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Title: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on August 09, 2010, 03:49:28 PM
Tear it up people, enjoy!!!  ;D
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: LookIntoMyEyees on August 09, 2010, 06:04:54 PM
OOOhh Snap. Should I start spamming this OT post about how much I love my name ETC!. I am just saying -_- some users are getting cranky. Let me guess furry this post was because I was getting of topic a lot. xD!
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on August 09, 2010, 06:14:06 PM
Not just you.  :P
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: Trikein on August 10, 2010, 09:01:36 AM
I can dig this. Ok..anyone here a expert on ATI and SC2? Having some huge technical problems and hitting a brick wall with their support and forums. I wont hijack this thread, but if anyone wants to talk on PM, it could be greatly appreciated.

Also, anyone have any ISP related problems or questions I can help with?
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on August 15, 2010, 12:46:58 PM
You get ur ATI and SC2 going?
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: Trikein on August 15, 2010, 12:54:45 PM
Yea. It eneded up being a issue with a Windows Compatibility bug. After reinstalling my OS, I found some updates that patches the bug they allowed for a clean install of the game and display drivers.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on August 15, 2010, 12:56:40 PM
Kewl...good to hear...don't you just love Windows LOL. Been dealing with ACHI and ATA this weekend. What a nightmare and waste of time.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: LookIntoMyEyees on August 17, 2010, 12:29:21 AM
Off topic FTW!!!(For The Win)  ::) . Anyways Guys I must indeed say I love this router! Its been the best so far and it is a pleasure to be here in the forums, you guys are awesome. But since this is off topic I will definitely go off topic. How old are you guys? or for those who don't want to say just tell me around what. Personally I just want to know, I am probably the youngest.

Notice: If you notice this notice you will also notice that this notice is not really worth noticing, You will also notice that by noticing this notice you have just notice that you just wasted valuable time. By Chris Aka Lime.
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Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on September 01, 2010, 07:28:11 PM
I see the forum is back up and running. woo hoo.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: macmagna on September 01, 2010, 07:53:55 PM
WTF has been going on with this site? I know the forum is in beta, but leave it up for crying out loud. People need help. This is where they get it!
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on September 01, 2010, 07:58:25 PM
Its gone down once before while I've been on here. Not sure why...I'm sure its probably something having to do with technical difficulties. LOL
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: LookIntoMyEyees on September 01, 2010, 08:18:48 PM
Yea these forums been down before this ain't the first time xD

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Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: Trikein on September 02, 2010, 02:23:02 AM
Its gone down once before while I've been on here. Not sure why...I'm sure its probably something having to do with technical difficulties. LOL

3-4 days of technical difficulties from a company that makes network equipment. Hmmmmm. In the land of system admin, having your site down for even a hour or two is a embarrassment. 3-4 days is bordering on the line of incompetency.

Would a mod be so kind to maybe give us a reason?
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: zippoking on September 02, 2010, 06:32:27 AM
well, it is still "beta"...
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: LookIntoMyEyees on September 02, 2010, 08:31:47 AM
Does not matter if it's still "Beta" they did not improve anything nor they did fix anything. Beta is a term for testing, these forums wen't down for more than 2 days. That can't be a beta face. Either way welcome back guys :).

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Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: macmagna on September 02, 2010, 09:32:48 AM
Figures went down when I had a problem and wasn't just trolling because I was bored. Don't worry I fixed my issue (see stuck button in DGL 4500) on my own without any help (the crowd cheers). If you need to open your router check out my thread. Sorry for hijacking the thread, I agree that an IT company should be embarrassed by having a forum down. We get on our IT department for shutting down for updates at 3am on a Sunday morning for maintenance. This sight was down on weekdays. If I was an officer at D-link I would be hunting heads and replacing them with new heads. 
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on September 02, 2010, 02:37:14 PM
****g  ??? Wow, this is strange...wonder why the word p r o n g is censored.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: Trikein on September 03, 2010, 10:29:07 PM
Well technically it means "a pointed projection". It does have another slang meaning though, that I will let you guess. Hehe

Oh. by the way, anyone out there have a Motorola SB6121, SB6180 or SB6580? Specailly a SB6180, I know their not available to the public normally..wondering if anyone has any inside connections. Legal connections ofcourse, but some how get me on a list as a tester? ::gives his best plllllllease smile:::
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: Trikein on September 06, 2010, 04:13:02 AM
Hey Furry,

Have you heard any news of them bringing anymore ports of Halo to the PC? I loved Halo 1-3, playing with my little brother on his 360, but I can't stand buying a 3rd 360. You would think Microsoft making the 360, Halo and the Windows OS, would make it a easier port then most, yet since Halo 2, they haven't made any others. Any ideas?
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on September 06, 2010, 11:50:00 AM
about the only thing I've found on it:
http://www.bungie.net/Forums/posts.aspx?postID=42962270&postRepeater1-p=2#45608233 (http://www.bungie.net/Forums/posts.aspx?postID=42962270&postRepeater1-p=2#45608233)

Hell ya man, sure would love to have Halo3 for PC for sure. Always enjoyed H1, I didn't as much with H2 as I'm always on the 360 now. Kinda sucks I guess. Get drawn into doing stuff on the 360. And going to be even worse with Reach comes out.

I wish MS would be more proactive on there games that do so well on 360 and port them into PC at some point, even after the game isn't supported anymore, would be kinda of nice to continue and enjoy. What happens when they only see money and really don't care about the lesser gods. We can only hope. Might have to hook up sometime if you want.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: LookIntoMyEyees on September 06, 2010, 02:43:25 PM
I enjoyed Halo series back on the regular xbox it was really great. But now guys come on Ps3 is were it is at, you all need to get one of those and forget them 360.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on September 06, 2010, 02:44:29 PM
In your dreams Looky, I'm sticking with Halo and XBL.  ;D
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: zippoking on September 07, 2010, 09:21:22 AM
Trikein, how is the SB6121 different than the 6120?

And PS3 is waaaaaay better, no subscription fees, less hackers, better hardware!
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: LookIntoMyEyees on September 07, 2010, 11:15:27 AM
Furry listen to this PS3 It only does everything. Btw xbox it only does huhh? FEES? I still got some love for ya xbox!

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Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on September 07, 2010, 11:17:41 AM
When all of Halo is ported over to PS then maybe. I'm enjoying XBL.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: Trikein on September 08, 2010, 08:01:58 AM
Trikein, how is the SB6121 different than the 6120?

And PS3 is waaaaaay better, no subscription fees, less hackers, better hardware!

From what I can tell, it looks like the 6120 hardware in the new case styles. The 6180 and 6580 had dual tuners though, so their a whole different beast. 6580 is just the 6180 with a wireless router attach. Motorola routers though=blehh.

As for PS3 vs 360, its one of those debates that will never be answers. Like Coke vs Pepsi, or Mac vs PC. Im more of a PS3/PC+Linux/Pepsi kind of guy though. Either way, if it wasn't for their hardware problems, I would buy another 360, they have some great games. I just love how they FINALLY fixed the RROD on the 360......buy removing the red LED's from the 360 Slim. LOLOL. But to be fair, the PS3 has the YLOD(Yellow light of death) but there not as prevalent.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on September 08, 2010, 10:08:31 AM
SO is the Motorola SBs any good? I'm still waiting on my ISP to upgrade to DOCSIS 3 here. I tried the 6120 but wouldn't work on DOCSIS 2.O here.

I agree, PS vs XBL. It's comes down to user preference IMO. I played on a PS2 years back. 007, loved that game. Tried XBOX and didn't like it. Then buddy had me try again with Halo 1. Said you'll get used to it. Boy did I. So it wasn't the console that did it. Just the game(s). I love the Halo storyline. And if you think about it, ALL HW has problems. Theres nothing perfect accept for Mac. HEHE. All joking aside, were not perfect, so anything we create isn't, save our loved ones, hehe.

So I'm a Pepsi, Coke, PC, Linux, Mac, XBOX, MW2 and Halo kinda guy. Not necessary in that order.  :P
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: zippoking on September 08, 2010, 12:33:12 PM
I have the SB6120 and its great, I always measure higher speeds than what Comcast tells me I should be getting (20 when I pay for 12!).  Weird that it didn't work for DOCSIS 2.0, its suppose to be backward compatible.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on September 08, 2010, 12:41:33 PM
Thats what I was thinking...Im thinking they might not support it right now...who knows...
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: Trikein on September 08, 2010, 07:45:24 PM
Its backwards compatible but if it gets the message from the CMTS (First hop between your modem and ISP) it will still channel bond, and if the signal for those channel are junk, then it will just get stuck in a loop. So yea, unless your ISP offeres DOCSIS 3 modems, don't go DOCSIS 3 yet. Not to say you should buy the modem from them, but if they sell them, then they have to support them, which means they have to monitor market wide conditions on the node that could hinder them.

With that said, when you do go DOCSIS 3, 6120 is the way to go, hands down. Case cooling is better then Cisco, PSU is better, Chipset, firmware, and so on.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on September 08, 2010, 08:06:51 PM
Oh ya...I plan on the 6120 for sure...ya was online the night I got it months back, he watch me and it to see it it would work. Wouldn't Sync up. Oh well. I need to send off another email asking when 3.0 is being turned on. I've asked 2 times already, that was 6-8 months ago. They said they were close to going public. Yaaa.  :-\
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: Trikein on September 09, 2010, 06:20:52 AM
Who is your ISP? I can ask around.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on September 09, 2010, 11:17:20 AM
CableOne, Boise Idaho
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: LookIntoMyEyees on September 09, 2010, 12:11:04 PM
FurryNutz, Have you ever heard of someone called Shartard? Hes pretty famous on youtube and he lives in idaho! Btw I heard they are doing extreme home make over in idaho right now!. So what do you have to say about that?
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on September 09, 2010, 09:00:41 PM
Never heard of him and don't watch that show. Sorry. I think I did hear of something regarding a home make over.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: LookIntoMyEyees on September 09, 2010, 09:45:14 PM
Kk That's cool.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: Trikein on September 10, 2010, 08:02:15 PM
CableOne, Boise Idaho

Hmm, you might want to try contacting this person:

http://www.dslreports.com/useremail/u/1

He is the Mod for the Cable One Forum on DSLReports. I checked Cable One's site, news blog, local news site, but didnt see anything. They have problems with Usages Cap, are decent with upgrading their Tiers, have some growing pains, but all in all keep under the radar as far as ISP's go. I don't know anyone that works for them, so can't get you any inside knowledge, but did see in a financial report that sales of DOCSIS 3.0 CMTS equipment picked up in Idaho by like 300% in the last 2 years, so SOMEone is doing some upgrading. Sorry I couldnt find out anything more. Oh, and also the 6120 is on their accepted modem list, so thats good.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on September 10, 2010, 09:00:00 PM
Well now that the 6120 is posted as being supported on there web site now. I guess I will call them up and see if it will work in my area. That post has only been in the last month or 2. I looked earlier this year and wasn't on there. They have been going something because I have noticed several down times in the last couple of months and how do i know this? They actually admitted the down times and has given me a discount certificate in my email just the other day. Mentioned that there upgrades have gone well and not so well and apologized for the down time.

So I will look into this this weekend. Might be able to hook up a 6120,  ;D
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: Trikein on September 10, 2010, 10:13:56 PM
I would suggest Firmware SB6120-1.0.1.7-SCM00-NOSH. Some of the other SCM01 and 02 are still buggy. 1.0.3 may be better, but I have yet to test it. Alot of it has to do with how much support they have at the head end. Make sure they keep your old modem on the account so you can swap back easily enough incase it has issues.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: LookIntoMyEyees on September 10, 2010, 10:38:17 PM
Tricky were do you get the firmware for the sb6120? I will be purchasing one soon but for now i just pre ordered model of honor and black ops! I thought the ISP loaded it from there center?

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Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: zippoking on September 11, 2010, 09:54:55 AM
I thought cable modem firmware was controlled by the ISP, even if its your own?  I had always heard when resetting they will update the latest firmware they support.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on September 11, 2010, 11:25:37 AM
Ya whats with FW updates? I just got off the phone with tech support. They said it should work. I'm headed out to grab one. Will let you know how it goes. Hope it works.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: LookIntoMyEyees on September 11, 2010, 01:34:56 PM
Aww you lucky nut! I can't grab one yet :( Let us know! I am excited.

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Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: Trikein on September 11, 2010, 09:51:21 PM
It is controlled by the ISP. I work for my ISP  8)

But seriously, you can go on the forums at DSLReports, find your ISP's boards, find the list of approved employees (should be a stickey) and PM them. Usually all they need is your MAC address(AKA your HFC MAC address) which can be found on a sticker on the bottom of your modem. If your ISP does not have any offical employees on DSLReports, then you can call your ISP and ask them. But the adverage Rep won't have any idea what your talking about and/or won't have access to upgrade it. You can ask for Tier2 or something, but your better off checking their support site and trying to find a email. You usally get better answers from people who aren't trying to keep down their adverage handle time. Hehe.

 Also, it should be noted that usually the most up to date "approved" firmware gets loaded when you start your modem. I say usually because sometimes it doesn't. Also, approved doesn't mean newest.  There is a whole certification process between the manufacture releasing it and the ISP adapting it to their network and testing it. And firmware that kicks arse in one market of one ISP, might suck for another ISP, or even for a different market(town,state,etc) for that same ISP.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: LookIntoMyEyees on September 11, 2010, 10:48:54 PM
It is controlled by the ISP. I work for my ISP  8)

But seriously, you can go on the forums at DSLReports, find your ISP's boards, find the list of approved employees (should be a stickey) and PM them. Usually all they need is your MAC address(AKA your HFC MAC address) which can be found on a sticker on the bottom of your modem. If your ISP does not have any offical employees on DSLReports, then you can call your ISP and ask them. But the adverage Rep won't have any idea what your talking about and/or won't have access to upgrade it. You can ask for Tier2 or something, but your better off checking their support site and trying to find a email. You usally get better answers from people who aren't trying to keep down their adverage handle time. Hehe.

 Also, it should be noted that usually the most up to date "approved" firmware gets loaded when you start your modem. I say usually because sometimes it doesn't. Also, approved doesn't mean newest.  There is a whole certification process between the manufacture releasing it and the ISP adapting it to their network and testing it. And firmware that kicks arse in one market of one ISP, might suck for another ISP, or even for a different market(town,state,etc) for that same ISP.

 By any chance that ISP might be cablevision or time warner :(?

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Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: Trikein on September 11, 2010, 11:51:27 PM
Don't wish to say. Just here to help. But either way I cant help people with their service in any specific way outside of work. All kinds of rules against that. One of the reasons I had to stop posting on AVS and DSLReports. Luckly this forum is not read as much and has to do with something I personally own, so its all good.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: LookIntoMyEyees on September 12, 2010, 10:18:27 AM
HEHE Ok tricky.

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Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on September 13, 2010, 04:08:48 PM
Well, enjoying the new modem. Seems to be doing just fine. Gaming is good. Seems like I have seen more green bars in MW2 then I did with the old modem. Will have to do some DLs and other Internet'g and see how that goes. I'm happy.  ;D
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: LookIntoMyEyees on September 13, 2010, 04:49:32 PM
Well, enjoying the new modem. Seems to be doing just fine. Gaming is good. Seems like I have seen more green bars in MW2 then I did with the old modem. Will have to do some DLs and other Internet'g and see how that goes. I'm happy.  ;D

 Furry you should be happy you got a beast gaming modem and a beast gaming router! OMG talk about jealousy.

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Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on September 13, 2010, 05:39:11 PM
I well I might have the best modem however I don't think it's a beast yet.  ;)
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: Trikein on September 13, 2010, 07:42:50 PM
Yea, it will only get better as your ISP adds support. I just played around with firmware:

1.0.1.7 - Stable and 3 Channels bonded down. Doesn't list QoS at headend= more throughput. Thats probably just a bug with my ISP.

1.0.2.4 - 3 Channels bonded down, just loaded, will report on stability. No erros in logs so far. Performance good.

1.0.3.0 - Did not bond. Reason "Registration RSP rejected unspecified reason". Probably configures the modem to bond using different QAM then we use in my market. Still went online though. Only kept it on for 5min, so no comment on performance and stability.

So what Firmware are you running? If your running 1.0.3.0 and not bonding, may want to ask for 1.0.1.7. If your running that, may want to try 1.0.3.0. Or just wait till it its tested and passed and they will push it to your modem automatically.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on September 13, 2010, 08:06:13 PM
where do you get FW? I thought ISPs controlled that or at least put that out when it was available...
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: Trikein on September 13, 2010, 08:24:30 PM
I think I answered this. It is controlled by the ISP, indirectly anyway. Technically speaking, theres a way to do it without the ISP. Sometimes its easier then other times. For instance, with the DCM-202, you can Telnet into the modem to update it. You can with the 6120 as well, but its much more diffacult and the firmware is not freely available.

So what you have to do is contact your ISP, usually with DSLReport, and ask one of offically recognized moderators to update it for you. These are usually listed on a sticky on your ISP's board. Many times they will go through many firmwares before they find one that they think works the best and then they will test it for a couple months before pushing it to modems, but that can take months. If your having a problem that may be firmware related (IE channel bonding) sometimes getting your ISP to update to a "unofficial firmware" can help. The thing is, hackers/crackers have given firmware updating a bad name, and so its not uncommon for your ISP to give you a raised eyebrow if you ask. But in the end the modem is your property, and the firmware is released by the manufacture, and you have no access to it when it is put on your modem, so their is no risk of gaining proprietary information, so they have no valid reason to deny you. Thats another reason to go through DSLReports so you know your talking to someone who knows what the heck their talking about. LOL
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on September 13, 2010, 08:43:26 PM
Well I can understand all that. I've always been of the frame of mine that if it works don't fix it. Specially when it comes to ISP services keeping track of things. I've always let the ISP take care of the modem. As long as it works lets keep it that way. Internet is mission critical and I don't need the modem to be the critical path unnecessarily. I will look more into the FW updates later on. I presume there could be more now that C1 is now supporting DOCSIS v3 now. I'm sure they'll be making tweeks here and there. Fine tunning it?
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: Trikein on September 13, 2010, 08:56:41 PM
Understood. And is there is much wisdom in your train of thought. I am a tinkerier myself, so I like fiddling just to see how things work. Then again, if the wrong firmware gets loaded, I can fix it with a 30second call, so yea, its different I guess. But honestly, without the channel bonding, your caging a beast, and from what I can tell, it will probably be 6+months before your ISP pushes it to the modem. Still a hella stable device though, with a very senstive tuner, so you got your money's worth.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on September 13, 2010, 09:07:42 PM
Same here I like to tinker too, just as long as I have a safety net. Not sure about the modem here. LOL. Well, I think once they start supporting higher speeds maybe the bonding will come into play. Remember, your at 75Mb and I'm at 10Mb, I'm there there is much more in play and that beast you have is uncaged at that rate. 10Mb might be wasting time. I do notice that I get full green bars when playing MW2 yesterday and I think I had most of the host time. Notice that I was first in the game. I think it will be good. Also we need to figure out how to remote into the 4500's. I would like to learn do to that.  ???
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on September 14, 2010, 12:11:39 AM
FYI,
Firmware Name: SB6120-1.0.1.8-SCM02-NOSH
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: Trikein on September 14, 2010, 08:33:58 AM
[SB6120 Release Notes (Public)]

Its a white paper, so it doesn't try to be easy to read, heh. As you can see, alot has change since 1.0.1.8. The big one is the channel bonding features and the TCP throughput fix in the 1.0.2.0. But its all there. Have fun (http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=2&ved=0CBUQFjAB&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.dslreports.com%2Fr0%2Fdownload%2F1543744~ec8f5c8c7254c6151c9d2d312059a5e8%2FCustomer_Release_Notes_SB612X-1.0.3.0-SCM03.pdf&rct=j&q=SB6120%20Release%20notes%201.0.1.8%20filetype%3Apdf&ei=WJOPTNXZBoSCsQPAsZGyDg&usg=AFQjCNGWbVz5KwRwFfKphODUCMeS9DQt5Q)
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on September 16, 2010, 10:44:45 AM
Well, been down and out in bed sick for the last couple of days. I got to play about 2 hours on REACH, went to work and was back in bed by 7pm. Finally feeling better today. I just happened to look at the modem again and look what I found:
Firmware Name: SB6120-1.0.2.1-SCM00-NOSH

Guess they updated it sometime over the last couple of days. I think it might have been yesterday. System up time is 17 hours.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: LookIntoMyEyees on September 16, 2010, 11:54:41 AM
Hope you get better furrynutz, I am always patrolling these forums even though I don't post a lot since you guys tend to do the majority of the work! You guys are awesome. Feel better Cya

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Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: zippoking on September 16, 2010, 12:34:40 PM
I thought cable modems only updated firmware on reboots?  Maybe that's not true though.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: LookIntoMyEyees on September 16, 2010, 01:15:59 PM
I thought cable modems only updated firmware on reboots?  Maybe that's not true though.


  They do update on reboot, first it downloads the firmware than it installs it and than it reboots. Hope this helps.

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Chris
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on September 16, 2010, 01:37:08 PM
they can force a reboot anytime.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: zippoking on September 16, 2010, 01:37:39 PM
Well I meant that it only downloads and installs the update on a manual reboot, when establishing communication with the ISP.  If that wasn't the case, wouldn't one occasionally see internet drop outs when those firmware updates happen?  Maybe they do it at off times.  I bet Trikein knows...
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on September 16, 2010, 02:24:06 PM
Apparently they can update and auto reboot. Was just done to mine 18+ hours ago...I had no hand in the reboot either.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: LookIntoMyEyees on September 16, 2010, 03:14:54 PM
As furrynutz stated above your ISP can reboot your modem at any time. I have had this happened to my cable box and modem.

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Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: Trikein on September 16, 2010, 07:59:01 PM
Well I meant that it only downloads and installs the update on a manual reboot, when establishing communication with the ISP.  If that wasn't the case, wouldn't one occasionally see internet drop outs when those firmware updates happen?  Maybe they do it at off times.  I bet Trikein knows...

Yea, they can do it anytime they want, usually its rare though. When their getting a firmware ready for finalization, they will look at certain areas and push it out in chunks. Usually they will monitor and look for any problems for about 48hrs, and if so, will revert back. As for the modem losing connection as it updates, yea, everytime. Technically speaking though, theres two kinds of firmware update though. Well..actually theres about 5, but I will stick to the kind my ISP uses. One is when you power up, it makes sure the the firmware that is in place is compatible with the network in the area. That isn't to say that is the LATEST firmware, just above what ever "bar" they happen to set. Eventually they get around to moving the bar up to the latest tested firmware, which causes the modem to update the next time it sync up to your ISP. This could be on a reboot, or network test. The second kind is manually pushed to the modem.  This is usually done when they make a change to the network and the firmware update is needed to be compatible. This is probably what happened in Furry's case. Its hard to say. One thing I can tell you, its not as clear cut as the ISP's lead you to believe. This isn't out of dishonestly though, most of it is the average representative doesn't know, or he does know but its so damn technical, it would take a year to explain it.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: Trikein on September 19, 2010, 10:42:11 AM
Hello, hello, hello, is anybody out theeeereeeeee.

Starting to feel lonly.  :'(

Where you guys at? Hehehe  :D

Oh, and Furry, I bumped into someone IRL that knows you over on a Android forum. Was said in passing though. You rock the 'Droid?
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: LookIntoMyEyees on September 19, 2010, 10:52:31 AM
 uhhh Is someone calling? ohh its tricky "yawns" I was sleeping dude -_-. Oh you feel lonely? That's what you get for moving in a ugly free slow internet speed house :) How are you doing tricky? What you been up to? Tell me something amazing? Hows the DGL 4500 been?
 
Lastly keep up the good work you are the chosen one, Idk don't ask me I did not select you :) . Cya byes. Take care.

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Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: Trikein on September 19, 2010, 11:09:07 AM
Hahaha. 4500 been doing great. I actually took a tip from someone here and put it on top of my Silverstone case (with two case fans on the top) and its been keeping it nice and cool.

But I had a idea..its really crazy, and I have no idea how I would do it, and if I am allowed to do it..but I was thinking of building my own forum. Try to invite some people from here, AVS, DSLM, BC, SC, OC, and other large mainstream tech forums. Try to have a hardcore Geek think tank that could be a fall back, just for other geeks, when they run into problems there trying to fix for other people they can't figure out. I actually know a few people that run forums, who could probably set me up. Hmmmmm..thoughts?
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: LookIntoMyEyees on September 19, 2010, 11:44:16 AM
My thoughts hmmm, sounds great but it would be challenge getting people to go over there but yea I like the idea. What I do to keep my DGL 4500 cool is that I use the mount it came with and place it on top of that and it remains cool. I love my DGL 4500 can't wait for the next generation for some reason.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: Trikein on September 19, 2010, 12:45:14 PM
Yea, the only new one so far is the DIR-632 which is odd. I mean I like the 8 ports, but if your someone who needs 8 ethernet ports, you most likly already have a switch. And if you have a switch, why upgrade just to safe room? Just seems too middle of the road for my tastes.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on September 19, 2010, 01:05:35 PM
The 632 is a nice looking unit. Hmmm, could be a preview of things to come. I think the 8 ports is a bit over kill but on the other hand having those ports could come in handy for those who might not have additional switches and for those who might need connects at the router too. I've got a 24 port switch however still connect both xbox's direct to the back of the 4500.  ;D

Just read the Data Spec on the 632, wonder why they didn't include 1Gb ports? There only 100Mb.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: Trikein on September 19, 2010, 01:52:24 PM
Bahhh. I got to vent here. I just tried getting the new Thunderbird program set up on my PC, and I am sorry, that thing is the biggest POS I have ever used. The autoconfig figure is more fail then UAC. ::kicks it:: Even when deleting the entry from  the :config it restores from back up and forces my incoming to IMAP. If I try to override it, it still tries to use the authentication and ports of IMAP. ::rages::
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on September 19, 2010, 02:08:56 PM
Really, I use it and Love it. Awe, whats wrong, tell Furry. Of course I manually set mine up. I didn't see any issues on my 7 x64.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: Trikein on September 19, 2010, 02:30:38 PM
Well do you have 3.0 or 3.1? 3.1 came with autoconfig which is trying to override my incoming and outgoing account settings. Its a known issue on the forums. I just hate when programmers dumb down applications to try to appeal to the masses.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on September 19, 2010, 02:38:11 PM
Ah, I started with 3.0 and have been slowly updating. I didn't notice that at one point I added a new account and the auto config seem to not work well or It would not config my settings properly. Thus I was able to config ur the new account manually after I got it loaded. I suppose there isn't any other way of avoiding autoconfig or by passing it?
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: Trikein on September 19, 2010, 02:42:20 PM
What happens is I type in my email address, it looks at the domain, and searches for their pop and smtp servers from some database. My ISP does have a IMAP server, but its used for buisness clients, so my username doesn't have access. Thunderbird doesn't care though, it sees IMAP and goes..oh..thats better, I am going to force him to use it. And once the account is set for IMAP, there is no way to change it. So you have to delete the account and try to stop the autoconfig before it can complete incoming server detection. That  litterly occurs in my case in about 1/8th of a second, so I can't stop it in time. So what I have to end up doing is entering in a fake email address (and by the 5th and 6th trying, I was coming up with some colorful email addresses) so the autoconfig can't auto detect. What this does though is makes them test the incoming server via that email instead of testing with the username. And since it can't confirm it works, it won't allow you to save the settings. I think my only choice is going to be setting up the account in offline mode. But this is 10x more complicated then just entering in the settings, and something I could never walk someone over the phone with. So, it ends up being that I will never recommend Thunderbird as a email client. Tis sad too, since its a easy out for those that don't know where to DL the Windows Live Mail program.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: LookIntoMyEyees on September 19, 2010, 03:52:33 PM
Ok I was wondering I am looking for a site that allows me to input a website address and it would tell me the location of the server and who is hosting it ETC. I know it is possible because I knew a website that did that but I forgot. So I thought to myself who better to ask instead of furrynutz and tricky? Those two are genius and will definitely tell me. (or so I hope) So guys help!. Thank you vrey much, cya

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Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on September 19, 2010, 04:24:35 PM
I just updated to 3.1.4 from 3.1.2 and then added an account. I noticed that during the autoconfig, it found my pop and smtp correctly. It kept trying to located more I guess as I saw the progress circles going around however I could select the stop button and it finally stopped. I was able to select the Manual button too. Are you able to stop or select the manual buttons at all?
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: Trikein on September 19, 2010, 06:32:15 PM
Well I got it to work. I guess when I was editing the :config to remove the autoconfig, I wasn't closing and restarting Thunderbird. Once I did that, it was easy. I also made spreadsheet with all the different outgoing server/port varibles. Weeee, geek fun.  :D

Autoconfig is still Fail though. They know it too. There taking it out with the next update. Or atleast the option to turn it off. When they do that, they will again regain my Props. Heh
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: Trikein on September 19, 2010, 06:43:24 PM
If anyone wants to help me with a project, feel free to try out these settings on your mail client. Specailly if your Outside your ISP. Just copy/paste from what I have done, and edit, along with your ISP if possible.


Open GoogleDoc (https://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AkACqo49dkJldGNsR1FhMkhpYWhMX29MYmxNZHg2elE&hl=en&authkey=CNSennw)
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: LookIntoMyEyees on September 19, 2010, 07:22:11 PM
I use yahoo as my mail provider and they don't support free POP, Dam yahoo. Guys any suggestions on getting more information about a site?

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Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: Trikein on September 19, 2010, 08:26:34 PM
Hmm, well heres a couple. The thing is, most of the free one's aren't very good. Usually their limited, or their in accurate.

http://www.ipligence.com/geolocation  (Not very good map)

http://visualroute.visualware.com/  (Hit alot of firewalls)

http://www.ip-adress.com/ip_tracer/ (3 a day)

Or if your serious about getting a decent app, try

http://www.visualiptrace.com/    (Cost money but powerful)

or 

http://download.cnet.com/Ping-Plotter-Freeware/3000-2085_4-10021963.html?tag=mncol

Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: LookIntoMyEyees on September 19, 2010, 08:41:04 PM
WORD!!!!!! Tricky thats amazing, Thanks the one I used to use was Ip-adress woot thanks tricky your are truly amazing I am loyal to you my friend my life is yours (Yea right) How may I serve you?
But for reals thanks!
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Title: Interesting article on the next gen WiFi
Post by: FurryNutz on September 23, 2010, 03:43:59 PM
http://www.zdnet.com/blog/networking/beyond-80211n-gigabit-wi-fi/177?tag=nl.e539 (http://www.zdnet.com/blog/networking/beyond-80211n-gigabit-wi-fi/177?tag=nl.e539)

Just hope everyone gets the bugs out of 5Ghz N 1st.  ::)
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: LookIntoMyEyees on September 23, 2010, 06:57:40 PM
http://www.zdnet.com/blog/networking/beyond-80211n-gigabit-wi-fi/177?tag=nl.e539 (http://www.zdnet.com/blog/networking/beyond-80211n-gigabit-wi-fi/177?tag=nl.e539)

Just hope everyone gets the bugs out of 5Ghz N 1st.  ::)

 Good find.
Title: Re: Interesting article on the next gen WiFi
Post by: Trikein on September 23, 2010, 07:21:56 PM
http://www.zdnet.com/blog/networking/beyond-80211n-gigabit-wi-fi/177?tag=nl.e539 (http://www.zdnet.com/blog/networking/beyond-80211n-gigabit-wi-fi/177?tag=nl.e539)

Just hope everyone gets the bugs out of 5Ghz N 1st.  ::)

You read google news too? :-)

Really though, with the exception of better penetration through brick,cement, etc, whats the point? On cell phones the bottle neck is already the chip and the browser, and in home networks its the gateway (modem). Just seems like a reason to sell more routers.  Maybe I need to read up more on the standard though, so thanks.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: LookIntoMyEyees on September 23, 2010, 07:35:48 PM
There is no point in making the wireless faster nor the lan faster if your ISP does not even support 1Gbs am I wrong or right?
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on September 23, 2010, 08:08:50 PM
Ya. I really think that until ISPs open up some on there connections, really anything beyond 1Gb on WiFi and Lan is just really not worth it for the average home user. I wonder if some of these products are aimed more towards business and corporations that need high speed to xfer stuff. I have 1Gb at my house. Don't really need it but the overhead is there if I need it. Still, 100Mb is good for daily home use. Bottle necks, gotta love them.  ::)
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: Trikein on September 23, 2010, 08:43:28 PM
Ya. I really think that until ISPs open up some on there connections, really anything beyond 1Gb on WiFi and Lan is just really not worth it for the average home user. I wonder if some of these products are aimed more towards business and corporations that need high speed to xfer stuff. I have 1Gb at my house. Don't really need it but the overhead is there if I need it. Still, 100Mb is good for daily home use. Bottle necks, gotta love them.  ::)

Well the AN I think will be for multimedia. Like between your laptop and TV so you can stream HD 3D content. The thing is, there are other, and better, standards which already work on that. I would like to see more work being put into WiFiMax standards. How ever router manafal. don't like that since it could possibly take them out of the equation.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: Trikein on September 23, 2010, 08:48:43 PM
Anyone else noticing the different random internet issues? Huge lag spikes in MMORPGs? Facebook was down/slow most of the day. Youtube just glitched, comments and sub's not working right. My ISP started throttling my traffic from 23% to 41% when hitting the backbone. Its just odd. Its across all IP's though. I have tracked it Center US and East Coast. Anyone on west coast able to confirm?
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: LookIntoMyEyees on September 24, 2010, 05:07:17 AM
I can also confirm this, Facebook was down. It took for ever to download a game onto my ps3. Also You tube was not that slow I still got to see a few videos.

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Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: LookIntoMyEyees on September 25, 2010, 05:22:26 PM
Hey guys, I was recently taking a look at this device called the Nettalk. I was wondering what do you guys think about it? http://www.nettalk.com/ It does have a few reviews and so on.

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Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: Trikein on September 25, 2010, 08:46:03 PM
First, read this (http://www.nettalk.com/privacy-policy). Or more specifically:

"netTALK shall collect personally identifiable information, including but not limited to name, physical address, email address, telephone number, credit card information, and other personal information (collectively, "PII"), from Customers when initiating service and in connection with the provision or marketing of products and services"..... "Non-PII may include Web site pages viewed, time spent using certain services, demographic data, cookies, and other information which does not specifically identify any one individual."...."netTALK will use PII (1) to market products and services to Customers and Visitors that netTALK believes may be of interest to them, (2) to provide services and products requested by Customers and Visitors and (3) to enable its vendors and contractors to provide and assist netTALK in the marketing and provision of such services and products to netTALK, Customers, or Visitors."

So in short, they be all up in your internwebs, sneaking and spying. Not as bad as MagicJack. Review online aren't exactly bad, but theres not a whole lot of good either. Their possibly working out a service agreement with Verizon, but thats probably a year+ away. Forums says there some problems with 800 numbers, incoming calls (when they reset their servers, routing probably gets messed up) and with touch tones when calling automated systems. Other then that, the ethernet connection is alot better then the USB connect on most. BBB is a A, but like previously stated, new company.

Honestly, unless there is no other option stay away from things like this. Its just not worth the hassle. And theres so many other options. From Skype, to Vonage, to Google Voice and Google Phone. A bunch of others too I can't think off. I don't see any major advantage with them worth the price. Specailly since you probably have decent enough hardware to set up your own system. Just my two cents. 
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: LookIntoMyEyees on September 25, 2010, 09:07:31 PM
Right now I am a Vonage customer I am fine with there service. Nettalk just caught my attention. I already checked the BBB but like you said new company. I am amazed on your well detail explanation, I can't stop but to Thank you enough Trikein! Thank you for the help God bless you.

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Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on September 26, 2010, 09:59:47 AM
Been using Magic Jack for the last 6 months now...been very good. Cost is great too.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: Trikein on September 26, 2010, 10:32:26 AM
Why Furry why? ::frown::

There are so many better options, including free ones. It actually installs spyware on your computer. No joke. Thats why in the policy for Nettalk it specifically "our employees don't design spyware", because MagicJack does. Uuuuugggh. I hate it. Its up there with FinallyCleanPC.com and Modern Warfare on the Wii. To each there own and all but.... you have to doabt any service who's prime advertisement is the same group that does Shammo and MagicChop :-)
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on September 26, 2010, 10:41:19 AM
its on a PC with Non vital information...and I didn't get it. LOL.  ;D
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: LookIntoMyEyees on September 26, 2010, 11:02:33 AM
The only free service that exist that I know of is Nettalk and Magic Jack. Magic jack seems the worst choice because it has to be connected to a pc and will be wasting energy so I would go with nettalk. I really would like to cancel Vonage. I mean the service is great but I am not using it as much and it is costing me a lot of money. I guess that's how magic jack makes money LOLZ! installing spyware on your pc. Oh well.

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Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on September 26, 2010, 11:51:28 AM
Well haven't really noticed anything about MJ and the spyware. I've looked and haven't seen any or noticed any issues with it. And it good to travel with too when we do. To each his own.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: LookIntoMyEyees on September 26, 2010, 12:52:55 PM
Furry did you ever looked into the NetTalk device? I never heard that MJ installed spyware, but really I would go with MJ if they would have had a router feature phone line. Do you use the MJ as a primary tele phone service?

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Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on September 26, 2010, 03:14:15 PM
No havn't had a chance to look into the NT option. We use MJ here as kinda of a back up land line as our Bell provider was getting too spendy. Didn't really use the land line as much and mostly use cell phone. However have someone that works from home so they still need land line capabilities.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: Trikein on September 27, 2010, 08:14:03 PM
Well it depends how you define "free" If you mean not paying for anything, Google Voice, Google Talk, the lesser form of Skype, are all free. If your talking about only having to pay for equipment, look into a service called Ooma. Much less shady. As for MJ, yea, the driver for the device actually installs a form of spyware in the background of your computer that monitors web activity. It's in the TOS that they can sell this information to 3rd parties for advertisment reasons. Also, it can monitor your call records, but it doesn't sell this to third parties, it does how ever keep it on record for undefined reasons. Honestly though, thats how these companies make money. Either advertisments/selling info (MJ and NT) subscription (Premiew Skype and Vonage) or profits from the intial equipment investments. Ooma's been around a few years now and their equipment is higher end. Ooma's Site (http://www.ooma.com/products)
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: LookIntoMyEyees on September 27, 2010, 09:10:04 PM
I have already done my research on Ooma seems pretty good but expensive. Thanks for the added info Trikein. Ok I have decided to give Ooma a go, I have researched it in the past but it was just to expensive, but after doing some calculations I have come to a conclusion that it is best for me since more people have it and it is a less o***amble than nettalk, also did I mention it will pay itself in 8 month? that is quite a lot but we shall see on what I decide.

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Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: LookIntoMyEyees on September 29, 2010, 08:53:17 PM
Look guys I made it, into the gaming news! Btw those are my screenis! I feel so cool now. lolz http://playstationlifestyle.net/2010/09/29/assassins-creed-brotherhood-multiplayer-beta-in-your-inbox-now/ (http://playstationlifestyle.net/2010/09/29/assassins-creed-brotherhood-multiplayer-beta-in-your-inbox-now/)

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Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: Trikein on September 30, 2010, 07:51:18 PM
Awsome man. Go you. I had a friend who was in the beta for Uncharted 2. I rember him saying on one of the guns, the auto aim was messed up, and you can litterly get a head shot from the hip automatically if you were pointing anywhere near the guy. Turned it to a total cat and mouse game. How did they approach you? Or did you approach them?
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: LookIntoMyEyees on October 01, 2010, 10:46:00 AM
Thanks Trikein! I just told them that the assassin creed brother hood beta codes are being sent out, than the author Max Murray approached me and told me he want's to make a story on it and he would like me to help him and requested pictures and information Etc. The beta is very stable Btw! It was really cool of him to write the story!

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Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: LookIntoMyEyees on October 03, 2010, 09:56:25 PM
Hello guys, So I was over at the Dsl report website and a number of users are requesting my ISP (Optimum Online) for a D3 modem! (Most users are getting the SB6120) So I called my ISP and simply requested one. They told me no we can't provide those because they are meant for users who have the "Ultra" plan (100MBs). So I simply said my speeds are not matching my subscription and I asked to to talk to a supervisor and did so, he now told me he will have a guy out and install it for me! So I will let you guys know on Monday if I do get it installed. I was going to ditch out 100 bucks to buy it when now I am getting it for free.

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Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on October 03, 2010, 09:59:08 PM
What about rent fee?
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: LookIntoMyEyees on October 03, 2010, 10:01:50 PM
My ISP does not charge me a rent fee. As long as I have the service, it is a free modem. But they do charge me a rent fee for my cable boxes and the controllers which is ridicules.

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Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on October 03, 2010, 10:05:26 PM
kewl well your lucky then...most ISPs charge rental fees for modems.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: LookIntoMyEyees on October 03, 2010, 10:08:54 PM
Yea, I wonder why my ISP does not do that. Btw I am paying 113 for internet and cable. around how much you pay? You don't have to tell me if you don't want.

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Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on October 03, 2010, 10:09:51 PM
I pay less than $60 for internet and I use Dish NW for tv. thats about $90 I think.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: LookIntoMyEyees on October 03, 2010, 10:14:19 PM
Alright, Thanks. I thought my ISP was over charging but I guess that is about alright. I got no complain though they are very good. But during peak hours my internet slows down about half way. So instead of getting 27 down I get like 14-16. Hope the D3 fixes that since it uses more channels.

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Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on October 03, 2010, 10:15:38 PM
You have such a hard life with your internet LOL. I wish I got those speeds LOL.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: LookIntoMyEyees on October 03, 2010, 10:20:42 PM
I am very weird bro lolz. I like my things perfect or close to perfect. I am always trying to improve something in my household. Idk if you guys are like that who knows.

I only hope you would have a change of heart and come over to the pro side (PS3 FTW) Haha. Your sig is really conflicting with mines! it just like if you want war :)  Btw furry did you get your hands on halo reach?

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Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on October 03, 2010, 10:22:24 PM
Ha, Never ever. PS3=darkside, xbox=goodside hehe. Ya, I got reach on day 1. THen I got sick and couldn't play it for 2 days. WTF over? LOL. ya, Been playing it. Love it.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: LookIntoMyEyees on October 03, 2010, 10:26:53 PM
Aww furry don't come with that darkside thing! If xbox was so good than be honest and tell me that you don't see like od little kids whinny! It's terrible. No offense to xbox.  But I got to say the truth halo makes me want buy a xbox :( I am going to afk for like 25 min I need to go make me something I am hungry. xD

Edit: Since my come back was not that strong let me add this to it by saying you added a capital H in Then* haha! LOLZ that was lame xD but still.

