Android tablet, I set it up for connection to my WiFi, then whenever he's watching Netflix, that's when the problems start.

Channel width is set to 20Mhz, with the transmission rate set to 'Best (automatic)'

The router is using mixed mode n,g, and b to be compatible with some mode b's

Under advanced wireless, I have:-

TX power = high
Beacon Period = 100
RTS Threshold = 2346
Fragmentation Threshold = 2346
DTIM Interval = 1
WLAN Partition = disabled
WMM = Enabled
Short GI = Enabled

I'll be updating the FM in a few minutes.

ADDENDUM.
According to the FM check, I do have the must current version (router FM check shows: "This firmware is the latest version.").

Update to FM update attempt.  I tried to update using the router update utility and it said:-

Upload Failed

The uploaded firmware file may not be correct. You may have uploaded a file that is not intended for this device, or the uploaded file may be corrupted.

If the uploaded file is correct, it is possible that the device may be too busy to properly receive it right now. In this case, please try the upload again. It is also possible that you are logged in as a 'user' instead of an 'admin' - only administrators can upload new firmware.

The Gateway will not be reprogrammed.

But I did notice a tomato icon in the browser tab for the router.

The update file I got directly from the DLink support page:- DGL4500_REVA2_FW_124WWB01.bin
Title: Re: Exact step by step instruction on how to setup gamefuel to slow down netflix.
Post by: FurryNutz on December 09, 2017, 04:27:46 PM
Posible that the tablet needs to be in a GameFuel rule to govern it's bandwidth usage. Seems like this tablet is drawing more than it share.

Manually Update to v1.23 as .24 doesn't work.
Title: Re: Exact step by step instruction on how to setup gamefuel to slow down netflix.
Post by: usalabs on December 10, 2017, 05:16:43 AM
Manually Update to v1.23 as .24 doesn't work.

Unfortunately, the DLink support page does not have 1.23 FW it only has the 1.24WW and it seems my current FW is NA not WW that's why the update didn't work.

Posible that the tablet needs to be in a GameFuel rule to govern it's bandwidth usage. Seems like this tablet is drawing more than it share.

Precisely, but my OP, asks if there's a step-by-step instructions on 'HOW' to setup a GF rule for Netflix, I know the local IP range would be the single reserved IP of that device, but what is the port range, and the remote IP range and remote port range?   What if there are multiple port ranges and/or single ports in combination with a range of ports under different protocols.  What if Netflix uses a bunch of IP blocks, along with a myriad of ports?

All I'm being told is 'it could be this, it could be that, try this try that' but 'NOTHING' about setting a Netflix rule for GF.

What needs to be done, is to govern the bandwidth on only the ports and IP address that Netflix use, while allowing a higher priority for web surfing, if I used 0.0.0.1 - 255.255.255.254 for the remote IP range, and 1 - 65535 for the port range,  that would mean I'm prioritizing the entire IP range and every port there is, in existence including HTTP, HTTPS, EMAIL, SFTP, etc etc, and not just an individual service such as Netflix.

ADDENDUM.
After doing an IP block search for Netflix and coming to this website https://ipinfo.io/AS2906 (https://ipinfo.io/AS2906) it seems that Netflix purposely uses over 200 IP address blocks, containing well over a few thousand IP addresses (84,224 to be precise), to avoid QoS.
Title: Re: Exact step by step instruction on how to setup gamefuel to slow down netflix.
Post by: FurryNutz on December 10, 2017, 01:37:38 PM
Please follow the link and select the down arrow menu to find v1.23.
http://support.dlink.com/ProductInfo.aspx?m=DGL-4500 (http://support.dlink.com/ProductInfo.aspx?m=DGL-4500)

Please use this process to upgrade the FW:
 Link> >FW Update Process (http://forums.dlink.com/index.php?topic=42457.0)


Please follow the linked information in the XBL and Gamefuel settings to set up two rules for your one devices that is streaming netflix. Same principle, just make it for the one device and set the priority for 200. Make another rule for all other devices that doesn't include the netflix device. Make the priority 50 first and test.
Title: Re: Exact step by step instruction on how to setup gamefuel to slow down netflix.
Post by: usalabs on December 10, 2017, 04:50:32 PM
Please follow the link and select the down arrow menu to find v1.23.
http://support.dlink.com/ProductInfo.aspx?m=DGL-4500 (http://support.dlink.com/ProductInfo.aspx?m=DGL-4500)

Please use this process to upgrade the FW:
 Link> >FW Update Process (http://forums.dlink.com/index.php?topic=42457.0)


Please follow the linked information in the XBL and Gamefuel settings to set up two rules for your one devices that is streaming netflix. Same principle, just make it for the one device and set the priority for 200. Make another rule for all other devices that doesn't include the netflix device. Make the priority 50 first and test.