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Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: Trikein on October 03, 2010, 10:52:34 PM
Ha, Never ever. PS3=darkside, xbox=goodside hehe. Ya, I got reach on day 1. THen I got sick and couldn't play it for 2 days. WTF over? LOL. ya, Been playing it. Love it.

Your saying Microsoft, the root of all evil, is the goodside? I mean I will listen to a debate on which system is better (general consensus is PS3=better hardware, 360=better games and multiplayer) but the Xbox is certianly the power hungry villian. PS3 is the wise cracking nerd. Wii is...the New Yorker that drinks organic chii and plays hacky sack in the park. LOL.

I will say this though, I will take Halo players vs the totalllllll arses who play PS3 MW2. Oh my god. Granted 360 MW2 are jerks, but PS3 players just bring it to a whole new level of trash talking. It really stems from having too much ego. The hilarious part is all the people who trash talk all day..they cry like little babies when their internet goes down and they don't have a clue how there pretty gaming machine works. Ego+ignorance..not a good mix. Heh
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on October 03, 2010, 10:56:33 PM
Tricky, you need to read my post again, I said Xbox and not MS is the good side. LOL. Not here to argue whats better in gaming hardware either. I was only about 6 years ago I got my first Halo edition xbox. I hated the xbox and swore I would not get one. Until Halo came alone. Now I love it and writing some fan fiction for Halo. LOL. Between PS and Xbox, the root of the evil is the users though, those users who trash talk, hack and cheat on them so it's not either HW version, it's the users and there on both sides.  People and or Kids. LOL
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Post by: LookIntoMyEyees on October 03, 2010, 11:19:46 PM
You guys are awesome! Haha! I love these forums. They make me feel safe as in if I ever needed an network advice you guys will be there for me. Although I truly wonder though what are you guys doing up this late. It's not like people come here in the middle of the night for tech support xD!

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Post by: FurryNutz on October 03, 2010, 11:21:20 PM
I work a swing shift so I'm always up late... :P
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Post by: LookIntoMyEyees on October 03, 2010, 11:25:11 PM
Wow. Furry has a come back for everything -_-  ??? Kk Mr comeback! So furry give us an update on hows your Sb/Dgl are doing?

EDIT:
 I recently purchased a new monster cable splitter since my signal levels were not so great and I must say I am impressed. These are my new signal level which are perfect for me, at least I think so.
(http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa64/chriz704/Mynetworkthingy.png)
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Post by: FurryNutz on October 03, 2010, 11:33:11 PM
Just fine...doing a 300 Mb download now and browsing the internet now. I lik the SB alot. Talked to by buddy just down the road from me. Told him he needs to get one and let me get his router set up for his xbox better.
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Post by: LookIntoMyEyees on October 03, 2010, 11:36:16 PM
Awesome. Once again guys my 4500 is running smooth. No issues no complains never ever. I really am impressed with this router I love it. I am going to get off now guys. I need to wake up early, the cable guy is coming around 11 am. Cya Gn take care like always!  ;D

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Post by: LookIntoMyEyees on October 04, 2010, 12:13:35 PM
Hey, He installed it for me. But it's not the Sb6120 it's rather the one with voip the SBV6220 came with a boot firmware: 1.0.7.13m and a firmware name:  SBV6X2X-1.0.2.4. It's pretty sweet so far.


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Post by: FurryNutz on October 04, 2010, 03:50:38 PM
Hope it works out better for you man.
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Post by: LookIntoMyEyees on October 04, 2010, 03:53:44 PM
Just logged in right now and bam you are online. The interface is really hard to understand. I am still trying to figure out how do I see the signal levels. My old modem was easy this has like 3 channel bonding and each one has a different signal. My upstream does not bond :( how about you furry?
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Post by: Trikein on October 04, 2010, 08:06:45 PM
Tricky, you need to read my post again, I said Xbox and not MS is the good side. LOL. Not here to argue whats better in gaming hardware either. I was only about 6 years ago I got my first Halo edition xbox. I hated the xbox and swore I would not get one. Until Halo came alone. Now I love it and writing some fan fiction for Halo. LOL. Between PS and Xbox, the root of the evil is the users though, those users who trash talk, hack and cheat on them so it's not either HW version, it's the users and there on both sides.  People and or Kids. LOL

Touché mon ami. :-)

Though to be fair, Microsoft is the parent company of Xbox. I actually play the 360 though. I would own one if they could promise better quality control. I played Halo Reach last night and...did anyone else feel like they were playing Starfox when doing the flying level? "Do a barrel roll!"

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Post by: FurryNutz on October 04, 2010, 08:08:28 PM
Love that level..I had a great time with it. Hoping to complete the legendary campaign this weekend.
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Post by: Trikein on October 04, 2010, 08:18:56 PM
Just logged in right now and bam you are online. The interface is really hard to understand. I am still trying to figure out how do I see the signal levels. My old modem was easy this has like 3 channel bonding and each one has a different signal. My upstream does not bond :( how about you furry?

Nope, upstream doesn't bond. No ISP I know has invested the mucho cash needed for that. Eventually though.

And if your seeing the three channels, thats a good thing. I personally don't like EMTA's (AKA internet/phone combo modems) but sometimes its the lesser of two evils. Its better to have 1 EMTA then use a splitter for two modems. But hey, if you got it for free, its like a 150-200$ modem. Technically its just the 6120 with some more ram for a larger firmware and a VOIP attached with a battery, but the battery can make troubleshooting a pain.

Furry, have you gotten  the Happy Blue light yet on your recieve?
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Post by: Trikein on October 04, 2010, 08:20:45 PM
Love that level..I had a great time with it. Hoping to complete the legendary campaign this weekend.

Oh, I loved it too. My only issue though was the lack of radar. Kind of funny a Spartan has radar, but not the super elite experimental spacecraft he is flying? Really fun level though. Too bad you cant fly it in multiplayer though. Talk about OP! LOL
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Post by: FurryNutz on October 04, 2010, 08:23:49 PM
Funny you should meantion that. I was gone all weekend and came home and notice it today when I got up. WTF over? Didn't notice any probs though. I was still able to connect to internet and download stuff.
I did check the modem logs and saw several warnings and critical messages and notice the time online and been reset, was online for 30 mins approx.


Nope, upstream doesn't bond. No ISP I know has invested the mucho cash needed for that. Eventually though.

And if your seeing the three channels, thats a good thing. I personally don't like EMTA's (AKA internet/phone combo modems) but sometimes its the lesser of two evils. Its better to have 1 EMTA then use a splitter for two modems. But hey, if you got it for free, its like a 150-200$ modem. Technically its just the 6120 with some more ram for a larger firmware and a VOIP attached with a battery, but the battery can make troubleshooting a pain.

Furry, have you gotten  the Happy Blue light yet on your recieve?
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Post by: FurryNutz on October 04, 2010, 08:24:43 PM
Ya, I could get used to that here and there in MP. I like the fact of having something different to do than just run around alot. Hope they keep it going.


Oh, I loved it too. My only issue though was the lack of radar. Kind of funny a Spartan has radar, but not the super elite experimental spacecraft he is flying? Really fun level though. Too bad you cant fly it in multiplayer though. Talk about OP! LOL
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Post by: Trikein on October 04, 2010, 08:35:35 PM
Funny you should meantion that. I was gone all weekend and came home and notice it today when I got up. WTF over? Didn't notice any probs though. I was still able to connect to internet and download stuff.
I did check the modem logs and saw several warnings and critical messages and notice the time online and been reset, was online for 30 mins approx.



No, blue light is good. Means your bonding on all 3 channel. Have you don't any speedtest since then?
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Post by: FurryNutz on October 04, 2010, 08:41:54 PM
No haven't...haven't had a need to. I guess I will check this when I get home in a couple of hours then. So the receive blue light is a good thing then. Kewl beans. ::)
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Post by: FurryNutz on October 05, 2010, 12:09:36 AM
So the blue light isn't blinking, just just on steady. I did a speed test. I'm just maxing out at 10Mb for what I'm paying for. I just played some MP on Reach and was doing just fine.
(http://www.speedtest.net/result/978561330.png) (http://www.speedtest.net)
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Post by: Trikein on October 05, 2010, 12:40:59 AM
Hmmm, I guess Cable One just doesnt have the oomph. Cable is all about how many people are on your node, and the resources of that node. The headend is robost, the weakness for most ISP is getting that speed to the customer. Channel bonding closes that bottleneck that unleashes alot of unused potential. The problem comes from ISP that upgrade to DOCSIS 3 but don't invest as much into their infrastructure to support that new cability.  Its like if you have Ferrari engine, and a VW tranmission, and then upgrade to a Ferrari transmission, your speed takes off. But if you have a VW engine..and upgrade to a Ferrari transmission..well yea. There probably waiting though. You will take off eventually. As soon as they start overing a 50Mb+ package, you will probably see your speeds doable without paying a dime.
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Post by: LookIntoMyEyees on October 05, 2010, 05:20:59 AM
So if I get the Blue light does it mean my ISP supports DOCSIS 3? not really right? I really don't like Voip modems either. That's one of the main reason I switched to vonage to get a different modem without voip. But now I don't want to purchase the SB6120 since I got this one. I did a speed test and it went pretty well. Better than way before. I don't like my ping :( Ping are mean! although 19 is great. Furry is your modem interface like greenish? My logs don't move at all it still has logs from yesterday. Still trying to figure how to read 3 channel bondings.

(http://www.speedtest.net/result/978802336.png) (http://www.speedtest.net)

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Post by: FurryNutz on October 05, 2010, 11:26:56 AM
Will have to see, I'm currently on there Premium package with 10Mb down and 1Mb up. The highest they go right now is there "Ultra" package with 12Mb down and 1.5Mb up.  :o
I'm happy with what I got now. Knowing that the system here at the house is ready for more and upgraded to handle the future, I'm content for now. I live on a street east of the city, 15 mins, burbs and not a lot of people here, small neighborhood. I think I was the first one to get cable Internet back in 03 when they finally got it in place. I was using Satellite from 01-03  ::)

Hmmm, I guess Cable One just doesnt have the oomph. Cable is all about how many people are on your node, and the resources of that node. The headend is robost, the weakness for most ISP is getting that speed to the customer. Channel bonding closes that bottleneck that unleashes alot of unused potential. The problem comes from ISP that upgrade to DOCSIS 3 but don't invest as much into their infrastructure to support that new cability.  Its like if you have Ferrari engine, and a VW tranmission, and then upgrade to a Ferrari transmission, your speed takes off. But if you have a VW engine..and upgrade to a Ferrari transmission..well yea. There probably waiting though. You will take off eventually. As soon as they start overing a 50Mb+ package, you will probably see your speeds doable without paying a dime.
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Post by: FurryNutz on October 05, 2010, 11:33:11 AM
My modems web page is an Olive drab green.  :P Ya think they could have spent just a tad bit more time and picked a better color.  :-[

So if I get the Blue light does it mean my ISP supports DOCSIS 3? not really right? I really don't like Voip modems either. That's one of the main reason I switched to vonage to get a different modem without voip. But now I don't want to purchase the SB6120 since I got this one. I did a speed test and it went pretty well. Better than way before. I don't like my ping :( Ping are mean! although 19 is great. Furry is your modem interface like greenish? My logs don't move at all it still has logs from yesterday. Still trying to figure how to read 3 channel bondings.

(http://www.speedtest.net/result/978802336.png) (http://www.speedtest.net)

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Post by: Trikein on October 05, 2010, 11:49:59 AM
I think it is sapposed to match the green and blue lights of the modem. So yea, its ugly, but as far as informative and upgradable, the Motorola firmware from the 5101 and up has been rock solid. Not like the crap Arris puts out. Those things have to be patched like a old country screen door.
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Post by: LookIntoMyEyees on October 05, 2010, 11:57:05 AM
What's the best firmware for the SBV6220? I am assuming the SB6120 and the SBV6220 use the same firmware? Guys I ask if my router uses bonding channels does it means my ISP support DOCSIS 3?

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Post by: FurryNutz on October 05, 2010, 12:11:28 PM
I also notice that they haven't updated there copyright dates either.
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Post by: Trikein on October 05, 2010, 12:14:29 PM
Well that gets complex. First I won't know what is the "best" firmware for you without doing alot of heavy research. Not only is it a ISP I am not familar with, and a modem I am not familar with, but I don't know at which state of DOCSIS 3.0 support they are at.

And that takes us to your next question. In short, partly. Its like asking if a router is N. It could be N draft. It could be N NIMO, dual band, 2.4 vs 5ghz, channel width, and so on. With DOCSIS 3.0, theres alot of standards (http://www.cablelabs.com/cablemodem/specifications/specifications30.html)that you must meet to be considered DOCSIS 3.0. Channel bonding is one of them, and "usually" the last one they upgrade for, because its one of the more expensive requirements.

So channel bonding is never bad, and usually very good, but if it doesn't have the supporting technology behind it, its not giving the same "wow" factor behind it that some are getting. And where that stems from is to get pay off for their investment, alot of ISP start offering packages that make use of that technology at a higher price. But to make it work, their entire network (atleast around the area they are offering it) must be fully upgraded for them to get anywhere near the levels they are offering. And because the network is upgraded waaaaay before it is saturated with users using the technology, you have a surplus of bandwidth not being used in alot of neighborhood. Make sense? I know its confused. Even I don't understand it 100% yet. Slowly learning.
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Post by: LookIntoMyEyees on October 05, 2010, 01:31:09 PM
Thanks for taking the time to post this. It makes sense, My ISP really is lacking speed right now (talking about other users over at the DSLreport) there are just so many complaints talking about slow speeds it is crazy. I guess my ISP needs to step up there game and make things right. Once again thanks.

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Post by: FurryNutz on October 05, 2010, 03:05:54 PM
you poor thing.  :P
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Post by: LookIntoMyEyees on October 05, 2010, 05:16:00 PM
Furry tease much? :( Btw guys Medal Of Honor releases next week! I pre order mined can't wait!

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Post by: Trikein on October 05, 2010, 05:50:28 PM
you poor thing.  :P

Ok, perhaps you can help me Furry. Trying to install my old HP printer on my brothers network and I am running into some problems.

Printer: HP Photosmart C6200 series
Model: CC988A
S/N# MY76JC50G50506
Service ID#  17294

Router: DIR-628
Hardware Version: A1
Product Page: DIR-628
Wired via ethernet to router.

Network:
A.Wireless desktop(Home built), XP SP3, D-link DWL-AG530
B.Acer Aspire 4315 wireless laptop. XP SP3

Setup: I had the printer installed before using the CD but had to install the full suite to get it to pick up the printer. But that was with the desktop wired to router, and printer wired to router.

Info: I can ping the router and access its gateway. I tried to run the basic driver found here (http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/softwareCategory?os=228&lc=en&cc=us&dlc=en&sw_lang=&product=3194498#N216) but couldnt find the printer. Tried Windows Printer installer, but couldn't see the printer. I tried putting the printer in the DMZ and manually add a printer TCP driver, but couldnt find the .ini to attached. I tried to use Window Update, but couldnt find it via that way. I made sure UPnP was on the printer and the router. Any thoughts? I dont want to install the full suite again, its just cloggs up the PC. I could go wired with the desktop, or should I just go USB from printer to desktop and share it. Any ideas?
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Post by: LookIntoMyEyees on October 05, 2010, 06:10:45 PM
Trikein? Asking for help? Is the world going to end? OMG help!! But for reals I got the same printer! but mines a little different than your brothers. Just download the instillation cd from Hp website. Don't use the disc that it come with they are outdated and never locates my printer in my network. Also you said you tried the drivers but have you tried like the installation Cd from the site?
Edit: But by knowing Trikein hes probably 50 steps ahead of me  :o Have you tried this? (http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/softwareDownloadIndex?softwareitem=oj-86374-1&lc=en&dlc=en&cc=us&os=228&product=3194498&sw_lang=)

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Post by: Trikein on October 05, 2010, 06:59:13 PM
LOL. I'm telling you, HP and Belkin is my kryptonite. But nahh, I get stuck all the time. One part of me loves it because thats how I learn. :-) When you hear me swearing my head off at a computer..you know its party time. hahahaha

But actually that link may be just what I need. Its very simular to the one for my brother printer. Awsome find! I didn't have the CD (lost it in the move) but I saw the full package on the site. The thing about that is it installs all the HP utilities and junk. Almost a GB or more of stuff(the 200Mb is just the installer). Nevermind the litterly..1000+ registry entries it makes? I am sorry, I don't like it when I get adware from my printer telling me to buy ink. ::chuckle:: Granted..it won't be my computer, but still. I even had problems with HP updater that litterly locked my computer up at 99% CPU usage. Had to hunt in the registry for the key to disable it. Since then..nahh, driver only FTW. But the link may do the drink. It looks like a port scanner that problably sends ICMP through a certian port range and listens for a ACK:REC then uses that info to make the custom TCP driver. Thats why I can see the printer, and talk to it, so I can pass HTML to and from, but my print spooler cant send to it.
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Post by: FurryNutz on October 05, 2010, 07:39:53 PM
Here's what I do for my LaserJet P2014 with Wired LAN as I see your printer has wired LAN capabilities too?  ::)
1. I have the printer wired up to my switch and gave it a static IP.
2. I then installed HPs printer port monitor found here on each pc:
http://h20000.www2.hp.com/bizsupport/TechSupport/SoftwareDescription.jsp?lang=en&cc=us&swItem=jd-65723-1&jumpid=reg_R1002_USEN (http://h20000.www2.hp.com/bizsupport/TechSupport/SoftwareDescription.jsp?lang=en&cc=us&swItem=jd-65723-1&jumpid=reg_R1002_USEN)
or 64bit http://h20000.www2.hp.com/bizsupport/TechSupport/SoftwareDescription.jsp?lang=en&cc=us&swItem=jd-65724-1&jumpid=reg_R1002_USEN (http://h20000.www2.hp.com/bizsupport/TechSupport/SoftwareDescription.jsp?lang=en&cc=us&swItem=jd-65724-1&jumpid=reg_R1002_USEN)
3. I would then add the printer via Printer and Faxes, using Add printer wizard/Local/Create New Port/Select the down menu arrow and select HP Standard Port Monitor. Continue thru the windows and inputting the IP address of the printer, then using Have Disk, browse out to the Driver CD or download and unpack the driver only version for this printer and have it ready and browse to this folder and point to the driver ini file. It should come up and have a couple of models to select. Select your model. Continue thru the windows and allow the printer wizard to finish the installation and then have it print a test page to make sure it works.

This will need to be done for each pc that you want to print from. Seems like it take a while but it doesn't doing this type of install.

The reason for using HP Standard port monitor is for the use of bi directional communication. MS Standard port monitor is one way only and no IPv6.

Yes the other way of installing would be to install the printer via USB, once it's installed, share out the installed printer icon, then you'll have to go to each pc and connect to it and install it there for each pc. Can be done however you'll have to leave the connected PC on all the time if you do it this way.
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Post by: LookIntoMyEyees on October 06, 2010, 10:56:34 PM
Ouch, I was busy the whole day today reformatting my computer. Oh god I lost important information during the process. Nothing to serious, although I would still love to have them :(. My pc in fresh new! I really like it this way.

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Post by: Trikein on October 06, 2010, 11:55:51 PM
Why did you reformat it? Just for funsies? Also, back up drives (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822204069), their sooo cheap these days.
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Post by: LookIntoMyEyees on October 07, 2010, 03:32:45 PM
Ran into a few registry issues with certain programs Etc. Yea, I got no method of backing up. I probably am going to purchase a back up drive.

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Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: Trikein on October 07, 2010, 07:55:22 PM
Ahh, been there. I had a issue with the video driver for my 5770, compatibility bug, Starcraft 2, and Aero on my gaming rig. After reinstalling the driver after a hard crash, it just stopped working. After 2 weeks between ATI and Microsoft, I finally said screw it, and reinstalled. I had all my data on my 2nd drive though, with my OS on a SSD.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on October 11, 2010, 09:16:04 PM
Ever try Nvidia? Just curious... ???
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: Trikein on October 11, 2010, 09:33:04 PM
Well when I bought my high end system, I had to make a choice. For my systems specs, the 5770 was just too much bang for the buck to pass up. My next rig I want to try them out..but I am also thinking of trying AMD then too..but they can sometime play better with ATI so..who knows.

But on another subject, moved this post here:

Yea, I have noticed how little posting the Lycan posts on here. Not sure if that is a compliment to us...or a insult. LOL. J/king  ;D

I do wonder though..are there any other forums except the ones on the US server? I checked Australia and UK...and didn't even see a forum. Consider Dlink is out of Taiwan....oooh while browsing around I just realized Dlink offers other products outside the US. This is both fun to know, and relevent. Check out this sweet thing I found

http://www.dlinktw.com.tw/product_view.asp?subMenuCode=1&sno=HMAOBN
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Post by: FurryNutz on October 11, 2010, 09:40:16 PM
ya the mods here don't post probably as much as they should. They are out here watching. I think more of them as police. Something happens, they step in and about the only time you see them.

As or PCs, I've always been AMD and NVidia fan. They bought a competitor company out which made better cards then they did, wish they didn't. Oh well. They seem to work well at least for me.

I have done a few PCs with ATI and the SW always never seemed to install correctly. Always had to PNP or get updated Drivers from the web. Once I got them installed, they seem to work ok.
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Post by: Squirrel2 on October 14, 2010, 08:37:35 PM
As or PCs, I've always been AMD and NVidia fan. They bought a competitor company out which made better cards then they did, wish they didn't. Oh well. They seem to work well at least for me.
You must be talking about 3DFX, right? I miss them.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on October 14, 2010, 09:02:20 PM
Ya I was trying to remember that company. I had 2 cards from them a 3500 and a 4000. Man, for the time and technology, they were way ahead of Nvidia and ATI. Easy to install and worked like nothing else. Was sad to hear they were bought up by NVidia. Nice to know someone remembers them. There was a group that carried on drivers and such after they closed. Not sure if it's still out there. Oh well, so here we are, stuck with 2 different chip sets now...Jaton was ok. Still, 3DFX, will never be another like them again.  :(
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: Trikein on October 15, 2010, 07:50:33 PM
And now ATI is going to dissapear. Not the company, just the brand. AMD is just going to incorporate it into their AMD brand.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: Squirrel2 on October 16, 2010, 09:00:56 PM
I still have my Voodoo3 3000 PCI card. Using the 3DFX plugin on Playstation emulators with this gives me the best graphics I've ever seen.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on October 17, 2010, 11:23:38 AM
I think i have my 3500 TV card around somewhere...came with the long external connection cable pod to connect up composite video and audio.  ;)
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: Trikein on October 19, 2010, 10:47:35 PM
Someone sent me a Foamy Card which got me started on watching all the videos again. I highly suggest them. Frakin HILARIOUS!!

http://www.illwillpress.com/vault.html

"Do you like the Icecream?"
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Post by: LookIntoMyEyees on October 24, 2010, 09:00:19 PM
Hey guys,

 I have become addicted to trophy hunting! So I won't be available for a while! Trikein check out my trophies in ps3.

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Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: Trikein on October 30, 2010, 08:31:08 PM
By the way, just found out the SB6580 was released. Not what you want (since the 6580 has a router, and you have a much better router already) but the thing does have 8 downstream channels compared to the 6120's 4. I don't any ISP's are bonding 8 yet buy...::taps fingertips together:: I may just get one to play.

http://www.frys.com/product/6307301
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on October 30, 2010, 09:07:19 PM
HONESTLY, you really need 8 Chl bonding over 4 for general INTERNET and gaming? Please.  ::)
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: Trikein on October 30, 2010, 11:45:18 PM
Hellllll no. ::grin:: I don't even need 4. Heck, since your connection is only as good as the adverage in the game your playing(in multiplayer) and the adverage is like 4-7Mb, my speed is over kill. But thats how I learn. :-) Next project is installing WRT on a DIR-615. Never did mod my DGL, the putting it on my case fan too cool it worked too well to make it worth it.

PS..Your talking to a guy who build a 4k$ gaming machine....I don't game with it. ::duck::
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Post by: FurryNutz on October 31, 2010, 12:19:40 PM
You don't game with it, Well might as well send it to me then. Probably collecting dust. Will fit good with my new 27" HD LCD I just got for my b-day  ;D

Highest cost PC I ever built was $900.  ::)
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: Trikein on October 31, 2010, 04:10:51 PM
Well I used it for a testing platform for different systems, so I was swapping out parts and trying different set ups. I ended up with enough stuff to probably build 3 PC's. heh. Taught me the difference in OC AMD and Intel. Driver issues between AMD and Nvida. How to use different RAIDS and a how to record via HDMI, the subtlties of SSD and how to get the best performance. When you think about it though, someone may have paid a 1000$ for 4 credits from a college to learn some of that stuff, and I just learned it from buying the hardware. And now I get to keep the hardware. And its not that I don't use the PC. I am using it now. Its just I don't use it to its full power. I need to give it a overhaul soon. Maybe when the new Diablo game comes out. 
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on October 31, 2010, 04:44:43 PM
Ya I'm waiting for D3 too...hope its good.  ;D
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: LookIntoMyEyees on October 31, 2010, 07:13:21 PM
I see most users are wealthy and smart! WOOO! Happy Halloween!

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Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: LookIntoMyEyees on November 02, 2010, 03:04:00 PM
http://tinyurl.com/23qglfz Crazy! I bet that one never over heats haha!

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Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: Trikein on November 02, 2010, 03:20:04 PM
Yea, I saw that. Very cool. Kind of what I was thinking of doing with mine, but then money/time took a downfall. I also notice they have Cox as their ISP. I recognize that coaxial a mile away. I miss my 4300. Oh Dlink, you heart-breaker you. LOL
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: Trikein on November 02, 2010, 07:28:39 PM
I just noticed I am a bit anal retentive about these forums. Between the 4500 and the DIR-655 forum, there always seems to be a new post. It won't let me sleep!! LOL. Must..have..entire..screen..gray..::zombie walk::
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on November 02, 2010, 07:29:40 PM
put down the mouse and key board and step away from the chair SIR!!!!  >:(
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on November 07, 2010, 11:08:35 PM
Article about different routers:
http://gizmodo.com/5675479/the-ultimate-router-battle (http://gizmodo.com/5675479/the-ultimate-router-battle)

I guess the DGL-4500 isn't good enough anymore.  :-[ Oh well, I still love it. Wonder if the 855 is any good?
I went online with WRT today. Haven't had a chance to game yet. Will see how it goes. Think the UI could use some work though.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on December 08, 2010, 11:39:33 AM
http://www.xbox.com/en-us/Live/EngineeringBlog (http://www.xbox.com/en-us/Live/EngineeringBlog)
Title: Re: Happy Holidays
Post by: FurryNutz on December 21, 2010, 07:57:23 PM
Hope everyone has a great holiday and a happy new year. Furry.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on December 28, 2010, 02:57:28 PM
Hope everyone has a Happy New Year. Furry.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: LookIntoMyEyees on December 28, 2010, 04:17:39 PM
Happy Holidays to all and a happy new year! This was sponsored and payed by Sony PlayStation 3 "It Only Does Everything"

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Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on January 01, 2011, 11:58:12 AM
Happy New Year everyone.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: Hard Harry on January 12, 2011, 04:04:54 PM
Holy shiza that was alot of snow. 20inches and counting where I live. It handles like cold wet oatmeal too. How did we not loose power? Or atleast internet? Props to them.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on January 12, 2011, 05:30:02 PM
Wow, I'm jealous of that.  ::)
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: Hard Harry on January 12, 2011, 05:43:48 PM
Why? LOL. Usually I love snow because the joys of a parking garage. But having to spend 3 hours "carving" 3 cars out of 3-4feet snow drifts..not so much fun. Heh
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on January 12, 2011, 07:19:47 PM
I was being silly. You enjoy your snow man.  :P
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on January 17, 2011, 10:32:01 AM
Yay, were back online.  ;D
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: Hard Harry on January 17, 2011, 07:56:08 PM
So any reason for the almost week long outage?  :o Is the server for this forum in someones basement and does the cat keep chewing on the ethernet cord? Yeesh, shouldnt a network company..I don't know..know how to properly mantain their network? Just sayin'.  ;D
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: LookIntoMyEyees on January 17, 2011, 10:30:35 PM
Sorry guys, I was tired and by mistake I spilled water all over the servers. I keep the servers in my bathroom. No worries it is up now. You guys probably think I am lying, well FurryNutz knows I am not but to the others who don't believe me here is a picture
(http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa64/chriz704/bathroomserver2.jpg)
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: Hard Harry on January 18, 2011, 05:26:46 AM
Ahh dude, you totally need to upgrade those ethernet to CAT6. Also if you go with a eco green flush toilet it will increase your throughput. Just don't forget to open those ports on the laundry basket! LOL!!! :D :D :D
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on January 18, 2011, 07:18:45 AM
Wow, all that for a web site. I think we need to reconsider v.90 14.4 dial up modems for back up next time.

Not sure why the site was down. Was down all weekend. I emailed a Mod on Sunday. and he said he make sure to pass it on. Things happen. Nice pic. Very funny.  :D
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: LookIntoMyEyees on January 18, 2011, 12:28:57 PM
Thanks to furrynutz for reporting that the site was down, Now I lost my job. I can no longer run these severs :( CRYS! But come on what is wrong with the forum servers lol! I mean we are still in beta so its not a big deal. Plus the site says 2006-2009 lol weres 2010 and 2011? Dlink fail.

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Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on January 18, 2011, 12:32:52 PM
Hey keep that closet at the ready, never know when Dlink might need it for back up.  :D

Ya, noticed that. Someone is asleep at the wheel.  :-\
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: Hard Harry on January 18, 2011, 04:31:01 PM
Nahh, I have a feeling this forum was handed over to a 3rd party loooooong ago. I will eat my hat if it ever comes out of beta. Theres a reason why it took so long for them to fix it. It probably took Furry telling them for them to even realize it was done, thats how little time they spend in here now.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: Hard Harry on January 18, 2011, 07:44:03 PM
BTW, Anyone on DSLReports? Is it me or has it gone down hill? Used to be populated by a decently educated group. Now its like 80% noobs crying about high pings who still call their routers "Linksee's". Its making me face palm on a daily basis but I can't stand to look away.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on January 19, 2011, 07:25:58 AM
I get on there sometimes. To check on whos bashing the 4500. Ya, seems like it's nothing but new people who can't give good information or offer good experiences to anyone else. Most of the time is someone bashing products.  >:(
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: Hard Harry on January 19, 2011, 12:48:04 PM
Yea, we had a bunch of people bashing the 6120 and one person defending it, and someone calling for a class action lawsuite. LOL. It boggles my mind.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on January 19, 2011, 12:52:12 PM
What?  ??? Really? Can't be... This would be a first. I love my 6120.  ;D There a link to this?
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: Hard Harry on January 26, 2011, 06:30:33 PM
Anyone here have Guitar Hero: Warriors of Rock, for the PS3? I bought it for my little brother, and we can't figure out a way to play it with the controllers. I know, geeky, but we could play all the other GH games like that, this one seems to not allow you to play a song with guitar in it unless you have a GH guitar plugged in. Looked through the manual and settings, and don't see any mention of it. If I was going dish out money for a guitar..I would buy him a REAL guitar. Heh. Anyone have any thoughts? Ironicly, I wrote this entire post in the time it took the PSN forums to load. Wowwwww they suck.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on February 02, 2011, 02:44:52 PM
http://www.skinit.com/devices/routers (http://www.skinit.com/devices/routers)

Something fun for your router.  ::)
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: LookIntoMyEyees on February 04, 2011, 03:51:56 PM
I am hard core all the way, I play rated M games because I am a big boy now :) FurryNutz I'm liking the new avatar, Did you skin your router?

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Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on February 04, 2011, 05:22:06 PM
NO, I just saw that on the DLink product site and saw that. Was curious about it. LOL. I would if they had a HALO one. hehe.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: LookIntoMyEyees on February 04, 2011, 05:30:33 PM
Would I be considered a stalker if I were to tell you that you played 5,358 halo 3 matches? Also that I know your whole life halo story just by clicking your sig? Mhmm?

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Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on February 05, 2011, 10:13:40 AM
I'm calling the cops LOL
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: LookIntoMyEyees on February 05, 2011, 01:54:21 PM
xD! I am Innocent! Hey furry have you played the crisis demo over on the xbox market place? I liked it.

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Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on February 05, 2011, 10:30:19 PM
Innocent as the pure drive yellow snow huh? No haven't played Crisis yet. Been working on Black Ops and Reach mostly.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: Hard Harry on March 07, 2011, 06:53:31 AM
This is why (http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r25576932-Cloned-Web-Site-) I don't post on DSLreports anymore. Some of those peeps be CRAZY!

Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on March 07, 2011, 07:06:06 AM
WOOOOW. It's amazing what kind of people are allowed access to Computers.  ::)
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: LookIntoMyEyees on March 08, 2011, 04:49:22 PM
WOOOOW. It's amazing what kind of people are allowed access to Computers.  ::)

Amazing indeed, oh well back to spamming. (Oops)

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Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: Hard Harry on March 14, 2011, 11:01:42 PM
Just wanted everyones opinion. My modem kicked the bucket and can't decide which one to get. Its between these three.

Cisco DPC3010 (http://www.midcocomm.com/_files/files/DPC3010.pdf)
-8 down, 4 Up
-Wider Freq range
-Stable firmware (by reviews)
-Cant buy 3rd party

Zoom 5431 (http://www.zoomtel.com/graphics/datasheets/cable/5341_spec.pdf)
-4 down, 4 Up
-Cheaper
-TI Chipset (T1 was bought by Intel, firmware updates?)
-Same case as DCM-202, known heat problems.

Motorola SB6121 (http://www.motorola.com/web/Business/Product%20Lines/SURFboard/SB6121/Documents/SB6121%20Data%20Sheet.pdf?localeId=33)
-4 down, 4 Up
-A SB6120 in the body of a SB6580. Same firmware. I <3 my 6120
-Different case=not as good heat distro?

Or I can wait for the SB6180 to be released in my area. Wasn't going to be retail available at first, but I guess Motorola changed their mind.

Motorola SB6180 (http://www.motorola.com/staticfiles/Video-Solutions/Products/Modems%20and%20Gateways/Modems/Cable%20Modems/SB6180/_Documents/Static_files/SB6180_DataSheet.pdf)
-Pretty much a SB6120 but with 8down/4up
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on March 15, 2011, 07:00:49 AM
HARRY, you really need 8 down and 4 up?  :o
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: Hard Harry on March 15, 2011, 08:27:50 AM
Right now? No. But I don't "need" alot of the toys and gadgets I have, including my 4500. My entire network is wired, and I rarly game anymore. ::grin::. Kidding aside, I want to future proof it so my next modem is up to date for the next 3-4 years. And its possible they might open 5 down and 4 up in a couple years. I think its between getting the DPC3010 or waiting for the SB6180.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on March 15, 2011, 08:32:08 AM
Well if your not gaming anymore then why don't you give me your 4500 and get the http://www.dlink.com/products/?pid=DSR-500N  :o

I like my new SB6180.  ::)
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: kargo27 on March 15, 2011, 08:35:18 AM
I think you have sound reasoning in buying the better modem for future upgrades and it being able to handle the technology a few years down the road.   :D
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on March 15, 2011, 08:41:04 AM
Well, thats good too however with IPv6 looming on the horizon. I'm kinda waiting to see how that played out. People are whining and complain that there HW doesn't support it and rushing to get it going. I think theres more to it then just adding it to FW updates. I'm trying to be patient and wait to see how it goes.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: kargo27 on March 15, 2011, 09:06:02 AM
Oh, well that's a good point, too.  So, with modems, it's not a good idea to buy too far in advance but just use today's technology?
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on March 15, 2011, 10:19:47 AM
Ya, That would be my thinking, however people can do what they wish. I would do some research before going to buy anything newer and see what it supports and what, if any, information regarding future technology integration it might support. Right now your still waiting on DOCSIS v3. Your ready for it though and should be a seamless transition for you.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: kargo27 on March 15, 2011, 12:26:37 PM
True, true. 

We got an update on our cable TV receivers last night.  Some new, fancy, definitely more aesthetically pleasing Guide layout, which made me wonder if that had anything to do with the internet side of things.  Probably two different beasts, huh?
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: Hard Harry on March 15, 2011, 12:43:17 PM
Yea, two separate things. Rovi, Sara, or Passport?  Anyway, I think most of even the 1st generation D3 modems had IPv6 support(Including the 6120 past 1.0.3). Heck, so does the SB5101U. Most of that will be handled by a firmware update when the time comes, and most D2 modems will be compatible. I mean they will have to make it that way. Unlike the D2 to D3 transition which is optional, the IPv4 to IPv6 is much more mandatory, albeit with some wiggle room. Where you want to do some research though is on the router side, basically past the CPE, because thats where things will get complicated for the consumer.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on March 15, 2011, 12:57:06 PM
Im really hoping they make (a) or the UI easier to use for IPv6. I'm still foggy on how to use it here and there. LOL.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: kargo27 on March 15, 2011, 05:53:17 PM
Yea, two separate things. Rovi, Sara, or Passport?  Anyway, I think most of even the 1st generation D3 modems had IPv6 support(Including the 6120 past 1.0.3). Heck, so does the SB5101U. Most of that will be handled by a firmware update when the time comes, and most D2 modems will be compatible. I mean they will have to make it that way. Unlike the D2 to D3 transition which is optional, the IPv4 to IPv6 is much more mandatory, albeit with some wiggle room. Where you want to do some research though is on the router side, basically past the CPE, because thats where things will get complicated for the consumer.

You sure know your cable Harry.  It's Passport and is written like this Passport > echo.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: Hard Harry on March 15, 2011, 07:50:34 PM
Just don't call me Harry the Cable Guy. ::shrudder::

But yea, if you run into any problems, let me know. Here to help.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: Hard Harry on March 18, 2011, 11:21:19 PM
Just noticed something odd, is it me or did the supply of SB6120 take a nose dive? Both Newegg, Fry's and Tigerdirect out of stock for over a week. BestBuy and Amazon out of stock too (online at least) for over a week. Both back in stock, but a 50$ price increase on Amazon?!? Why I am concerned is Motorola uses TI chipsets. Major manufacture for TI? Japan. Hmmm. So if you need a 6120, now is the time to buy. I am buying another tomorrow at local BestBuy. Only place I can find one.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on March 19, 2011, 09:54:54 AM
Try Radio Shack too. I bought 2 of them there, going to get another for my buddy down the street to day I think. If you need power supplies, this this place out:

http://www.officebeyond.com/ (http://www.officebeyond.com/)

Have good supplies for different things. I had to get a 5volt, 2amp PS for a NG hub last year. Works great now.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: Hard Harry on March 19, 2011, 08:16:27 PM
I try to buy as little as possible from a store. With the exception of clothes and furniture. But yea, they are out of stock online too. Its also possible that Motorola told all vendors to pull 6120's and just sell off what they had in stuck because the 6121 is replacing it. BTW, I found out the different between the two.

1.Standby button. Disabled on most revisions.
2.Different case. Its the case of the 6580.
3.High pass filter. To block out ingress which can be caused by MoCA, which is becoming more popular.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on March 19, 2011, 11:35:23 PM
well I presume the 6120 is still a good modem...
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: Hard Harry on March 20, 2011, 12:24:41 AM
Yea, general consensus is its(the 6120) better. The filter is a unknown in how it could effect signal levels. Very very very unlikly it would have any effect, but still a unknown. Also, the case of the 6120 is much better. Which you might not think means anything, but its rather important long term.

Where it gets interesting is the 6180 vs the 6120. 6120 is a 4x4 using 1 tuner on a TI chipset. 6180 is a 8x4 on two tuners, using a Broadcom chipset. I will take TI anyday of the week. I find they run cooler and generally have a longer lifespan.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on March 20, 2011, 10:54:17 AM
Sounds like the 6180 could achieve better speeds then? Or have better thru put for more devices online?
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: Hard Harry on March 20, 2011, 11:23:53 AM
As of now? No. No ISP is bonding more then 4 channels outside beta testing. Eventually they will start to, its not going to be something where they flick a switch and all of a sudden your getting 8 channels. Each ISP decides how many channels are needed, or capable of, for each market, or each area, or each node. This wil depend on maxium usage, adverage usages, number of users, distance covered, and capability of the infructure. As you open the channels, your opening the band for possible ingress to leak in, and Its very important that they control that or D3 connectivity issues will be the norm. Already they are the number one complaint for power users on most ISP forums.

So yea, 6180 is a more capable modem, but pointless as of now. Maybe in another year or so.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: Hard Harry on March 22, 2011, 04:12:26 PM
FYI, Netflix is down. Been down about 50min now, entire country. Called and confirmed. Just incase someone thinks its their 4500. Heh
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on March 22, 2011, 05:57:57 PM
Must be the 4500 you have man. Mine works just fine.  :P
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: Hard Harry on March 22, 2011, 08:16:51 PM
http://www.multichannel.com/article/465680-Netflix_Hit_By_Outage.php

Oooh rally?  :P
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on March 22, 2011, 09:45:07 PM
I have no idea what your talking about...it's working here.  ;D
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: Hard Harry on March 23, 2011, 12:24:32 AM
I have no idea what your talking about...it's working here.  ;D

Well I personally called Netflix and they confirmed it was effecting all streaming (with the exception of people using Tivo, which has a older UI) in the country. In my case, what made it totally freaky is it happened at the climax of Donnie Darko when the timer runs out. ::shiver:: Mad world indeed.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on March 23, 2011, 08:04:12 AM
I bet that was a hair raising personal experience for you. I'm sorry for you though. I wish I could have been there for you, sorry I wasn't.. I was busy watching netflix and enjoying the access on my 4500.  :P
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: kargo27 on March 23, 2011, 05:32:42 PM
Yeah, I wasn't aware of it, either!  We watched "Below" last night and no issues.  Lovin' the 4500 and Charter cable!   :P
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: kargo27 on March 23, 2011, 05:36:29 PM
On another subject, did any of you get an online survey from D-Link about what kind of router you may be interested in in the future?  They basically wanted to know how much you'd want to spend on a router (with a high-end limit of $200).

Shoot, after this great router, I'd gladly spend $200 on a high performance one like it!
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: Hard Harry on March 23, 2011, 06:47:03 PM
::Moved from Spammer thread::

Your right. There isn't alot of spam and I shouldn't be upset. I guess its not the lack of ability. but the lack of effort that annoys me. Even if they took just two employees from their phone support, and put them as active moderators, with the help of the active user base they have here, they could handle the volume of 50+ employees. Just from a economical stand point it makes sense. Where I think the lack of understand comes from is that keeping a customer from calling the support line to begin is actually cheaper then handling it quickly. The amount of money spent to maintain the forum is pretty static (minus the minor cost of  bandwidth for a almost entirely text based website), so the more people they have going to it for their answers, the more money they are making.  But in a lot of exec's eyes, call volume is easier to track and rationize to the bottom line. Since they cant see the amount of people who don't call in because of the site, it seems like wasted money to them. I don't know this as fact of course, just reasonable conjecture.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on March 24, 2011, 06:51:30 AM
Where did you get this at?  ???

I didn't get any such survey.  :(

On another subject, did any of you get an online survey from D-Link about what kind of router you may be interested in in the future?  They basically wanted to know how much you'd want to spend on a router (with a high-end limit of $200).

Shoot, after this great router, I'd gladly spend $200 on a high performance one like it!
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: kargo27 on March 24, 2011, 07:29:46 AM
They emailed it to me.  I looked for it in my Trash folder but it's not there anymore.  :(

I registered my 4500 and I think left a box checked that asked me if I wanted to participate in surveys.  I think it was D-Link but may have been Linksys.   :P
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on March 24, 2011, 07:35:41 AM
ah...probably the case. Interesting there doing that though.

Soon as I get my 3rd 4500 in to day, I'll go register it.  ;D
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: kargo27 on March 24, 2011, 07:14:56 PM
ah...probably the case. Interesting there doing that though.

Soon as I get my 3rd 4500 in to day, I'll go register it.  ;D

Sweet!  Is that your triple backup?   ;D
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: kargo27 on March 24, 2011, 07:19:37 PM
This is a weird thing.

OK, I put in a Tenda 322P Wireless N PCI card that I got from Meritline.com for $16.

Well, I have a micro MOBO and the outputs for the video card are right above the wireless PCI card.

I kept thinking I was having hardware/software issues with the PCI card because the computer would run slowly and my mouse would stop moving temporarily.

The issue was that the PCI card antennas (2) will cause some kind of interference if they're right next to the video out.  But if I point them out horizontally instead of vertically, I don't get those quirky issues.

Seriously is that screwed up or what???  Who would have thought that the PCI card antennas orientation would cause such weird things to happen?
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on March 25, 2011, 08:14:16 AM
Whoda thunk...interesting that angle and even signal is interfering with video signals...totally different. However possible.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on March 25, 2011, 08:16:02 AM
Received my 3rd 4500 yesterday, A2 HW FW v1.21NA loaded. I'm on dialup. Can someone help me get it set up? I'm on WiFi and want to use the 430Mb connection. It's connecting but no internet.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: kargo27 on March 25, 2011, 09:07:27 AM
ROFL!  I think Harry has some insight into that configuration, Furr!
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on March 25, 2011, 09:53:55 AM
so where did you register your unit at? I want to do the same for mine.

Eh, I found it... ::)
http://registration.dlink.com/?model=DGL-4500 (http://registration.dlink.com/?model=DGL-4500)
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: Hard Harry on March 25, 2011, 07:40:53 PM
This is a weird thing.

OK, I put in a Tenda 322P Wireless N PCI card that I got from Meritline.com for $16.

Well, I have a micro MOBO and the outputs for the video card are right above the wireless PCI card.

I kept thinking I was having hardware/software issues with the PCI card because the computer would run slowly and my mouse would stop moving temporarily.

The issue was that the PCI card antennas (2) will cause some kind of interference if they're right next to the video out.  But if I point them out horizontally instead of vertically, I don't get those quirky issues.

Seriously is that screwed up or what???  Who would have thought that the PCI card antennas orientation would cause such weird things to happen?

Yea, thats pretty weird. Another thing you might want to try is a external antenna for the PCI card. You will need to do research which one is compatible. but once you have it it couldn't be easier to install. Unscrew current antenna, screw in new on that has a wire that goes to a antenna that you tape to <insert convience antenna place here>

Examples (http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=100010073%20600044604&IsNodeId=1&bop=And&Order=REVIEWS&PageSize=20)
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: kargo27 on March 26, 2011, 06:00:10 AM
Yea, thats pretty weird. Another thing you might want to try is a external antenna for the PCI card. You will need to do research which one is compatible. but once you have it it couldn't be easier to install. Unscrew current antenna, screw in new on that has a wire that goes to a antenna that you tape to <insert convience antenna place here>

Examples (http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=100010073%20600044604&IsNodeId=1&bop=And&Order=REVIEWS&PageSize=20)

Harry, funny you should link that.  I actually have 1 of the 1 ft. long antennas and one of the stubby, shorter types with the cord.

Unfortunately, on this brand, Tenda, the antennas are permanently attached.  they swivel but the lead wires look to be soldered.  I'll double check later to verify, though.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: Hard Harry on March 26, 2011, 03:05:56 PM
Hmm, its complicated though. I think only some of the antennas are active in different modes. IE, if NIMO is active, it needs all three. Also, I have taken off two of the three antenna, and seen only a small decrease in signal. I think the one closest to the power adapter is the main one when using G only. Don't quote me on that. I have never had accurate enough equipment to test.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: kargo27 on March 29, 2011, 05:42:07 AM
Does anybody want/need some wireless-G PCI cards?  I have 3 I will give away.  I upgraded to wireless N so I don't need them.

They are standard size, but one will fit in a compact computer case.  I just used Windows to install the drivers and then did a Windows update and it found the most current one.  They work fine and have been stable in our computers.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on March 29, 2011, 07:17:23 AM
Hmmm... :o
Sure you don't want to keep them for back up?
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: kargo27 on March 29, 2011, 08:26:30 AM
Nah, I'm rolling the dice!  ;D

Do you want them, Furry?  PM me if you do!
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on March 29, 2011, 08:30:13 AM
So you like the 4500 now huh?  ;D
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: kargo27 on March 29, 2011, 09:54:27 AM
So you like the 4500 now huh?  ;D

Who me?  Oh yeah!  I never disliked it.   ;D

If you're asking because of that thread about what router would you buy if it wasn't a 4500, that was just a hypothetical one.   :D
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: Hard Harry on March 29, 2011, 10:01:24 AM
Ebay my man. Heh

No use for them over here. Thanks though. Nice of you to offer. :0)
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: kargo27 on March 29, 2011, 10:25:32 AM
True, Harry.  I could have just sold them as a lot.  They weren't expensive at ALL so I'm sending them to Furry as a thank you for the help he's given me on here.   ;D
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on March 29, 2011, 10:29:23 AM
Along with the 4500.  :P
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: Hard Harry on March 29, 2011, 01:24:11 PM
Ahhh, how cool. Maybe when he gets more posts then every mod on this entire forum they will actually thank him too hmm?  :-D

ECF..the cross hairs are on you. Wha-hahahaha.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on March 29, 2011, 02:23:34 PM
Then maybe I can retire?  ???
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: Hard Harry on March 29, 2011, 04:14:30 PM
Guess who is reinstalling their OS for the forth time? ::bangs head on desk:: I have everything backed up, but damn its a pain. Anyone else have issues with .net 4 and Windows 7 64bit and SP1?
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on March 29, 2011, 05:02:57 PM
Haven't installed SP1 yet...scared too. LOL. Everything is working right now.

Haven't you heard of Ghost?
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: kargo27 on March 29, 2011, 07:59:38 PM
Guess who is reinstalling their OS for the forth time? ::bangs head on desk:: I have everything backed up, but damn its a pain. Anyone else have issues with .net 4 and Windows 7 64bit and SP1?

Ouch!
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: Hard Harry on March 29, 2011, 09:13:23 PM
Haven't installed SP1 yet...scared too. LOL. Everything is working right now.

Haven't you heard of Ghost?

I will not let anything made by Norton get near my PC.:-) Its a gaming rig, so I don't keep much on the OS drive and keep the 2nd drive backed up to a external via eSATA. System recoveries and back ups I find cause issues, since its not 100%. I had a recovery partition set to wipe to a clean state, but it doesn't work with my SSD. Perhaps its for the best. I am seeing those new Intel 510's and thinking of upgrading. Probably give this drive to my little brother.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: LookIntoMyEyees on March 29, 2011, 10:17:41 PM
Been busy guys, I see there has been a lot of chatters here. FurryNutz and Wireless G PCI cards...... Seriously man? Step your game up! Wireless N 5GHz. HeHe..Doing some speed optimization over here and what not. Join the the fun!

http://www.speedtest.net/wave/847eedd58ef9fbad?
 (http://www.speedtest.net/wave/847eedd58ef9fbad?)
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Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on March 30, 2011, 06:54:23 AM
Hey man, long time...we figured you dumped us for some other competitor forum and gave up on your 4500.  :P

And what wrong with G? I was actually thinking on going to A.  ;D
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: LookIntoMyEyees on March 30, 2011, 11:21:07 AM
After all this time I have here I won't be going anytime soon, can't just pull what Trikein did on us... Seriously miss that guy.

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Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on March 30, 2011, 12:25:50 PM
Ya, good old Tricky. I'm sure he's around somewheres.  ::)
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: LookIntoMyEyees on March 30, 2011, 01:21:32 PM
LOL, you make it seem as he has moved to bigger thing's "Works For D-Link" AH well that guy really had it in him. My integrated graphic card is failing :( so I guess I will replace it with this, what you think of it? Its low powered but I won't be gaming on this system no more. Got others for that.

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=5083793&sku=M452-4352 (http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=5083793&sku=M452-4352)

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Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on March 30, 2011, 01:28:07 PM
I'm a fan of Nvidia but thats me.  :-*
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=5581213&CatId=3670 (http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=5581213&CatId=3670)

I also like the additional FAN too.  ;D
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: LookIntoMyEyees on March 30, 2011, 01:56:35 PM
I also prefer them with a fan, I am picking out a low power one I believe that shouldn't be an issue. Nvidia is very good to, but I personally prefer the way ATI handles there programs. One program fits most of the graphic cards. For the price they both are great GPU's, plus sometimes those fan can get noisy :) I will look into it more.

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Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on March 30, 2011, 01:59:17 PM
Let us know what you get...
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: Hard Harry on March 30, 2011, 08:50:36 PM
@ Mr LIME. Hehehe. Sounds like a cool guy.  ;D

As for ATI vs Nvida..hmm. I was gun ho ATI for a while, but this last 5770 I had has changed my mind. I have had so many issues with its drivers that I am starting to think to go Nvida next time. The fact that the installer for Nvida has a option for a clean uninstall is such a big deal for me, and don't know why ATI couldn't get there heads out their bums to attach that option to their install/uninstall wizard long ago. Have you looked at the recommended uninstall process latly? Its litterly like 15 steps.

Then again, ATI has OpenCL, which I need to read up on, but its something Nvida users seem to be jealous of. But then there is the change at the corporate level AMD made towards ATI, and I wonder how that going to effect support of products going down the line. Who knows, they both make great cards, and they both have put out some bad cards. I think next build I am going to try out Nvida just to compare.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: LookIntoMyEyees on March 31, 2011, 10:38:17 PM
Hey guys,

So I figured maybe those graphics cards might not be such a great idea, any suggestions besides those two? First I won't be doing heavy gaming and secondly I will run a lot of programs and maybe such that will require some graphics but not much. So can you help me out here? Also I will stream full screen 1080p videos at a resolution of 1360 x 768 or greater. By installing a graphic card I will be also taking the load off my ram and CPU which should free up some recourse.  Thank you guys, D link forum Ftw.

"Think I found it" Still I want your take on it"

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=5648548&CatId=3669 (http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=5648548&CatId=3669)

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Chris
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: LookIntoMyEyees on April 01, 2011, 02:06:01 PM
Okay guys, I am finally leaving. This is my final post I will ever make, I hope you guys continue the work on these forums. I believe you guys are enough and more are not needed. I hope I have done great to contribute in helping but my time has come. Bye guys.

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Chris
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on April 01, 2011, 02:39:29 PM
April Fools huh?  ::)
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: Hard Harry on April 01, 2011, 07:45:07 PM
Or maybe something else?  ;)

Either way, Don't go Mr Lime. You are the PS3 Ying to Furry's 360 Yang. If you leave, the console powers will become imbalanced and the great war will start again. For the love of the children, stay!

Hehe.  ;D
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: LookIntoMyEyees on April 01, 2011, 08:18:10 PM
Those are the most hurtful words I have heard, I will not leave. I don't want to be held responsible for the next great way :) Anyways It was an April fools joke -_- not that I am important or anything  ::)
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: kargo27 on April 01, 2011, 09:31:59 PM
Ha!  I missed it but saw right through it.  You're too invested in here to leave, Chris, you have a PS3 Gamefuel sticky for crying out loud!   :P
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: Hard Harry on April 10, 2011, 05:28:37 PM
Anyone have any suggestions on good house/D&B/Jungle/Hardcore/Trance/Electronica suggestions? My collection has gotten a bit stale and now sure where to look for whats new. Here is the kind of stuff I listen to now.

Orbital
Prodigy
Leftfield
Juno Reactor
Underworld
DaftPunk
Crystal Method

Looking for something high energy but complex. Any thoughts?
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on April 11, 2011, 06:48:39 AM
AH, a man after my own heart, I think I'm in love.  :-*
I listen to BT, Hybrid, Sasha, Digweed, Sandra Collins, Orb. I used to DJ years back. I miss it.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: Hard Harry on April 11, 2011, 02:32:10 PM
Ahh, Sasha and Digweed. I forgot about them, I will have to check them out. I have most of BT's work, including mix tape with one of his first remixes of Blue Sky's with Tori Amos. Binary Universe is probably my favorite though.

Heres some artist I found while exploring last night

Cylob
Chicane
Rob Dougan
VNV Nation
Apex Twix (I had Window Licker already but DLed their entire libary.
Pendulum
Junkie XL
Lords of Acid

I was looking for

Alienhearts
DJ White Russian
Some good Old School Jungle (Before it was D&B)
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on April 11, 2011, 03:04:07 PM
Do you have BTs new stuff?  ::)
I have ALL of this stuff. I Think. Hehe.  ::)
I have a couple of lords of acid CDs, buddy of mine loves junkie XL.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: Hard Harry on April 11, 2011, 03:08:24 PM
Allllll of it? Probably not, but his main albums, yes. He has done a boat load of remixes though.

And yea, I am trying to see whats out there. I don't go to clubs or anything, and none of my friends are into electronica, and lord knows nothing good gets played on the radio. So when I am in the mood for something new, I have to look. There used to be tons of music sites you could just download DJ sets..back before DRM was king.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on April 11, 2011, 04:22:28 PM
I have ALL ALBUMS and Mixes.  ;D

Ya, I got a lot. Used to go on road trips to look for music. Now mainly get it off the internet or ebay.

I just checked out WinMX, still going.  ::)
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: Hard Harry on April 11, 2011, 08:30:20 PM
They should call you Furr-E. King of the Roll, eye roll that is. Heh

I will have to check them out. I think the one I used to go to was Ravelinks? This was 5-10 years ago though, completely different then current site by that name. Also Cheesecraft? Was a Happy Hardcore forum.

Oh, BTW, if you ever hear of a old Jungle set performed by DJ Onionz (before he switched to house) when he was at Club Nasa, let me know. Was the tape that got me into electronica and my friend lost it. 200$ reward out on it now. Intro break was a mix of Le Freak by Chic. Good stuff.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: kargo27 on April 13, 2011, 05:00:15 PM
OK, so I'm having trouble with this new LED monitor.

Updated my graphics card but still the resolution isn't right and it's not making the most of the screen.

I was able to get it to only show 1/2 inch to 1/4 inch of "black" around the screen image but the text is not crisp and sharp so something is still wrong.

BTW, what is an Open CL driver?
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: Hard Harry on April 13, 2011, 05:12:51 PM
Quote
<OK, Gurus, I have another problem.

I just got an LG E2360 23" LED monitor.

I can't get the resolution right on it.  If I run it at 1776x1000 the text is sharper and clearer but the image has a 1/2 inch to 1 inch border around it.....it's not maximizing the screen size!

If I lower the resolution it maximizes the screen size but looks awful because it's not in correct ratio and text is more blurred.

I've updated my graphics card driver but that didn't seem to help.

I'm running Windows 7 64 bit, my graphics card is an ATI Radeon HD 5770.>

First set your resolution to the native 1920 x 1080. Next, a tip taken from page 9 of the manual

‘AUTO’ Function? When you encounter problems such as a blurry screen, blurred letters,
screen flicker or tilted screen while using the device the monitor or after changing screen
resolution, press the AUTO function button to improve resolution.

Also, how are you connecting to the monitor? According to page 10, HDMI is configured best for AV equipment, otherwise they suggest DVI-D, so use that if you have it. Page 19 set Orginal Mode to Wide, and try with Overscan off (if still using HDMI). Last, make sure you refreash is set to 60hz, though it should lock it in at that. If that doesn't work, do you have the full Catalyst Suite? I also have two 5770's and I remeber some settings in there where you could override output settings. But I have display driver only now (too many conflicts with the Catalyst Suite and SC2 beta).







Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: Hard Harry on April 13, 2011, 05:16:59 PM
BTW, what is an Open CL driver?

In short, allows for programers to program games that allow for better performance from ATI cards. Its software that let the video card take more of the load off the CPU. Your probably wanted to know if you should download it with the update= yes.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: kargo27 on April 13, 2011, 05:39:52 PM
Thanks Harry.  Yes, I've tried all those things EXCEPT a DVI-D cable.  I don't have one but will run to Radio Shack and pay an outrageous sum for one.

BBIAB
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: kargo27 on April 13, 2011, 07:09:49 PM
OK, it was the HDMI cable.  My graphics card and/or the monitor didn't like it.  However, it works great with my XBOX.

I got a DVI-D cable at Radioshack for $30.  Oh well, it works so all is good.  I just don't understand why the HDMI cable wouldn't work.  I tried a couple of them.  I think it was the 1.3v but don't know if that makes a difference.

Thanks Harry!
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: Hard Harry on April 13, 2011, 07:25:20 PM
Yea, think it has something to do with the Sync rate. Monitor is only capable of 60hz when digital, unlike the 2260, so your 5770 defaulted to the native resolution of 60hz which is 720, while 30hz is 1080. Simply put, 2260 is a monitor that works as a TV, 2360 is a TV that works as a monitor. Xbox's like TV's, video cards like monitors. Not entirly accurate but the best I can do without wasting your time :-)

PS. If you want to learn more, look up ddc/di in Wiki. Its admazing what kind of technology goes on invisible behind plug&play tech.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: Hard Harry on April 13, 2011, 09:07:07 PM
Hmm, random thought. Would anyone be interested if I work on getting a separate forum up and going? One with a chat room? Maybe a outbound message system. Does anyone have any domain they prefer? Suggestions? Its very much hypothetical at this point.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on April 14, 2011, 06:47:59 AM
What would this forum be regarding?
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: kargo27 on April 14, 2011, 01:43:07 PM
Yea, think it has something to do with the Sync rate. Monitor is only capable of 60hz when digital, unlike the 2260, so your 5770 defaulted to the native resolution of 60hz which is 720, while 30hz is 1080. Simply put, 2260 is a monitor that works as a TV, 2360 is a TV that works as a monitor. Xbox's like TV's, video cards like monitors. Not entirly accurate but the best I can do without wasting your time :-)

PS. If you want to learn more, look up ddc/di in Wiki. Its admazing what kind of technology goes on invisible behind plug&play tech.

Great info and explanation, thanks!!!

Oddly, my 360 seems to work fine on this monitor.

But now I have another issue.  I got a D-Link DWA-552 Xtreme N PCI card and it's sketchy.....dropping signal, having to reinstall the software if I turn the computer off.  I'm sending it back to newegg.com.

Unless you guys have some suggestions, of course!   Edit, I found this...... http://forums.dlink.com/index.php?topic=24065.0  Mine is a 64bit system.

Yes, I'd join your forum!

You could call it Hard Harry's House of Misfit Toys....but that sounds like a p0rno.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on April 14, 2011, 02:03:31 PM
THE PCI card work in any other PC or OS?
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: kargo27 on April 14, 2011, 04:04:55 PM
THE PCI card work in any other PC or OS?

Good question, Furry, I don't know.  All our computers are 64 bit OS's and I didn't try it.  I'm sending it back to newegg.  No worries.  Too bad, too, it's a well made card but looks like it has incompatibilities with 64 bit Windows OS's.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on April 14, 2011, 04:45:57 PM
Doesn't have up to date drivers for x64 OSs?
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: kargo27 on April 14, 2011, 05:19:44 PM
If it does, they're not easily found.  I checked over in the DWA-552 forum and no one's posted since January but many of the posts I read had the same issue.

No big deal, I was just hoping for a nice D-Link PCI card to go with the 4500 but this older TRENDnet is working fine.  ;)
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: Hard Harry on April 14, 2011, 09:29:16 PM
Good question, Furry, I don't know.  All our computers are 64 bit OS's and I didn't try it.  I'm sending it back to newegg.  No worries.  Too bad, too, it's a well made card but looks like it has incompatibilities with 64 bit Windows OS's.

I had a older D-link PCI wireless G card, and I had nothing but great luck with it. Haven't heard anything about yours though. First rule of thumb though, no matter who your buying from, never, ever, install the client. Use the CD only if it gives the option to install the driver only. You always want to use the windows wireless client. Thats like using windows update to update your ATI driver. ::grin:: and I am sure you know how well that goes down. Windows knows ATI hardware no better then Dlink knows Microsoft software.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on April 15, 2011, 06:59:41 AM
I think it's operator error.  :o
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: Hard Harry on April 15, 2011, 05:59:22 PM
Nahhhhhhhhhhhh.  ;D

But seriously, thats how we all learn. ::grin::
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: kargo27 on April 16, 2011, 09:14:38 AM
Ha! Operator error!

I've done the following multiple times:

Installed and uninstalled the CD software, installed and uninstalled the drivers using Windows.

I've even tried uninstalling everything D-Link, removed the card, booted up the computer, turned off onboard LAN in the BIOS, shut it down, installed the card again and manually pointed to the "correct" driver.

Still sketchy connection, drops and other assorted BS.  I have it packaged and sending it back to newegg for credit.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on April 16, 2011, 11:17:32 AM
Looks like he did he homework.  ;D
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: Hard Harry on April 16, 2011, 01:19:27 PM
Still sketchy connection, drops and other assorted BS.  I have it packaged and sending it back to newegg for credit.

Newegg FTW! I am extremly lucky to be so close to one of their main distribution hubs in NJ. I sometimes get things next day, free shipping. Its crazy.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on April 16, 2011, 01:25:31 PM
Don't brag SIR!  :P
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: kargo27 on April 16, 2011, 05:36:41 PM
Newegg's great!  Lucky Harry!
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: LookIntoMyEyees on April 18, 2011, 08:24:30 PM
I tried blocking a certain site on this router, I must say it is the most stupidest way to block on earth. I managed to get the site blocked but guess what, it tells the user the site is being blocked by the router. I know other methods but I thought I could relay on my router to do it but now I know that I can't. Anyone know how to bypass this?

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Chris
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on April 18, 2011, 08:36:27 PM
Try editing the Host file if you are really wanting to block a web site or address.  ::)
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: LookIntoMyEyees on April 18, 2011, 08:38:52 PM
Try editing the Host file if you are really wanting to block a web site or address.  ::)

May you further explain yourself sir? If you mean manually going into his pc and blocking the sites; I will not do that.

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Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on April 19, 2011, 07:23:39 AM
Kinda extreme isn't it.  ::)
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: Hard Harry on April 19, 2011, 02:56:12 PM
May you further explain yourself sir? If you mean manually going into his pc and blocking the sites; I will not do that.

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You could sign up for a DynDNS account. I think there still free for this service. It would set up a recursive DNS server that you would set as the static DNS for the router and enable DNS relay. I think you can run the client on your PC to update and control, and you could black list certian domains. They need to be specific though, so thats harder then you think. Only get wildcard with the Pro level. Also, if you set a static IP on the PC, it would override any DNS on the router. Or you could use a proxy and that would get around it too. Last, it would still show a custom log on page. If your looking for a 404 error, thats actually pretty hard to do. Whats the reason though? Why do you need someone not to know your blocking them? Just tell them not to go to the site, log access, and if they go to it, mac filter kill their connection. Fool proof method, simple method, anom method; pick two. :-)

PS. Heres a link  (http://www.liberiangeek.net/2010/05/how-to-protect-your-coDYmputers-with-dyndns-web-content-filtering-system/)with more info on how to set up the DnyDNS service.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: LookIntoMyEyees on April 21, 2011, 01:34:15 AM
My solution was OpenDNS, if they know I blocked them than they will ask me to unblock the site for them. Nothing important really, I just didn't want them accessing that site, for their own good. But who am I to judge what is good for one and what’s not? I will soon give them access back.

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Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: LookIntoMyEyees on April 21, 2011, 08:51:44 PM
I feel so rude, I am sorry but I forgot to thank you guys for helping me and giving me ideas, so thank you very much. I really appreciated what you guys did, Also I can't stop but to wonder the next generation of gamerlounge routers!, not that I need an upgrade but an upgrade would never kill anyone. Also since this is an discussion thread, I would like to ask you guys how do you feel that many ISP are now putting a cap to how much Gigs you can download a month! That is insane! Also all this net neutrality talk Etc "moves to Europe were the internet is faster than the one of USA"

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Chris
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: Hard Harry on April 21, 2011, 10:09:51 PM
Well the bandwidth capping and net neutrality discussions are completely separate, but both are interesting. How do you want to approach the subject? Its a wide reaching topic.

I am Pro caps, as long as they are reasonable. They should effect no more then the upper 3-4% of the user base. I see it as supply and demand. Demand is increasing faster then the cost of supply. Not to say the cost of bandwidth has increased, because internally it has decreased by alot, but the cost alot of ISP's are investing into their infrastructure has increased in the last 10 years. IPv6, DOCSIS 3.0, new ADSL technology,etc. Now granted, in a perfect world, the decrease in over head would make up for the increase in investment, but thats not how companies see it. If profits didn't increase with investment, it would be alot harder to sell the idea of investing. So when ISP's put money into a system, they want to find ways to get more money out of it. Now that can be with price hikes, but that has a negative effect on total numbers of customers. So they find ways to increase profits with the benefits gained by the upgrades. This is being done by making their network more efficient. If 2% of their users are taking up 80% of their bandwidth, that is not efficient. I am just pulling those numbers from thin air, but you get my point. So I see the caps like a tax in the rich. Not only does it make more money for the ISP but it free's up bandwidth for the average user, in essence, giving them a possible increase in speed. Just like a tax on the rich gets the government the money it needs, it also leaves some left over for tax breaks for the rest of us. Granted, this is a vast simplification on both front. I also respect the valid opinion of people who are Anti caps, (and anti tax increases for that matter) but I use it to state my point.

As for Net Neutrality..your going to have to give me some context on that one. Thats like saying "Hey, how do you feel about freedom?" Heh
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on April 22, 2011, 07:02:56 AM
Ah, good to see LIVELY discussions here in the forum.  ::)
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on April 22, 2011, 02:45:59 PM
3000 baby  ::) ;D :D ;)
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: LookIntoMyEyees on April 22, 2011, 03:00:33 PM
3000 baby  ::) ;D :D ;)

Woot! congrats, how should we celebrate?

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Chris
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on April 22, 2011, 03:04:51 PM
I'm gonna go home, get some beer on the way, and get drunk. Wanna join?  :o

Hope everyone has a great weekend.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: Hard Harry on April 22, 2011, 09:27:58 PM
3000 baby  ::) ;D :D ;)

(http://cloggedgears.files.wordpress.com/2008/08/3000-over.jpg)

Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: LookIntoMyEyees on April 22, 2011, 09:37:17 PM
I don't belive you would drink and get drunk, how are you going to post information that makes sense? How are you going to play halo and do good? Have a great weekend. Btw So Hard Harry the question is are you "funchords" that dude is pretty sick, over 13k post and 11 years of experience, master... teach me the way of the computer.

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Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: Hard Harry on April 22, 2011, 09:48:35 PM
Nope, not Funchords, but tell me about him? Quick google search didn't pull up anything that rings a bell. Where does he hang out? Forum? Youtube? Blog? And seriously, the more I learn, the more I learn how little I know in the scheme of things. I am all self taught, and with my recent promotion, I am now the little fish in a HUGE pond. Its soo much fun, but boy is it humbling.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: LookIntoMyEyees on April 22, 2011, 10:18:45 PM
Nope, not Funchords, but tell me about him? Quick google search didn't pull up anything that rings a bell. Where does he hang out? Forum? Youtube? Blog? And seriously, the more I learn, the more I learn how little I know in the scheme of things. I am all self taught, and with my recent promotion, I am now the little fish in a HUGE pond. Its soo much fun, but boy is it humbling.

Didn't understand what you were implying, but I didn't google him, I saw the link and your post about that. Nvm if thats not you than my compliment was useless lol. Also this is what I think about the cap and throatle issues, if you subscribed to 1.5Gbps that means you need all that speed, but than they give you 60Gb monthly than what's the point for that much speed? You need more speed because you are downloading big files. Its like I give you a bugatti veyron but you have X amount of track to run it on.

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Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: Hard Harry on April 22, 2011, 11:24:50 PM
Oh, I see who you meant. The guy on DSLReports. No, I am not him. I mostly keep a low profile on DSL reports. So many angry misinformed people. Not to say there aren't intelligent people there too(lots), it just seems those people don't get as angry as much it seems.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: LookIntoMyEyees on April 24, 2011, 10:54:33 AM
Hey guys, I was looking for a post I read about someone having issues with the priority list? He said that he placed it in 1 but it the sessions it was never 1? Do any of you recall this? I can't find his post and I am lost :(

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Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: Hard Harry on April 25, 2011, 04:02:55 PM
Is this the post that was just answered? Or something different?  I found these

how did you setup the tests for only Local port ranges and only Remote Port ranges, did you just enter 0.0.0.0 or leave it black because I keep getting an invalid starting IP address.  I have tried every combination but I am still getting 128 priority on all ports in every Dir to xBoxLive.
e.g.
192.168.0.199:3074   99.232.xxx.xxx:3074   65.55.42.180:3074   UDP   -   Out   128   25

I thought there was another too, but can't find it. Can you give me any other criteria? Like general time frame of post?

Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: Hard Harry on April 25, 2011, 04:07:02 PM
BTW, anyone know any inside info on when PSN will be up. I asked a few friends that do the whole Anom scene and they say they really didn't do it. LOL. Did Sony raise the ire of a more possessional group?
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: kargo27 on April 25, 2011, 04:19:05 PM
Harry, I wish I knew WTF it was.  It's been what, over 5 days now?
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: Hard Harry on April 25, 2011, 04:32:24 PM
What has me nervous is that its taking so long. You can do a security overhaul in two days (unless they are changing systems, which I doubt they would dish the money out for). So, to me, that means data recovery. Which means there may be data loss. Take that and combine it with the fact the group hasn't come forwards tells me they weren't doing it for publicity. The next likely motive would be profit. Last, the timing places the intrusion around the time Steam was tied to PSN. So you have a small group hacking PSN for profit, with a gateway through the PSN account system, after which there was possible data loss. I am afraid that our PSN store accounts were hacked then wiped (to cover tracks) on a global scale. And in a way that got passed the backups. This is worst case scenario and very hypothetical. Its a scary thought though.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: kargo27 on April 25, 2011, 05:52:52 PM
Yikes!  If you're right, it would make a great Hollywood movie, but I think we better check our credit card purchases!
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: LookIntoMyEyees on April 25, 2011, 06:32:06 PM
Ha sucks for those with playstation, Xbox360 here I come! (So much sarcasm)

Don't forget that Xbox live had a down time on 2007 for about 11 days or so. I could agree with hard harry, I still do believe that a part of anon did this, if not than it was Sony taking advantage of the situation to further improve their servers Etc.

Kudos to them
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But seriously, heres the latest update on PSN Being down.

"I know you are waiting for additional information on when PlayStation Network and Qriocity services will be online. Unfortunately, I don’t have an update or timeframe to share at this point in time.
As we previously noted, this is a time intensive process and we’re working to get them back online quickly. We’ll keep you updated with information as it becomes available. We once again thank you for your patience."

Edit:

Some legit information has come to my hand, http://www.reddit.com/r/gaming/comments/gx6o4/im_a_moderator_over_at_psxscenecom_the_real/ (http://www.reddit.com/r/gaming/comments/gx6o4/im_a_moderator_over_at_psxscenecom_the_real/) Most likely the reason for PSN to be down.

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Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on April 26, 2011, 11:45:01 AM
http://www.zdnet.com/blog/government/6-important-things-about-the-ongoing-playstation-network-outage-that-sony-wont-reveal/10306 (http://www.zdnet.com/blog/government/6-important-things-about-the-ongoing-playstation-network-outage-that-sony-wont-reveal/10306)
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: LookIntoMyEyees on April 26, 2011, 12:00:44 PM
Trophies will syn back up, they are always backed up on the Ps3 console, this article points out good things though. I guess Psn will be down for a week or two. Mhmm What to do with all this time?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_xKV9BFEEXQ&feature=player_embedded&oref=http%3A%2F%2Fs.ytimg.com%2Fyt%2Fswfbin%2Fwatch_as3-vflfRwpsJ.swf&has_verified=1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_xKV9BFEEXQ&feature=player_embedded&oref=http%3A%2F%2Fs.ytimg.com%2Fyt%2Fswfbin%2Fwatch_as3-vflfRwpsJ.swf&has_verified=1)

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Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: LookIntoMyEyees on April 26, 2011, 12:57:29 PM
UPDATE from Sony....


"Thank you for your patience while we work to resolve the current outage of PlayStation Network & Qriocity services. We are currently working to send a similar message to the one below via email to all of our registered account holders regarding a compromise of personal information as a result of an illegal intrusion on our systems. These malicious actions have also had an impact on your ability to enjoy the services provided by PlayStation Network and Qriocity including online gaming and online access to music, movies, sports and TV shows. We have a clear path to have PlayStation Network and Qriocity systems back online, and expect to restore some services within a week.
We’re working day and night to ensure it is done as quickly as possible. We appreciate your patience and feedback.
Valued PlayStation Network/Qriocity Customer:
We have discovered that between April 17 and April 19, 2011, certain PlayStation Network and Qriocity service user account information was compromised in connection with an illegal and unauthorized intrusion into our network. In response to this intrusion, we have:
Temporarily turned off PlayStation Network and Qriocity services;
Engaged an outside, recognized security firm to conduct a full and complete investigation into what happened; and
Quickly taken steps to enhance security and strengthen our network infrastructure by re-building our system to provide you with greater protection of your personal information.
We greatly appreciate your patience, understanding and goodwill as we do whatever it takes to resolve these issues as quickly and efficiently as practicable.
Although we are still investigating the details of this incident, we believe that an unauthorized person has obtained the following information that you provided: name, address (city, state, zip), country, email address, birthdate, PlayStation Network/Qriocity password and login, and handle/PSN online ID. It is also possible that your profile data, including purchase history and billing address (city, state, zip), and your PlayStation Network/Qriocity password security answers may have been obtained. If you have authorized a sub-account for your dependent, the same data with respect to your dependent may have been obtained. While there is no evidence at this time that credit card data was taken, we cannot rule out the possibility. If you have provided your credit card data through PlayStation Network or Qriocity, out of an abundance of caution we are advising you that your credit card number (excluding security code) and expiration date may have been obtained.
For your security, we encourage you to be especially aware of email, telephone, and postal mail scams that ask for personal or sensitive information. Sony will not contact you in any way, including by email, asking for your credit card number, social security number or other personally identifiable information. If you are asked for this information, you can be confident Sony is not the entity asking. When the PlayStation Network and Qriocity services are fully restored, we strongly recommend that you log on and change your password. Additionally, if you use your PlayStation Network or Qriocity user name or password for other unrelated services or accounts, we strongly recommend that you change them, as well.
To protect against possible identity theft or other financial loss, we encourage you to remain vigilant, to review your account statements and to monitor your credit reports. We are providing the following information for those who wish to consider it:
U.S. residents are entitled under U.S. law to one free credit report annually from each of the three major credit bureaus. To order your free credit report, visit www.annualcreditreport.com or call toll-free (877) 322-8228.
We have also provided names and contact information for the three major U.S. credit bureaus below. At no charge, U.S. residents can have these credit bureaus place a “fraud alert” on your file that alerts creditors to take additional steps to verify your identity prior to granting credit in your name. This service can make it more difficult for someone to get credit in your name. Note, however, that because it tells creditors to follow certain procedures to protect you, it also may delay your ability to obtain credit while the agency verifies your identity. As soon as one credit bureau confirms your fraud alert, the others are notified to place fraud alerts on your file. Should you wish to place a fraud alert, or should you have any questions regarding your credit report, please contact any one of the agencies listed below.
Experian: 888-397-3742; www.experian.com; P.O. Box 9532, Allen, TX 75013
Equifax: 800-525-6285; www.equifax.com; P.O. Box 740241, Atlanta, GA 30374-0241
TransUnion: 800-680-7289; www.transunion.com; Fraud Victim Assistance Division, P.O. Box 6790, Fullerton, CA 92834-6790
You may wish to visit the web site of the U.S. Federal Trade Commission at www.consumer.gov/idtheft or reach the FTC at 1-877-382-4357 or 600 Pennsylvania Avenue, NW, Washington, DC 20580 for further information about how to protect yourself from identity theft. Your state Attorney General may also have advice on preventing identity theft, and you should report instances of known or suspected identity theft to law enforcement, your State Attorney General, and the FTC. For North Carolina residents, the Attorney General can be contacted at 9001 Mail Service Center, Raleigh, NC 27699-9001; telephone (877) 566-7226; or www.ncdoj.gov. For Maryland residents, the Attorney General can be contacted at 200 St. Paul Place, 16th Floor, Baltimore, MD 21202; telephone: (888) 743-0023; or www.oag.state.md.us.
We thank you for your patience as we complete our investigation of this incident, and we regret any inconvenience. Our teams are working around the clock on this, and services will be restored as soon as possible. Sony takes information protection very seriously and will continue to work to ensure that additional measures are taken to protect personally identifiable information. Providing quality and secure entertainment services to our customers is our utmost priority. Please contact us at 1-800-345-7669 should you have any additional questions.
Sincerely,
Sony Computer Entertainment and Sony Network Entertainment"


Seriously though, I very worried about my personal information being compromised. Please not me, please god I beg of you! No need to worry right guys? out of 70 million registered PSN accounts I should be okay right?


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Chris
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on April 26, 2011, 12:58:41 PM
And Blah Blah Blah  :P

Never seen this on XBL. hehe.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on April 26, 2011, 04:35:58 PM
Important for PS game users:
http://www.zdnet.com/blog/gamification/sony-confirms-playstation-network-hack-exposed-user-info/334?tag=nl.e589 (http://www.zdnet.com/blog/gamification/sony-confirms-playstation-network-hack-exposed-user-info/334?tag=nl.e589)
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: Hard Harry on April 26, 2011, 06:01:20 PM
Yea, I knew it. If it was just damage control and bulking up security it would have been done by now. What they are doing is serious CYA and creating a paper trail to support them when the lawsuits start coming in. Which means they can't wipe their butt unless they pass it by 4 supervisors and signed in triplicate.  Depending on exactly what information was obtained, and from what country, they could even face federal charges. I would not want to be working for Sony right now.

Oh..and BTW  (http://www.zdnet.com/blog/security/xbox-live-hacked-accounts-stolen/131)   ;D ;D ;D 
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on April 26, 2011, 06:14:13 PM
Thats OLD news Harry.  :P
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: Hard Harry on April 26, 2011, 07:15:40 PM
I know. Just teasing. Im not a fan boy. If I still had a working 360 I would be playing it right now. But to be fair, I don't think XBL is inherently more secure then PSN. Its like a bank, every system has it's vulnerabilties. PSN had some bad press that put them on some people's radar and they were hit. The real test will be how they recover in the next week or so. And how they deal with their customer base. They need to eat some humble pie.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on April 29, 2011, 07:55:33 AM
Any why aren't you playing XBL with us Harry? We could always use an additional gamer!  ::)
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: LookIntoMyEyees on April 29, 2011, 08:26:21 AM
"If I still had a working 360 I would be playing it right now." Typical, everyone has been through atleast 6 Xbox360 consoles. But really FurryNutz why are you teasing? It's not like I am bored at home... Playing my single player games instead of multiplayer just because I want to! not because I am being forced! No, no, no everything is fine on Ps3, perfectly fine :)

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Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on April 29, 2011, 08:55:24 AM
Not everyone has been thru 6 xbox consoles...Yet...maybe. Just because i'm on my 3rd doesn't mean anything.  :P Cuz your buttons are easy to push and I like teasing you. It's not like I am bored at work either. Hehe. Playing single player games instead of multiplayer games sounds like an excuse. Hehe. PS3 is perfectly fine huh? Hows the network? Back up yet? Hehe.

You know l love you guys. LOL.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: LookIntoMyEyees on April 29, 2011, 11:32:08 AM
Words can't even describe wh
Not everyone has been thru 6 xbox consoles...Yet...maybe. Just because i'm on my 3rd doesn't mean anything.  :P Cuz your buttons are easy to push and I like teasing you. It's not like I am bored at work either. Hehe. Playing single player games instead of multiplayer games sounds like an excuse. Hehe. PS3 is perfectly fine huh? Hows the network? Back up yet? Hehe.

You know l love you guys. LOL.

 Dam FurryNutz why you got to go there? You're lucky you said "You know I love you guys. LOL." Other than that I would have been mad at you! Now how can I be mad at someone who cares about us? Dam.. Also excuses are only for those who make it one, unlike myself I don't do those. Ok guys! Back to single player! because I can and I don't want to be on multiplayer, because I don't want to play multiplayer.