The only information that applies for GF is this and I quote:-

GameFuel Rules
A GameFuel Rule identifies a specific message flow and assigns a priority to that flow. For most applications, automatic classification will be adequate, and specific GameFuel Rules will not be required.
GameFuel supports overlaps between rules, where more than one rule can match for a specific message flow. If more than one rule is found to match the rule with the highest priority will be used.
Name
Create a name for the rule that is meaningful to you.
Priority
The priority of the message flow is entered here -- 0 receives the highest priority (most urgent) and 255 receives the lowest priority (least urgent).
Protocol
The protocol used by the messages.
Local IP Range
The rule applies to a flow of messages whose LAN-side IP address falls within the range set here.
Local Port Range
The rule applies to a flow of messages whose LAN-side port number is within the range set here.
Remote IP Range
The rule applies to a flow of messages whose WAN-side IP address falls within the range set here.
Remote Port Range
The rule applies to a flow of messages whose WAN-side port number is within the range set here.

Again, there is 'NO' examples, and where it says Remote IP Range,   what range does Netflix use and what port range, there is 'NOTHING' anywhere on the net where someone has already setup GF for Netflix and submitted their configuration for others to follow.

So,,, being that's the case, I have no alternative, but to block Netflix domain for my entire network using web filtering, and that means any device connected by either Ethernet of WiFi will be blocked from ever accessing Netflix.
Title: Re: Exact step by step instruction on how to setup gamefuel to slow down netflix.
Post by: FurryNutz on December 10, 2017, 06:28:49 PM
For Remote Range, use 0.0.0.1 to 255.255.255.254 is all thats needed.

Same thing happens for Xbox Live.
Title: Re: Exact step by step instruction on how to setup gamefuel to slow down netflix.
Post by: usalabs on December 10, 2017, 10:12:30 PM
For Remote Range, use 0.0.0.1 to 255.255.255.254 is all thats needed.

Same thing happens for Xbox Live.

Ok, so what about port range(s)?  If I were to use 1 - 65535 that would not just prioritize Netflix, but every port on the computer, including HTTP, HTTPS, FTP, SFTP, EMAIL, DNS, NTP, etc etc, I only want to prioritize Netflix only, while normal HTTP (80), HTTPS (443), EMAIL (110), FTP (20-21), NTP (123) and DNS (53) get normal usage.

I also found this from Netflix support, I quote:-

"QoS won't do anything for prioritizing wireless traffic, only WAN > LAN traffic.You would want Wireless prioritization, which you may not have. What kind of router do you have?

Also, with most routers standard QoS is designed only to prioritize outbound traffic. The purpose being to make your upload more efficient. Since Netflix doesn't use upload, I don't see how this would help."

Soooo, does that mean I can't use GF?  and I would need to use WISH instead?   If so, yet another headache is on it's way.
Title: Re: Exact step by step instruction on how to setup gamefuel to slow down netflix.
Post by: FurryNutz on December 10, 2017, 10:24:00 PM
Yes use 1 to 65535.

Using these ranges between uPnP and GF configuration mentioned will handle the prioritization.

You can configure WISH as well for similar configurations I believe.
Try Best Effort Low or Video Low or Background Low. You'll probably have to play with this to see what works best.

Try and see. Let us know..
Title: Re: Exact step by step instruction on how to setup gamefuel to slow down netflix.
Post by: usalabs on December 11, 2017, 10:30:23 PM
Yes use 1 to 65535.

Using these ranges between uPnP and GF configuration mentioned will handle the prioritization.

You can configure WISH as well for similar configurations I believe.
Try Best Effort Low or Video Low or Background Low. You'll probably have to play with this to see what works best.

Try and see. Let us know..

I didn't bother with GF, but I enabled WISH, and in the 'Priority Classifiers, I have:-

HTTP = Enabled
Windows Media Center = Enabled
Automatic = Enabled

Then I created a WISH rule, but the confusing thing there is the Host 1, IP range and Host 2, IP range, I had to leave Host 1, IP range  blank so that it came up with an error, 'Source IP range invalid", which tells me that Host 1, IP range is the source range, and Host 2, IP range is the destination, but anyone that just sees Host 1 and Host 2, has absolutely no idea what they are,,,, those input boxes should be marked as:-

Source IP range -
Source Port Range -

Destination IP range -
Destination Port Range -

Anyway, I entered these details:-

Priority = Background (BK)

Protocol = TCP/UDP

Host1 IP Range = 0.0.0.1 - 255.255.255.254
Host1 Port Range = 1 - 65535

Host2 IP range = 192.168.0.28 - 192.168.0.28
Host2 Port range = 1 - 65535

And that seemed to do the trick, the LAN hasn't slowed down yet, and the device can still stream Netflix without hogging the bandwidth.

ADDENDUM
I updated the FW to 1.23NA, and I noticed the WISH priority list has been reduced, it used to show:-

Background (BK) Low
Background (BK) High
Best Effort (BE) Low
Best Effort (BE) High
Video (VI) Low
Video (VI) High
Voice (VO) Low
Voice (VO) HIgh

And now there's no High/Low, just Background, Best Effort, Video and Voice.

I'm beginning to think I shouldn't have updated the FW.

I have just downgraded the FW back to 1.21NA and all those WISH priority settings now show up in the list.
Title: Re: Exact step by step instruction on how to setup gamefuel to slow down netflix.
Post by: FurryNutz on December 11, 2017, 10:59:00 PM
Is the configuration still working for Netflix and all other devices after updating FW?
Title: Re: Exact step by step instruction on how to setup gamefuel to slow down netflix.
Post by: usalabs on December 12, 2017, 09:01:03 PM
Is the configuration still working for Netflix and all other devices after updating FW?

I actually downgraded back to 1.21NA, so that I could still have the low/high priority settings in WISH, otherwise FW 1.23NA removes the low/high settings and gives everything high priority.
Title: Re: Exact step by step instruction on how to setup gamefuel to slow down netflix.
Post by: FurryNutz on December 12, 2017, 09:49:53 PM
Ok, thanks for letting us know. Glad it works now. Enjoy.  ;)
Title: Re: Exact step by step instruction on how to setup gamefuel to slow down netflix.
Post by: usalabs on December 13, 2017, 07:05:26 AM
Ok, thanks for letting us know. Glad it works now. Enjoy.  ;)

It worked as far as prioritizing devices, but,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

After further testing I think I may have found the problem, (the free advanced DNS service), I disabled WiFi for about 6 hours, and I found, I can not get the to automatically use my providers DNS addresses, I either have to manually enter a DNS or use the advanced DNS service which enables the DNS relay by default, and by NOT using the service prevents all access outside the LAN.  It seems that enabling the Advanced DNS service is mandatory if internet access is required, even if manually entering a DNS such as google's public DNS 8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4, there is no internet access unless the Advanced DNS service is enabled,,,, which I believe is causing the LAN drop outs about 6-7 times in a day, and the router has to be manually powered off (pull out the power plug), then plugged back in, for the same amount of time.  It may look like I will have to dump the 4500 and go back to my old Netgear WGR614 v9, at least that one does pick up the auto DNS from my ISP, but does not have device prioritizing or QoS, which means I'll have to cancel Netflix and just tell my son to watch TV instead.
Title: Re: Exact step by step instruction on how to setup gamefuel to slow down netflix.
Post by: FurryNutz on December 13, 2017, 10:08:54 AM
Then you have the 4500 configured incorrectly as DNS relay nor Advanced DNS doesn't have to be used to access internet recourses. The Advanced DNS services are for D-Links DDNS services that were free back then. We found years ago that there were problems when using ADS. So most of us didn't use it.
When I use my 4500, these features are always disabled. I've always disabled these two features when I have GF configured for xbox gaming with one or two game consoles.

The 4500 should and does auto detect ISP DNS or you can input custom DNS IPs ON the router under Internet/Manual.

When you make these changes you have to either power off ALL devices before you make these changes or reboot all devices to clear out networking and DNS caches to see the new changes.
Title: Re: Exact step by step instruction on how to setup gamefuel to slow down netflix.
Post by: usalabs on December 13, 2017, 11:46:33 AM
Then you have the 4500 configured incorrectly as DNS relay nor Advanced DNS doesn't have to be used to access internet recourses. The Advanced DNS services are for D-Links DDNS services that were free back then. We found years ago that there were problems when using ADS. So most of us didn't use it.
When I use my 4500, these features are always disabled. I've always disabled these two features when I have GF configured for xbox gaming with one or two game consoles.