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Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on April 29, 2011, 11:35:41 AM
 ;D
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: Hard Harry on April 29, 2011, 11:50:44 AM
Any why aren't you playing XBL with us Harry? We could always use an additional gamer!  ::)

Because my Xbox, and my Xbox elite (ya know the one they marketed as ROD proof) both died. The second case leading me contact the BBB and Microsoft Legal. So yea, the games and XBL is great. The build quality and customer support.....not so much.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: LookIntoMyEyees on April 29, 2011, 01:02:34 PM
Send one of those this way, I will burn it for you. Don't get me wrong guys I like xbox! I was a huge fanboy back in 2002-2004 but god dam, Microsoft always trying to take Sony's spotlight. They are trash and deserve to lose the console war. Also halo 1 and 2 used to be my childhood games, I had good memories with my xbox & ps2.

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Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: kargo27 on April 29, 2011, 01:16:16 PM
Because my Xbox, and my Xbox elite (ya know the one they marketed as ROD proof) both died. The second case leading me contact the BBB and Microsoft Legal. So yea, the games and XBL is great. The build quality and customer support.....not so much.

Harry did you try the RROD fix using the washers?  You can do it yourself ya know.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on April 29, 2011, 02:11:34 PM
Washers?  ???
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: Hard Harry on April 29, 2011, 11:02:16 PM
I at first wrote a huge reply here telling you the story. I won't waste your time with it though. Basically yes, the washer trick was tried. By Microsoft no less, who denied doing it, who broke it in the process, accused me of hacking my 360, and tried to ban me from XBL. All for trying to buy a 360 for my little brother for Xmas because his first two 360's died. So yea, since then I have boycotted the 360. I still like playing them over friends houses. I just won't give them one more dime of mine.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: Hard Harry on May 01, 2011, 10:35:20 AM
Hey guys,

Found this link on DSLreports. Breaks down a script fix to modify TCPAckFrequency. Haven't tested it, also don't play WoW, but thought it might be useful for some people here.

Check it out. (http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info13581-LeatrixLatencyFix.html#info)
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on May 01, 2011, 10:41:46 AM
Awesome find Harry, hope this helps with PC gamers.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on May 02, 2011, 11:13:42 AM
http://www.pcworld.com/article/226802/playstation_network_hack_timeline.html (http://www.pcworld.com/article/226802/playstation_network_hack_timeline.html)

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-13260041 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-13260041)
Title: Ouch...
Post by: FurryNutz on May 03, 2011, 11:20:45 AM
http://www.zdnet.com/blog/gamification/sony-security-hole-exposes-another-246-million-accounts/361?tag=nl.e539 (http://www.zdnet.com/blog/gamification/sony-security-hole-exposes-another-246-million-accounts/361?tag=nl.e539)  :o
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: LookIntoMyEyees on May 03, 2011, 01:05:09 PM
Okay, FurryNutz

 We understand.... Sony got hacked again and again. :( Also look what I found http://www.zdnet.com/blog/security/xbox-live-hacked-accounts-stolen/131 (http://ttp://www.zdnet.com/blog/security/xbox-live-hacked-accounts-stolen/131) Well I mean to me this seems like it is not true at all, how can one company get hacked so many times? I think this is them self doing it, but why would they want to hurt there image? Anyways I will stick with Sony through this war, and eventually if they don't add or improve PSN, I will move on.

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Chris
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on May 03, 2011, 01:17:20 PM
Sure? I'm always looking for a few good gamers to pway wif on XBL? Hehe.  ::)
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: LookIntoMyEyees on May 03, 2011, 01:27:06 PM
Sure? I'm always looking for a few good gamers to pway wif on XBL? Hehe.  ::)

 Haha, well I am very good at FPS, so I just might make your rage quit :), But I don't see it happening. I have been playing forza on my xbox recently, and my brother is picking up the new map pack, but that system is his. PSN will be back up this week, so they say.

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Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on May 03, 2011, 01:30:36 PM
Kewl. I got forza too, haven't played it online yet. Should. LOL. Well if you get bored and lonely, you can come play wif me. Hehe.  ;D
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: LookIntoMyEyees on May 03, 2011, 08:25:16 PM
Kewl. I got forza too, haven't played it online yet. Should. LOL. Well if you get bored and lonely, you can come play wif me. Hehe.  ;D

 LOL add me on xbox live, sharpkidd. No that ain't my online ID, it's my brothers since I don't pay for a service I don't use............ Ps3 I need you back on, where, where are you!, I need you!.... baby!

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Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: kargo27 on May 04, 2011, 10:27:17 AM
I suck and rage quit every so often.   ;D
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on May 04, 2011, 11:11:05 AM
I hate Black OPS. Played the other night.  >:(
I suppose I should check out the new map pack. Not sure if i'm going to invest in that game anymore.  :-\

MW2 all the way.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on May 04, 2011, 11:57:19 AM
http://www.zdnet.com/blog/networking/opendns-offers-ipv6-internet-dns-services/1013?tag=mantle_skin;content (http://www.zdnet.com/blog/networking/opendns-offers-ipv6-internet-dns-services/1013?tag=mantle_skin;content)
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: LookIntoMyEyees on May 04, 2011, 12:07:17 PM
I have the new zombie map, they pretty good.

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Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on May 04, 2011, 12:09:50 PM
I guess...just never really liked BO as much as MW2. Seem to have more fun there.  ::)
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: LookIntoMyEyees on May 04, 2011, 12:36:24 PM
Same, mw2 is much better, I love that the game is very smooth.

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Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on May 04, 2011, 12:39:52 PM
WE should play sometime LIME.  ;D
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: LookIntoMyEyees on May 04, 2011, 01:01:25 PM
I don't own Mw2 for xbox, only ps3. I own both copy of black ops for 360 and ps3.. To make things clear the xbox is mines but it's my brothers to use, so I may use it, but I don't. Mainly because I don't want to pay for xbox live for my account so I just use his.

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Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on May 04, 2011, 01:02:33 PM
I know...well, I'll play BO with ya while ur waiting for PSN to come back. I know you don't own a XBOX. LOL.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: LookIntoMyEyees on May 04, 2011, 01:07:22 PM
Send me a friend request, sharpkidd.

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Chris
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: kargo27 on May 04, 2011, 06:24:20 PM
I must be the only one who likes Black Ops.  But I'm too old and slow....or just too slow for my age so I don't play very well in multiplayer.

But I LOVE Combat Training!!!  I can set the AI's to whatever level I want.  If I'm tired and playing crappy, I'll drop the level down to recruit but normally I play regular.  Sometimes I'll get daring and play hardcore or veteran.   :D

I need to try that zombie map!!!!
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: LookIntoMyEyees on May 04, 2011, 06:47:11 PM
I know...well, I'll play BO with ya while ur waiting for PSN to come back. I know you don't own a XBOX. LOL.

 Dam FurryNutz, you have an impressive gamerId, Well at least I think it is.

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Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: LookIntoMyEyees on May 04, 2011, 10:15:51 PM
Okay, I have thought of this multiple times. The DGl 4500 has a gigabit lan port and a gigabit wan port. Which in terms mean its able to go up to 1Gbps, but if you have 4 lan ports can they all go up to 1Gbps? The answer is most likely no. So that means this router is only capable of doing 250Mbs on each gigabit lan port. 1Gb divided by 4 lan ports is 250. Anyway this is a theory I have, care to tell me what you guys think? I will start a thread soon on this matter with more information that I have gathered.

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Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on May 04, 2011, 10:21:47 PM
I saw your messages, was in the middle of gaming when they came thru. Will game soon.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: LookIntoMyEyees on May 04, 2011, 10:38:28 PM
I saw your messages, was in the middle of gaming when they came thru. Will game soon.

 You have abandon me :( I felt so lonely, all by myself.... When are you going to be available?

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Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: Hard Harry on May 04, 2011, 10:55:27 PM
Okay, I have thought of this multiple times. The DGl 4500 has a gigabit lan port and a gigabit wan port. Which in terms mean its able to go up to 1Gbps, but if you have 4 lan ports can they all go up to 1Gbps? The answer is most likely no. So that means this router is only capable of doing 250Mbs on each gigabit lan port. 1Gb divided by 4 lan ports is 250. Anyway this is a theory I have, care to tell me what you guys think? I will start a thread soon on this matter with more information that I have gathered.

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I think this is a question that will get more and more complex as you think about it. Is your question can any one LAN connect to the router at 1000Mb? Yes. Can they all connect at 1000Mbps at the same time? Yes. Can LAN1 get 1000Mbps throughput to LAN2 if LAN 3 is transfering at 1000Mbps to LAN 4? No, and thats when it gets really complicated. That connection standard just means it transfers 1 billion bits per second on the CAT6(well,almost 1 billion anyway). That only relates roughly to how much data you can transfer. Here is a good thread already done on it.

Check out the 3rd post by Frennzy (http://arstechnica.com/civis/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=343089)

Its funny too. You can track the slow break down of him as he looses his mind. I want to meet this guy.LOL
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: LookIntoMyEyees on May 05, 2011, 12:41:57 PM
Yes I understand what you are telling me, but test has been done and the DGL 4500 does not even go above 250Mbps. So I have concluded that D link has not been advertising it properly. Yes it is a gigabit router because it supports 1000Base-T but do each individual lan port achieve a speed of 1Gbps? They do not, it has a hard time passing 240Mbps. But I understand D links method of advertising, I mean they are giving you a router that's capable of doing 1Gbps overall, but just not on each individual Lan ports.

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Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: Hard Harry on May 05, 2011, 10:16:28 PM
Yes I understand what you are telling me, but test has been done and the DGL 4500 does not even go above 250Mbps.

Based on what? Where is the 250 number coming from? Connection rate? Because right now I have both the WAN and all 4 LAN connecting at 1000base. You said it has a hard time "passing". The connection rate has nothing to do with the amount of data transmitted through, or "passing" through the device. It has to do with the amount of bits that are transmited. Bits does not equal data.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OSI_model

See the OSI diagram? Bit is layer 1, which means data isn't even calculated until layer 5.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: LookIntoMyEyees on May 05, 2011, 11:43:29 PM
Based on what? Where is the 250 number coming from? Connection rate? Because right now I have both the WAN and all 4 LAN connecting at 1000base. You said it has a hard time "passing". The connection rate has nothing to do with the amount of data transmitted through, or "passing" through the device. It has to do with the amount of bits that are transmited. Bits does not equal data.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OSI_model

See the OSI diagram? Bit is layer 1, which means data isn't even calculated until layer 5.

 Hard Harry you said you have them all connected at 1000base, same as me. But that does not mean your router will achieve that speed using a lan port. Have you tested it for your self? Do you know for a fact that you can push a 2Gb file at the speeds of 1Gbps? on the DGl 4500? If so you will transfer that file in 2 seconds (aside from hardware limitations such as hard drive) which the DGl 4500 can't do. max throughput that this router can do on one of the Lan ports is 250Mbps on half dupelx, full duplex would mean (125Mbps up and 125Mbps down which = 250Mbps) So if you have a router that supports a 100base and you have 4 Lan ports that you would have 25Mbps for each of those lan ports, now add full duplex to that and you get a 12.5Mbps up and a 12.5Mbps down. I hope you can prove me wrong, but as it stands now, I think I got it right. As I said I will do a thread so we can discuss this. FurryNutz what is your take on it?

Edits: Also I think discussion like these are very great for these forums, others might stumble upon this and learn something. Also I want to point out that I am still young so I don't expect myself to know everything.

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Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: Hard Harry on May 06, 2011, 12:56:08 AM
Hard Harry you said you have them all connected at 1000base, same as me. But that does not mean your router will achieve that speed using a lan port.

Exactly! ::grin::

I think the confusion stems from the misconception that you have to pass some kind of test of passing 1000Mbps to be a 1000base connection. That just isn't the case. The standard has nothing to do with transfer rate. Think of it like a electric motor found in drill, and saying it can put out 5000RPM's. That doesn't mean if you connect that motor to a race car it will make the wheels spin 5000 rotations a min. The 1Gbps port on the DGL switches 1billion bits per second. It makes no promise of how much data it can transfer. Like the motor, it just takes the bits (electricity) and switches (spins) at a certain rate.

Also, 1000base is the standard for many other medium besides twisted pair. 1000base-lx are what some of the backbones are based of, and some of them can get speeds of 1-2GBps.

And yea, ask any questions you want. Don't mean to be bossy with my opinions. Its just this is some of the stuff I been having to wrap my brain around over the last couple of months. Its becoming less and less fun as my brain slowly starts to melt. :-)
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: LookIntoMyEyees on May 06, 2011, 03:05:04 AM
My values were all wrong, My apologies. I will do the thread as of now and correct my mistakes. I will help you guys understand, if needed. Please go and take a look at my thread, thank you very much.

http://forums.dlink.com/index.php?topic=38460.0 (http://forums.dlink.com/index.php?topic=38460.0)

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Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on May 06, 2011, 11:52:30 AM
Interesting information:
http://www.speedguide.net/articles/windows-7-vista-2008-tweaks-2574 (http://www.speedguide.net/articles/windows-7-vista-2008-tweaks-2574)
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: LookIntoMyEyees on May 07, 2011, 07:09:36 PM
So today I was looking around my router and decided to turn on logs to see what is happening on my network, I turned it on and BOOM 338 Log Entries entry's were made in under 10min. So what does this mean to me? IDK, I guess Its better to turn Logs off before it starts to slow down my router. Anyone else has logs turned on? How many logs does your reads?

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Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on May 09, 2011, 09:45:45 AM
Mine are on and I get a ton. I usually get full emailed logs every few days or so. My last long sent was Friday.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: Hard Harry on May 09, 2011, 09:52:38 AM
I usually just disable "Info" on my logs. When I do that, I get very few logs, but still get all the important ones.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: LookIntoMyEyees on May 09, 2011, 01:44:04 PM
Not a bad idea FurryNutz, How can I go about setting it up. I doubt I can, yahoo mail doesn't allow it unless I pay :(

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Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on May 09, 2011, 01:49:56 PM
I send my logs to my free aol account. Shouldn't see why Yahoo wouldn't do the same thing.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: LookIntoMyEyees on May 09, 2011, 01:56:06 PM
You have to put the Servers and stuff right? Yahoo only allows it if I pay 15 a year. I won't pay because there features don't excite me. I would change email carrier but I been with them since I was 12. Gotta love fan boys.

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Chris
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on May 09, 2011, 02:07:27 PM
In the From address i have my actual ISP email address it's comming from. name@ispmailaddress.something
In the To address I have my aol address it's addressed to. tome@yahoo.com
In the SMTP box I have my ISP actual mail server address here. myisbpoutgoingmailserver.isp.something
Port is 25 for me.
I used authentication so it's my ISP username and pw that I have set up from my ISP. username and password for ISP mail account.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: Hard Harry on May 10, 2011, 03:28:04 AM
Gmail anyone? (http://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?answer=13287) Free. Has POP and IMAP (and tons of other stuff). AOL still runs their pop servers? Wow.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: Hard Harry on May 10, 2011, 04:13:34 AM
BTW. Anyone else read that PSN is coming back on?
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But on May 31st?!?!? (http://www.inentertainment.co.uk/20110509/justifying-psn-status-to-dos-before-database-back-up-online/)

(http://th184.photobucket.com/albums/x70/RotaryTech/Other%20pix/th_Rage-Guy-Face.jpg)
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on May 10, 2011, 06:51:09 AM
Wow  ::)
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on May 10, 2011, 09:26:58 AM
Another MS acqusition:  ::)
http://www.zdnet.com/blog/microsoft/microsoft-buys-skype-for-85-billion-creates-new-business-division/9406?tag=nl.e539 (http://www.zdnet.com/blog/microsoft/microsoft-buys-skype-for-85-billion-creates-new-business-division/9406?tag=nl.e539)
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on May 10, 2011, 10:25:13 AM
Poor Sony:  ::)
http://www.zdnet.com/news/hackers-plan-third-sony-attack/6231055?tag=nl.e589 (http://www.zdnet.com/news/hackers-plan-third-sony-attack/6231055?tag=nl.e589)

On a different note:
http://www.zdnet.com/blog/security/google-chrome-hacked-with-sophisticated-exploit/8626?tag=nl.e589 (http://www.zdnet.com/blog/security/google-chrome-hacked-with-sophisticated-exploit/8626?tag=nl.e589)  ::)
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: LookIntoMyEyees on May 10, 2011, 02:42:13 PM
Skype is finally ruined, the news about PSN being back up by may 31 are not true at all, I do believe Sony said that they are hoping to restore the full network by the end of the month, the online portion and chat features will be the first one to come up, they posted today and said in a few more days. Also yea I read about the hackers plotting another attack :( they will fail :) Also what’s wrong with this year? So many hacks already, Last pass was hacked, chrome, two others of my favorite sites and play station.  :o OMG  :o

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Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: Hard Harry on May 10, 2011, 11:49:16 PM
Thats the bad thing about outsourcing your programming. Its really easy to find out the vulnerabilities and exploits of the systems out there. And with everything being in the cloud these days, once your in, its hacker heaven. A good hack still takes a lot of skill. Not that I am supporting the motives, or ignoring the consquenses, but need to give credit where credit is to. Besides, these days most "hackers" deamed in the press are just script kiddies and copy pasta monkeys, AKA Crackers. People who break into system for nothing more then personal gain or havok. A hacker is someone who looks for new ways at looking at technology, taking apart code to learn how it ticks. Until Sony confirms that the credit cards were stolen, I wonder if perhaps Sony just over reacted to someone breaking their pathetic security, and they just shut it down out of incompetence. That third attack was just copy cats, and it failed because they blabbed on a public IRC? Come on. I don't buy it. And then when Sony shut the servers down, they posted data that was obtained from a contest years ago which could have been stored on a 3rd party public server? The whole thing just seems off.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: LookIntoMyEyees on May 12, 2011, 02:04:42 PM
I was thinking the same, I didn't believe Sony got hacked, my thoughts started when Sony said they were migrating there servers to a new location that has been in process for quite a while. Come on! I think this was part of there new plan, migrate and frame the hackers at the same time. I do believe when PSN comes back up it will have a bunch of new features and capability. "Crosses fingers"

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Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: Hard Harry on May 17, 2011, 01:54:42 AM
Anyone else with me with Sony removing the wireless adapter from the PS3? Too many people have no idea how to set up their network, end up with crappy wireless connections, and ruin perfectly good games. Trying very hard to fight off the nerd rage.

Good news is PSN is up. Bad news is I don't see much of a difference.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on May 17, 2011, 07:37:49 AM
I really think that any gaming should be done over wired connection. Wireless just introduces to many variables and possibilities of lag and problems for achieving a good gaming experience. My 2 cents.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: kargo27 on May 17, 2011, 07:07:02 PM
What about them just setting a limit?  Have a program that tests your wireless connection and if it doesn't meet spec then you're not allowed to play?  Could that be done or would it not make a difference?
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: LookIntoMyEyees on May 17, 2011, 10:26:52 PM
Most of the time when you have a wireless adapter the signal is stable and the speeds are good, but when you begin playing they drop and can become unstable. Usually it starts in the transfer process, they can make the program but I think it eon't be very accurate at best. This is just me basing it on personal experiences.

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Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: Hard Harry on May 17, 2011, 11:32:54 PM
Some good news about PSN!!!! (http://community.us.playstation.com/thread/3425535)

All PlayStation Network customers can select two PS3 games from the following list. The games will be available for 30 days shortly after PlayStation Store is restored and can be kept forever.
Dead Nation
inFAMOUS
LittleBigPlanet
Super Stardust HD
Wipeout HD + Fury

For PSP owners, you will be eligible to download two PSP games from the following list. The games will be available for 30 days shortly after PlayStation Store is restored and can be kept forever.
LittleBigPlanet (PSP)
ModNation Racers
Pursuit Force
Killzone Liberation

A selection of “On Us” rental movie titles will be available to PlayStation Network customers over one weekend, where Video Service is available. Those titles will be announced soon.
30 days free PlayStation Plus membership for non PlayStation Plus subscribers.
Existing PlayStation Plus subscribers will receive an additional 60 days of free subscription.
Existing Music Unlimited Premium Trial subscription members will receive an additional 30 days of free premium subscription.
Additional 30 days + time lost for existing members of Music Unlimited Premium/Basic subscription free of charge for existing Premium/Basic members.
To welcome users Home, PlayStation Home will be offering 100 free virtual items. Additional free content will be released soon, including the next addition to the Home Mansion personal space, and Ooblag’s Alien Casino, an exclusive game.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: LookIntoMyEyees on May 17, 2011, 11:37:38 PM
Yea! I heard, you a little late there buddy. All I know is that I am getting Infamous and littlebigplanet!! Wait Hard Harry are you a big Ps3 user? Gn I am outs to sleep.

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Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: Hard Harry on May 20, 2011, 03:26:19 AM
Yea! I heard, you a little late there buddy. All I know is that I am getting Infamous and littlebigplanet!! Wait Hard Harry are you a big Ps3 user? Gn I am outs to sleep.

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Yea, I can introduce you to some people in the LBP scene. Almost everyone I played with in FP playes LBP. I think I am going to get Infamous and Dead Nation
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: LookIntoMyEyees on May 26, 2011, 08:36:43 AM
I may be a little late here guys but OMG! go into your router login interface and click on the image on the top left and it makes a sound! WOOT OMG I never knew that hahha, guys check it out :)

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Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on May 26, 2011, 08:41:39 AM
Sure thats not a default windows sound comming from the sounds section in windows?  ???
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: LookIntoMyEyees on May 26, 2011, 10:40:02 PM
FurryNutz what do I sound like? a Novice at computers? Simply go and find out for your self, once logged into the DGL 4500 interface click the gamefuel logo on the top left of the interface and you will see it. Great day to all!

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Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: kargo27 on May 29, 2011, 08:43:32 PM
I may be a little late here guys but OMG! go into your router login interface and click on the image on the top left and it makes a sound! WOOT OMG I never knew that hahha, guys check it out :)

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LOL, oh the Gamefuel thing?  I'd forgotten about that!
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: Hard Harry on May 30, 2011, 12:24:32 PM
Heh cool find. Here is something else I have been playing with. If you log into the router using chrome (other browsers will work, I just haven't taken the time to figure out how) then right click on the page and choose "Inspect Element" it launches the page's elements. One of them is called "Device_Info.shtml" which looks to be the configuration file. And theres interesting things in there. From name's of software designers, to hidden features like "Guest Wireless"? I haven't gone through it all but thought it was interesting.

BTW, I been super busy at work, so sorry if I haven't been posting that much. E3 and all that. Fun!
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: Hard Harry on June 07, 2011, 10:49:13 PM
So anyone have any funny IPv6 stories?

Today I heard of someone trying to bring back their router a year and a half after they bought it because "They don't need it anymore since tommorow is IPv6 day."  ::face palm::

I heard of someone else that called their ISP asking if they could "pick their IPv6 address." He wanted his name;bob. I guess he heard someone the new IP would have letters in them, and he wanted to pick his first before it was taken. Just FYI, none of you out there take IP bob. He has dibs! ::double face palm::
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on June 08, 2011, 06:53:52 AM
Wow, welcome back Harry.  ;D
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: LookIntoMyEyees on June 11, 2011, 07:22:10 PM
Been busy playing games :) getting platinum are to fun.. 23 and counting. Infamous 2 rocks btw. Have a great weekend.

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Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: Hard Harry on June 12, 2011, 01:16:32 AM
Infamous 2 rocks btw. Have a great weekend.

Hmm, well playing the first Infamous and can't say I love it so far, but maybe I will warm up to it. Controls feels like Jet Set Radio but with magic lightening. Just feels weird and under powered. Only on the first level though, so I will give it time.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: LookIntoMyEyees on June 12, 2011, 10:27:56 AM
Remind me why you aren't in my PSN buddy list? Both games are a the same except infamous 2 got better graphics and I mean a huge improvement, but they are not addictive games they are ok exclusive, just wait for uncharted 3! uncharted 2 kicked ass... I platinumed infamous!! woot! Add me on PSN. You know my name.

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Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: kargo27 on June 14, 2011, 10:21:24 AM
I'm a traitor.  I bought a refurbed Linksys E4200. 

The only reason is that my beloved 4500 wireless can't penetrate 4 walls to our game room.  This one does.  Not great, but enough so that our desktops in that room don't lose signal anymore.

I don't notice any speed difference.  Actually, if anything, it seems a bit slower.  But I probably don't have it configured correctly.  Haven't checked around to see if there's a website that has a sticky like we have here.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: LookIntoMyEyees on June 14, 2011, 11:24:34 AM
The DGL 4500 section of the forums has one of the most interesting and informative information, That's why I always go there. Woot, Ps traitor. You know you will come back to that 4500 -_-. Anyways I heard that router is very good and fast, I want to try one out but I rather wait and see if there will ever be a new gen of 4500 until than I will wait till this one collapse.

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Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on June 14, 2011, 11:43:18 AM
One thing that I though of and a few others have done, turn off the wireless on the router and get your self a Wireless AP point that has better range. Some over in the 825 forum says he put on a 1watt AP and is getting a 1/4 mile acre in L.A. I grant you that some built in WiFi isn't the best, sometime and it also depends on the building and other external interferences. However the 4500 is a great router and maybe upgrading the WiFi to an AP that works better would make the difference.

Makes me think of the time when all my networking HW was stand alone...then all the built in routers came out. Itmight be a good thing again to implement that kind of thinking. Use stand alone HW and separate the devices out. I know I'm probably going to have to do that anyways with the new addition to the house were doing. I've got to start planning wired and wireless infrastructure soon.  ::)
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Post by: Hard Harry on June 15, 2011, 12:48:43 AM
Yea, thats the thing about the 4500, it's wireless antenna is a little long in the tooth. Not too much Dlink is going to do about that. They have stopped hardware revisions and firmware improvement on the DGL lineup. It can't keep up with the new MIMO N standards. I see it as a higher end consumer grade router. It has a decent chipset, a stable wireless antenna, and can handle heavy load very well. It also has some configuration options were are a plus. If you really want a Torrent machine though go Buffalo though with dd-wrt. If you want wireless coverage look into Hawkings. Those also have their cons too though. I like the 4500 because its a decent mixture of both. 
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Post by: FurryNutz on June 15, 2011, 06:56:36 AM
 ;) Ya, love the 4500, once i'm done playing with the 825, The 4500 will become the main router again. Going to spend some time next week and planning some network infrastructure for the new addition. Layout and placement. Can't wait to get it all going.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: kargo27 on June 15, 2011, 09:03:20 AM
Oh, so you wire a wireless AP point to the 4500?  Dang, I have a Netgear one, too.  I used it as a wireless N to my PS3 but have since wired it.

At some point I will like to try dd-wrt on the E4200 but as of now it's in the WIP stage.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on June 15, 2011, 09:56:20 AM
Ya man...I've got an Apple Extreme sitting off my router. Eventually it might be replaced with this:

http://www.premiertek.net/products/networking/PL-APN.html (http://www.premiertek.net/products/networking/PL-APN.html)

Will see. A guy in the 825 forum says it work great. Only 2.4Ghz however does a great job I guess.

Well, if you don't want your 4500 any more then maybe I can find it a better home.  LOL ;D
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: Hard Harry on June 15, 2011, 11:00:59 PM
Furry just wants to collect all the 4500 and solder them into one big super ultra mega router. It will be able to make internet on request, gathering it from the nether, no ISP required. LOL

J/k  <3's
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on June 15, 2011, 11:24:32 PM
I think you wanting the same thing Harry. LOL  :P
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Post by: LookIntoMyEyees on June 16, 2011, 03:33:28 PM
Hey! You guys! that ain't the way to do things, just buy a ps3, they only do everything.

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Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: Hard Harry on June 16, 2011, 10:27:14 PM
Including break records for largest data theft of ALL TIME. Thats pretty impressive. Don't get me wrong, I know its not all Sony's fault, and there has been some unfair press, but DAMN. If you going to fail, might as well aim big aye?
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on June 17, 2011, 10:06:58 AM
Time for crossing over to XBL. Hehe.
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Post by: LookIntoMyEyees on June 19, 2011, 07:40:10 PM
If I cross over I might trip during the process and die or I may not have enough money to feed my family anymore. But we must put our fanboyism aside and keep it out from these forums.. I love Nutz! who else?

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Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on June 19, 2011, 07:41:23 PM
Oh come one, there will be a helping hand to help you cross over.  ::)
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: Hard Harry on June 19, 2011, 11:36:01 PM
Take my hand and join him he says. HAH. I know that trick.

:::whhhhoooo....speeeerrrrr:::
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on June 20, 2011, 11:21:55 AM
Go into the light Harry.  :P
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Post by: LookIntoMyEyees on June 20, 2011, 11:57:20 AM
Haha! I finally get it, does this mean I am slow..... Well god dammit will their be candy in the process? No but seriously I will consider your helping hand in the near future, that's if we survive 2012.

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Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on June 20, 2011, 12:35:06 PM
I'll leave a candy trail for you lil fella.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: Hard Harry on June 20, 2011, 09:36:00 PM
If your afraid of 2012 because this world is going to hell in a hand basket, I totally agree, but I see the date 2025-2030 being more realistic. If your afraid of 2012 because of the Mayan prediction, I can't help but chuckle. I love how people that know nothing about the Mayan culture latched so quickly onto the date. Their entire theology is based on a cycle of beginnings. First that new beginning wasn't even 2012, and even if it was, it wouldn't mean the end of man kind, but a big change. And if that power held ANY substance, why wouldn't they have seen the huge change that happened to their very own people? You know..the whole slow inward genocide of their culture? Would have thought that would at least be a frowny face on their calendar. Heh.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: kargo27 on June 27, 2011, 05:51:10 PM
If your afraid of 2012 because this world is going to hell in a hand basket, I totally agree, but I see the date 2025-2030 being more realistic. If your afraid of 2012 because of the Mayan prediction, I can't help but chuckle. I love how people that know nothing about the Mayan culture latched so quickly onto the date. Their entire theology is based on a cycle of beginnings. First that new beginning wasn't even 2012, and even if it was, it wouldn't mean the end of man kind, but a big change. And if that power held ANY substance, why wouldn't they have seen the huge change that happened to their very own people? You know..the whole slow inward genocide of their culture? Would have thought that would at least be a frowny face on their calendar. Heh.

Well said, Harry!
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: zippoking on June 29, 2011, 11:56:20 AM
Why wouldn't you want to change over to a game console that has a hardware failure rate of 54%??

http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/101/1014486p1.html (http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/101/1014486p1.html)

OK I'll save you the time of making fun of a month and half of downtime on the network, but that just gave me more time to play computer games anyway...
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on June 29, 2011, 11:58:44 AM
Thats old news too...Whats the failure rate of the new slims ones?

Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: Hard Harry on July 09, 2011, 01:31:36 AM
Not really relevent enough to make a new topic, since I don't suspect the issue is on my side, but anyone here play Dead Nation for PS3? Having a diffacult time getting into a private game with my friend. We can play LBP1 together, no problem except a little lag, but trying to play a private game together in Dead Nation is hit or miss, with a failure rate of about 1/8. We have tried with and without voice chat enabled, and seem to have better success with it off, but that isn't the sole issue. The odd part is, 100% of the time we can connect, and its fine until one of us moves. We can each fire our weapons, do melee, etc, but if we move, instant disconnect.

Network

Me
SB6120 > DGL4500 > Wired to PS3.
All ports forwarded, static DNS, 15down, 5up. Have tried with UPnP enabled and disabled.

Her
SB5101 > DIR-655 > Wireless to PS3
All ports forward (they say, won't grant me remote to check), UPnP enabled, 6Mb down, 3Mb up.

I check my logs, nothing too alarming. The only error I see related to the PS3 is a blocked outgoing ICMP packet to my DNS. It can't be a DNS query, because that would be UDP I think. Also, I get the same error to my laptop, and no connectivity issues there. I think it might be a glitch with the game, maybe related to the global point system they use and the heavy traffic their probably getting now with it being a "welcome back" game. I welcome anyone thoughts or suggestions though.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: Hard Harry on July 09, 2011, 01:49:02 AM
Did more research, and looks like its a glitch after all. We can play the entire game fine...as long as we don't move the right thumb stick. LOL. Glad I didn't make a normal post. FYI though if anyone else has the game. Hopefully they patch it soon.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: LookIntoMyEyees on July 09, 2011, 12:02:43 PM
I used to D/c only when I played users outside the United state, I recently finished the whole game and got my platinum :) That was indeed a good game and fun to play with a co op buddy. Nice find I never knew that, But what I did do one time was pause the screen as soon as the game starts wait 15-20 sec and unpause and it should work, it might and might not. Worked for me one time.

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Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: Hard Harry on July 09, 2011, 10:18:35 PM
I used to D/c only when I played users outside the United state, I recently finished the whole game and got my platinum :) That was indeed a good game and fun to play with a co op buddy. Nice find I never knew that, But what I did do one time was pause the screen as soon as the game starts wait 15-20 sec and unpause and it should work, it might and might not. Worked for me one time.

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I read some where that sometimes works, but the amount of time you have to wait is inconstitent, and may be based on the level. Some people got it while loading the first level, other got it when loading any level, and other still sometimes also got it when going to the loading screen. The problem is I only know other other that plays it so I can't troubleshoot it. Any chance you could give me a hand LIME?
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: LookIntoMyEyees on July 09, 2011, 10:35:32 PM
Depends what will we be doing? do you have a Mic? You can send me a Friend request anytime, My Psn is in my sig. I will spare some time to lend my fellow friend a hand :)

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Chris
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: LookIntoMyEyees on July 13, 2011, 07:08:13 PM
Seriously am I the only one who finds this extremely funny?

(http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa64/chriz704/16.jpg)

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Chris
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Post by: FurryNutz on July 13, 2011, 07:09:22 PM
 :D
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Post by: LookIntoMyEyees on July 13, 2011, 07:13:04 PM
Okay, Okay, HAHAHAHHA I saw it like 7 min ago and I am still laughing :) Obama it only does getting the economy back up.

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Chris
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Post by: FurryNutz on July 13, 2011, 07:15:16 PM
IMO it probably would be like that if BUSH was still in office. But thats me.  :P
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: LookIntoMyEyees on July 13, 2011, 07:19:51 PM
You definitely understand the situation better than me, I probably find it funny while you may find it extremely bad. I am young so I have much to learn, honestly people complain that the economy is bad I still don't see it!  :o Prizes are high and stuff but I just don't know. Anyways LOL!!!!! love that cartoon.

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Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on July 13, 2011, 07:21:27 PM
 ;)
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: Hard Harry on July 15, 2011, 02:00:55 AM
The one thing I can easily say about the situation the economy is in is....it's complicated. Its not Obama, or Bush Jr, or even Clinton and Bush Sr,  hell, its not even just about US Politcal leadership. Not only is it global politics, but its global culture shifting. 3rd world countries are turning into 1st world superpowers and demanding the growth they require. But even beyond that, you have the environmental issues effecting the cost of grain and other imports and exports, not to mention the military events happening over the last 50 years and how they played a roll on the price of oil. And did I mention that much like the environment, the economy itself has peeks and valleys, that shift, accelerate and change with time.  All this and more plays a role, so it will take a lot of time, action, and plain luck, to get us out of this. The thing is, the majority of the public don't like to think about it that way. They like simple causality. Clinton= Economy good, Bush= Economy bad, and as much as I was not a fan of Bush, I know it's just not that simple. The public demands it, so the press delivers, and the ignorance supports itself. 
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: LookIntoMyEyees on July 15, 2011, 10:46:37 AM
I lack in this field, but this is my opinion, raise tax on the richer! Use that tax to create more jobs, more jobs more people spend and the more people spend the better the economy. If people lose their jobs than less people buy stuff, it spreads and people start saving money instead of spending. Companies go out of business because people are not buying goods thus more jobs are lost and a cycle begins. Why isn't anyone doing anything about this, we are in debit, the united state is in debt. This is all my opinion but look no further president lime "yes we can" oops no we can.....

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Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on July 15, 2011, 10:56:13 AM
I vote for President LIME.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: LookIntoMyEyees on July 16, 2011, 11:13:18 PM
Check out my new twitter redesign, what you guys think? Worked on it for about an hour.
Click Here for my twitter! (https://twitter.com/lookintomyeyees)

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Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: Hard Harry on July 17, 2011, 10:37:19 PM
"Twitter is over capacity.
Please wait a moment and try again. For more information, check out Twitter Status »"

LOLz. I am sure it would be awsome...if I could see it. Wow, you either need to be having a TON of traffic, or have pretty crappy servers for a almost text only site to be down. LOL
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on July 18, 2011, 06:58:36 AM
One reason why I don't Twitter, FB or Google!  ;D
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: LookIntoMyEyees on July 18, 2011, 09:25:41 AM
I edited the link a little bit, try it now guys. I currently use twitter and facebook, although I won't be giving FaceB out, its personal rather than an internet Identity :) I also jumped the Google + wagon, love it! Any one need an invite? Also I got Spotify! (https://www.spotify.com/us/hello-america/) and I must say, I would recommend to all music lovers. Very good.

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Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: LookIntoMyEyees on July 18, 2011, 08:29:07 PM
Hey, I need some input here, would be really appreciated. So my brothers computer has been having graphic problems, he can't play full screen videos, because they crash. Lines shows on the screen after he forces it, playing a game etc. I am going to recommend him a graphic card, but what if the problem is not his integrated graphic card? Monitor is good, cables are good. Advice? :)!!!!

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Chris
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: Hard Harry on July 19, 2011, 12:59:55 AM
Hey, I need some input here, would be really appreciated. So my brothers computer has been having graphic problems, he can't play full screen videos, because they crash. Lines shows on the screen after he forces it, playing a game etc. I am going to recommend him a graphic card, but what if the problem is not his integrated graphic card? Monitor is good, cables are good. Advice? :)!!!!

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Chris

First some data, then some tests, then I will give you my thoughts. For data:

Start > Run > type dxdiag

Click on "Save all Information", save it to your desktop. Then just copy/paste it into a PM to me, or a reply here. Feel free to read it first and remove any into you don't feel comfortable giving me, but mostly tech stuff.

Start > Run > type Pmon.exe(XP)
                          Perfmon.exe (Vista)                 
                          Perfmon /res (WIN7)

Click on the memory Tab. Tell me what you see for: Available/Cached/Total/Installed

Those two things will give me a general idea of what we are working with. Then I will suggest some tests.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: LookIntoMyEyees on July 20, 2011, 12:09:42 PM
Well hard harry made the pc feel new again, the new driver made this boy run good again. No crash no lines and best of all the colors pop more :) Who knew that the right driver would increase so much at once.. Never again will I trust windows automatic update to install my drivers, Never ever!

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Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on July 20, 2011, 12:25:23 PM
Good to hear man. I always go to the OEMs for HW drivers. I only use MS driver if there any any OEM drivers available. Glad it's working again for you.  ;)
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: kargo27 on July 23, 2011, 07:57:21 AM
Hey Dudes!   ;D
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Post by: LookIntoMyEyees on July 23, 2011, 12:59:21 PM
Hey, Kargo27

  You should get on more often, anyways its cool that your back. I guess I will see you around here more often :) Have a great day bro.

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Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: kargo27 on July 23, 2011, 01:09:10 PM
Hey, Kargo27

  You should get on more often, anyways its cool that your back. I guess I will see you around here more often :) Have a great day bro.

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Hey Chris!  I'll try to poke my head into the forum more often.  How are you today?
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: LookIntoMyEyees on July 23, 2011, 01:14:30 PM
Been good just got a lot of work to do, hopefully I can help a few people.

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Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: kargo27 on July 23, 2011, 03:26:51 PM
Been good just got a lot of work to do, hopefully I can help a few people.

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You always do!

This isn't our beloved 4500 but look at the deal on this 601..... http://cgi.ebay.com/D-link-DIR-601-Wireless-Router-/370528417452#shId (http://cgi.ebay.com/D-link-DIR-601-Wireless-Router-/370528417452#shId)
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: LookIntoMyEyees on July 23, 2011, 05:40:16 PM
You mean this deal? http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=D-link+DIR-601+&x=0&y=0 (http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=D-link+DIR-601+&x=0&y=0) I won't buy because I got a router, but for those that need one its not a bad deal. Also thank you for your compliment :)

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Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: Hard Harry on July 25, 2011, 02:09:38 PM
Hmm, I have a question for everyone. If you are wireless to one router, and hardwired to another, and they both have the same default gateway, and you type in 192.168.0.1, what dictates which gateway comes up?

Trying figure out how do remote configure 1 router while my friend is wireless to another. Because I want to help her upgrade her router, but have it pre-configured so there is less downtime. Its Teamviewer remote access, not remote access via the router. Ideas?
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on July 25, 2011, 02:29:46 PM
I think I tried this once and it never worked, I either had to use wireless or wired connection separately.
Maybe possible to set the 192.168.0.1 default IP address to something different, i.e. 1.1 or even change the entire 192 to maybe 10 or 172.#.#.#.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: Hard Harry on July 25, 2011, 09:41:55 PM
Yea, I think thats what I am going to have to do. I am going to have to walk her through changing the gateway of the router when hard wired to the router and wireless disabled. Then enable the wireless and let me remote in.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on July 26, 2011, 07:54:56 AM
Keep us posted.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: Hard Harry on July 28, 2011, 01:38:10 AM
Ok guys, can we put our foot down about these spammers? Someone just isn't trying. If they need help running security on their own site I can seriously get them in touch with the right people. It would be so easy to register to a spam list to weed through the IP's these spammers are registering from. Heck, some are registering with users in entire domains which have been black listed. Its a slap in the face to all the people who put effort into this forum when they don't. I seriously won't be turning the cheek too much longer.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: LookIntoMyEyees on July 28, 2011, 04:59:48 AM
Yea Hard Harry. First this site has been in beta for ever, no moderators are allowed... They need to create a forum for D link users to come discuss their issues with MODs helping along side, that's the main reason the site is not getting its high usage because its not a very nice forum.... TTyl its morning and I am not feeling that great....

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Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on July 28, 2011, 08:34:16 AM
The forum improvements is a sticky now. Any and all feedback is good.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: Hard Harry on July 29, 2011, 03:18:58 AM
No offense to the effort you put into that thread, and all the other effort you have put in, it's hard to take it seriously since not a single Mod has posted in it. Honestly, how much time does it take to make one post? I am going to try to call Dlink up and see how high up the chain I can get Saturday.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: Hard Harry on August 02, 2011, 01:00:24 AM
Two tips:

1. If you turn on certain features using the Style trick and then back up the configuration file, you can't use it to recover.