The 4500 should and does auto detect ISP DNS or you can input custom DNS IPs ON the router under Internet/Manual.

When you make these changes you have to either power off ALL devices before you make these changes or reboot all devices to clear out networking and DNS caches to see the new changes.

Yes I do know about cleaning the DNS resolver cache, cleaning out the browser cache, and rebooting all other devices:-

All Windows devices = command prompt: ipconfig /flushdns.
Chrome -> upper right corner 3 dots -> More Tools -> Clear Browsing Data -> Select from drop down - Clear the following items from - The beginning of time, then check all boxes and click clear browsing data button.

OK, I've completely started a fresh configuration by restoring to factory defaults, and after using the internet setup wizard and registering a pre-configured MAC address recognized by my cable modem (which can only be changed by my ISP), creating an admin password, changing the DHCP start and end address (192.168.0.2 - 192.168.0.198), then assigning DHCP reservations to MAC addresses, as well as running the wireless setup wizard, I've left every thing else as factory default, and only making rules for the port forwarding (DLink call it gaming), and WISH.

If the LAN still drops out and I have to constantly hard reboot, there'll be no option but to revert to my old router, and disable WiFi.
Title: Re: Exact step by step instruction on how to setup gamefuel to slow down netflix.
Post by: FurryNutz on December 13, 2017, 12:01:03 PM
Only other issue maybe the FW version your using. I remember v1.21 having some issues on wireless.
Since then on mine, I have v1.23 and has been and is the most stable. I have never seen any drop issues with my 4500 and Ive had it working to it limits. I'll admit i've never used WISH though.  ::)

Title: Re: Exact step by step instruction on how to setup gamefuel to slow down netflix.
Post by: usalabs on December 14, 2017, 02:18:16 AM
Only other issue maybe the FW version your using. I remember v1.21 having some issues on wireless.
Since then on mine, I have v1.23 and has been and is the most stable. I have never seen any drop issues with my 4500 and Ive had it working to it limits. I'll admit i've never used WISH though.  ::)

Well, I guess it's back to my old Netgear, but, before I changed it, this is what happened 7 times in 1 hour, and being that there's no way of adding attachment images to this post, I have to use my dropbox, and after I changed the router I was able to post this reply here in this forum, sooo, this is the link to a screenshot I took of the LAN drop out, refusing connection to the router's login page:-

https://www.dropbox.com/s/3555xknrdb0xj9y/Router-Screenshot.jpg?dl=0 (https://www.dropbox.com/s/3555xknrdb0xj9y/Router-Screenshot.jpg?dl=0)

To be able to have connection again and to outside the LAN, I have to hard restart the router,,, which I shouldn't do.

ADDENDUM
I contacted a Cisco professional, and he told me of a setting that is present in all modern routers no matter if they are Netgear, Dlink, Cisco, Linksys or any other, and that setting is enabled by default in most of them, there are some routers where that setting is disabled, and is the most dangerous setting that the router companies every created, and that is for uPnP, 'allow users to disable internet access' and according to his explanation "Allow Users to Disable Internet Access This option allows the user to prohibit any connections.  Leave at default (Enabled)  if you want to be able to prohibit any and all Internet connections, which also includes the routers admin page.", he said most people take the default settings for granted, and not bother looking elsewhere, and only configuring the WiFi security and the admin password, other than that, most users just use the router as is, but that uPnP setting should never have been allowed, who in their right mind would allow 'ANY' user to disable internet connections?  So, I disabled every setting in the uPnP section, including uPnP, and I'm hoping this has fixed the dropping out, if not, then it's definitely back to the Netgear, but so far, the router has been running over night and no drop outs yet.
Title: Re: Exact step by step instruction on how to setup gamefuel to slow down netflix.
Post by: FurryNutz on December 14, 2017, 11:03:21 AM
Had you been disabling enabling that feature?
Yes this feature is on the 4500 and older generation models. However is no longer present on newer generation router. I believe D-Link removed this feature around 2008-2010 time frame.

Tell me exactly how you have the 4500 configured. This seems like a configuration issue which something the router is having problems with or a mis-configuration of a setting. IF this "allow users to disable internet" I would use default settings. I've never played with this feature and left it default. Thus I've never seen any issues with this feature for me

I would also update to v1.23 and test however if you can tell me what your configuring on the router, I can test this out on mine which has v1.23 loaded already.