2. After taking a hour to write a post for these board, if you accidently hit F12+backspace instead of just backspace it delete the entire html body of the page, even from cache, and CTRL+Z does not bring it back. Thank you Chrome. ::face palm::

I have some very odd conclusions from my testing of gamefuel vs gaming rules challange. More to fallow when I get the heart to rewrite my entire post again. LOL
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on August 02, 2011, 08:13:25 AM
Why does everyone use Chrome in the first place.  :o

I know, to each his own.  ::)
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: LookIntoMyEyees on August 02, 2011, 12:04:14 PM
Chrome is the best browser ever created, I can switch from my laptop to the house desktop and my bookmarks and settings will all be sync, also everyone in the household can have a user account in chrome so we all won't be using one browser for all. I love you chrome.

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Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: Hard Harry on August 02, 2011, 10:11:26 PM
Why does everyone use Chrome in the first place.  :o

I know, to each his own.  ::)

Well up until the latest Firefox release, Chrome had the fastest script engine around. Plus it worked alot better with roaming profiles. Yes, it had sync, but firefox had that first. If you look at the new Firefox and MSIE...they look alot like Chrome though...hehe.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: kargo27 on August 03, 2011, 02:24:29 PM
What about Opera?  Poor, poor Opera.   :(
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on August 04, 2011, 06:11:37 PM
Opera has sessions and LOVE IT. it's my main browser.  :P
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: JavaLawyer on August 05, 2011, 08:25:50 AM
Let's not forget about Safari (although IMHO, the browser is forgettable).
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on August 05, 2011, 10:47:12 AM
Oh come one now...it was touted as the fastest browser out there.  ::)

I need to play with the new 5.1 version as see if it's any good. I still use Opera on my mac too.  ;D
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: JavaLawyer on August 05, 2011, 11:39:45 AM
Speed isn't everything.  ;D
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on August 05, 2011, 11:52:29 AM
Agreed man. Agreed.  ;)
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: LookIntoMyEyees on August 05, 2011, 11:53:47 AM
Only kids use OSX :) Anyways Opera is a very good browser loaded with tons of feature but in my opinion it feels like to much, I gave up on it a long time ago and was force to use Iexplorer until my dream finally came "Chrome".

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Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on August 05, 2011, 11:59:30 AM
Only real adults use OSX and Opera.  :P

Silly rabbit, Chrome is for kids.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: JavaLawyer on August 05, 2011, 12:02:58 PM
OSX and Chrome can't outfox (pardon the pun) Mozilla :)
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on August 05, 2011, 12:04:13 PM
 :D :D :D  Funny.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: LookIntoMyEyees on August 05, 2011, 12:36:41 PM
Mozilla is long gone from being anything good in fact is far from good :) IMO, also only non tech savvy adults use OSX :) Those who are looking for a maintenance free over priced pc :) Okay enough bashing the true is I once had a mac lolz. From now on I shall be know as a TROLL! master of trolls king of trollers. Hope you guys have a great weekend.

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Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: JavaLawyer on August 05, 2011, 01:23:51 PM
Firefox may have fallen from the lime light, but it's still a solid performer.  Unless the browser shows signs of falling way behind the feature and performance curves, there's no reason for me to change.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: Hard Harry on August 06, 2011, 12:54:31 AM
I use all three actually. MSIE for my work's OWA, because I don't have a choice. (Unless IT enables pop on the server, boooo). Chrome for dailey use, because its quick and light. And firefox when I need use of some of it's many add ons.  I mostly use it at home for Youtube, to kill those damn adds. At work though, Tabmix Plus and Colorful Tabs are a must for me.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on August 06, 2011, 08:03:18 AM
I sure miss good old NETSCAPE.   :'( They were years head.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: kargo27 on August 06, 2011, 12:17:52 PM
I use all three actually. MSIE for my work's OWA, because I don't have a choice. (Unless IT enables pop on the server, boooo). Chrome for dailey use, because its quick and light. And firefox when I need use of some of it's many add ons.  I mostly use it at home for Youtube, to kill those damn adds. At work though, Tabmix Plus and Colorful Tabs are a must for me.

Me too!
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on August 06, 2011, 01:16:58 PM
I use all too at work. Need flexibility I guess.  ::)
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: JavaLawyer on August 06, 2011, 07:05:04 PM
I sure miss good old NETSCAPE.   :'( They were years head.

Agreed. Netscape was way ahead of it's time in form and function. Too bad the browser couldn't get traction in the industry. AOL was too big to contend with, and IE had all the resources behind Microsoft. Netscape never had a chance.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: Hard Harry on August 06, 2011, 09:57:03 PM
Well Netscape did get beat by AOL, they merged with AOL. AOL was a simplified version of Netscape with a different render engine.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: JavaLawyer on August 07, 2011, 05:57:38 AM
Yes, but by the time that happened, Netscape lost their technological/innovative edge. AOL purchased Netscape to acquire their market share and integrated (or perhaps absorbed is more accurate) what was left into AOL's vision (or lack of vision) of what a browser should be.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on August 07, 2011, 07:35:25 AM
Was a mistake to let AOL buy them IMO. Netscape had alot of features back then that only was just included in some others didn't have until much later. I sure enjoyed when they brought tabbed browsing.  ;D  I do like Opera now. Can group my tabs into different goups, like all my Dlink tabs can be set together.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: JavaLawyer on August 07, 2011, 08:40:33 AM
There was one feature that I really liked in Netscape. The browser let you flag a website of interest and Netscape spidered through the website looking for updated pages, and downloaded them for offline viewing. That was a great feature back in the day when website updates were infrequent, unlike today when everything changes in real-time. I also believe Netscape also was one of the first browsers to offer the option to download an entire website and all child pages within the same domain.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on August 07, 2011, 08:44:09 AM
Ah good memories man. Was good times back then.  ::)
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: JavaLawyer on August 07, 2011, 08:52:08 AM
You said it. Today everything is commoditized. . . no special value.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on August 09, 2011, 08:32:16 AM
BTW...I'm home now.  ;D
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: JavaLawyer on August 09, 2011, 08:46:05 AM
BTW...I'm home now.  ;D

So. . . how do you become a "poweruser"? Is that based on your level or some privileges granted by a moderator?
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on August 09, 2011, 08:55:19 AM
 :o  I'm just special I guess.  :P
Title: Motorola SB 6120 or etc...
Post by: FurryNutz on August 09, 2011, 09:02:54 AM
Any one with a SB6120, got home yesterday and the modem was completely off. Roommate said he power cycled the power strip and moved the power adapter to a different strip with no luck. Meter checked the end of the plug and showed no 12v. This modem is only about 5-6months old. Gotta call Motorola and ask about it. Beware, made in China.  >:(

Lucky I had my trusty old radio shack universal power.  ;D

Update: I'll when I get home from work so they can get the serial # off the modem
Response Via Email(Motorola Technical Support) - 08/09/2011 04:09 PM
Valued Motorola Mobility Customer,

Thank you for contacting Motorola Mobility Technical Support.  I apologize for
the inconvenience you are having with your power adaptor for your SB6120. I am
happy to assist you with this.

You can use any universal power adapter as long as it is the 12 V, 750mA kind.
If you need a replacement you can call us at 1-877-466-8646 option 1 for
Hardware, then 1, cable modems.
Title: Re: Motorola SB 6120 or etc...
Post by: JavaLawyer on August 10, 2011, 04:46:05 AM
Thank you for contacting Motorola Mobility Technical Support.  I apologize for
the inconvenience you are having with your power adaptor for your SB6120. I am
happy to assist you with this.

You can use any universal power adapter as long as it is the 12 V, 750mA kind.
If you need a replacement you can call us at 1-877-466-8646 option 1 for
Hardware, then 1, cable modems.

If only D-Link RMAs were as easy :)

(Joking -- I've had a few D-Link RMAs over the years, and there are a number of hoops to jump through, but nothing insurmountable).
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: kargo27 on August 10, 2011, 06:10:17 AM
I don't think I've ever had a power adapter go bad except one for a notebook one time.  Glad it wasn't the modem!

Today is day 40 over 100 degrees for us in north Texas.  It looks like winter with all the dead grass everywhere.  We're due to break a heat record by Saturday, they said.

On another topic, I spent two hours chasing why my printer wouldn't print after a Windows update.  Reinstalled both printer software and wireless print server software.  Come to find out the "use printer offline" selection was checked.  DOH!!  ::)  I don't know how that happened, but I think I may have clicked on it when cancelling a print job.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: JavaLawyer on August 10, 2011, 06:52:38 AM
On another topic, I spent two hours chasing why my printer wouldn't print after a Windows update.  Reinstalled both printer software and wireless print server software.  Come to find out the "use printer offline" selection was checked.  DOH!!  ::)  I don't know how that happened, but I think I may have clicked on it when cancelling a print job.

That's not as bad as troubleshooting a "printer not available" message for an hour, only to remember that I previously setup the printer with a wireless connection to my network, and the one PC I couldn't print from only had a hardline network connection. It took me the better part of an hour to remember that small fact.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on August 10, 2011, 07:31:50 AM
That's not as bad as troubleshooting a "printer not available" message for an hour, only to realize that I previously setup the printer with a wireless connection to my network, and the one PC I couldn't print from only had a hardline network connection -- took me an hour to remember that small fact.

How many times you going to edit this? LOL
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: JavaLawyer on August 10, 2011, 07:33:03 AM
How many times you going to edit this? LOL

I'm a stickler for grammar. A compulsion of mine.
Title: Re: Motorola SB 6120 or etc...
Post by: FurryNutz on August 10, 2011, 07:34:54 AM
So I called Motorola, they took the cereal number and my info and are sending me a new power adapter via USPS, be here in 7 to 10 days.  :-\ Good thing I got back up. Over all it was a good CS experience. Hope everyone else's keeps going for longer then mine did.  ;) If not, just call and make sure you have the modem S# at the ready.


Any one with a SB6120, got home yesterday and the modem was completely off. Roommate said he power cycled the power strip and moved the power adapter to a different strip with no luck. Meter checked the end of the plug and showed no 12v. This modem is only about 5-6months old. Gotta call Motorola and ask about it. Beware, made in China.  >:(

Lucky I had my trusty old radio shack universal power.  ;D

Update: I'll when I get home from work so they can get the serial # off the modem
Response Via Email(Motorola Technical Support) - 08/09/2011 04:09 PM
Valued Motorola Mobility Customer,

Thank you for contacting Motorola Mobility Technical Support.  I apologize for
the inconvenience you are having with your power adaptor for your SB6120. I am
happy to assist you with this.

You can use any universal power adapter as long as it is the 12 V, 750mA kind.
If you need a replacement you can call us at 1-877-466-8646 option 1 for
Hardware, then 1, cable modems.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on August 10, 2011, 07:36:41 AM
Kewl, might use your talents later on.  ;D

I'm a stickler for grammar. A compulsion of mine.
Title: Re: Motorola SB 6120 or etc...
Post by: JavaLawyer on August 10, 2011, 07:37:37 AM
So I called Motorola, they took the cereal number. . .

Was the "cereal number" Cheerios or Lucky Charms? :) :) :)
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: JavaLawyer on August 10, 2011, 07:40:46 AM
Kewl, might use your talents later on.  ;D


Let's hope so. . .
Title: Re: Motorola SB 6120 or etc...
Post by: FurryNutz on August 10, 2011, 07:56:35 AM
Figured you might catch that. LOL, BOTH.  ;D

Was the "cereal number" Cheerios or Lucky Charms? :) :) :)
Title: Re: Motorola SB 6120 or etc...
Post by: JavaLawyer on August 10, 2011, 09:17:55 AM
Figured you might catch that. LOL, BOTH.  ;D


Well that's what the "Modify" button is for. ;D
Title: Re: Motorola SB 6120 or etc...
Post by: FurryNutz on August 10, 2011, 09:21:14 AM
I know, however the text as written was intended.  :P

Well that's what the "Modify" button is for. ;D
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: JavaLawyer on August 10, 2011, 11:27:51 AM
I recently RMA'd a defective DCS-932L, which was a rather painless process (considering). Ironically, the replacement product didn't work either, until I updated the unit with a WW firmware update I happened upon that's only available on the D-Link Taiwan site!!! D-Link technical phone support wasn't even aware of the update. I feel like I just completed a scavenger hunt. Where's my prize?
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on August 10, 2011, 11:39:54 AM
I agree, I feel that there is one hand that doesn't shake often enough with the other hand.  :-\
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: kargo27 on August 10, 2011, 12:40:25 PM
I think JL is going to fit in fine with us.   :)
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on August 10, 2011, 01:08:38 PM
More the merrier.  ::)
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: JavaLawyer on August 10, 2011, 01:13:43 PM
I think JL is going to fit in fine with us.   :)

I'm doing my best to fit in with the insanity. :)
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on August 10, 2011, 01:17:35 PM
Were all insane aren't we? Makes it more fun that way.  ::)

I'm doing my best to fit in with the insanity. :)
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: JavaLawyer on August 11, 2011, 08:28:49 AM
The DGL forum is much more lively than DNS, it's usually a ghost town over at DNS. I'm thinking of moving, how is the real estate market holding up over here?
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on August 11, 2011, 09:06:05 AM
I think it's pretty good...stable for now. Kinda quiet here too sometimes which can be a good thing. However we can spice it up on the OT post.  ;D
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: JavaLawyer on August 11, 2011, 09:10:06 AM
I've been weighing the pros and cons. DNS has plenty of storage (pun intended), but DGL has better broadband access, although I hear spam is an issue. :)
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on August 11, 2011, 09:37:42 AM
How many times you going to edit your post? LOL. Kidding.

DGL has spam issues? Care to elaborate on this question?
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: JavaLawyer on August 11, 2011, 09:42:46 AM
There seems to be lots of spam across all of these boards over the past couple of months.  It's cleaned up relatively quickly, but a pain nonetheless.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: kargo27 on August 11, 2011, 09:51:42 AM
There seems to be lots of spam across all of these boards over the past couple of months.  It's cleaned up relatively quickly, but a pain nonetheless.

Yes, very true.  We're kind of an abandoned board, no mods to monitor it well.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on August 11, 2011, 09:58:38 AM
Yes, very true.  We're kind of an abandoned board, no mods to monitor it well.

So is the DIR-657 forum.  ::)
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: JavaLawyer on August 11, 2011, 10:10:49 AM
The boards: "DCS-1100/1130", "Digital Video - Software", and "Digital Video - Hardware" seem to have been abandoned from the day of their inception. Not a single post from a D-Link representative. Aside from periodic spam removal, there's no sign of moderator activity.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on August 11, 2011, 10:17:44 AM
Ya, theres been some discussion and some external information that seems to point to priorities for the forum being re-arranged and thus the forum suffers from this. Been told that the forums are due for a change and possibly someone might be working on it. Can't say for sure. There are over due for an overhaul IMO. I have expressed concerns about this and other issues I see. Overall, I hope they or someone at DLink will understand that this is a great place to find help and I believe it helps them on CS expenses initially. Just need some corp. figure to realized that the forums are an asset to the company and lets keep it going and make it better. Of course, the bottom line is, money.  :-\

All we can do is be a squeaky wheel and see if we get the oil.  ;D
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: JavaLawyer on August 11, 2011, 10:27:22 AM
One hanging question I have is whether D-Link actively monitors the suggestions on many of these boards. In the past, D-Link actively communicated with users on the DNS-343 boards and user input impacted subsequent firmware updates (a few of my own were used). However the key moderator "D-Link Multimedia" left for new employment in mid June, and there hasn't been any moderator activity since. Other boards like the DCS-related boards have a fair amount of user activity, but we have no idea whether any of this material is read by D-Link.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on August 11, 2011, 10:39:50 AM
I believe they are monitored however not as much as in the past. I see one moderator that seems to visit one of the DNS forums once in a while. He was on Tuesday I think. I mainly see 2 others, an admin and a mod only when I submit for Spam or I email them about a possible Dlink issue that I feel they should review. Other than this, I believe they are doing other things and again, it's down to priorities, and the forum is probably at the bottom of the list. Hard to say though.  :-\
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: kargo27 on August 11, 2011, 10:47:18 AM
So is the DIR-657 forum.  ::)

LOL!  True, my friend, true.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: Hard Harry on August 11, 2011, 12:00:51 PM
If we wanted action we could start a campaign to call their support lines repeatedly. I called them last week for a method of contacting the people in charge of the board, and they said they would send me a email. Two weeks later...nothing. So now I am going to contact them by work email, to their corp office. See if they ignore that.  >:(
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: JavaLawyer on August 11, 2011, 12:40:39 PM
I'm just astounded by the disparity in post-consumer support when comparing D-Link to Netgear. The forum has more of a community feel to it. A number of long standing members were provided with pre-release hardware to test and report on, and the moderators (Netgear employees) spend quite a bit of time on the boards throughout the day.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on August 11, 2011, 12:42:07 PM
Sick'em Harry. Sick'em. Get'em.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: JavaLawyer on August 11, 2011, 02:15:11 PM
"Cry havoc and let slip the dogs of war"
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: JavaLawyer on August 15, 2011, 07:04:49 AM
. . . Another spam-a-thon on some of the other boards over the weekend. Angry
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on August 15, 2011, 07:15:00 AM
Ya I know...I reported it.  >:(
Title: Great deal on 23" HD monitor
Post by: kargo27 on August 15, 2011, 08:57:56 AM
Hey Guys,

Great deal on this monitor.  I think it's an HP.  I bought one for my kid to play XBOX on and it's been great!

http://moofi.woot.com/moofi/oppositeday

Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on August 15, 2011, 09:36:34 AM
Have HP logo or information on the model?
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: kargo27 on August 15, 2011, 09:39:57 AM
It's a re-branded HP so the logo won't be on there, but most if not all of the "Famous Maker" displays that Woot sells are HP.  At least, the one's I've seen.  I'll dig around some more.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: kargo27 on August 15, 2011, 09:41:38 AM
OK, here 'tis...........

http://h10010.www1.hp.com/wwpc/ca/en/ho/WF06b/382087-382087-3284302-215012-215012-3770740-4210057.html (http://h10010.www1.hp.com/wwpc/ca/en/ho/WF06b/382087-382087-3284302-215012-215012-3770740-4210057.html)
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on August 15, 2011, 09:45:03 AM
Not bad for a little over $100 bucks. Works pretty good huh?
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on August 15, 2011, 09:58:01 AM
Ok, I jumped for one, read HP and amazon reviews, all were very good. Couple said the glossy screen acted like a mirror.  :-\ Not bad. I think I'll put it on my Mac book.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on August 15, 2011, 10:10:41 AM
Odd that you can't go back an order another one...I should have waited for my buddy, now he wants one. SO be aware, if your going to get one of these, make sure you order the right quality before you finalize the order.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: Hard Harry on August 15, 2011, 10:43:57 AM
Anyone here happen to have a HTC Desire?
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on August 15, 2011, 10:53:35 AM
Oh boy:  :-X
http://techcrunch.com/2011/08/15/google-android-motorola/ (http://techcrunch.com/2011/08/15/google-android-motorola/)
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: JavaLawyer on August 15, 2011, 11:41:18 AM
Oh boy:  :-X
http://techcrunch.com/2011/08/15/google-android-motorola/ (http://techcrunch.com/2011/08/15/google-android-motorola/)

It's arguable whether the FTC let an acquisition of that size pass. Lots of unforeseeable consequences to consider.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on August 15, 2011, 12:10:02 PM
Ya think? LOL. Not a fan of google. I like Motorola the way they are.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: JavaLawyer on August 15, 2011, 12:36:41 PM
Ya think? LOL. Not a fan of google. I like Motorola the way they are.

IMHO it would be really bad if Motorola lost autonomy.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on August 15, 2011, 01:03:14 PM
Specially to Google.  :-\
Title: Re: Great deal on 23" HD monitor
Post by: FurryNutz on August 15, 2011, 02:16:07 PM
Hey, how long did it take for you to receive it once you ordered it?

Hey Guys,

Great deal on this monitor.  I think it's an HP.  I bought one for my kid to play XBOX on and it's been great!

http://moofi.woot.com/moofi/oppositeday


Title: Re: Great deal on 23" HD monitor
Post by: kargo27 on August 15, 2011, 03:03:49 PM
Hey, how long did it take for you to receive it once you ordered it?


I don't remember, bro.  It was about a year and a half ago.  Woot is weird.  Sometimes stuff comes in about a week, sometimes it takes 2 or 3, depending on who's selling.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on August 15, 2011, 03:09:05 PM
OK, will keep track of things. Not bad for 125 bucks though.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: Hard Harry on August 15, 2011, 06:57:48 PM
Ya think? LOL. Not a fan of google. I like Motorola the way they are.

Waaaaa? The services or their company practices? I can see the later..but I don't see how anyone can dislike what they offer.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: kargo27 on August 15, 2011, 08:32:39 PM
Not to nerd out a bit but Google reminds me of the Borg.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: LookIntoMyEyees on August 15, 2011, 10:21:03 PM
Hey guys whats up, I see you guys are handling these forums like pros, Many new users are coming in now that the DGL is very cheap. Since you guys are good at finding stuff, I would like to ask you for a favor. I am trying to get my hands on a turn table a small one I need it for green screen related projects. It would be very awesome if you guys could help out, as always thanks :)

--
Chris
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: JavaLawyer on August 16, 2011, 04:13:34 AM
D-link finally created independent boards for the different mainstream DCS models. The threads were going beyond confusion with all of the cross-discussion between products. Makes life a lot easier.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: mack_jigger on August 16, 2011, 04:18:34 AM
Well, someone needs a kick in the @ss for the "non-dealing with" the non-active moderators. Some haven't been active since 2008.

And the amount of spam posts is amazingly out of control.

I even called the 1-877 Tech support line the other day and the dude, I'm guessing from out of the N-Americas, had no clue WTF I was talking about when I said "the forum".

Amazing display of incompetence.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: JavaLawyer on August 16, 2011, 04:30:11 AM
Well, someone needs a kick in the @ss for the "non-dealing with" the non-active moderators. Some haven't been active since 2008.

And the amount of spam posts is amazingly out of control.

I even called the 1-877 Tech support line the other day and the dude, I'm guessing from out of the N-Americas, had no clue WTF I was talking about when I said "the forum".

Amazing display of incompetence.

From the mods I've interacted with over the last two years, I've gathered that the mods are also product engineers and working in this forum is far from their primary responsibility. Spam is handled, it just takes a little longer than it should.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: Hard Harry on August 16, 2011, 08:06:04 AM
Yea, if I had to guess, this forum may have started as employee only. And I think the support is outsourced. Maybe not outside the country, but a independent support company.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: JavaLawyer on August 16, 2011, 09:12:19 AM
D-Link is resource constrained when it comes to regular maintenance of this forum. Whenever large product deployments occur, the forum always takes a hit in terms of upkeep. The release of the Boxee Box last fall really slowed things down in the DNS boards.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on August 16, 2011, 09:33:36 AM
wonder if thats was going on here as of late? Not getting anything back from Mods.  :-\
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: JavaLawyer on August 16, 2011, 09:39:43 AM
When the Boxee Box rollout was in play, one of the mods told me that all of their resources were tied up on the deployment, and everything else, including the forum maintenance and  firmware updates for legacy products took a back seat.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: JavaLawyer on August 16, 2011, 09:47:08 AM
One of the mods created breakout boards for the DCS-930L and DCS-932L sometime during the night, so someone is paying attention. The DCS boards were (are?) a mess. . . all of the threads for the DCS series were rolled-up in 3 pseudo-related boards. No way to separate everything out.

Now that separate boards are up, looks like I'll have to answer all those questions over again. Roll Eyes
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on August 16, 2011, 09:52:06 AM
Oh boy...sounds like someones trying to consolidate and making things worse. Oy vay.  :-\
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: JavaLawyer on August 16, 2011, 10:00:07 AM
Don't think I was clear. . . (you made me self-conscious about modifying my posts on this particular thread!) Angry

Originally there were no product-specific DCS boards, so everyone was posting in boards that kinda-sorta made sense. The threads are scattered all over and disorganized. Now that there are new product-centric boards, posts will be more orderly and broken-out by product, but we lose all the knowledge from the original threads.

The older threads are there, but once the new boards pick up steam, the old threads won't be read anymore.

Ultimately this will be a BIG improvement
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on August 16, 2011, 10:33:45 AM
LOL. Your funny man.

Ok, well I hope that making the boards more "product-centric" will help out. I think they might be going for what the routers have been doing, each router has its own specific board. Does make it a bit harder to mange and keep track of sometimes.  ::)
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Post by: JavaLawyer on August 16, 2011, 10:43:41 AM
the NAS and media players are organized the same way as the routers. Makes sense conceptually, but yes, I find myself repeating information common to all products in each board.

The DCS series made no sense though. The DCS (i.e. camera) posts were scattered in "Digital Video - Hardware", "Digital Video - Software", and "DCS-1100/1130". And all three boards weren't even in the same parent directory. D-Link never made a home for those posts, so people just posted "where ever".

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Post by: FurryNutz on August 16, 2011, 10:46:29 AM
EEEWWA  :P
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Post by: FurryNutz on August 16, 2011, 11:30:57 AM
Wonder if this is why some mods aren't around as of late?
https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.10150397703208032.442795.6657493031 (https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.10150397703208032.442795.6657493031)

Got this from my OpenDNS news letter.
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Post by: Hard Harry on August 16, 2011, 12:05:54 PM
LOL. Well intoxicated modding is better then no modding right? Get em drunk, and get em here. Hehe
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Post by: JavaLawyer on August 16, 2011, 12:13:03 PM
D-Runk Forum
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Post by: FurryNutz on August 16, 2011, 12:43:57 PM
 ;D

I wish they would leave someone that doesn't get to go to those functions in charge or at least let some one know about us. here. Maybe one of us?  :o
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Post by: FurryNutz on August 16, 2011, 12:53:54 PM
If they left us, was just thinking, doesn't this remind you of the movie "Home Alone"? LOL.
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Post by: JavaLawyer on August 16, 2011, 12:55:33 PM
Staying true to the film, we must fend off the bad guy spammers!
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Post by: FurryNutz on August 16, 2011, 12:56:47 PM
"Give up? Or you thirsty for more?" LOL
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Post by: JavaLawyer on August 16, 2011, 01:02:16 PM
"Keep the change you filthy animal!" Angry

Bang Bang Bang Bang Bang...
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Post by: FurryNutz on August 16, 2011, 01:03:44 PM
Shaving...slap....AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHH
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Post by: JavaLawyer on August 16, 2011, 01:06:14 PM
I think this conversation went on a tangent somewhere, although I don't recall where it was going to start with.
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Post by: FurryNutz on August 16, 2011, 01:07:33 PM
Not supposed to as per the Subject I think. Maybe...possibly?
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Post by: JavaLawyer on August 16, 2011, 01:17:38 PM
Dunno, without big brother actively moderating this forum it's a free for all.
Hopefully they'll be home soon.
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Post by: FurryNutz on August 16, 2011, 03:58:17 PM
 ::)
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Post by: JavaLawyer on August 17, 2011, 10:03:15 AM
The forum website seems to be going up and down. . . not sure if it's global or local phenomenon.
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Post by: FurryNutz on August 17, 2011, 10:25:37 AM
Ya it went down. Sent message off. Someone must have seen it.  ::)
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Post by: JavaLawyer on August 17, 2011, 11:38:09 AM
I guess someone forgot to pay the electric bill.
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Post by: FurryNutz on August 17, 2011, 11:50:47 AM
Opps...I was getting lonely though.  :(
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Post by: JavaLawyer on August 17, 2011, 07:28:19 PM
Boards were very quiet today. . . Lazy day or due to outage?
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Post by: FurryNutz on August 18, 2011, 06:50:41 AM
Probably just lazy...  ::)
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Post by: JavaLawyer on August 18, 2011, 11:18:39 AM
Read today that HP is prepping to sell their PC business.
Never cared for HP myself.
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Post by: FurryNutz on August 18, 2011, 11:32:36 AM
Really, thats interesting. Never thought it was a good idea for them to acquire Compaq in the first place.
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Post by: JavaLawyer on August 18, 2011, 11:48:59 AM
If the PC acquisition works out, that could leave HP as a software company.
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Post by: FurryNutz on August 18, 2011, 12:05:19 PM
Software of what?  ???
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Post by: Hard Harry on August 18, 2011, 12:06:53 PM
Software of what?  ???

Yea, and Google might be selling Motorola. This was after Cisco buying Scientific Atlanta. Alot of things changing last few years. Oh, and ATT is buying T-mobile? Crazy
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Post by: JavaLawyer on August 18, 2011, 12:17:22 PM
Software of what?  ???

HP is a major provider of enterprise-wide software in the federal space and Fortune 500s. They provide call center software (ticket management) and other related IT management software. They also have a large software/IT consulting arm that I've partnered with on several engagements a number of years ago.
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Post by: JavaLawyer on August 18, 2011, 12:23:22 PM
Yea, and Google might be selling Motorola. This was after Cisco buying Scientific Atlanta. Alot of things changing last few years. Oh, and ATT is buying T-mobile? Crazy

No way will the fed allow Google acquire Motorola. That would give Google too much of an advantage in the mobile space.
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Post by: FurryNutz on August 18, 2011, 12:28:29 PM
HP still has there Enterprise and Printer divisions as well.  ;D
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Post by: JavaLawyer on August 18, 2011, 12:53:09 PM
HP still has there Enterprise and Printer divisions as well.  ;D

My disdain for their printers is the primary reason I dislike HP. So many horror stories... Sad Angry
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Post by: FurryNutz on August 18, 2011, 01:27:38 PM
Wow, Never had any issues with there printers...I don't care for the injet line. LaserJet is is great.
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Post by: JavaLawyer on August 18, 2011, 01:41:40 PM
I switched to Canon and I'm never looking back. Grin
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Post by: FurryNutz on August 18, 2011, 01:44:10 PM
You do know that Canon makes engines for HP printers right?
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Post by: JavaLawyer on August 18, 2011, 01:48:34 PM
You do know that Canon makes engines for HP printers right?

You just killed the mystique for me! (thanks!) Sad
I know. My issues relate to shoddy firmware, compatibility issues, and a clunky UI.
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Post by: FurryNutz on August 18, 2011, 01:50:50 PM
Just curious, what model of HP printer was it that you had this supposedly bad experience with?  ???
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Post by: JavaLawyer on August 18, 2011, 01:58:46 PM
I believe it was the HP OfficeJet 7210 All-in-One.

EDIT:  I just checked the release date on Google, the model I had was the 6210.
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Post by: FurryNutz on August 18, 2011, 02:42:53 PM
Well as long as your having a good experience with what you have now, all that matters.
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Post by: JavaLawyer on August 18, 2011, 02:55:37 PM
I'm pleased with Canon, but came close to having an "Office Space" moment with the HP printer.
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Post by: kargo27 on August 18, 2011, 06:22:22 PM
I've been lucky and had good service with my HP printers.  Of course, I home office and whereas used to use it to print work stuff every day, I switched to a $50 Samsung laser.

The HP I use to send/receive faxes and occasionally scan something.  But inkjet ink is so pricey nowadays, so that's why I bought the Samsung.
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Post by: Hard Harry on August 18, 2011, 10:10:44 PM
I'm pleased with Canon, but came close to having an "Office Space" moment with the HP printer.

I actually DID have a office space moment with my old HP printer. It would take SOOOOO long to print. The issue is I wouldn't print often, so when it would start to print..it would allign..then clean, then allign again..then prepare to print, then confirm preparation, etc. I onced timed it, 17min to print 1 page. So one day, I had to rush home from the DMV to print a copy of a bill, and I just lost it. Hit the top of it with my fist and shattered the scanning screen. Stupid I know, but you know the DMV can make even a sane person crazy. But it wasn't just that, I had issues with HP Updater eating up 99% CPU..not to mention that when you uninstall, the fast majority of the HP content stays. I once scan and found over 6000 registry keys the uninstaller did not remove, and over 2GB of storage space. Yea, I will never use a HP printer again.
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Post by: LookIntoMyEyees on August 19, 2011, 12:04:32 AM
Hp gives a lot of crap, I always clean install my windows. I don't need none of their junk :) Currently I am happy I got a network printer, all I do is plug it to the DGL and I open add printer and type in its IP and I am all set. Best way to do it IMO, also you can type in the printers address in the browser and control it via there pretty cool stuff.

--
Chris
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Post by: FurryNutz on August 19, 2011, 06:54:46 AM
 ::) wow, such hard experiences with HP. Hmm. Guess I'm lucky then.  ;D
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Post by: Hard Harry on August 19, 2011, 12:04:08 PM
Hp gives a lot of ****, I always clean install my windows. I don't need none of their junk :) Currently I am happy I got a network printer, all I do is plug it to the DGL and I open add printer and type in its IP and I am all set. Best way to do it IMO, also you can type in the printers address in the browser and control it via there pretty cool stuff.

--
Chris

I agree. Sometimes its not that easy. I found Windows 7 is alot better with adding printers automatically. On a XP machine though..it gets tricky. You have to do a manual IP install, then adjust the ports manually, and install a driver. And even then trying to get the scanner part to work was down near impossible.
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Post by: FurryNutz on August 19, 2011, 12:13:51 PM
I guess it helps to have some insider knowledge.  ;D
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Post by: Hard Harry on August 19, 2011, 10:00:55 PM
LOL. Yea, I thought so.
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Post by: kargo27 on August 20, 2011, 07:36:16 AM
ETA: ****Nevermind, Ping back up to 19****

Guys, what is your MTU set at?  I have Charter cable and was looking on the DSL forum where there's a tweaking/optimizing thread that gave instructions on how to find your optimum MTU.

I read somewhere else that cable should be set to 1500, however, when I run speedtest I get a 15-20 something ms ping when it's at 1500 but 5ms when I set MTU to 1472.

Am I doing this right?  Download/upload speeds seem to be a bit better with 1472 MTU but it's also early in the morning and on a weekend so internet usage is at a minimum right now.  I have the 12/1 speed plan.

Here are the instructions I followed: http://www.dslreports.com/faq/5793 (http://www.dslreports.com/faq/5793)

(http://www.speedtest.net/result/1441918963.png)
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Post by: Hard Harry on August 20, 2011, 10:28:20 AM
Who were you pinging? Thats some high jitter, 5-20ms.
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Post by: FurryNutz on August 20, 2011, 11:07:08 AM
What!!!  ::)

LOL. Yea, I thought so.
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Post by: kargo27 on August 20, 2011, 02:21:47 PM
Who were you pinging? Thats some high jitter, 5-20ms.

Is it really?  I pinged this: www.dslreports.com

I'm open to suggestions, btw.  :)
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Post by: Hard Harry on August 20, 2011, 03:16:00 PM
Oh, I thought you were pinging your gateway, nevermind.  These are the IP's I usually ping in order from closest to furthest to isolate a issue:

127.0.0.1
192.168.0.1
192.168.100.1
Default gateway (found on the DGL-4500 Status page)
8.8.8.8
Google.com

You should get under 20ms all the way up to 8.8.8.8, which is going to depend where you live.  Also, don't just do a normal ping, make it at-least 25 packets

Ping -n 25 <IP or domain>
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Post by: kargo27 on August 20, 2011, 07:52:31 PM
Oh, I thought you were pinging your gateway, nevermind.  These are the IP's I usually ping in order from closest to furthest to isolate a issue:

127.0.0.1
192.168.0.1
192.168.100.1
Default gateway (found on the DGL-4500 Status page)
8.8.8.8
Google.com

You should get under 20ms all the way up to 8.8.8.8, which is going to depend where you live.  Also, don't just do a normal ping, make it at-least 25 packets

Ping -n 25 <IP or domain>

Hmmmm, what if I don't get <20ms?  I'm not getting that and does cable internet make a difference?  I'm getting about 30 something.  :(

Also, did I read that we set our wireless adapter's MTU or is it just the router?  I'm really confused now.

I did some more digging around and found an MTU tool.  I used it to set my desktop at 1500 MTU and look what it gave me:

(http://www.pingtest.net/result/45611617.png) (http://www.pingtest.net)
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Post by: Hard Harry on August 21, 2011, 05:09:12 AM
Ahh so your jitter is fine. Cool. Looks like a good connection. Any issues?
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Post by: kargo27 on August 21, 2011, 07:08:58 AM
Ahh so your jitter is fine. Cool. Looks like a good connection. Any issues?

Ahh, cool.  Nope, no issues that I can see, just trying to optimize.   ;D
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Post by: kargo27 on August 22, 2011, 05:30:11 AM
Have any of you guys changed out the wifi card in a laptop?  I have a lower end Lenovo that uses a Broadcom G band but was wondering if it was possible to install a G/N band one?

I would like to try it more for tinkerings sake not that I'm having any issues with the setup now.
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Post by: Hard Harry on August 22, 2011, 06:26:38 AM
I haven't no, but I know those that have. You probably want to look up the laptops maintenance manual. It will go over everything from cleaning out the heat sink, to changing the wireless card. What is your laptop's model number?
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Post by: FurryNutz on August 22, 2011, 06:57:19 AM
I have a couple of times, there not that hard. Just need to find a car that fits and has drivers.
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Post by: kargo27 on August 22, 2011, 12:00:14 PM
Edit, found one and ordered it.
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Post by: FurryNutz on August 22, 2011, 01:14:20 PM
Kewl. They are most like memory sticks, same kind of slot configuration. Just have to make sure it will support it and has the drivers. Easy PnP installation.  ;)
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Post by: kargo27 on August 22, 2011, 02:06:31 PM
Nice!  It doesn't come with drivers but I found some on the Intel website.  One is 8mb and the other is 40mb.

If that doesn't work Intel also has driver update utility and I'll go wired to it then run it.  I'm all ready for it now!

I found both the mini PCI card and the 3 internal antennas for under $20 total, shipped.  If it doesn't work, no big loss, I'll just resell them on ebay, I guess.
Title: Re: Great deal on 23" HD monitor
Post by: FurryNutz on August 22, 2011, 02:10:06 PM
Hey to let you know I order 2 of these monitors last week and they arrived Sat. Both in outstanding new refurbished condition and work wonderful. Funny out they covered up the HP logo in back and replaced the HP sticker in front. Oh well, nice monitor for $125 shipped.

Thank you Karl, YOU ARE THE MAN!!!


 :-*

I don't remember, bro.  It was about a year and a half ago.  Woot is weird.  Sometimes stuff comes in about a week, sometimes it takes 2 or 3, depending on who's selling.
Title: Re: Great deal on 23" HD monitor
Post by: Hard Harry on August 22, 2011, 03:17:28 PM
Hey to let you know I order 2 of these monitors last week and they arrived Sat. Both in outstanding new refurbished condition and work wonderful. Funny out they covered up the HP logo in back and replaced the HP sticker in front. Oh well, nice monitor for $125 shipped.

Thank you Karl, YOU ARE THE MAN!!!


 :-*


Be on the look out for more deals. In about a month I think the market is going to be flooded with HP gear that retailers are selling to 3rd parties because they pulled it from their shelves since it no longer offers support.
Title: Re: Great deal on 23" HD monitor
Post by: kargo27 on August 22, 2011, 04:54:29 PM
Hey to let you know I order 2 of these monitors last week and they arrived Sat. Both in outstanding new refurbished condition and work wonderful. Funny out they covered up the HP logo in back and replaced the HP sticker in front. Oh well, nice monitor for $125 shipped.

Thank you Karl, YOU ARE THE MAN!!!


 :-*


I wouldn't steer you wrong, Rob!  I have one set up for my son to game on.  It's been a great monitor.

BTW, I couldn't resist and bought another of the 4500's from that TigerDirect/CompUSA deal I posted earlier.  It's too good a deal for a new router.   :P

Harry, do tell.  What's up with HP and support?
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Post by: FurryNutz on August 22, 2011, 04:59:26 PM
I know, I'm almost temped to get another just for on hand stock LOL. Still have 2 LOL. Might hand off the 657 to a buddy of mine who needs a better router for his boxee.
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Post by: Hard Harry on August 22, 2011, 05:08:05 PM
I know how you guess feel. I bought a DPC3010 modem just for kicks. Trying to figure out how to get access to the logs
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Post by: FurryNutz on August 22, 2011, 05:09:51 PM
Im going to get one tomorrow if they still have some..ya, 88 bucks for a new 4500. Can't turn it down.
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Post by: kargo27 on August 22, 2011, 05:10:15 PM
I couldn't blame you if you did (pass the 657 on).

I just realized that I think we only have 1 wireless client that uses 5GHz.  My wife's notebook and it uses both bands.  Everything else is 2.4GHz.
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Post by: FurryNutz on August 22, 2011, 05:21:16 PM
I'm going to test out my boxee on both bands and see how well it works. Did pretty good yesterday on box playing MW2. Still not impressed with having to reboot the router after every change.  :-\
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Post by: kargo27 on August 22, 2011, 05:56:14 PM
It ran well for me but just not on par with the 4500 or the E4200.  I never had to reboot.   :-\

On another note, I have a wireless N USB ($10) from Airlink and with my 4500 it connects at 135mbps but with my E4200 it only connects at 72mbps.  Why do you suppose?  Both are stable but why is the E4200 about half of what the 4500 connects?
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Post by: kargo27 on August 22, 2011, 06:20:12 PM
I know how you guess feel. I bought a DPC3010 modem just for kicks. Trying to figure out how to get access to the logs

Harry,  I would do something like that.  Right now, I have 3 different routers that I swap out every so often.  A Linksys E2000 I picked up for $37 shipped, my 4500 of course, and a Linksys E4200 I got from the Cisco/Linksys Homestore refurbed.  They're all great.  I definitely have backup in case one goes out!
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Post by: FurryNutz on August 22, 2011, 06:58:09 PM
It ran well for me but just not on par with the 4500 or the E4200.  I never had to reboot.   :-\

On another note, I have a wireless N USB ($10) from Airlink and with my 4500 it connects at 135mbps but with my E4200 it only connects at 72mbps.  Why do you suppose?  Both are stable but why is the E4200 about half of what the 4500 connects?

Maybe something in the configuration possible? Odd that it works on the 4500 and not the e4200.  :-\
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: kargo27 on August 22, 2011, 08:07:14 PM
Maybe something in the configuration possible? Odd that it works on the 4500 and not the e4200.  :-\

It's a 150mbps adapter, and both times I was 10 feet from the routers and with an unobstructed view.  Who knows.  I wouldn't know what to look for in the configuration to fix it, LOL!
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Post by: kargo27 on August 22, 2011, 08:39:10 PM
Where's Harry, LIME and JavaLawyer?  Out at the bar?
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Post by: Hard Harry on August 22, 2011, 08:42:54 PM
Well Harry is sick in bed mostly. Only reason I am posting her is because I think I have addiction. LOL.
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Post by: JavaLawyer on August 23, 2011, 04:14:23 AM
Where's Harry, LIME and JavaLawyer?  Out at the bar?

Took a long weekend. Now back to the grind. . .
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: kargo27 on August 23, 2011, 05:46:05 AM
Hope you feel better, Harry!  If it's a cold, I swear by Zicam or the generic equivalent.  It works for me every time but better if you catch it on onset.  Still, it will reduce the duration if you take it as directed.

Java, were you on a mini vacation?
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Post by: JavaLawyer on August 23, 2011, 05:54:30 AM
A vacation of sorts. . .
Now, back to reality (although calling this forum "reality" is an oxymoron)
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: JavaLawyer on August 23, 2011, 06:23:00 AM
D-Link has to remove the user account "mfuzoria". This guy is incrementally posting spam on every child board on this forum. The first attack from the account occurred earlier this summer, now a another attack as I write this post.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on August 23, 2011, 07:34:45 AM
Hope you get to feeling better Harry, now that we have you around, we'll keep you busy, hehe.

Ya, sorry about the spammers, trying to figure out whats going on. No word yet.  :-\
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: JavaLawyer on August 23, 2011, 07:35:38 AM
Furry - When you hit "5000" Posts the odometer rolls back to "0 Posts", and "Level 1". :)
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on August 23, 2011, 07:59:03 AM
Ya know just becuz I burst your bubble about HP and Canon printers doesn't mean you have to retaliate.  :P

Furry - When you hit "5000" Posts the odometer rolls back to "0 Posts", and "Level 1". :)
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: JavaLawyer on August 23, 2011, 01:04:03 PM
I think your just mad cuz you didn't roll yours over before I will. LOL.  ;D

Ya know just becuz I burst your bubble about HP and Canon printers doesn't mean you have to retaliate.  :P


Keep posting, you'll see. :P
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: JavaLawyer on August 23, 2011, 01:31:22 PM
???

You're last post in is an edit within my last post. Is this a forum error or you wielding your "Superuser" powers?
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on August 23, 2011, 01:40:52 PM
I can neither confirm or deny.  ::)

???

You're last post in is an edit within my last post. Is this a forum error or you wielding your "Superuser" powers?
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: JavaLawyer on August 23, 2011, 02:05:31 PM
I can neither confirm or deny.  ::)


With great power comes great responsibility.
You're scare tactics aren't going to work.  :o
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on August 23, 2011, 02:40:21 PM
Your reverse psychology won't work either SIR!!!  :P

 
With great power comes great responsibility.
You're scare tactics aren't going to work.  :o
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: kargo27 on August 23, 2011, 05:42:16 PM
A vacation of sorts. . .
Now, back to reality (although calling this forum "reality" is an oxymoron)


LOL!
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: kargo27 on August 23, 2011, 05:43:52 PM
Keep posting, Furry, I want to see your odometer roll over.  You only have 9 to go!
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: JavaLawyer on August 24, 2011, 05:06:41 AM
There's no telling what will happen at "5000". Will his stats cycle back to "0" (aka year 2000 bug)? Will the forum crash? This could be the end of everything as we know it.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on August 24, 2011, 06:58:29 AM
Hmmmm....
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: JavaLawyer on August 24, 2011, 06:59:38 AM
Well. . . . That was anticlimactic.
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Post by: FurryNutz on August 24, 2011, 07:08:25 AM
Were all still here.  :-\
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Post by: JavaLawyer on August 24, 2011, 07:11:32 AM
Congratulations on 5000, but it looks like you were cheated out of Level 16. ???
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Post by: kargo27 on August 24, 2011, 10:49:54 AM
Congratulations on 5000, but it looks like you were cheated out of Level 16. ???

This.

File a complaint to management!
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Post by: FurryNutz on August 24, 2011, 11:10:20 AM
Maybe it take longer to level up as you gain levels.  :-\
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Post by: JavaLawyer on August 24, 2011, 11:54:20 AM
I believe the levels are distributed something like this:

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Post by: FurryNutz on August 24, 2011, 12:18:00 PM
Level 15+: 1000 points apart  ???
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Post by: kargo27 on August 24, 2011, 07:44:03 PM
About 2 years ago when we had DSL, I bought a Netgear DGDN3300 integrated modem/router.  Well, it's been sitting in my parts bin gathering dust so I thought I'd sell it.   :-\
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Post by: Hard Harry on August 24, 2011, 10:07:35 PM
Dude, your DM totally robbed you. You have enough EXP for next level. LOL. Just be careful, past 20th you have to retire your character.
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Post by: JavaLawyer on August 25, 2011, 04:19:01 AM
Dude, your DM totally robbed you. You have enough EXP for next level. LOL. Just be careful, past 20th you have to retire your character.

Retire at Level 20? He's in the prime of his life, and you're already talking about retirement? With the advances and strides we've been making in forum technology, I would think FurryNutz's avatar has a good chance a living a fruitful and productive life well past Level 30.
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Post by: kargo27 on August 25, 2011, 05:51:58 AM
LOL

What's a "PowerUser"?
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Post by: FurryNutz on August 25, 2011, 06:53:36 AM
PowerUser is someone who needs batteries. ;D

I'm thinking of retiring, Handing off the torch to all you fine educated young whipper snappers. Then again, what in world would you people do with out me?  ::)
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on August 25, 2011, 06:55:03 AM
I think anything past 20, I should become the DM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 ;D
Retire at Level 20? He's in the prime of his life, and you're already talking about retirement? With the advances and strides we've been making in forum technology, I would think FurryNutz's avatar has a good chance a living a fruitful and productive life well past Level 30.
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Post by: JavaLawyer on August 25, 2011, 07:05:50 AM
I had some time to kill. . .

  Level      Tot     Adv  
Level 01  0000 [+025]
Level 02  0025 [+075]
Level 03  0100 [+250] <- Is this correct?
Level 04  0350 [+150] <- Is this correct?
Level 05  0500 [+250]
Level 06  0750 [+250]
Level 07  1000 [+250]
Level 08  1250 [+250]
Level 09  1500 [+500]
Level 10  2000 [+500]
Level 11  2500 [+500]
Level 12  3000 [+500]
Level 13  3500 [+500]
Level 14  4000 [+500]
Level 15  4500 [+500]
Level 16  ??     [+750? +1000?]
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on August 25, 2011, 07:26:37 AM
You used Excel didn't you? hehe.
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Post by: JavaLawyer on August 25, 2011, 07:39:50 AM
You used Excel didn't you? hehe.

What's "Excel", a caffeinated sports drink? :)
Unless my algebra is off, I found an inconsistency in the summary table that I couldn't reconcile between L3 and L4. ???
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on August 25, 2011, 07:55:14 AM
Well, maybe you can fix that "inconsistency" when you become DM?  ;D
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: Hard Harry on August 25, 2011, 11:58:22 AM
Hehe, Oo Calc FTW?

There is the possibility it caps at 15. I tried looking through the SMF site, but couldn't find mention of it. On a related note, maybe pass this page on to the mods? (http://custom.simplemachines.org/mods/). They even have a Halo Mod. LOL

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Post by: JavaLawyer on August 25, 2011, 02:07:10 PM
Hehe, Oo Calc FTW?

There is the possibility it caps at 15. I tried looking through the SMF site, but couldn't find mention of it. On a related note, maybe pass this page on to the mods? (http://custom.simplemachines.org/mods/). They even have a Halo Mod. LOL


I took a look at the Simple Machines site and am inclined to believe there is not a hard stop at 15. There functional specifications for v1.x state the ability to add member groups and set the number of posts to advance. I didn't get the impression (although not stated explicitly) that there are limits. The admin defined settings may also explain the odd progression from L3 to L4.

We've got to believe!
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: Hard Harry on August 26, 2011, 06:35:18 AM
Anyone else get a message they were banned when they tried to log in last night?
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: JavaLawyer on August 26, 2011, 06:39:15 AM
Anyone else get a message they were banned when they tried to log in last night?


Not personally, but another member said his account was banned. A moderator subsequently fixed the user's account. Didn't realize this issue spanned beyond a single incident.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: Hard Harry on August 26, 2011, 07:02:17 AM
Yea, I had a friend try who had a account and hasn't even posted yet, and she got the message she was banned too. Probably something to do with page's security, so I'm happy it happened. Means they are adding some...security that is. :-)
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: JavaLawyer on August 26, 2011, 07:10:16 AM
Agreed, anything that curtails the spam we've been pummeled with is a good thing. Although I'd probably trip if that happened to me.
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Post by: kargo27 on August 26, 2011, 10:25:52 AM
Good deal!  I hope it keeps the spammers out.
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Post by: JavaLawyer on August 28, 2011, 07:38:32 PM
Another global spam attack on Sunday evening. So much for spammer countermeasures. >:(
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Post by: FurryNutz on August 28, 2011, 09:09:12 PM
 ::)
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Post by: LookIntoMyEyees on August 29, 2011, 04:43:33 PM
The more security the better, but we do need a new site layout and finally get rid of the beta tag. Although the site layout is not bad but its not all that great either.

--
Chris
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on August 29, 2011, 05:03:05 PM
WOW, Let there be LIME. He has returned.
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Post by: Victim on August 29, 2011, 05:12:34 PM
 ::) Hi Gents
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Post by: FurryNutz on August 29, 2011, 10:41:38 PM
 ;D
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: JavaLawyer on August 30, 2011, 04:27:36 AM
The more security the better, but we do need a new site layout and finally get rid of the beta tag. Although the site layout is not bad but its not all that great either.

--
Chris

Agreed. The look-and-feel is very dated. Shouldn't be that much heavy lifting to install a new theme.
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Post by: LookIntoMyEyees on August 30, 2011, 07:07:43 AM
They should just pay me to run their forum servers :) wouldn't take much work and I would perform a better experience than this but at least they are trying. I could say that I missed these forums and had to come back (Furry,harry,Kargo) :) been busy etc got a lot of work and college starting soon Dams!. But nonetheless I am hype!

--
Chris
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: JavaLawyer on August 30, 2011, 07:26:12 AM
You mentioned removing the "beta" from "D-Link Forum Beta". Was this a "beta" version of the forum or was the name selected because "beta code" is linked off the forum? I always assumed the latter.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on August 30, 2011, 07:35:00 AM
I think regardless of the term used, seems kind of mis-leading. My thinking was that the forum was new at the time thus a reason they might have use the term for it. I think the forum is fairly new, like 2006-7?
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: LookIntoMyEyees on August 30, 2011, 07:41:27 AM
They are not new by now they just set it up and left...

--
Chris
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: JavaLawyer on August 30, 2011, 08:03:32 AM
I think regardless of the term used, seems kind of mis-leading. My thinking was that the forum was new at the time thus a reason they might have use the term for it. I think the forum is fairly new, like 2006-7?


The earliest entry listed on the bottom of the "D-Link Forums - Statistics Center" is Aug 25, 2006.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on August 30, 2011, 08:14:24 AM
Still fairly new by todays standards. Yes I agree, it needs a new face lift.  ;D
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Post by: JavaLawyer on August 30, 2011, 08:18:54 AM
Still fairly new by todays standards. Yes I agree, it needs a new face lift.  ;D

Use your super powers to upgrade the site. . . or do you have to be at Level 16 to do that? :)
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Post by: LookIntoMyEyees on August 30, 2011, 08:27:11 AM
LOL FurryNutz be having connections with the mods :)
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Post by: FurryNutz on August 30, 2011, 09:40:44 AM
Need ADMIN level for that. LOL  :o

LOL FurryNutz be having connections with the mods :)
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: kargo27 on August 30, 2011, 03:56:14 PM
Good management would entail appointing regular, trusted forum users like you guys.  It's not difficult.  I don't see why they don't step up to the plate.

I ran or was forum staff to several different boards.

I still run a scooter board on Yahoo (let the laughter ensue!)   ;D
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: kargo27 on August 30, 2011, 04:02:14 PM
I bought another router....DIR-601 and am configuring it.  Not a bad little refurb.  With shipping, about $21.00.

It has no Gamefuel of course but does have QoS.  Any suggestions on configuration?  Anything else I need to do for XBL and PSN?
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: JavaLawyer on August 31, 2011, 05:16:49 AM
Is this for real: http://www.maximumpc.com/article/news/transcend_shoehorns_2tb_storage_capacity_usb_30_thumbstick (http://www.maximumpc.com/article/news/transcend_shoehorns_2tb_storage_capacity_usb_30_thumbstick)

:o
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Post by: kargo27 on August 31, 2011, 05:50:23 AM
Is this for real: http://www.maximumpc.com/article/news/transcend_shoehorns_2tb_storage_capacity_usb_30_thumbstick (http://www.maximumpc.com/article/news/transcend_shoehorns_2tb_storage_capacity_usb_30_thumbstick)

:o

Wow!  I'll bet it will retail for $250 or more.  Cool stuff!
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Post by: JavaLawyer on August 31, 2011, 11:27:51 AM
Level 8 and still no superpowers. :(
Do I have to get bit by a spider or exposed to radiation? ???
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Post by: FurryNutz on August 31, 2011, 11:48:47 AM
You only get super power at level 15  :P
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Post by: JavaLawyer on August 31, 2011, 11:53:58 AM
In that case I'll have to be the villain. >:( >:(
Whatever happened to the "Karma" indicators the forum used to have? Reminded me of Fable.
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Post by: FurryNutz on August 31, 2011, 12:45:27 PM
They took them off couple of years back. I think people were abusing them.  ::)
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: Victim on August 31, 2011, 07:05:35 PM
>.< im so frustrated @ god damn internet hogging websites like youtube / netflix.

I can't f***ing play any game because my god damn roommate does nothing but watch youtube / netflix -.-
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Post by: kargo27 on August 31, 2011, 07:17:04 PM
>.< im so frustrated @ god damn internet hogging websites like youtube / netflix.

I can't ****ing play any game because my god damn roommate does nothing but watch youtube / netflix -.-

Are you lagging because of it or is he/she hogging the TV?
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Post by: Victim on August 31, 2011, 07:46:29 PM
i have my own stuff, he is just hogging the bandwidth..
>.<
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Post by: kargo27 on August 31, 2011, 08:07:59 PM
i have my own stuff, he is just hogging the bandwidth..
>.<

Ahhh, yeah, that does suck. 
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Post by: JavaLawyer on September 01, 2011, 04:24:50 AM
>.< im so frustrated @ god damn internet hogging websites like youtube / netflix.

I can't ****ing play any game because my god damn roommate does nothing but watch youtube / netflix -.-

Go into the your router and block YouTube and Netflix. May give you a few days reprieve before he figures out what's happening.
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Post by: kargo27 on September 01, 2011, 05:17:18 AM
Go into the your router and block YouTube and Netflix. May give you a few days reprieve before he figures out what's happening.

LOL!!!
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Post by: FurryNutz on September 01, 2011, 07:15:33 AM
Wow, busy aren't we?  ;D
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Post by: JavaLawyer on September 01, 2011, 07:27:08 AM
Wow, busy aren't we?  ;D

Just providing some solid advice... ;D
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Post by: FurryNutz on September 01, 2011, 07:38:54 AM
And DON'T STOP.  ;D
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Post by: kargo27 on September 01, 2011, 12:51:10 PM
I realized that I have backup routers but not a backup modem.  All this talk of the SB6120 or whatever made me bite the bullet and order one.

I currently am using a Charter UBEE U10C035.  I'll keep it as a backup.
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Post by: FurryNutz on September 01, 2011, 01:38:45 PM
Yep just in case..and be aware of the SB6120's power supply. Mine went out in about 6 months. I had a universal PS handy though.  ;D
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Post by: Hard Harry on September 01, 2011, 11:22:53 PM
Ooooooh YEAAAAAA!!!! ::Burst in through a wall::

Guess who is back after a week of no internet? ::cheer::

FRAK YOU IRENE!!

God it's good to be back online.

Carry on. :-)
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Post by: JavaLawyer on September 02, 2011, 04:53:38 AM
Ooooooh YEAAAAAA!!!! ::Burst in through a wall::

Guess who is back after a week of no internet? ::cheer::

FRAK YOU IRENE!!

God it's good to be back online.

Carry on. :-)

LOL. What state are you in?. . . I guess I lucked out, Irene passed though NYC with not so much as a light flicker. A hurricane and earthquake all within 2 weeks, what's next? 
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: kargo27 on September 02, 2011, 06:19:35 AM
Yep just in case..and be aware of the SB6120's power supply. Mine went out in about 6 months. I had a universal PS handy though.  ;D

Good to know, thanks, Robert!
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: kargo27 on September 02, 2011, 06:21:59 AM
Glad you two are ok (Harry and Java).  I didn't know you guys were on the east coast.

Furry's in ID, I'm in TX, Java's in NYC, Harry what state are you in?  For some reason I thought you were in Nevada or Arizona. 
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Post by: FurryNutz on September 02, 2011, 07:11:08 AM
Glad your ok Harry.  We missed you.  ;D
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Post by: JavaLawyer on September 02, 2011, 07:54:51 AM
Glad your ok Harry.  We missed you.  ;D

Hey, what about me? I was also in the path of the storm?  Geez!

Glad you two are ok (Harry and Java).

Thanks Kargo :)
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Post by: FurryNutz on September 02, 2011, 08:01:14 AM
Oh sorry I forgot about you too...We missed you to Coffee Atty.  :-*
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Post by: Hard Harry on September 02, 2011, 10:00:25 AM
I live in Rhode Island. Smallest state, but almost all coastline. How do you think that went for us? LOL I think the last count was 3-4000 downed or damaged lines by fallen trees? Thats not something you fix over night. And lets just say it has been INSANE at work. Jolt and stackers can only get you so far.(whats coffee?) Hehe.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on September 02, 2011, 10:21:30 AM
Sounds like someone was just missing his internet connection.  :P
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Post by: kargo27 on September 05, 2011, 07:29:33 PM
Happy Labor Day, Dudes!

Odd, none of the smiley's are showing up for me today.  Are they showing up for you guys?

All I see is that pic of a page with 3 different colored shapes in it.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: Hard Harry on September 05, 2011, 07:39:58 PM
Same here. Tried with 3 browsers.

PC: Windows 7 Pro 64bit
Chrome 13.0.782.220: Can see the emoticons but can't use the Change color, or HTML function. (Ofcourse can manually do it but whats the fun in that?)

Firefox 6.0.1: Can't see the emoticons and can't use the HTML selectors

MSIE 9.0.8: Not only no emoticons like firefox, but where the emoticons are are these odd stretched out boxes. Also HTML editing doesn't work.

This isn't a complaint though. It means they are doing SOMEthing. Just knowing someone is out there is good enough to have me be very patient as they work on it.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: JavaLawyer on September 06, 2011, 06:03:22 AM
Odd, none of the smiley's are showing up for me today.  Are they showing up for you guys?

Same here. Shwew! For a moment I thought I was becoming clinically depressed.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on September 06, 2011, 07:09:11 AM
Poor Java, your not alone man, were all clinically depressed.

I get some icons and missing or text field icons in Opera 11.51.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: JavaLawyer on September 06, 2011, 11:55:59 AM
PC: Windows 7 Pro 64bit
Chrome 13.0.782.220: Can see the emoticons but can't use the Change color, or HTML function. (Ofcourse can manually do it but whats the fun in that?)

Firefox 6.0.1: Can't see the emoticons and can't use the HTML selectors

MSIE 9.0.8: Not only no emoticons like firefox, but where the emoticons are are these odd stretched out boxes. Also HTML editing doesn't work.

This isn't a complaint though. It means they are doing SOMEthing. Just knowing someone is out there is good enough to have me be very patient as they work on it.


One of the environments I work in has a tight firewall with partially crippled Internet access. . . for a while I thought the IT department was somehow tightening their grip even further. Wasn't until I noticed the same broken functionality on an open signal (and from reading these posts) that I figured out that something else was up.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: kargo27 on September 06, 2011, 07:57:22 PM
Maybe they turned off the emoticons to save money. 
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: Hard Harry on September 06, 2011, 10:27:01 PM
Well I think they turned off grammar in some of the forums. Not sure how much money it saves. Heh

I just think they probably updated their SMF version that this board runs on. It was 1.1.11 before. Update probably broke some of the customization they made to the standard Post template.
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Post by: JavaLawyer on September 07, 2011, 05:51:06 AM
Wow. . . Seagate announced the release of a 4TB HDD: Seagate Raises HDD Capacity Bar (http://www.maximumpc.com/article/news/seagate_raises_hdd_capacity_bar_4tb_goflex_desk)
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: kargo27 on September 07, 2011, 06:06:56 AM
Well I think they turned off grammar in some of the forums. Not sure how much money it saves. Heh

I just think they probably updated their SMF version that this board runs on. It was 1.1.11 before. Update probably broke some of the customization they made to the standard Post template.

LOL, I was kidding, bro.  I had a feeling that someone might take me seriously because I couldn't use a smiley.  :(
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: JavaLawyer on September 07, 2011, 06:12:42 AM
No joke, emoticons don't come cheap. The going rate for smileys alone is $0.02 per instance. That can add up real fast. :) :) :) :) :)
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on September 07, 2011, 06:56:48 AM
It would be nice to REALLY get a FULL 4TB after formatting.  ::)

Wow. . . Seagate announced the release of a 4TB HDD: Seagate Raises HDD Capacity Bar (http://www.maximumpc.com/article/news/seagate_raises_hdd_capacity_bar_4tb_goflex_desk)
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: JavaLawyer on September 07, 2011, 07:00:45 AM
It would be nice to REALLY get a FULL 4TB after formatting.  ::)


The HDD is only available in an external enclosure. I'm curious if the (alleged?) capacity and addressing add additional complexities and dependencies preventing mounting as an internal HDD in an AFD supported NAS or PC. I can't find any mention of a bare bones HDD on their website.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on September 07, 2011, 07:04:36 AM
Ya soon as I saw it I figured, RAID?  ::) My first 2TB USB drive was 2 1's RAIDED. Works for backup.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: JavaLawyer on September 07, 2011, 07:22:44 AM
Ya soon as I saw it I figured, RAID?  ::) My first 2TB USB drive was 2 1's RAIDED. Works for backup.

The article reads as a true 4TB HDD, but there's no mention of platter density or anything of that nature, which leaves me questioning what this "device" truly is.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on September 07, 2011, 07:34:17 AM
Exactly...  ::)
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: JavaLawyer on September 07, 2011, 09:45:21 AM
Here's our answer (kind of?):

"Seagate Technology has introduced the world's first hard disk drive (HDD) with 4TB capacity. The new FreeAgent GoFlex Desk drive, which is available directly from the company, is based on a 3.5" HDD with four 1TB platters.

"Seagate's latest 3.5" platters have areal density of 625Gb/s per square inch, which means that the company can fit 1TB of data onto just one platter and thus make relatively inexpensive 2TB and 3TB hard drives as well as to create HDDs with 4TB and eventually 5TB capacities, if needed for competitive reasons."
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: kargo27 on September 07, 2011, 10:28:23 AM
I can't even fill up a 100 GB drive.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: JavaLawyer on September 07, 2011, 10:37:20 AM
I can't even fill up a 100 GB drive.

You're not trying hard enough. ;)
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on September 07, 2011, 11:28:40 AM
I can't even fill up a 100 GB drive.

NOOB.

I'm will trying to fill up my 1Tb drive, hehe.  ::)
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: kargo27 on September 07, 2011, 04:35:09 PM
I'm very conservative with my data.  :P

What do you call it when a cable modem has to take time to synchronize or whatever with the ISP?
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on September 07, 2011, 07:08:23 PM
handshake?
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: kargo27 on September 07, 2011, 08:05:49 PM
OK, handshake!  I guess that's what I'm looking for.  LOL

I did an online provision through Charter on this new-to-me SB6120 but wireless download speeds aren't very good.  I'm getting about 3-5mbps when I usually get 12-20mbps.

Is there a restart sequence?  I have the modem connected to my Ooma Telo which then goes into my DGL-4500.  With my old Ubee modem, I get speeds where they needed to be.  I wonder if I should call Charter?

(http://www.speedtest.net/result/1471797011.png) (http://www.speedtest.net)

Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: Hard Harry on September 08, 2011, 12:06:35 AM
You don't want to go Modem>Ooma>Router. Then your bottlenecking your entire network at the whim of what ever traffic managment Ooma decides to make. You want to go Modem>Router>Ooma.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: kargo27 on September 08, 2011, 06:25:04 AM
You don't want to go Modem>Ooma>Router. Then your bottlenecking your entire network at the whim of what ever traffic managment Ooma decides to make. You want to go Modem>Router>Ooma.

Ahhh, ok, thanks Harry.

Speed seems much better this morning, I think there was just a lot of traffic congestion.

EDIT: UPDATE:  Harry, you effing ROCK, brother!  That was my speed issue!  Odd that it didn't do that with that Ubee modem.  All is good in the world.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: XS on September 08, 2011, 07:34:59 AM
Hey guys, is there a sub forum that discusses structured wiring such as installs, CAT5E termination etc?  Or maybe another good forum?
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on September 08, 2011, 08:01:08 AM
Such a NOOB.  :P

Ahhh, ok, thanks Harry.

Speed seems much better this morning, I think there was just a lot of traffic congestion.

EDIT: UPDATE:  Harry, you effing ROCK, brother!  That was my speed issue!  Odd that it didn't do that with that Ubee modem.  All is good in the world.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on September 08, 2011, 08:02:25 AM
THere isn't to my knowledge however we could start one I suppose. I have done some installations. You could start a new thread too..


Hey guys, is there a sub forum that discusses structured wiring such as installs, CAT5E termination etc?  Or maybe another good forum?
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: JavaLawyer on September 08, 2011, 09:25:03 AM
THere isn't to my knowledge however we could start one I suppose. I have done some installations. You could start a new thread too..


Crimp crimp crimp. I've had my unfair share of structured wiring.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on September 08, 2011, 09:27:07 AM
WAAAH  :P
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: JavaLawyer on September 08, 2011, 10:07:01 AM
In case you missed it (not that this was terribly exciting), when I hit "1337" posts I encountered an Easter egg. The D-Link forum translated the "1337" to "leet" (i.e. elite) in my profile and board postings. Same way the emoticons are translated.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: XS on September 08, 2011, 12:08:13 PM
THere isn't to my knowledge however we could start one I suppose. I have done some installations. You could start a new thread too..



Okay I posted it, hopefully it is understandable.  I diagram would have made it easier to understand!
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: kargo27 on September 08, 2011, 06:28:51 PM
Such a NOOB.  :P


Hey, not so fast, potato boy!  :P  The Ooma instructions said it could be wired either way....after the modem or after the router.  Initially, it worked fine in between the modem and router, I swear!  :D
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: kargo27 on September 08, 2011, 06:34:35 PM
In case you missed it (not that this was terribly exciting), when I hit "1337" posts I encountered an Easter egg. The D-Link forum translated the "1337" to "leet" (i.e. elite) in my profile and board postings. Same way the emoticons are translated.


Very cool!  I wonder if they have other Easter Eggs like that.

Have any of you seen the Gears Of War 2 one with the toaster?  Funny!
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: JavaLawyer on September 09, 2011, 05:01:13 AM
I should have taken a screenshot to share.  Will have to wait for one of you to catch up with the post count. :P
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: kargo27 on September 09, 2011, 06:13:31 AM
OK, handshake!  I guess that's what I'm looking for.  LOL

I did an online provision through Charter on this new-to-me SB6120 but wireless download speeds aren't very good.  I'm getting about 3-5mbps when I usually get 12-20mbps.

Is there a restart sequence?  I have the modem connected to my Ooma Telo which then goes into my DGL-4500.  With my old Ubee modem, I get speeds where they needed to be.  I wonder if I should call Charter?

(http://www.speedtest.net/result/1471797011.png) (http://www.speedtest.net)



Look at the difference I get this morning but oddly it chose a Ft. Worth server:

(http://www.speedtest.net/result/1474193927.png) (http://www.speedtest.net)

And a: couple others:

(http://www.speedtest.net/result/1474204892.png) (http://www.speedtest.net)

(http://www.speedtest.net/result/1474206560.png) (http://www.speedtest.net)
Title: Remembering 9/11
Post by: kargo27 on September 11, 2011, 10:09:50 AM
I'm watching all the memorial services and mention of the day.

Then it occurred to me.  Are we giving the terrorists more credence by making a big deal of this?  I thought of it this way:  A bully beats you up in grade school.  Then every year you mention how the bully beat you up and keep bringing it to memory.  It's like the bringing of attention to it and making a big deal out of it is just what the bully wants.

Of course I respect the memory of the deceased.  It was a horrific act and all terrorists are cowards to take innocent lives.  It's to that end that I don't want them to gloat in the glory of their act.  I know that you can't honor the fallen without recalling the terrorists.

Maybe it's the French/German in me but I want the terrorists to be quietly hunted down and killed like dogs.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on September 11, 2011, 11:29:43 AM
What bothers me the most is that we let it happen and could have been prevented. Hide sight is sooooo 20/20.
Anyways, we got Bin Ladin.  I was happy for that. I do agree, It's happened, we recovered. I'm sick of the media coverage...Lets move on. No need to keep talking about it. Let's not let it happen again!

OK now, so hows those routers doing? Good I hope. Have a good weekend everyone.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: Hard Harry on September 11, 2011, 11:42:47 AM
For the respect of the fallen, I will keep my specific opinion on this for another day.

What I will say is memorial services are one thing, the 24/7 press coverage is something else. I know a few people who lost family or friends in the attack. They tell me they hate watching the coverage. Very few people who lost a loved one likes to see the act of that loved one killed (the planes hitting the towers) over and over and over. I don't see that as "paying them respect". I see that as the rest of us entertaining our natural, but morbid curiosity of death. I see it as the Press getting ratings. I see it as a reason to sell more yellow ribbon bumper stickers. But I guess that is how our nation handles situations out of the norm. They simplify them, and departmentalize them into issues their small minds can grasp. Good guys win, bad guys go to jail, and in the end, England Prevails!
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: JavaLawyer on September 11, 2011, 07:52:00 PM
Same as every year on this day, NYC was more quiet than usual. Car and pedestrian traffic were well below normal and not much going on except the WTC memorial services down in the financial district.

Now. . . back to business. Bring on the tech issues!
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: Hard Harry on September 11, 2011, 10:47:16 PM
Its been a hard couple of weeks for the internet. First a Hurricane put 2+million people in the dark for several days on the NE coast. Then a huge power outage took out most of Southern CA (2.5million). And today, a main backbone died in Kansas, taking out 1+million people. Netflix, MSN, XBL, Yahoo, PSN...all with serious issues across the country at different spots.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on September 12, 2011, 06:59:55 AM
What was the cause of Kansas going dow? Any info?
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: kargo27 on September 12, 2011, 08:22:22 AM
What was the cause of Kansas going dow? Any info?

A tornado maybe?  It's what got Dorothy and Toto.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on September 12, 2011, 08:37:23 AM
Wow, Kansas back done was Dorthy and toto? wow.  :o
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: JavaLawyer on September 12, 2011, 09:23:48 AM
Wow, Kansas back done was Dorthy and toto? wow.  :o

With all those tornados, does the Wizard rely on wireless 4G?
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: kargo27 on September 12, 2011, 02:03:39 PM
With all those tornados, does the Wizard rely on wireless 4G?

LOL!
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: Hard Harry on September 12, 2011, 09:15:14 PM
I was thinking of "maybe" getting a 360. With all the different versions, whats the best? Are the 360 slims better then the Elites? Can you add a after market harddrive onto the 4GB 360slim versions? Which version is the most dependable?
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on September 12, 2011, 10:13:29 PM
I think the slims have built in HDDs unlike the 1st gen 360 that you can upgrade. The slims can only do 2.4Ghz max. You can get a 5Ghz WiFi adapter for the 1st gen. Not sure if it would work on the slims. I've had 2 1st gens and each lasted about a 2 years avg before the RRoD came along. I think thats been taken care of with the slims. Only a solder job I guess fixes most of the RRoD issues. I have a budy with 2 slims, does ok. Just not flexible in the upgrade department as the 1st gens. I still have 2 1st gens and working well. Pays to keep them as cool as possible.

Wow, You mean we might get to play with the mighty Harry after all? Wow.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: Hard Harry on September 13, 2011, 02:57:02 AM
Mighty? Not so much. I cant compete with the newest generation of players and their twitch reflexes. Give me a hour or two on a level though and I have excellent spatial awareness which makes me pretty deadly with a plasma grenade. Also, I could hold my own at the sniper spot on River in GOW2.

Anyway, I am more concerned about hardware. I am going to be running my PS3, 360, and TV of a 4 port switch connected by about a 7-10foot CAT6 to my 4500. And even if I needed wireless, I could just get a ethernet wireless adapter. The Trendnet one I got for my friend is working great. Here are my questions:

1. Besides the hard drive, and the differnent casing, are there any differences between Xbox 360 Slim 4GB and the Xbox 360 Slim 250GB? (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Productcompare.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=100008270&IsNodeId=1&bop=And&ActiveSearchResult=True&CompareItemList=688|68-105-041^68-105-041-S01%2C68-105-042^68-105-042-TS)

2. Can I buy and upgrade the HD on the Xbox 360 Slim 4GB? Where is a 4GB kept? ::edit:: Looks like not easily. Risk of ban and 3rd party doesn't work with all games? 130$ for a 250GB drive when I can get 500GB wd5000bpkt for 70$ on newegg? What a rip off.

3. Is there any models on the horizon which may be better hardware wise? Like a Xbox 360 Slim Elite?

4. Are there different hardware versions based on manufacture date of the 360 Slims? Or are they all still the same at this point?
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: kargo27 on September 13, 2011, 05:55:37 AM
Mighty? Not so much. I cant compete with the newest generation of players and their twitch reflexes. Give me a hour or two on a level though and I have excellent spatial awareness which makes me pretty deadly with a plasma grenade. Also, I could hold my own at the sniper spot on River in GOW2.

Anyway, I am more concerned about hardware. I am going to be running my PS3, 360, and TV of a 4 port switch connected by about a 7-10foot CAT6 to my 4500. And even if I needed wireless, I could just get a ethernet wireless adapter. The Trendnet one I got for my friend is working great. Here are my questions:

1. Besides the hard drive, and the differnent casing, are there any differences between Xbox 360 Slim 4GB and the Xbox 360 Slim 250GB? (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Productcompare.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=100008270&IsNodeId=1&bop=And&ActiveSearchResult=True&CompareItemList=688|68-105-041^68-105-041-S01%2C68-105-042^68-105-042-TS)

2. Can I buy and upgrade the HD on the Xbox 360 Slim 4GB? Where is a 4GB kept? ::edit:: Looks like not easily. Risk of ban and 3rd party doesn't work with all games? 130$ for a 250GB drive when I can get 500GB wd5000bpkt for 70$ on newegg? What a rip off.

3. Is there any models on the horizon which may be better hardware wise? Like a Xbox 360 Slim Elite?

4. Are there different hardware versions based on manufacture date of the 360 Slims? Or are they all still the same at this point?

Yea, Harry!!!  Do it!

Furry is right on with his older XBOX assessment.  I had a 2008 model XBOX which was the Arcade version....no HDD, that my wife got for me for XMAS.  I added the 120GB HDD and this.... http://www.google.com/products/catalog?ds=pr&pq=intercooler+ts&hl=en&sugexp=gsis,i18n%3Dtrue&cp=20&gs_id=y&xhr=t&q=nyko+intercooler+ts+xbox+360&qe=aW50ZXJjb29sZXIgdHMgeGJveCA&qesig=cTe8kgRQL1fnERyr6Ej17A&pkc=AFgZ2tm3CFH9ek7cZq_8Ut-Wouyxdbj6eKebsMnfGU2vc3CVjv8lTmLjLieZpTFHXTRvZanD4FKL4twsJAWFarRBtACdORJX3A&nord=1&gs_upl=&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.&ion=1&biw=1366&bih=653&um=1&ie=UTF-8&tbm=shop&cid=4051614441185416797&sa=X&ei=rFBvTvDJBKaFsgLmt6C5CQ&sqi=2&ved=0CFkQ8wIwAA

I played hundreds of hours on it and never RROD it.  It was noisy with the fans running.  Then, when the Slim came out last summer, Gamestop had an awesome trade in deal going so I traded it in on the Slim with the 250GB HDD.

I recently got my son the refurbished 4GB Slim but got the 250GB HDD from here...... http://www.amazon.com/250G-Hard-Disk-Drive-Microsoft/dp/B004GX4864/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1315918192&sr=8-1

They say you can't play original XBOX games and save them on it, but we don't own any original ones.

So, I basically got a 250GB slim for the price of a new basic version.  His plays the same as mine, there's no difference.  Plus, I got the full factory warranty from MicroSoft on it.  If buying a refurb, check the fine print for warranty info.  His refurb was $150 shipped, IIRC.

On top of that here's an incredible bundle on XBOX LIVE subscription, keypad and headset..... ah damn......sold out....... http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16874103230

I'm still nervous about the overheating issue even though they've revamped the Slim.  So I got us a couple of these intercoolers...... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AKzq4sZRtlc
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on September 13, 2011, 06:58:28 AM
Not sure about the slims however I remember in the 1st gens, the arcade version didn't have HDMI. The Elites did. Not sure if the slims did the same thing or not. I went for "all Ieen" and got the elites. And if you think you can upgrade the HDD on the xbox by just buying any old hdd from newegg to put in side the HDD housing, think again!!! It's possible however your limited by the 250Gb size. The rest of your 500Gb drive will be useless.
If your really want to get one, why not check out craigslist, ebay or amazon and go used. Might find you a great deal on a good unit.

After researching the HDD upgrade information, I concluded that with the games I play, 120Gb was perfect for me. I put all of the games on the HDD I play and still have 70Gb left I think. And not that I have other resources for putting things on servers and playing on boxee, xbox is mainly a gamer and some netflix streaming now. Do you really need 250Gb? If your just going to play games here and there, then think of your cost that you want to incur before making the jump. Think about how much you'll be playing and what games you'll be playing.

I played in the living room last nite which is wired to a switch in the living room then runs down the hallway and into my office where the network HW is located. Wired distance is about 20-25 feet. Enjoyed every bit of it accept playing with the cheaters. LOL.

You'll be fine man. Just breath.
Impending MW3, BF3 and HALO 1 Redux is it for me.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: JavaLawyer on September 13, 2011, 11:57:27 AM
Not much activity in the forum today. . .
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on September 13, 2011, 12:15:42 PM
Ya been slow this week so far.  ;)
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: JavaLawyer on September 13, 2011, 12:21:19 PM
There was a small flurry of activity last Friday when D-Link released new beta firmware for the DNS-320 and DNS-325, but other than the usual post-release commentary, it's been pretty quiet.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on September 13, 2011, 12:27:25 PM
I saw that. Been fairly quiet today and yesterday  on the router side, aside from Kargo and Harry making some racket here and there.  ::)
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: JavaLawyer on September 13, 2011, 12:43:01 PM
I've been thinking of purchasing the Boxee Box. This would be a substantial move for me as I've been sticking with Netgear media players for the past several years.

Does anyone here own the Boxee Box? My main concern is understanding how the device deals with tags and cover art for video files. Netgear stores tags in an external tag file with embedded cover art for each video file. Although I can extract the tag data/cover art for each file, I expect the migration will be a real PITA.

Example:

Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on September 13, 2011, 12:48:49 PM
I have a boxee box however not sure about the tag issue. I mainly watch netflix and watch blu ray files off my file server. I notice that you can download information regarding the movie and cover art if you search for it. It doesn't do it automatically. At least that I know of. I do like it though. Nice little toy for listening to music or video.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: JavaLawyer on September 13, 2011, 12:54:33 PM
Correct, the Boxee Box can search for a matching title and will insert metadata and cover art from public sources. I'm looking to use my preexisting cover art, but am willing to let the device find the title descriptions, genre, etc. Just not sure how/where the metadata is stored and if there are options (i.e. PC app) for manual editing.

Netgear provides two options: storing the metadata in an external file or saving the metadata in the header of the video file (similar to mp3 tags). The device then saves a master library file permitting quick indexing/searching of the entire media library (video and audio).
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on September 13, 2011, 01:59:06 PM
Might ask someone over on the boxee forum...lots of activity over there.  ::)
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: JavaLawyer on September 13, 2011, 02:11:03 PM
I'm sure the answer is readily available over in Boxee land. . . too much on my plate to investigate right now, let alone implement and configure everything. . . that's a project for later this year.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on September 13, 2011, 02:28:00 PM
 ;)
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: kargo27 on September 13, 2011, 03:12:55 PM
Not sure about the slims however I remember in the 1st gens, the arcade version didn't have HDMI. The Elites did. Not sure if the slims did the same thing or not.....

My Arcade had HDMI but I think it had the Falcon chip.  The power adapter was a few volts/watts less as well so it ran cooler than older boxes.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: Hard Harry on September 13, 2011, 11:07:49 PM
I've been thinking of purchasing the Boxee Box. This would be a substantial move for me as I've been sticking with Netgear media players for the past several years.

Does anyone here own the Boxee Box? My main concern is understanding how the device deals with tags and cover art for video files. Netgear stores tags in an external tag file with embedded cover art for each video file. Although I can extract the tag data/cover art for each file, I expect the migration will be a real PITA.

Example:

  • file1.iso
  • file1.TAG
  • file2.iso
  • file2.TAG

I been thinking of buying the Logitech Google TV. Its down to 99$ dollars. I know it didn't get the best reviews, but for 99$ it might be fun just to play with. Its probably not as feature rich as the Boxee, but still pretty cool.

Also, whats the price comparsion between feature/price for the Boxee vs a build your own HTPC? On a side note, MaxiumPC had a decent how-to a month or two ago. Check it out. (http://www.maximumpc.com/article/features/home_theater_vengeance)
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: JavaLawyer on September 14, 2011, 04:19:06 AM
I been thinking of buying the Logitech Google TV. Its down to 99$ dollars. I know it didn't get the best reviews, but for 99$ it might be fun just to play with. Its probably not as feature rich as the Boxee, but still pretty cool.