To post pics here the forum:
Adding Screenshots In A Post (http://forums.dlink.com/index.php?topic=58120.0)
Title: Re: Exact step by step instruction on how to setup gamefuel to slow down netflix.
Post by: usalabs on December 14, 2017, 01:05:38 PM
Had you been disabling enabling that feature?
Yes this feature is on the 4500 and older generation models. However is no longer present on newer generation router. I believe D-Link removed this feature around 2008-2010 time frame.

Tell me exactly how you have the 4500 configured. This seems like a configuration issue which something the router is having problems with or a mis-configuration of a setting. IF this "allow users to disable internet" I would use default settings. I've never played with this feature and left it default. Thus I've never seen any issues with this feature for me

I would also update to v1.23 and test however if you can tell me what your configuring on the router, I can test this out on mine which has v1.23 loaded already.

To post pics here the forum:
Adding Screenshots In A Post (http://forums.dlink.com/index.php?topic=58120.0)

I didn't even know what the feature was for, and saw it enabled by default.  The only setting I configured, were the admin and user passwords, 'Gaming' port forwarding, WISH, WiFi security settings, the DHCP start and end addresses, and additions to the DHCP reservation list, everything else was left default.

I found using dropbox is easier.

OK, I updated to 1.23AN (after I saved the configuration), and the update reset the router to default,,,, if you reset your router to factory default, then look at the uPnP settings, you'll see everything in that section is enabled by the factory reset.  If it wasn't for that Cisco tech informing me about that uPnP setting, I would have still blamed the router itself, but since I disabled uPnP and all it's settings, the router has now been running for 6hrs and no drop out, or connection refused on the admin page.
Title: Re: Exact step by step instruction on how to setup gamefuel to slow down netflix.
Post by: FurryNutz on December 14, 2017, 01:08:59 PM
Ok. Keep those settings. There ok to keep enabled and as you see. Are needed.  ;)

Let us know how it goes. You'll be fine. I still love the 4500 even though my ISP speeds are now beyond it's handling abilities.  :-\
Title: Re: Exact step by step instruction on how to setup gamefuel to slow down netflix.
Post by: usalabs on December 14, 2017, 07:10:44 PM
Ok. Keep those settings. There ok to keep enabled and as you see. Are needed.  ;)
The router has been running now for around 7hrs, with no incident, so I re-enabled those uPnP settings, and tested it 30 minutes a go, and a few minutes ago it dropped out, no internet and no admin page, I then disabled uPnP and all related settings, and now waiting to see if there's further drop outs, but I'm convinced now, that it was those uPnP settings, especially those one that allows users to prohibit internet connections, that was causing the drop outs, being that the router had been running for around 7hrs without incident.
Let us know how it goes. You'll be fine. I still love the 4500 even though my ISP speeds are now beyond it's handling abilities.  :-\
My ISP just increased my speed to 50Mb/s D/L and 15Mb/s U/L, not that I've noticed any difference, my ISP speed test shows around 46Mb/s, but that's doing a test on a local system within the same state, but doing a test further afield, across the globe, the speed is around 24Mb/s.
Title: Re: Exact step by step instruction on how to setup gamefuel to slow down netflix.
Post by: FurryNutz on December 14, 2017, 07:45:25 PM
The only feature you need is uPnP, the other two should be disabled. The router should work with out issue if you have uPnP enabled only. Unless you are using some port forward configurations then upnp needs to be disabled.

Speed test should be with any GameFuel disabled. And always lan wired and using speed servers that are close to your location and have good response and speed results.
Title: Re: Exact step by step instruction on how to setup gamefuel to slow down netflix.
Post by: usalabs on December 15, 2017, 08:04:35 PM
Since I disabled uPnP and all it's settings (I don't trust uPnP, I would rather manually set port forwarding), and rebooted the router, it has been running for 1 day, 2 hours and 23 minutes, and not a single drop out, it seems it 'IS" the uPnP allow user to prohibit internet access setting, why it's there is beyond me, it's even there in the 1.23NA update, personally, I think that setting should have been removed from the beginning.

Thanks for your help FurryNutz, the router seems to be working great now.
Title: Re: Exact step by step instruction on how to setup gamefuel to slow down netflix.
Post by: FurryNutz on December 16, 2017, 12:15:20 AM
I use upnp on my routers. uPnP was fixed a long while ago.

Enjoy.