Yeah, the reviews for Google TV were pretty abysmal. I got the impression that Google quickly threw something together to compete with Apple and some of the other pseudo-mainstream products. Streaming media players were a novelty ~5 years ago, but are now becoming commoditized. From what I've seen, finding a brand that gets the GUI right is very rare and difficult. Designing the GUI for this category of devices is not as simple as you might think given the multipurpose use, remote control-only driven interface, and broad user base (from techie to Grandma).

Netgear does a decent job and offers a good enthusiast box, but Boxee definitely has their act together on many levels. There are a number of other brands that do a somewhat decent job, but it all depends on what you want to use the device for.

Personally, I'm not that interested in access to streaming media from the Internet so much as complete control and flexibility over my video, audio, and image library. Other potential buyers who are more interested in streaming media from the Internet wouldn't necessarily gravitate towards the brands/models that I'm looking at.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: JavaLawyer on September 14, 2011, 04:28:08 AM
Also, whats the price comparsion between feature/price for the Boxee vs a build your own HTPC? On a side note, MaxiumPC had a decent how-to a month or two ago. Check it out. (http://www.maximumpc.com/article/features/home_theater_vengeance)

Thanks. . . I have a magazine subscription to MaximumPC (Paper magazine? What's that? ???). I recall reading that article last year. It's a good DIY project, MaximumPC features a DIY media center project once a year, but since I'm contending with multiple users and multiple rooms, I really need to stick with a robust commercial off-the-shelf (COTS) solution.

The conundrum is that once a video library reaches a certain size threshold, it's difficult to switch brands unless you're using widely accepted containers and video/audio codecs; a well organized directory structure; and easily portable tags. Video isn't anywhere near the maturity level of audio files in terms of portability between devices and platforms.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: Hard Harry on September 16, 2011, 02:20:48 AM
I don't know guys..just helped kevchall (http://forums.dlink.com/index.php?action=profile;u=46470) set up his Asus RT_N56U. Had a DIR-655 I was helping him with, and despite doing EVERYTHING with it, couldn't get Open NAT with his 360. Turns out was a firmware bug in the B1 series. But man, this Asus beast owns. My next router might not be Dlink. ::cringe:: I won't go into all the cool stuff it has unless people ask, because this is a Dlink forum and all, just thought I would mention it. It was fun seeing how someone else does it.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: JavaLawyer on September 16, 2011, 06:11:35 AM
I don't know guys..just helped kevchall (http://forums.dlink.com/index.php?action=profile;u=46470) set up his Asus RT_N56U. Had a DIR-655 I was helping him with, and despite doing EVERYTHING with it, couldn't get Open NAT with his 360. Turns out was a firmware bug in the B1 series. But man, this Asus beast owns. My next router might not be Dlink. ::cringe:: I won't go into all the cool stuff it has unless people ask, because this is a Dlink forum and all, just thought I would mention it. It was fun seeing how someone else does it.

There's no moral or ethical conflict with checking out and discussing how other manufacturers approach things -- that's the only way to improve. Each brand has different strengths and weaknesses.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on September 16, 2011, 07:02:46 AM
Ya I talked with Kevchall on XBL the other evening. I think we both feel that there could be an issue with the B1 FW however we both feel that the UK ISP systems there are somewhat different and there just could be a possible incompatibility issue between the ISP and that particular model of router there. I have noticed some odd issues once in a while from that region. Over all he is happy that the new router works and doesn't have any ill will towards Dlink. It's just the way things are for him. I would recommend sending a message to one of the Mods on here or the Admin and advise them of it so maybe some could have a looksee as the 655 is still a current model and I believe still under FW development here and there.

Thanks for all your help Harry.  ;)

Can alway feel free to talk about other OEMs.
http://forums.dlink.com/index.php?topic=41146.15 (http://forums.dlink.com/index.php?topic=41146.15)

I do encourage discussion about other OEMs in general however I don't encourage people bragging about other OEMs over others in regards to bad mouthing OEMs due to personal experiences before we've had a chance to troubleshoot the problem and possibly find the solution.
There are some people who take there emotions out before really thinking about things or asking for help and fly off the handle before the real problem is identified.


Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: Hard Harry on September 16, 2011, 12:15:59 PM
Yea, I feel ya. I don't think the issue was the model, but that particular router was defective. What cinched it for me was the logs. They would have complete gibberish in them, which to me says a serious firmware issue. And if you tried to change the log settings, the entire router would reboot. When he sent it back they found it was a defective unit. So that takes the blame away from Dlink design, and puts it more on quality control. I am sure there are lots of DIR-655 out there that work great, he was just unlucky.

On the other hand, his new modem, which I helped set up, showed me some nifty new features I haven't seen before. They include:

1. The ability to use a different SSID for your 2.4ghz and your 5.4ghz. Makes it handy when troubleshooting.
2. A specific application pass-through for Battle.net NAT flags. Anyone that plays Starcraft2...should know that is GOOOOD.
3. Very little changes require reboot. And when they do, it only takes..5-10seconds? Compared to most other routers 30-60. And 90% of the changes I made didn't require anything at all. Made it easy to set up remotely.
4. A QoS system that had options to which the priority was given.
5. A traffic management system that is better then any I have seen short of one running local on a machine. Put's Netgear's one to shame.
6. Ability to download from a torrent seed direct to a USB harddrive on router, the ability to share that USB to all on network, and the ability to FTP into that drive from anywhere in the world. Potent stuff.
7. With QoS off, the NAT turns to hardware mode, using a chip on the board that can handle 100,000 sim sessions. Thats 2-3 more then any other router I have seen.

Don't get me wrong. I still love my DGL...but its starting to show it's age with these new generation routers which are coming out. Even compared to some other Dlink models. I think I may make the switch when I run my new network for my entertainment system. I will still post here ofcourse though :-)
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: kargo27 on September 18, 2011, 09:25:16 AM
I think whichever router we get we should all keep our group together.  I think we all get along really well and I enjoy our discussions.
Title: Do routers "settle in"?
Post by: kargo27 on September 18, 2011, 09:26:59 AM
Do routers tend to settle in to their settings?  Do they tend to kind of "fix themselves" or make themselves more efficient like modems do?  I'm thinking probably not but was just curious.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: JavaLawyer on September 19, 2011, 04:17:56 AM
Anyone notice that D-Link moves around the order of the board categories on the forum root page? ???
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: kargo27 on September 19, 2011, 06:52:35 AM
Anyone notice that D-Link moves around the order of the board categories on the forum root page? ???

I have to honestly say that I only visit this forum and the dir-601 and have them bookmarked.

Is it because they're adding new routers and have to make room to put them in alphabetical order?
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: JavaLawyer on September 19, 2011, 07:00:14 AM
I have to honestly say that I only visit this forum and the dir-601 and have them bookmarked.

Is it because they're adding new routers and have to make room to put them in alphabetical order?

The order of the categories at the root level of the forum were moved around, not just the networking board(s). I spend most of my time in the DNS (NAS) boards and now they're all shuffled.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on September 19, 2011, 07:15:23 AM
I use Opera and have all the DGL, DIR and DAP forums tabbed so that when I close Opera and reopen it, the forums that I watch are automatically reloaded and opened.  ;D I can even group them all together, contract and expand them.  ;)
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: JavaLawyer on September 19, 2011, 07:55:31 AM
I use Opera and have all the DGL, DIR and DAP forums tabbed so that when I close Opera and reopen it, the forums that I watch are automatically reloaded and opened.  ;D I can even group them all together, contract and expand them.  ;)

You're the man. ::)

Now that DNS is listed at the top of the forum, DNS will be the first to get hit with spam. The spammers always work from top-down on the boards and usually never get deep enough to hit DNS. Looks like DGL, DIR, and DAP will get a reprieve from spam.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on September 19, 2011, 08:34:26 AM
Enjoy Man. Keep us posted. HEHE.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: JavaLawyer on September 19, 2011, 08:47:05 AM
Enjoy Man. Keep us posted. HEHE.

I know. . . What goes around, comes around.
You guys were on the front line for a long time. . .
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on September 19, 2011, 09:20:13 AM
well, let us know how things goes. Really shouldn't see a lot of spam like before. Should be near someone. I know there are a few popping in here and there. I got your report and was already gone by the time I got the email so the system is working.  ;)
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: Hard Harry on September 20, 2011, 01:45:00 AM
Got the Xbox. Send me a PM if you want so I can add you all to my (empty) friends lists. I tried playing a game of GOW2 but all I got was "ticker" games. Is this some new buffling methods people use to rank? I tried three socail hoarde matches, all of them ticker only. Whats up with that?
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on September 20, 2011, 07:14:44 AM
You need to pick up Mw2,  and if you want, BlackOps even though I hate BO. MW2 is the best, for now. Don't play GoW anymore.  ::) I'll be getting MW3 and BF3 I think.  ::)
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on September 20, 2011, 08:10:08 AM
Yawn.  :-\
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: kargo27 on September 20, 2011, 09:09:41 PM
I pre ordered and picked up Gears 3 today.  Wow, there sure is a lot going on in Horde 2.0!

Oddly, today it looks like Charter decided to push Docsis 3.0 in our area!  So, we got Gears and Docsis 3.

Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on September 20, 2011, 09:14:16 PM
Now maybe that SB 6120 will be put to good use now?
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: kargo27 on September 20, 2011, 09:47:27 PM
Now maybe that SB 6120 will be put to good use now?

Indeed!  It's been up and running since I got it.  Now, hopefully we'll get the most out of what it's designed to do.  It has 4 channels for bonding, right?  The Ubee (Ambit) I got from Charter has 6 channels.  I may try it out tomorrow and see if all 6 channels bond.

I'm currently trying a Buffalo router, btw.  A $16 refurb from ecost.com WHR-G300N model  :P

I had a lot of trouble setting it up but found the issue and then it found the DHCP IP addresses and came right up.  It's a little better than the DIR-601 only because with the 40MHz channel I can get 300 MBps transfers.  I don't think the 601 gives that option but still has been a solid performer.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: Hard Harry on September 21, 2011, 11:27:15 PM
Been playing GOW2 and I have to say..what happened? Half the games are just tickers. Then the other half are insane difficulty? Also, it forced me to download 2GB of DLC I had to buy in order to play? Since when should DLC be manitory? Thats BS. Thats Strike 1 Xbox.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on September 22, 2011, 07:06:10 AM
Really? You shouldn't have had to buy anything man. Of course I haven't played it in a while. I'll stick it in tonight and see. You don't have to buy anything to play the game or online. However DLC does limit some games in match making, like playing on different maps. COD and Halo are like this. Not sure about GOW though.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: kargo27 on September 22, 2011, 02:40:09 PM
Yeah, Harry the DLC are the maps, but any updates that XBL does are free.

I think I know what happened.  You were trying to play a map, probably with friends, and got the cross mark through the gear.  You don't have to play that map, you can go to another one.

But PS3 will have the same thing.  Any DLC for Gears, COD, etc. is $14.95 or X amount of Microsoft Points.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: Hard Harry on September 23, 2011, 12:15:24 AM
Yeah, Harry the DLC are the maps, but any updates that XBL does are free.

I think I know what happened.  You were trying to play a map, probably with friends, and got the cross mark through the gear.  You don't have to play that map, you can go to another one.

But PS3 will have the same thing.  Any DLC for Gears, COD, etc. is $14.95 or X amount of Microsoft Points.

No, I was trying to play GOW 2, Hoard, Social Match. I could play online, but only with friend invites. As soon as I turned the mode to "Social" a popup said "One of the players does not have the required Maps to play", and then would list off the 3 DLCs. I see why they did it. If they were going to allow anyone to play those maps, they had to require everyone to have those maps. Or how would Veto work? I just think it should only be required in Rank, not Social.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: kargo27 on September 23, 2011, 05:24:25 AM
No, I was trying to play GOW 2, Hoard, Social Match. I could play online, but only with friend invites. As soon as I turned the mode to "Social" a popup said "One of the players does not have the required Maps to play", and then would list off the 3 DLCs. I see why they did it. If they were going to allow anyone to play those maps, they had to require everyone to have those maps. Or how would Veto work? I just think it should only be required in Rank, not Social.

Yes, that's true.  In order to play any map, you have to have that map.  But that's all the games.  Don't be discouraged, young Jedi.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: Hard Harry on September 23, 2011, 06:48:24 AM
I understand that its required to have a map to play it, that is obvious. :-p What I meant is most games don't require you to have ALL the maps in order to play a certain game type. The whole point of Casual hoard mode was to pick up the game and play hoard for a few matches, then drop out. Before I could play, I had to pay 20-25$ and 45-50min downloading several GBs worth of DLC. Since they all wouldn't fit on my 4GB drive, I even had to buy a 125$ drive. So in a way, the game cost me 3times as much to play Hoard on Social then it did to buy the actual game. That is just silly. I am hoping other 360 games aren't like that.

On a brighter note, I absolutly LOVE Fallout 3. Kind of makes me feel old, because I remember playing the original Fallout on the PC. Ahhh yea, check out those graphics. Running smoooth on my Pentium MMX chip. Dude..it had a 14.4 modem. Don't hate. LOL
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on September 23, 2011, 08:12:48 AM
Just for giggles last nite I put my GOW2 in and played one MP game. Man I'm I rusty on that game. I didn't have to DL any stuff to play online.  ;)
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: kargo27 on September 23, 2011, 09:13:55 AM
I understand that its required to have a map to play it, that is obvious. :-p What I meant is most games don't require you to have ALL the maps in order to play a certain game type. The whole point of Casual hoard mode was to pick up the game and play hoard for a few matches, then drop out. Before I could play, I had to pay 20-25$ and 45-50min downloading several GBs worth of DLC. Since they all wouldn't fit on my 4GB drive, I even had to buy a 125$ drive. So in a way, the game cost me 3times as much to play Hoard on Social then it did to buy the actual game. That is just silly. I am hoping other 360 games aren't like that.

On a brighter note, I absolutly LOVE Fallout 3. Kind of makes me feel old, because I remember playing the original Fallout on the PC. Ahhh yea, check out those graphics. Running smoooth on my Pentium MMX chip. Dude..it had a 14.4 modem. Don't hate. LOL

Ohhhh, I see what you're saying now.  Yeah, that does suck.

At Target/Wal Mart/Gamestop I saw the Gears 1, Gears 2 and all map packs for a total price of $30.  Great deal for anyone who's never played.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on September 23, 2011, 09:24:15 AM
I would also check out craigslist or ebay or amazon for used games, no need to waste money on games that have been out for a while. Get'em cheap if you can.

What console did you get if I might ask? There is one that I don't recommend, the Arcade one, if you want HDMI.  ::)
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: Hard Harry on September 23, 2011, 09:59:19 AM
You know I saw that? But It was 10$ more then the GOW2 and I was like "that would just be a waste of money". Doh!

As for what console I got, I got the Xbox 360 S 4GB (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16868105042) with the 250GB harddrive (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16874103211) upgrade. Which actually gives me 254GB. What I was curious about is there any performance difference between using the 4GB or the 250. The 4GB is internal..so I assume Flash? Also, if I store one part of the file on one drive, and the rest on the other, does that give me any performance boost? I know it probably doesn't matter, but it got me curious. Now I just have to get off my butt and drill a hole into my livingroom and run some ethernet out there.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on September 23, 2011, 10:10:52 AM
Ya I think it's a flash card.

I was mentioned in the early days not to copy the games to the HDD. I didn't look into this further however after experiencing some ROM drive problems here and there over the years, helping the ROM drive to last a bit longer by putting the games on the HDD is prudent. Thus I have graduated to doing this. I don't notice much of a difference however there could be a difference in that the game and console are not relying upon ROM Drive accessing the disk vs waiting on the HDD read times which I presume are much faster.

Well consider this an experience and lessons learned about gaming on XBL. Maybe next time you'll come visit us here in the forums or on XBL and ask questions next time if you need?  ::)
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on September 23, 2011, 10:38:28 AM
So heres a questions for you remote networking gurus out there, IF ANY.  :P

Is there an simple and easy application for windows or setup process in windows that I can share out a folder and let someone from the WAN side of the internet gain access and upload and download things from said shared folder?
Ya, I'm talking P2P. Nothing public, this is private. Something besides using messengers to send files and such. Not sure if VPN would work and I don't have any experience with that, yet.

Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: JavaLawyer on September 23, 2011, 10:58:30 AM
So heres a questions for you remote networking gurus out there, IF ANY.  :P

Is there an simple and easy application for windows or setup process in windows that I can share out a folder and let someone from the WAN side of the internet gain access and upload and download things from said shared folder?
Ya, I'm talking P2P. Nothing public, this is private. Something besides using messengers to send files and such. Not sure if VPN would work and I don't have any experience with that, yet.



If you have a NAS you can use FTP with Read/Write access to a specific directory?
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: Hard Harry on September 23, 2011, 11:12:18 AM
If you have a NAS you can use FTP with Read/Write access to a specific directory?

This is what we use at the office.

http://filezilla-project.org/
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on September 23, 2011, 11:31:58 AM
I don't have an actual NAS. Just a PC, windows 7 and things shared out for LAN stuff.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on September 23, 2011, 11:33:49 AM
How easy is it to use Harry?

This is what we use at the office.

http://filezilla-project.org/
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: JavaLawyer on September 23, 2011, 11:50:08 AM
I haven't personally used Filezilla, but from scanning through the documentation, setting up your box as an FTP server using that app shouldn't be that difficult. Should be fairly straight forward. Setup problems are typically network related due to router or firewall issues. . . but you're already a pro at that.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on September 23, 2011, 01:35:35 PM
I'm a noob.  ::)


Well I'll probably give it a go. I was reading the documentation and does seem fairly easy. Maybe this noob can enlist the help from the Master of GOW2, Mr. Hard Harry.  ::)
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: JavaLawyer on September 23, 2011, 02:02:30 PM
It's easier than you think.  On the client side you can use an FTP client application or simply use windows explorer to transfer files (unless Filezilla has some unique dependencies).
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: Hard Harry on September 23, 2011, 02:45:59 PM
Yea, its easy. You install the server on your PC, they install the client on theirs. Then make sure you add a exception to your firewall and a Portforwarding of port 21 on your router. It only gets tricky if your ISP blocks port 21. After that, its just drag and drop pretty much. Easier for you to try, and answer questions then, for me to give a complete walkthrough. Let me know how it goes.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: JavaLawyer on September 23, 2011, 04:10:07 PM
Yea, its easy. You install the server on your PC, they install the client on theirs . . .

Is the client application necessary or can you use Windows explorer?
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: Hard Harry on September 23, 2011, 06:09:21 PM
You can use explorer, MSIE, firefox (with the right plugin), or heck you can even do it from Telnet if you want to go old school. The client just make its more user friendly.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: JavaLawyer on September 23, 2011, 06:59:55 PM
You can use explorer, MSIE, firefox (with the right plugin), or heck you can even do it from Telnet if you want to go old school. The client just make its more user friendly.

Yeah, never heard of an FTP implementation tied to a client-side app. FTP protocol doesn't require one.
Used to have an XP box with IIS for FTP. . . my DNS-343s make life so much easier. Barely any maintenance.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on September 24, 2011, 10:11:04 AM
Ok, I got the FZ Server set up and I think I have router set up for portforwarding to a selected port that I have FZ listinng too. I see need a tester to see if they can connect...where do I go from here?
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: Hard Harry on September 24, 2011, 12:11:33 PM
Now go to here. (http://www.whatismyip.com/). That will show your public IP. Then they use explorer, MSIE, etc and enter in: x.x.x.x:port. So say your IP is 68.1.2.3 and it was set to listen on port 21(default). They would go to 69.1.2.3:21 and what ever you have in your FTP sever, they should see. Ofcourse, it would ask for the password you set up when you created the server, but other then that, its pretty simple. You would just need to update them when ever your IP changes. Or use DDNS to create a domain for them to use instead.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: Hard Harry on September 25, 2011, 03:15:33 AM
Man, the more I find out about this RT-N66U, the more I want it. It looks like what the next generation DGL should be. I won't advertise for them, but yeesh, google it and you will drool. The release date is sometime in October, and I can't wait.

On a different subject. Anyone know if its possible to play Multiplayer in Fallout 3? Or do you need New Vegas for that?
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: kargo27 on September 25, 2011, 07:44:28 AM
Man, the more I find out about this RT-N66U, the more I want it. It looks like what the next generation DGL should be. I won't advertise for them, but yeesh, google it and you will drool. The release date is sometime in October, and I can't wait.

On a different subject. Anyone know if its possible to play Multiplayer in Fallout 3? Or do you need New Vegas for that?

Guess what?  I exchanged my perfectly good Netgear WNDR4500 for a Buffalo WZR-HP-AG300H yesterday at Fry's.  I told the cool guy doing the returns "This is going to sound absolutely crazy, but this router has been phenomenal and I've had zero issues with it, but I'm returning it for a Buffalo."  He laughed and said "you're not the first one to tell me that (meaning I wasn't the only one who bought above what they needed it for).  One of the reasons I exchanged it was because it has an internal fan that doesn't seem to be easily accessible.  I'm kind of worried that it will eventually fail and maybe short out the router or cause a fire.  I prefer passive cooling.

Here's a link to that Buffalo http://www.frys.com/product/6684714?site=sr:SEARCH:MAIN_RSLT_PG

About Fallout 3, yeah, unfortunately no Coop or multiplayer.  Same with New Vegas.  :-(  They said they didn't introduce it because they wanted the player to feel "alone against the world."

Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: Hard Harry on September 25, 2011, 09:28:21 AM
I just can't buy Netgear. First, not a fan of internal antenna. Second, I did a beta test of a netgear and it was the worst router I have ever used. Could have been it was on beta firmware, but it left a bad taste in my mouth for netgear.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: JavaLawyer on September 25, 2011, 09:46:21 AM
I just can't buy Netgear. First, not a fan of internal antenna. Second, I did a beta test of a netgear and it was the worst router I have ever used. Could have been it was on beta firmware, but it left a bad taste in my mouth for netgear.

I've always been a fan of Netgear products, but no matter how much I tried to like their routers, I couldn't get past the performance and technical issues. Wasn't until I purchased my DIR-615 that I realized that routers can be setup "once" and function properly.

Before N routers were available, I cycled through three WGR-614's. Two of them stopped working and I tossed the last one due to severe performance and connectivity issues.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: kargo27 on September 25, 2011, 11:00:15 AM
That's good to know about Netgear products.  I had a DGND3300 DSL Modem/Router all in one and it seemed to function well.  But I sold it on eBay a few weeks ago.  Someone got a really good deal for $26 shipped!  I lost out, big time.  My fault, I thought it would fetch a higher price so I didn't set a limit thing (I forgot the what it's called).

I bought a previous Buffalo (WHR-G300N) for $16 plus $5 shipping.  It was a b*tch to setup.  I had to turn off my laptop and on again to get it to work to find the DHCP address on the WAN.  I've never had to do that with any of my other routers.  BUT, once it was up and running it was very solid performer.

But what's the DLink equivalent of the DGL-4500 now?  I still love DLink, FWIW.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: Hard Harry on September 25, 2011, 11:09:31 AM
Check out the Asus RT-N66U (http://infodepot.wikia.com/wiki/Asus_RT-N66U)

1. 600Mhz Chip
2. 256 RAM(Some say maybe even more) and 32MB Flash
3. 2 3x3 antennas(external). 450Mb on both 2.4Ghz and 5Ghz at the same time.
4. 2 USB
5. 2 separate SSID and 1 Guest.
6. Torrent, FTP, and Printer server.
7. 10,000+ Sim connections.
8. Intelligent QoS with 4 (not just 1) pre-selects.
9. Fully compatible with 3rd party firmware (dd-wrt, tomato, and OpenWRT)
10. And a slick case to boot.

** I know it says not compatible for all but dd-wrt, but that's because they weren't released yet. The open source forums have confirmed it will be compatible upon release.**
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: JavaLawyer on September 25, 2011, 02:59:07 PM
That's good to know about Netgear products...

I wouldn't shoot down Netgear products altogether as I've only experienced issues with their routers. Netgear offers a solid line of NAS and media player products.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: LookIntoMyEyees on September 25, 2011, 06:18:06 PM
Check out the Asus RT-N66U (http://infodepot.wikia.com/wiki/Asus_RT-N66U)

1. 600Mhz Chip
2. 256 RAM(Some say maybe even more) and 32MB Flash
3. 2 3x3 antennas(external). 450Mb on both 2.4Ghz and 5Ghz at the same time.
4. 2 USB
5. 2 separate SSID and 1 Guest.
6. Torrent, FTP, and Printer server.
7. 10,000+ Sim connections.
8. Intelligent QoS with 4 (not just 1) pre-selects.
9. Fully compatible with 3rd party firmware (dd-wrt, tomato, and OpenWRT)
10. And a slick case to boot.

** I know it says not compatible for all but dd-wrt, but that's because they weren't released yet. The open source forums have confirmed it will be compatible upon release.**

 Nice find :) I was looking into buying the Asus black diamond, but I might as well hold on and see how this one does.

--
Chris
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: kargo27 on September 25, 2011, 08:24:15 PM
When's that ASUS supposed to be released?

Do any of you use open source firmware?
Title: Suggestions on wifi stability
Post by: kargo27 on September 26, 2011, 06:41:47 AM
I noticed on my wireless adapter that my speed is jumping from 300mpbs to 216 to 180, etc.  

I never seem to lose connection but is this normal?  I'm on the 5.2GHz band and am about 15 feet from the router.  It's not our beloved 4500, btw.

I have the latest driver installed.

I used inSSIDer 2.0 and there are no other 5.2GHz signals being broadcast in our area.

EDIT: I changed the client Channel Width from "Auto" to 20MHz and it's at 130Mbps but is stable and not jumpy.
Title: Re: Suggestions on wifi stability
Post by: JavaLawyer on September 26, 2011, 06:56:00 AM
I noticed on my wireless adapter that my speed is jumping from 300mpbs to 216 to 180, etc.  

I never seem to lose connection but is this normal?

Is your network in close proximity to other competing wireless networks, wireless transmitters, or devices that could cause interference? This could lower your throughput.
Title: Re: Suggestions on wifi stability
Post by: kargo27 on September 26, 2011, 06:59:23 AM
Is your network in close proximity to other competing wireless networks, wireless transmitters, or devices that could cause interference? This could lower your throughput.

If I scan using inSSIDer there are a bunch of 2.4GHz bands, probably about 9.  Most are very weak but still showing up and some of those will fade in and out of reception.

Title: Re: Suggestions on wifi stability
Post by: JavaLawyer on September 26, 2011, 07:02:23 AM
If I scan using inSSIDer there are a bunch of 2.4GHz bands, probably about 9.  Most are very weak but still showing up and some of those will fade in and out of reception.

I'm in NYC and face this issue every day. Neighboring networks and electronic devices in very close proximity, you name it.  My throughput routinely fluctuates.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: JavaLawyer on September 26, 2011, 07:21:10 AM
I'm scanning for wireless networks now and detect 57 networks ranging from very strong to very weak. Every time I refresh the list grows longer.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: kargo27 on September 26, 2011, 07:24:15 AM
I'm scanning for wireless networks now and detect 57 networks ranging from very strong to very weak. Every time I refresh the list grows longer.

Wow!  That's insane.  It makes me wonder if these radio waves are doing anything to our bodies/brains.

Watch, they'll find out that Autism is due to the increased amount of wireless transmissions over the years.

OK, I set the router's settings to "Auto" instead of 40MHz broadcast and now it's more stable, varying from 300Mbps to around 243.

Be back later.....
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: JavaLawyer on September 26, 2011, 07:29:28 AM
Wow!  That's insane.  It makes me wonder if these radio waves are doing anything to our bodies/brains.

Watch, they'll find out that Autism is due to the increased amount of wireless transmissions over the years.

OK, I set the router's settings to "Auto" instead of 40MHz broadcast and now it's more stable, varying from 300Mbps to around 243.

The fact that the fixed frequency fluctuated indicates some interference, else the signal would remain stable.

...Most of the networks I'm picking up are insanely weak, but there are a good 10-20 that are fairly strong. One of the tradeoffs of living and working in large skys****ers.

EDIT: skys****ers = "apartment buildings"... D-Link does a great job censoring benign words ???

Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on September 26, 2011, 07:41:29 AM
You have to know how to uncensor b.e.n.i.g.n.  works like Karl does, LOL.  ;D
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: JavaLawyer on September 26, 2011, 07:42:36 AM
You have to know how to uncensor b.e.n.i.g.n.  works like Karl does, LOL.  ;D

LOL :)

You'd think the rules engine would pick up on o.b.v.i.o.u.s workarounds.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on September 26, 2011, 08:06:58 AM
T.h.a.t. hasn't been programmed in yet.  ::)
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: LookIntoMyEyees on September 26, 2011, 11:28:26 AM
Is it only me but are the Emoticons not working? :) :( Oh man! This got to be a new record! of errors on the D link forums lol. Or it could just be my internet browser

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Chris
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on September 26, 2011, 11:29:12 AM
Wow, LIME your still around. Must be you man...need glasses? Hehe.

Just kidding. No it's the site.  ::)
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: JavaLawyer on September 26, 2011, 11:29:20 AM
Is it only me but are the Emoticons not working? :) :( Oh man! This got to be a new record! of errors on the D link forums lol. Or it could just be my internet browser

Your browser is working fine. We've all been experiencing this issue for some time now.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: LookIntoMyEyees on September 26, 2011, 11:34:34 AM
Lol I see your still the same old funny guy whose jokes don't have much effect :) Dam emoticons, those were my favorites :( I bounced on and check things out here and their, been busy with school lately and don't have much time to share my knowledge upon you children :) LOL but I only kid with you guys.

Edits:

Holy molly how come your reply system has gotten 99.99% faster? I just posted a message.... Also you guys are like family here :) harry and furry and I see there's now someone new posting HELLO JavaLawyer :)

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Chris
Lime the loser :(
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: JavaLawyer on September 26, 2011, 11:39:50 AM
Holy molly how come your reply system has gotten 99.99% faster? I just posted a message.... Also you guys are like family here :) harry and furry and I see there's now someone new posting HELLO JavaLawyer :)

I've always been around, but usually spend my time in the DNS boards.
We're aiming for higher customer satisfaction. . . we're striving for a 30 second response time to all posts (looks like we missed the window for this one -- 6 minutes) :)
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: LookIntoMyEyees on September 26, 2011, 11:41:28 AM
I've always been around, but usually spend my time in the DNS boards.
We're aiming for higher customer satisfaction. . . we're striving for a 30 second response time to all posts :)

 Kinda like I just did now? Also I know you been around I remember seeing you in the User logs, but I meant that you now post here. Another more is always welcomed, Furry has taken over and has now became the master of stickies :) MUAHAHAHA!

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Chris
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: JavaLawyer on September 26, 2011, 11:47:37 AM
The other boards are "all business". This is the only place with some levity and open discussion. D-Link should add a "General Discussion" category to the forum to open things up a bit and elicit more member participation.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: LookIntoMyEyees on September 26, 2011, 11:59:36 AM
I learned a long time ago that they have forsaken these forums, it is mainly run by the users. Please correct me if I am wrong. But that is just my conclusion after being here for many months. There are still moderators but usually you contact them not the other way. I am trying to wonder what could have caused the emoticons to no longer work, probably a bad update somewhere on the servers. I guess I am getting off, see you guys soon. Furry been to silent lately -_- probably mad at me because I hate Xbox... "Sad Face"

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Chris
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on September 26, 2011, 12:03:50 PM
See we got Harry into a Xbox, should get one Too..
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on September 26, 2011, 12:50:15 PM
Wow, are all the routers working for everyone? Sure is quite on the router boards. Sheesh.  :o
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: kargo27 on September 26, 2011, 01:43:03 PM
Wooo, man, you boys have been tearing up the board today!

Java is right.  The "other" boards are all business.  This is the "bar and grill" of the forum.

Come on in and have a c.o.c.ktail.  Sit back and relax.  <smile>  <-----using these as smileys until they fix the real ones.

I have a feeling that we're in the ghetto of boards.  Things are starting to break and nothing's getting fixed.  We need to call Bookman (from Good Times) to fix it.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: Hard Harry on September 26, 2011, 07:22:45 PM
Emoticons don't work because someone IS trying to make things better. Probably only one guy who isn't get paid one extra dime to fix these board, so I am going to give him as much times as he needs. Atleast somone actually doing SOMEthing.

As for me getting a Xbox...yea..it's true. One of the only reasons I did was because of GOW 3. One of the few FPS I can still play and not get super stressed. Maybe because it's so super over the top, my mind can easily see it's not real.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on September 27, 2011, 07:00:40 AM
I don't think of these boards at the ghettos at all, just THIS thread started by me. Ya, a place for anyone to come and just talk. No business in here needed. Most of the other threads are business, not not a lot going on right now..is this a good or bad thing?  ::)
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: kargo27 on September 27, 2011, 07:06:51 AM
I don't think of these boards at the ghettos at all, just THIS thread started by me. Ya, a place for anyone to come and just talk. No business in here needed. Most of the other threads are business, not not a lot going on right now..is this a good or bad thing?  ::)

LOL, I think I had a joke FAIL.  I meant by "ghetto" that things are going into disrepair.....i.e....the smileys.  Nothing other than that.  <smile>

Harry, do you like Horde 2.0?  I don't like the idea of having to buy/upgrade stuff.  I have to do that in real life and would like for my games to give me stuff for free.  LOL!  What???
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on September 27, 2011, 07:11:21 AM
Thats one thing I didn't like much in Black Ops, had to buy stuff. Eh, it's ok, kind of distracting having to remember or figure out what your needs are and such for various games and maps. I think alot of games are doing to do that too. Reach did it too, however in Reach, the stuff you buy is only to make you look good. ::)
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: JavaLawyer on September 27, 2011, 07:18:38 AM
LOL, I think I had a joke FAIL.  I meant by "ghetto" that things are going into disrepair.....i.e....the smileys.  Nothing other than that.  <smile>

If you recall, I think the emoticons were removed due to budget cuts. :) :) :)
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: JavaLawyer on September 27, 2011, 02:44:16 PM
I just read a preview of a new DNS model: "DNS-345 Sharecenter Quattro", a new 4-bay NAS (I presume to succeed the DNS-343.

Finally, a 4-bay D-Link NAS with 3TB HDD support. 12TB!


(http://up.nas-tweaks.net/2011/09/dns-345-front.png)

(http://up.nas-tweaks.net/2011/09/dns-345-back.png)/center]
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: kargo27 on September 27, 2011, 04:48:51 PM
If you recall, I think the emoticons were removed due to budget cuts. :) :) :)

EXACTLY!  Wasn't that funny?  I thought it was.  :-D
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: JavaLawyer on September 27, 2011, 05:01:21 PM
EXACTLY!  Wasn't that funny?  I thought it was.  :-D

I heard that next they're taking away all the vowels.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: kargo27 on September 27, 2011, 07:13:38 PM
*h n*! T** l*t*!
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: JavaLawyer on September 27, 2011, 07:25:04 PM
*h n*! T** l*t*!

L*L R*FL!!!!
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: kargo27 on September 27, 2011, 09:12:37 PM
L*L R*FL!!!!

L*L!!!!
Title: I don't get the following this WRT-54GL has....
Post by: kargo27 on September 27, 2011, 09:15:10 PM
Look at all the reviews and it has 5 eggs.

I just don't get it.  It's B/G, no Gigabit ports, and old.  WTH???

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833124190

PS The "link" icon isn't working for me either.  First the smileys and now the hyperlink, link tool.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: Hard Harry on September 28, 2011, 01:30:20 AM
Its because it was one of the first routers to get 3rd party firmware support by way of Tomato. Heck, two firmware solutions are named after the router. LOL. It's a legend.  And since there have been SOOO much devolopment of that firmware, its very very stable. Many people who run small servers for 5-10 users don't need much in way of hardware, just a cheap, reliable and uflly configurable solution, and thats the WRT54G. I personally perfer the WRT54GS v2. Has double the flash and RAM then the more common WRT54GL(which are just WRT54G 4.0)
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on September 28, 2011, 07:13:54 AM
Question for anyone...what is the theoretical speed limit of these home routers? Any one know? I mean what is the Internet speed, no the physical LAN speed connection of GB, I mean what would be the Mb Up and Down be? I'm starting to see alot of higher ISP speeds being posted, like 25/25 and 60/60. Anyone have any info or thoughts? Home routers built to handle these higher speeds on the UP?
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: Hard Harry on September 28, 2011, 08:40:50 AM
The highest I have seen is 150/50, that was with bonding 8streams down, and 4 streams up. If your wondering if your router can handle it, just connect your routers WAN to another routers LAN, then test transfer rates between the two LAN's. You would need to configire the DHCP range ofcourse, and adjust the gateways, but shouldn't be too hard.

Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on September 28, 2011, 08:44:29 AM
Just wondering if most SOHO routers can handle those higher speeds. I presume so however is there a limit that anyone knows about? I know the 4500 and 825 handles my 50/2 fine. I see that uplink speeds for some people are becoming more faster. Also if this is the case, leaving uplink speed set to automatic on the router preferred?
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: kargo27 on September 29, 2011, 04:16:34 PM
Oh wow, are the smileys back up?

I can see them all now but I'm on my work iPad not my regular laptop.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on September 29, 2011, 05:11:41 PM
wow, they are how kewl.  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: JavaLawyer on September 29, 2011, 06:44:44 PM
Busy day on the boards today! Lots going on. :)
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: Hard Harry on September 29, 2011, 10:18:20 PM
Anyone notice the multiplayer and match making is soooo much better in GOW3? I haven't had one lag spike or issue. I would say its the dedicated server, but Horde doesn't use it. Either way, I'm happy :-)

3 things I hate about GOW3

1. People who don't use Mic or leave mic on with stupid conversation in the background. Its called mute.
2. People who die so just leave. Get on the Mic and spot for others.
3. People who don't bunker up. This isn't Halo, stop running around like a idiot. I can almost bet your pressing A to try to jump aren't you? LOL
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: Hard Harry on September 30, 2011, 04:27:04 AM
BTW, DGL-4500 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833127243&Tpk=N82E16833127243) is back down to 89$ on Newegg. Just use coupon code EMCKAGK67

Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on September 30, 2011, 07:09:43 AM
Been playing the beta demo of BF3.  ;D

Anyone notice the multiplayer and match making is soooo much better in GOW3? I haven't had one lag spike or issue. I would say its the dedicated server, but Horde doesn't use it. Either way, I'm happy :-)

3 things I hate about GOW3

1. People who don't use Mic or leave mic on with stupid conversation in the background. Its called mute.
2. People who die so just leave. Get on the Mic and spot for others.
3. People who don't bunker up. This isn't Halo, stop running around like a *****. I can almost bet your pressing A to try to jump aren't you? LOL
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: XS on September 30, 2011, 07:14:22 AM
Yeah I just downloaded the beta, never played it online but looks fun.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on September 30, 2011, 07:20:59 AM
Graphics are awesome man...I played yesterday, looks pretty good man. I'm hoping MW3 is good too..going to be a tough season with all these games coming out.  >:(
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on September 30, 2011, 07:26:17 AM
Fraggboy, would you start a new threat post for this Please? This is related to Dlink and it's not OFF Topic. Thank you.

Forgot, where are my manors, still at the bottom of the coffee cup. I apologize. Welcome to the board. Hope you enjoy your stay. Please feel free to post and ask questions.  ;D

Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: kargo27 on September 30, 2011, 10:52:23 AM
I'm not sure if I like the buying of reinforecements on gow3.

If you don't pool ur cash together then u don't get the best reinforcements. And if ur playing with people u don't know, then ur more likely not to give them ur hard earned cash.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on September 30, 2011, 02:09:31 PM
Watch the 3rd video...
http://netscape.aol.com/video/urlesque-employee-must-be-having-a-bad-day-/1192567645001/ (http://netscape.aol.com/video/urlesque-employee-must-be-having-a-bad-day-/1192567645001/)
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: Hard Harry on September 30, 2011, 10:41:28 PM
Really? AOL videos? Netscape AOL videos no less. Why don't we just throw some WebTV and Genie in there and travel back to 1993. Hehe   ;D :D
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: kargo27 on October 01, 2011, 06:03:38 AM
Hahaha, that was cool with those old floppies.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: JavaLawyer on October 01, 2011, 08:33:37 AM
Hahaha, that was cool with those old floppies.

Let's not forget the CD coasters.  ;D
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on October 01, 2011, 11:33:55 AM
You member the old days harry or you not that old enough yet? Come on Harry, you know you want to. LOL

 ;D

Really? AOL videos? Netscape AOL videos no less. Why don't we just throw some WebTV and Genie in there and travel back to 1993. Hehe   ;D :D
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: JavaLawyer on October 01, 2011, 01:13:07 PM
Hmm, you seem to be deflecting...Were you around in the days of punch cards?  ;D

You member the old days harry or you not that old enough yet? Come on Harry, you know you want to. LOL
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on October 01, 2011, 01:39:04 PM
Harrys trying not to show is true age.

Hmm, you seem to be deflecting...Were you around in the days of punch cards?  ;D

Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: Kamikazi2142 on October 01, 2011, 05:06:36 PM
OMG BATTLEFIELD 3 BETA O.O

beautiful game, but there are quite a few bugs to note, am gonna post a youtube video up soon, check out My Youtube (http://"http://www.youtube.com/user/Kamikazi2142?feature=mhee") for updates!!
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: Hard Harry on October 01, 2011, 10:32:45 PM
Harrys trying not to show is true age.


Wasn't quite around for punchcards. Well, ok, I was born then, but I was like 1, so I wasn't quite involved with the technology yet. LOL. I came on the tech scene right around Windows 95 was making it's splash. So i did see the birth of the internet. I remember waiting a hour for AOL to connect and getting excited with they added some 28.8 dial up numbers in Providence RI. Wooohoo.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: JavaLawyer on October 02, 2011, 11:24:01 AM
I remember waiting a hour for AOL to connect and getting excited with they added some 28.8 dial up numbers in Providence RI. Wooohoo.

I wonder whatever happened to my 28.8 bps U.S. Robotics modem. . . ???  I paid a small fortune for that thing when it first came out.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on October 02, 2011, 12:30:48 PM
I still have my motorola 14.4 silver case modem.  ;D
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: JavaLawyer on October 02, 2011, 12:32:33 PM
Emoticons seem to be working again!

 :) ;) :D ;D >:( :( 8) ??? ::) :-[ :-X :-* :'(
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on October 02, 2011, 05:43:27 PM
Just noticed that did ya?  ::)  :-*
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: kargo27 on October 02, 2011, 07:17:25 PM
IGN Strategize Battlefield 3 beta survival guide on XBL looked grainy today.

Did anyone else notice that?

I loves me some Jessica Chobot but she and the whole video looked really grainy today.  Was it just me?  I tried 2 different routers including the 4500 so I'm hoping it's just the quality from XBL.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on October 02, 2011, 08:24:54 PM
Haven't been on BF3 since friday...looked fantastic on the video...really like it.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: JavaLawyer on October 03, 2011, 04:37:31 AM
Just noticed that did ya?  ::)  :-*

The laptop I've been primarily using during the day for the past 5 months is encrypted and 90%+ of the Internet is blocked. Social networking oriented graphics don't display. When was this fixed?
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on October 03, 2011, 07:34:58 AM
I think last week sometime..notice that the icons are displaying well.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: kargo27 on October 03, 2011, 09:32:10 AM
Everything looks good again on the forum!   ;D
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on October 03, 2011, 02:38:31 PM
Is that nice.  ;)
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: kargo27 on October 03, 2011, 03:20:41 PM
Is that nice.  ;)

Indeed!   :D
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: LookIntoMyEyees on October 03, 2011, 04:25:21 PM
 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

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Chris
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on October 03, 2011, 04:31:34 PM
Good Ol LIME is around, long time.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: LookIntoMyEyees on October 03, 2011, 04:37:20 PM
Good Ol LIME is around, long time.

 What can I say I miss my home... Would you guys always welcome me back? So I finally see the forums are working.

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Chris
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: kargo27 on October 03, 2011, 06:17:37 PM
Welcome back, Chris!  ;)  Of course we would!  Did you get another router? 
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: JavaLawyer on October 04, 2011, 08:07:49 AM
Furry -- Looks like you're "possibly" approaching the coveted "Level 16" (5500 posts?).  ;D
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on October 04, 2011, 08:22:32 AM
Im sure the highest we can go is 15 thus probably roll over to -1 and go in that direction.
 ;D

Furry -- Looks like your "possibly" approaching the coveted "Level 16" (5500 posts?).  ;D
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: JavaLawyer on October 04, 2011, 08:39:57 AM
Im sure the highest we can go is 15 thus probably roll over to -1 and go in that direction.
 ;D


We'll know soon enough.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on October 04, 2011, 08:43:13 AM
Maybe  ;)
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on October 04, 2011, 08:44:54 AM
I must be doing something right  ::)
3rd review down...
http://www.compusa.com/applications/searchtools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=3535372&csid=_21 (http://www.compusa.com/applications/searchtools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=3535372&csid=_21)

Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: Hard Harry on October 04, 2011, 09:06:17 AM
Now if only it was on Newegg and not CompUSA.  :D :D

I don't know though. This might sound odd, but does anyone else get drained of helping people with problems sometimes? Seems my entire existence is just that. ::scratch head:: And it gets tiresom when your the go to guy for PC issues, but when you have a problem, its crickets and blank stares.  Maybe I need to take a break away the different forums I am on. It has me really grumpy latly. I know its way off topic, but anyone have any tips in refueling the batteries so to speak?
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: fraggboy on October 04, 2011, 09:08:13 AM
Getting your name out there!!  Congrats!!


This device has some very high ratings all over.  CompUSA, Amazon, etc.  I have to say, and it's HARD to admit this, but here it goes  (Goes along the lines of high ratings). . .

I purchased this a few years ago, but it was quickly replaced with a Juniper wireless SSG-5 ( worked for a reseller and got it for a heavy discount).  I needed a FW to handle a LOT of sessions (Need I say more??).  Anyways, after using the Juniper over 3 years, the wireless kept dropping.  The wired was very strong, but I rely on wireless as well.

I remembered this firewall and I decided to 'give it a shot', since the reviews were very high.  And, I'm very happy.  

I would have stuck with Juniper if they incorporated "N"  (It supports A/B/G). I loved being able to run multiple SSID's at once.   Very secure, but my SSG-5 was more designed with a small-business in mind not relying heavily on wireless. Juniper makes wireless AP's for business use, but they are pretty pricey.  

HH,

I am a moderator on a different forum, and I know how you feel. Take a break from it!  That's what I'm doing, and it's helping me greatly.  :D
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: JavaLawyer on October 04, 2011, 09:09:14 AM
I must be doing something right  ::)
3rd review down...
http://www.compusa.com/applications/searchtools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=3535372&csid=_21 (http://www.compusa.com/applications/searchtools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=3535372&csid=_21)


Since you're modest, I'll post if for you:


Works as promised
Reviewer:  5280 on  Sep 17, 2011
Customer Rating: 5.0
Value 5.0
Features 5.0
Quality 5.0
Performance 5.0

Having 2 teenagers in the house and a growing collection of internet connected devices I upgraded from our D-Link DI-624. 3 ipods, 2 PCs, 1 laptop and an xbox 360 all share this router. The gamefuel option was the main reason I purchased this and my son is very greatful. Gamefuel set up was a bit confusing as I'm not a techie, but after a bit of reaserch on the D-Link forum (thank you Furrynutz)I have the xbox running great. Before my son had trouble connecting to MW2 and is now hosting games. The speed and coverage over our entire network has dramatically increased. I would recommend this router to gamers and large families alike. I have purchased a 1T external HD to take advantage of the USB shareport feature but haven't received it yet. Hopefully it works as flawlessly as the rest of the system
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on October 04, 2011, 09:41:22 AM
Understandable Harry, very understandable. Been some days I don't feel like or not motivated to check on whats going on here. Take a break man. Why you don't see me on mostly on the weekends. I kinda let others handle or let it build up and come back on Monday and check. It's not like were getting paid for 24 hours of service man. Enjoy doing other things as well. We all need to hook up on XBL and play some.

Now if only it was on Newegg and not CompUSA.  :D :D

I don't know though. This might sound odd, but does anyone else get drained of helping people with problems sometimes? Seems my entire existence is just that. ::scratch head:: And it gets tiresom when your the go to guy for PC issues, but when you have a problem, its crickets and blank stares.  Maybe I need to take a break away the different forums I am on. It has me really grumpy latly. I know its way off topic, but anyone have any tips in refueling the batteries so to speak?
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: LookIntoMyEyees on October 04, 2011, 09:43:26 AM
Welcome back, Chris!  ;)  Of course we would!  Did you get another router? 

 No I did not :) I still got my old trust 4500 to do all my dirty routing :)

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Chris
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: JavaLawyer on October 04, 2011, 10:34:00 AM
Im sure the highest we can go is 15 thus probably roll over to -1 and go in that direction.
 ;D


Bummer! 5500 and nothing. . . .
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on October 04, 2011, 10:44:09 AM
 :'(
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: Hard Harry on October 04, 2011, 11:21:55 AM
Bummer! 5500 and nothing. . . .
Java, how come you only have 1 green rank? Seems like you reset too?
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: JavaLawyer on October 04, 2011, 11:24:57 AM
Java, how come you only have 1 green rank? Seems like you reset too?

Oh no!  :o
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: Hard Harry on October 04, 2011, 11:47:17 AM
Odd. Other users with simular amounts of post didn't lose their rank. Maybe because both of you and Furry are "Powerusers". Hehe..::hums powerranger theme song::
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: JavaLawyer on October 04, 2011, 11:52:02 AM
Odd. Other users with simular amounts of post didn't lose their rank. Maybe because both of you and Furry are "Powerusers". Hehe..::hums powerranger theme song::

No, it's actually a new feature on the forum indicating battery level if you're using a laptop. One bar left, I should plug-in.  ;D
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on October 04, 2011, 11:59:14 AM
Ya I'm running kinda low.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: Hard Harry on October 04, 2011, 12:08:09 PM
Wow, I didn't even know my desktop had a battery, and here I am at 5 bars. Awsome!

On a more serious note, anyone have any experience with Ubuntu and Ipods? I am familiar with Ubuntu, but have always used my Ipods with my PC's. She is having a issue dragging and dropping from laptop to Ipod while using programs. She can drag and drop from Ipod folder to Ipod folder. She can drag and drop from main drive to ipod from computers file system. And she can Sync the ipod from the program. But she can't drag and drop programs, in her music program stored on her harddrive, to her Ipod. No error, they just don't appear there.

Im in the midst of researching it, but wonder if anyone has experience with it?
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: XS on October 04, 2011, 06:22:13 PM
So who on here plays XBL besides Furry and what do you all play?
I mostly play COD, black ops, I play some MW2 on rare occasions.  I started playing the BF3 beta but its only one map, so it will get boring fast. I plan on buying MW3 and BF3.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: kargo27 on October 04, 2011, 08:49:03 PM
Now if only it was on Newegg and not CompUSA.  :D :D

I don't know though. This might sound odd, but does anyone else get drained of helping people with problems sometimes? Seems my entire existence is just that. ::scratch head:: And it gets tiresom when your the go to guy for PC issues, but when you have a problem, its crickets and blank stares.  Maybe I need to take a break away the different forums I am on. It has me really grumpy latly. I know its way off topic, but anyone have any tips in refueling the batteries so to speak?

I can totally understand that.  Definitely take a break from the forums and even this one.....but just post in the OT thread.   ;)
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: Hard Harry on October 04, 2011, 10:12:01 PM
Yea, thats kind of what I am doing. No long posts at least. Just keeping it light. Now if only RL problems were as easy to fix as network problems. heh

But yea, I just got a Xbox 360 XS. I play GOW3 and Fallout 3. I play other games on the PS3 though.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: XS on October 05, 2011, 07:25:08 AM
Yeah I am broke after pre ordering MW3 and BF3, I have GOW 1 and 2 and never played it more than 5 minutes.  How is GOW3?  I heard its real good.  I will have to play some GOW2 and see how I like it. 
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: LookIntoMyEyees on October 05, 2011, 09:22:16 PM
Lets take a moment of silence for Steve Jobs... Wow will he be missed! The dude just retired, come on!

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Chris
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: JavaLawyer on October 05, 2011, 09:33:46 PM
Lets take a moment of silence for Steve Jobs... Wow will he be missed!

I second that.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: Hard Harry on October 05, 2011, 10:09:47 PM
3rd

No matter if your a PC or Mac user, anyone could see he was a driving force for technology, and I respect that.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: kargo27 on October 06, 2011, 05:49:19 AM
Agreed.  He was an amazingly innovative American.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on October 06, 2011, 07:52:56 AM
I will miss him for sure.. :'( I hope that Apple will keep being innovative and be the leading tech company he made it today for a long time.  :)
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: Hard Harry on October 06, 2011, 08:06:10 AM
::edited to remove immature rant::

http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/product?product=4083969&lc=en&cc=us&dlc=en&lang=en&cc=us

Connected USB direct to PC now, but want to be able to access it when computer is off from network. Have it wireless connected to network, set a DHCP reservation(192.168.1.5) and put it in the DMZ for kicks. I have the computers OS firewall and AV disabled. I can ping the IP, I can access it's interface from webbrowser, and I can see it when OS scans for printers, but can't find the driver. When using the HP software, it can't find the printer at all. Ran the HP Network Utility, and all it saw was the old printer (I assume some software left on desktop that still has the port set to listening?). I ran MS update, and it was unable to find the driver. Any suggestions?
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on October 06, 2011, 08:23:39 AM
Have you downloaded the driver and attempted to extract the drivers into a folder then do a manual PNP and point to the drivers that were extracted by chance?
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: Hard Harry on October 06, 2011, 08:32:48 AM
I can't find the driver. That is the issue. There website calls it a "driver" but in reality its a installation program. When I search the entire folder, I find only one autorun.ini and windows does not reconize it as full driver.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on October 06, 2011, 09:21:03 AM
Let us know how the driver I found works out for you.  ;D
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: Hard Harry on October 06, 2011, 09:29:33 AM
Ok, so Furry helped me, and as part of that trade, I felt it required to make the fallowing statement.

Furry is great, I am dumb. HP is awsome, and all other companies are poop. Furry knows all things, and I know nothing.

Hehe. Seriously, thanks for the help. On a side note, anyone know what wine goes well with foot?
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on October 06, 2011, 09:32:54 AM
LOL ur a crazy man Harry.

Glad to be of help.

I preferre a Soft Chenin with my feet LOL.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: kargo27 on October 06, 2011, 10:37:54 AM
I missed these last few posts.  I have that EXACT SAME printer!

I love it.  I have no issues with WiFi connections.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: kargo27 on October 06, 2011, 02:36:14 PM
On another note, I got RAGE for XBOX Tuesday. 

If you liked Borderlands and Fallout 3/New Vegas, this is like a morph of the two, leaning more towards the Fallout side, of course, since Bethesda IS Fallout 3.  Not exactly groundbreaking but fun so far.  I'm a little disappointed, though I thought it would be a little more different.

I've only been playing the campaign, no multiplayer.  I also haven't gotten any really good weapons yet.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: JavaLawyer on October 07, 2011, 05:19:55 AM
The Steve Jobs autobiography will be released later this month. The book was authored by Walter Isaacson through cooperation with Steve Jobs and his family: Amazon - Steve Jobs (http://www.amazon.com/Steve-Jobs-Walter-Isaacson/dp/1451648537/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1317989942&sr=8-1)
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on October 07, 2011, 10:17:51 AM
Posted by: XS
Insert Quote
That sucks Furry, glad you got your account back.  I noticed you were online also playing Bops!


Ya, I saw you to, hows our gaming going?

Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: XS on October 07, 2011, 10:28:04 AM
Ah good call furry moving it to the proper thread, lol.

Good!!! Lag only rears its ugly head every once in awhile.  However I noticed an increase of noobtubers in Bops, RPG's, Law's and guys running around with grenade launchers already equipped, noticed that junk in the kill cam!
Seriously? just shoot me next time, lol.

I was running online with my account set to block and I was man I need some new friends, since no one invites me,  :o.

Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on October 07, 2011, 10:30:13 AM
Kewl...I was using an RPG last night. I know I was making some people mad at me.  ;D
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: XS on October 07, 2011, 10:42:10 AM
Probably,  :D yeah I don't know why getting blown up bothers me, I mean I don't rage or anything, I am not like that, I just say, "seriously?"

Ghost Campers don't bother me but explosives do, lol. Heck I run ghost pro! Oh wait unless there is team with flak jacket on equipped with M60 ADS at the one entry locking down a building.  That also makes me say "seriously?"

LOL, good times! yes, sarcasm...
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on October 07, 2011, 10:59:18 AM
Well, I have to say Really to ya. Ya know, we only use what the game developers give us.  ;D I love claymores.  :-*
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: XS on October 07, 2011, 12:16:31 PM
No biggie Furry, just saying not really complaining  ;) and I love using claymores a lot too! So it's all good!
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on October 07, 2011, 12:27:16 PM
I know, I just think your mad cuz you didn't take out the other guy before he got you right?  ::)
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: XS on October 07, 2011, 12:38:25 PM
Nah I don't get mad I get even, lol. I could not resist! Anyway, It would not bother me at all if the same guy shot me with an AR or any other gun.  Just one of those things. 
I really enjoy playing the game, I think the noobtube thing brings back old memories of MW2 with guys running around with OMA, DC and just using explosives all through the match.  However I do love me some AA-12 action!
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on October 07, 2011, 01:08:28 PM
Wanna play MW2 tonite?  ;D I'm game if you are.   ::)
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: XS on October 07, 2011, 02:30:27 PM
Tonight is not good, my buddy let me borrow GOW3 and I want to try that out for bit since he wants it back tomorrow.  I am game for whatever even MW2 if playing with friends!  The voice over is still the best, "enemy AC-130!!!! tango sucka" :P



Hey does anyone know if there are any issues using a non MS HDD in the Xbox slim, like this one?
http://www.amazon.com/250G-Hard-Disk-Drive-Microsoft/dp/B004GX4864

I heard some people say that MS might roll out an update to check for non branded hardware on Xbox's and they will ban that console from XBL or something.

Any truth to this?
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: fraggboy on October 07, 2011, 04:21:09 PM
Hey does anyone know if there are any issues using a non MS HDD in the Xbox slim, like this one?
http://www.amazon.com/250G-Hard-Disk-Drive-Microsoft/dp/B004GX4864

I heard some people say that MS might roll out an update to check for non branded hardware on Xbox's and they will ban that console from XBL or something.

Any truth to this?

The reviews are very positive on Amazon. I have a slim, and I haven't run across any posts that M$ plans on 'locking' down the slim with their proprietary hdd's or banning.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: kargo27 on October 07, 2011, 11:04:37 PM
Tonight is not good, my buddy let me borrow GOW3 and I want to try that out for bit since he wants it back tomorrow.  I am game for whatever even MW2 if playing with friends!  The voice over is still the best, "enemy AC-130!!!! tango sucka" :P

It's actually "Tango Sakat" meaning "Tango down" but most of us thought he said "sucka".  I had to look it up!  ;)


Hey does anyone know if there are any issues using a non MS HDD in the Xbox slim, like this one?
http://www.amazon.com/250G-Hard-Disk-Drive-Microsoft/dp/B004GX4864

I heard some people say that MS might roll out an update to check for non branded hardware on Xbox's and they will ban that console from XBL or something.

Any truth to this?

Man, I hope they don't run an update for this.  I put one in my son's 4GB Slim.  It's been working great for over 2 months now.  Not banned yet! 
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: Hard Harry on October 08, 2011, 12:03:43 AM
The reviews are very positive on Amazon. I have a slim, and I haven't run across any posts that M$ plans on 'locking' down the slim with their proprietary hdd's or banning.

There are some game that give it trouble. The one I heard about was Halo Reach Firefight. It seems to cache the map on the drive before the match, and XBL doesn't reconize the harddrive.

http://www.bungie.net/Forums/posts.aspx?postID=49058442&postRepeater1-p=1#49058463
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: XS on October 08, 2011, 07:30:25 AM
That Bungie link, they are talking about an external HDD, so that may be why they are having issues.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: Hard Harry on October 08, 2011, 07:40:18 AM
Yea, that was just one I goggled real quick as reference. Do some digging around, there are some people having issues with 3rd party internal hard drives. If you look at MS 250GB HD, there only like 230GB on it. Granted some of that is for partitioning, etc, but they also put some propitiatory software that some games require for it to work. Look at this link instead.

http://forums.xbox.com/xbox_forums/xbox_support/f/7/p/57932/316735.aspx#316735
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: XS on October 08, 2011, 09:17:39 AM
Thanks for the links, Harry!
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on October 08, 2011, 10:35:46 AM
Just FYI, I did some digging around last year and this year for any possible solutions for putting in non standard and bigger drives then what MS policies demand. It can be done however the FW used limits the size to what MS policies demand so should you want a TB drive on your xbox, you'll be wasting it as you'll only get the limits of what MS policies demand.  >:( This is the internal HDD.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: Hard Harry on October 08, 2011, 11:41:48 AM
Thats part of it, but there is more to it then that I think. There is the physical limitiation, like how the board on the 360 can only do 8MB cache, so getting the higher RPM drives do nothing. On top of that, there is the size limit, I think that is set by the UI. Then there is the DRM the Xbox uses, which can keep you from media sharing and copying some files to your hard drive. Last, there is specail software on the MS HD that some games take advantage of, that isn't on a 3rd party drive (unless you clone a drive, or crack it). All of those things can not only limit you if using a 3rd party, but can raise red flags on their end. A red flag doesn't mean ban though, its more dynamic then that. They probably run sweepers, and then those logs are probably only looked at if they raise bigger flags, and even then there is probably a program they use to filter false negatives.

Bottom line? 3rd party are cheaper, but sometimes they don't work as well, and there can be some risk. For some though, they haven't had any problems. Thats the chance you take.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: kargo27 on October 08, 2011, 11:45:19 AM
Well, you all scared me enough that I bought an official MS HDD on ebay to replace the one my son has.  I don't want a banned console.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: XS on October 08, 2011, 02:04:31 PM
Well, you all scared me enough that I bought an official MS HDD on ebay to replace the one my son has.  I don't want a banned console.

Yeah......... I think I will be doing he same thing, buying a MS HDD when I get some money. :D
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: Hard Harry on October 08, 2011, 02:22:04 PM
I didn't really mean to scare you. Trust me, I wanted to buy to use a 3rd party more then anyone..I have like 8 of them laying around. LOL. But after all the drama with my first xbox, I didn't want to mess around.

On a interesting note, anyone know where on the board they keep the 4GB? Why doesn't the 250GB version have the extra 4GB on the board? I doabt they use a different board..maybe its just turned off?
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: kargo27 on October 08, 2011, 07:39:44 PM
I didn't really mean to scare you. Trust me, I wanted to buy to use a 3rd party more then anyone..I have like 8 of them laying around. LOL. But after all the drama with my first xbox, I didn't want to mess around.

On a interesting note, anyone know where on the board they keep the 4GB? Why doesn't the 250GB version have the extra 4GB on the board? I doabt they use a different board..maybe its just turned off?

That's a good question about the 4GB.  I dunno.  You'd think they'd leave it on to make up for some of the space they hog for whatever it is they use it for.

A few years ago, I bought a used XBOX 360 for my son.  I got a decent deal on it but come to find out it was modded and when MS did an update, it was then banned.  I sold it on ebay to someone who didn't care about XBL.  So, if there's anything that may cause his to be banned, I'll pass.  It's still under warranty.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: JavaLawyer on October 09, 2011, 09:58:15 AM
There's been a crazy number of spam attacks over the last 24 hours.   >:(
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on October 09, 2011, 10:52:06 AM
I know I removed a few last nite.  :o
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: JavaLawyer on October 09, 2011, 10:59:57 AM
I know I removed a few last nite.  :o

"A few.."? Between last night and this morning I removed well over 300. My mouse buttons are worn out.  >:(
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: Hard Harry on October 09, 2011, 11:08:59 AM
Wooot, way to go guys!

Now that you see what a pain it is to remove spammers, any thought into how to prevent them? I think putting a IP ban on the boards from certain parts would do TONS to stop spammers(China, I am looking at you!). Sure they could get around it, but with so many open boards, we wouldn't be a easy target anymore.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on October 09, 2011, 11:17:40 AM
Awe, someone send Java a new mouse.  ;D
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: JavaLawyer on October 09, 2011, 11:17:47 AM
Wooot, way to go guys!

Now that you see what a pain it is to remove spammers, any thought into how to prevent them? I think putting a IP ban on the boards from certain parts would do TONS to stop spammers(China, I am looking at you!). Sure they could get around it, but with so many open boards, we wouldn't be a easy target anymore.

I'm thinking of something more along the lines of disabling a user account that posts more than X posts in 10 minutes.  I also know of some commercial sites that preclude spam through preventing posts that have a specific % similarity with existing recently submitted posts by the same user.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: JavaLawyer on October 09, 2011, 11:20:28 AM
The one good thing about spam is that the body text in the posts is always nearly (if not completely) identical, making detection and removal easy.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on October 09, 2011, 11:21:14 AM
Ya and make it aware of language UI as well. Been removing spam thats not in EN and is some other language format.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: JavaLawyer on October 09, 2011, 11:28:03 AM
Ya and make it aware of language UI as well. Been removing spam thats not in EN and is some other language format.

Yeah, I presume there are plug-ins for the forum engine that handle this type of filtering.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: Hard Harry on October 09, 2011, 11:55:05 AM
I'm thinking of something more along the lines of disabling a user account that posts more than X posts in 10 minutes.  I also know of some commercial sites that preclude spam through preventing posts that have a specific % similarity with existing recently submitted posts by the same user.

The first suggestion sounds good, and so does the second suggestion, but I think that one would require some commercial software running on the server.

One thing I think would really help you guys is the ability to select all the posts of 1 user in one swoop. Then add a delay of 24hr between posting and having it show up on the forum if its your first post. Last, set up a red flag, like Java said, if that user posts more then a certain amount in that 24hr period. So that way all you have to do is monitor those red flags, bring up the user, delete all his posts in one swoop, and ban him. Saves you a ton of work, and saves us from having to see the spam in the first place. Also, since the spam wouldn't even be on the forum for a second, spammers in general would be less tempted to spam here.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: JavaLawyer on October 09, 2011, 12:15:18 PM
The first suggestion sounds good, and so does the second suggestion, but I think that one would require some commercial software running on the server.

One thing I think would really help you guys is the ability to select all the posts of 1 user in one swoop. Then add a delay of 24hr between posting and having it show up on the forum if its your first post. Last, set up a red flag, like Java said, if that user posts more then a certain amount in that 24hr period. So that way all you have to do is monitor those red flags, bring up the user, delete all his posts in one swoop, and ban him. Saves you a ton of work, and saves us from having to see the spam in the first place. Also, since the spam wouldn't even be on the forum for a second, spammers in general would be less tempted to spam here.

yeah, something has to be done... these attacks cripple the forum and all new "valid" posts are lost or buried in the spam.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: JavaLawyer on October 10, 2011, 06:05:02 AM
It looks like TDK has a new production method that will increase HDD platter density past 8TB: HDD Capacity (http://www.maximumpc.com/article/news/tdk_discovers_way_use_lasers_double_hard_disc_capacity)  ;D
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: fraggboy on October 10, 2011, 02:03:25 PM
The site admin on the forum I moderate on added another antispam measure.

When a potential member creates an account, it checks their IP and blocks all known spam proxy IP addresses.  So far, it's helping me out.  I know it's a pain deleting each and every post (*Most* of the time I can tell that they are there just to spam and don't have a lot of posts to delete).

He also implemented new members not being able to create a signature until they reach an undetermined amount of posts.

Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: JavaLawyer on October 10, 2011, 02:08:00 PM
. . . He also implemented new members not being able to create a signature until they reach an undetermined amount of posts.

I like the idea of delaying the signature -- that prevents the linking (and higher search engine ranking).
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: kargo27 on October 12, 2011, 07:03:24 AM
Do any of you guys follow a plant based, whole food diet?  I watched a documentary on Netflix last night called "Forks over Knives" and it was really enlightening.  There is tons of evidence to support a more vegan lifestyle and I think I'm going to try it.

A big misconception they said that "fed" to us (pun sort of intended) was that we can't get all the protein we needed from plant based foods.  They said it's nonsense.  There is actually an Ultimate Fighting Championship athlete who said he does the whole food, plant based diet and has much better recovery after workouts than when he ate animal based protein.  The evidence seems to be overwhelming that people who follow the diet are healthier and tremendously lower their chance of getting cancer, diabetes, and other diseases.

Plus, the government is lobbied by Big Agriculture (beef, chicken) to push their products to our kids and us.  This is nothing new, I mean all you have to do is follow the money and it's pretty obvious. 

The program looked at China, Japan, Indonesia, and other areas of the world that eat a plant based diet and showed the lower levels of heart disease, all types of cancer, etc.  It's really eye-opening.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: JavaLawyer on October 12, 2011, 07:12:55 AM
Do any of you guys follow a plant based, whole food diet?  I watched a documentary on Netflix last night called "Forks over Knives" and it was really enlightening.  There is tons of evidence to support a more vegan lifestyle and I think I'm going to try it.

A big misconception they said that "fed" to us (pun sort of intended) was that we can't get all the protein we needed from plant based foods.  They said it's nonsense.  There is actually an Ultimate Fighting Championship athlete who said he does the whole food, plant based diet and has much better recovery after workouts than when he ate animal based protein.  The evidence seems to be overwhelming that people who follow the diet are healthier and tremendously lower their chance of getting cancer, diabetes, and other diseases.

Plus, the government is lobbied by Big Agriculture (beef, chicken) to push their products to our kids and us.  This is nothing new, I mean all you have to do is follow the money and it's pretty obvious. 

The program looked at China, Japan, Indonesia, and other areas of the world that eat a plant based diet and showed the lower levels of heart disease, all types of cancer, etc.  It's really eye-opening.

One of the prevailing theories behind this dietary approach is that the human body doesn't have to work as hard to process food and extract energy. Since there's less strain on the organs, they last longer and aren't likely to break-down as quickly, resulting in a faster recovery time and longer lifespan. It's like putting cheap oil rather than premium in a car. The engine will last longer if properly cared for.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: JavaLawyer on October 12, 2011, 07:20:39 AM
Furry and I did some house cleaning in the Everybody's D-Link (http://forums.dlink.com/index.php?action=collapse;c=27;sa=collapse;sesc=1af88fe8d9a0f7a39dcc61ff8cb717bb#27) board. Old threads and polls dating back to 2007 are now closed and archived, leaving a clean slate for fresh content.

We created a new thread in Everybody's D-Link -> Software Features called Dlink FORUM Site improvements...What would you like to see improved? (http://forums.dlink.com/index.php?topic=41505.0). Please visit this new thread and post your thoughts, comments, and ideas on how to improve our community.

:) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :)

Post your thoughts here: Dlink FORUM Site improvements...What would you like to see improved? (http://forums.dlink.com/index.php?topic=41505.0)
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on October 12, 2011, 07:27:45 AM
Java, repost this in a new thread here and make it a sticky and lock it down. You might want to do this in all forums so others get more view of it.  ;)


Furry and I did some house cleaning in the Everybody's D-Link (http://forums.dlink.com/index.php?action=collapse;c=27;sa=collapse;sesc=1af88fe8d9a0f7a39dcc61ff8cb717bb#27) board. Old threads and polls dating back to 2007 are now closed and archived, leaving a clean slate for fresh content.

We created a new thread in Everybody's D-Link -> Software Features called Dlink FORUM Site improvements...What would you like to see improved? (http://forums.dlink.com/index.php?topic=41505.0). Please visit this new thread and post your thoughts, comments, and ideas on how to improve our community.

:) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :)
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on October 12, 2011, 07:30:19 AM
Or you could post a link under my sticky too ;D
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: JavaLawyer on October 12, 2011, 07:31:32 AM
Java, repost this in a new thread here and make it a sticky and lock it down. You might want to do this in all forums so others get more view of it.  ;)

Done. ;D
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on October 12, 2011, 07:32:11 AM
YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: kargo27 on October 12, 2011, 08:46:06 AM
One of the prevailing theories behind this dietary approach is that the human body doesn't have to work as hard to process food and extract energy. Since there's less strain on the organs, they last longer and aren't likely to break-down as quickly, resulting in a faster recovery time and longer lifespan. It's like putting cheap oil rather than premium in a car. The engine will last longer if properly cared for.

That makes sense.  And I use synthetic oil in our vehicles!   :D
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: fraggboy on October 13, 2011, 11:13:14 AM
That makes sense.  And I use synthetic oil in our vehicles!   :D

For the synthetic to work properly, you have to start using synthetic oil when the car is brand new.

And, I'm sure some people have purchased a used vehicle and 'think' they can help the car out by switching to synthetic oil.  It should stop wearing down the parts further, but I also think a lot of the damage has already been done.. :/

Does that pertain to our bodies as well?  If someone is knowledgeable with this, I would love to hear the answer.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: JavaLawyer on October 13, 2011, 11:25:56 AM
My analogy was lost in translation. Think of a complex gear-driven machine. The more strained the machine has to work, the quicker the gear teeth are worn down and the greater likelihood of mechanical breakdown. The body functions in a similar fashion. As the chemical complexity and quantity of food increases, the harder the organs have to work to process the food and extract nutrients and energy, increasing the likelihood of potential medical issues later in life.  :o
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: JavaLawyer on October 13, 2011, 11:28:47 AM
My analogy was lost in translation. Think of a complex gear-driven machine. The more strained the machine has to work, the quicker the gear teeth are worn down and the greater likelihood of mechanical breakdown. The body functions in a similar fashion. As the chemical complexity and quantity of food increases, the harder the organs have to work to process the food and extract nutrients and energy, increasing the likelihood of potential medical issues later in life.  :o

I'm reflecting on what I just posted. How did we make the transition from routers to this? ???  :o
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on October 13, 2011, 12:02:28 PM
What I was thinkin... ???
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: JavaLawyer on October 13, 2011, 01:43:53 PM
Back to business. . . .

It looks like Seagate will announce a 5 TB HDD at CES in January (http://www.maximumpc.com/article/news/will_seagate_unveil_5tb_hdd_ces_january).  ;D
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on October 13, 2011, 02:40:49 PM
Wow. To think, Peta is around the corner... ::)
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: fraggboy on October 13, 2011, 03:21:33 PM
What confusion here..  This is the only topic thread that can stray off-topic, but yet it's not allowed..


Hmm..   ???

I guess back 'on topic', who's all going to CES?  I will be there.

EDIT: Edited my wording..
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: Hard Harry on October 13, 2011, 04:08:39 PM
I think maybe he meant "back to something I care about". Heh.

There are some things we probably want to try to avoid: religion, politics, Pro choice/life, capital punishment, race, gender orientation, foreign affairs and everything else you see people fighting about on the news.  I think we have all done pretty good in that way though. ::nod::
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: fraggboy on October 13, 2011, 04:28:09 PM
I think maybe he meant "back to something I care about". Heh.

You may be right!  If I broken an 'undocumented' rule for the only OT thread, then please PM me the rules. Or better yet, post them so others don't do the same thing!


There are some things we probably want to try to avoid: religion, politics, Pro choice/life, capital punishment, race, gender orientation, foreign affairs and everything else you see people fighting about on the news.  I think we have all done pretty good in that way though. ::nod::

I totally agree with you on this.  I didn't think my question brushed any of those topics, but I could be wrong.   ::)
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: JavaLawyer on October 13, 2011, 05:12:02 PM
I didn't think my question brushed any of those topics, but I could be wrong.   ::)

Lighten up :)
You have to admit it's funny when a conversation shifts from routers -> diet -> car engines -> HDD capacity
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: fraggboy on October 13, 2011, 06:28:15 PM
ROFL..   ;D

It's very hilarious, but when members are limited to 1 thread, it should shift as wide as it has been going (Minus what topics HH mentioned above).    ;)

But seriously,  denying a member on changing the topic wasn't necessary, was it?  We are only allowed this one thread to ramble on about 'something'..

I was going to suggest about making a forum specific for OT posts (each member can start their own OT thread), but I don't know how that would go with all of the main forums D-Link has.  That would be quite a few new forums to police.

EDIT: I forgot to mention and say Thank You for explaining on how our bodies are more efficient with better food, ROFL..  ;D

Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: kargo27 on October 13, 2011, 06:29:35 PM
You may be right!  If I broken an 'undocumented' rule for the only OT thread, then please PM me the rules. Or better yet, post them so others don't do the same thing!


I totally agree with you on this.  I didn't think my question brushed any of those topics, but I could be wrong.   ::)

You didn't break any rules, brother and you're right, this is the OT thread and almost anything goes.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: JavaLawyer on October 14, 2011, 04:26:58 AM
I was going to suggest about making a forum specific for OT posts (each member can start their own OT thread), but I don't know how that would go with all of the main forums D-Link has.

Unfortunately the forum structure does not accommodate a catch-all for non-D-Link related discussions. I believe D-Link turned a blind eye to this thread because we've made a concerted effort to contain all discussions in this single thread. Quite often we'll have 2 or 3 active/concurrent conversations within this one thread (parallel processing?), jumping between topics because we don't have the latitude to create multiple threads.

Furry and I are in the process of re-tasking the "Everybody's D-Link" board to accommodate a limited number of non-product related discussions, but even those must be tightly focused and controlled as we don't want to unwittingly use the board for an unintended/unsanctioned purpose.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: JavaLawyer on October 14, 2011, 06:10:14 AM
In other news. . . .

Contrary to what we were discussing a month or so ago, HP decided to hold on to its PC business HP PC Business (http://www.maximumpc.com/article/news/hp_likely_keep_pc_division_dell_nods_approvingly). They can't seem to make up their mind.  :-\
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on October 14, 2011, 07:24:55 AM
 ::) I presume thats due to the new CEO that has taken over.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: JavaLawyer on October 14, 2011, 12:23:01 PM
Please take a moment and participate in our User Experience Poll!!! (http://forums.dlink.com/index.php?topic=41545.0)
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: kargo27 on October 14, 2011, 12:49:54 PM
Please take a moment and participate in our User Experience Poll!!! (http://forums.dlink.com/index.php?topic=41545.0)

Voted!  Do I get a T-shirt?   ;D
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: Hard Harry on October 14, 2011, 05:32:28 PM
Yes, 3rd drawer down. You should have 5-8. Happy birthday!!
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: kargo27 on October 14, 2011, 06:35:37 PM
Yes, 3rd drawer down. You should have 5-8. Happy birthday!!

 ;D
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: Hard Harry on October 14, 2011, 09:45:00 PM
Well its official.

http://www.engadget.com/2011/10/14/asus-to-launch-5-new-routers-moving-data-never-looked-so-good/

I wonder where the ROG design went. Makes me wonder if I should wait, maybe the ROG will come out later? Looks like I have to call Asus again. LOL
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on October 15, 2011, 08:48:18 AM
EEEEWWWA  >:(

Well its official.

http://www.engadget.com/2011/10/14/asus-to-launch-5-new-routers-moving-data-never-looked-so-good/

I wonder where the ROG design went. Makes me wonder if I should wait, maybe the ROG will come out later? Looks like I have to call Asus again. LOL
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: Hard Harry on October 15, 2011, 08:53:46 AM
Im still going to keep my Dlink routers. I have like 7 of them. LOL. And the Asus forum is pretty bad. But I am a geek first, Dlink fan boy second.  I will stop posting though if its bothering people. Its all gooooood
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on October 15, 2011, 08:57:36 AM
LOL ok fan boy. Glad ur still hanging around and not too tired from all this work here.  ::)
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: fraggboy on October 15, 2011, 10:23:55 AM
I hope they will unveil them @ 2012 CES so I can see them up front and check them out closer.  I'm like you FN.  I'm pretty happy with the 4500.  No reason to 'jump ship'. . . yet.  ;D
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: XS on October 16, 2011, 01:57:11 PM
I played BO last night with with 2 xboxes and 3 people. God I hate that game.  >:(

What?  That is crazy talk! ;D  That game is the best one! ;)
I was on for a couple games last night and had to stop in between games (in a lobby) for a few minutes, when I started playing again an invite popped up from you but when I pressed the big X button, it was gone, weird.....
Maybe because I was sitting idle in lobby???
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on October 16, 2011, 03:59:55 PM
I actually have a better time playing MW2  ;D Ya I sent you a invite.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: XS on October 16, 2011, 08:31:28 PM
Yeah I knew you sent me invite but what did not make sense is the prompt popped up indicating so but when I pressed the big X to accept it was not there anymore.  I think because I stopped playing and was static in a lobby.  No big deal just thought it was odd that it was gone.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: JavaLawyer on October 17, 2011, 08:53:13 AM
I pretty much had to give up gaming. . . don't have the time anymore (and it's eating away at me!).  :(
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on October 17, 2011, 09:04:36 AM
You just need to make sometime to play wif us SIR!  ;D
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: JavaLawyer on October 17, 2011, 09:08:15 AM
You just need to make sometime to play wif us SIR!  ;D

It's a very slippery slope. . . Once I start there's no turning back.
Must resist the dark side.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on October 17, 2011, 09:15:28 AM
Come to the light side Obi Wan, come to the light side.  ;D
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on October 17, 2011, 09:34:54 AM
Wow... >:(

http://jobs.aol.com/articles/2011/10/14/woman-told-to-stop-giving-dying-co-worker-cpr/?ref=mostpopular (http://jobs.aol.com/articles/2011/10/14/woman-told-to-stop-giving-dying-co-worker-cpr/?ref=mostpopular)
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: JavaLawyer on October 17, 2011, 10:15:26 AM
Wow... >:(

http://jobs.aol.com/articles/2011/10/14/woman-told-to-stop-giving-dying-co-worker-cpr/?ref=mostpopular (http://jobs.aol.com/articles/2011/10/14/woman-told-to-stop-giving-dying-co-worker-cpr/?ref=mostpopular)

I think I've got you beat: Sesame Street Hacked (http://news.cnet.com/8301-1009_3-20121144-83/hackers-add-****-to-sesame-street-youtube-channel/)
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on October 17, 2011, 10:18:55 AM
Why I don't GOOGLE anything or use GOOGLE anything.  >:(

 
I think I've got you beat: Sesame Street (http://news.cnet.com/8301-1009_3-20121144-83/hackers-add-****-to-sesame-street-youtube-channel/)
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: JavaLawyer on October 17, 2011, 10:25:50 AM
Why I don't GOOGLE anything or use GOOGLE anything.  >:(

I actually read that story on the news LCD in the elevator on the way to work this morning. No Google required. :)
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: Hard Harry on October 17, 2011, 10:46:15 AM
Why I don't GOOGLE anything or use GOOGLE anything.  >:(

 

Really? Wow. I couldn't live without Google. And come on Furry, your way too cool to be using AOL. Please don't tell me you still use the AOL client. ::cringe:: We can save you..we have the technology! ::grin::

<3 <3 <3
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: JavaLawyer on October 17, 2011, 10:51:58 AM
Really? Wow. I couldn't live without Google. And come on Furry, your way too cool to be using AOL. Please don't tell me you still use the AOL client. ::cringe:: We can save you..we have the technology! ::grin::

<3 <3 <3

Furry is going retro.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on October 17, 2011, 11:02:25 AM
Hey, Netscape was way better then chrome!!! Never will use chrome. I don't subscribe to what people think is the norm considering chrome is filled with back doors and general B.S. that Google seems the think users really need. And Dogpile blows away google. I also don't like it when people call searching and using search engines, "google or googling. I maybe going retro Java, however what I use, WORKS with out problems and the B.S.  ;D

Ok, I'm off my soap box. Have a nice day.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: JavaLawyer on October 17, 2011, 11:13:25 AM
I also don't like it when people call searching and using search engines, "google or googling...

Ditto that. I have to bite my tongue every time I hear someone use "Google" as a verb.  >:(
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on October 17, 2011, 11:18:56 AM
Exactly.  >:( People are lazy.

It's called "DO A SEARCH or SEARCH THE WEB!"
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: JavaLawyer on October 17, 2011, 11:21:50 AM
Exactly.  >:( People are lazy.

It's called "DO A SEARCH or SEARCH THE WEB!"

We've being doing a lot of "D-Linking" in the forum today  :P
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on October 17, 2011, 11:28:17 AM
 >:( Stop that.  :P
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: Hard Harry on October 17, 2011, 12:01:27 PM
Exactly.  >:( People are lazy.

It's called "DO A SEARCH or SEARCH THE WEB!"

I find that google search is far more intuitive then Yahoo or...::shrudder:: Bing. When looking for a PDF or instruction set, I can get it as the top 3, which saves me time. Plus Google offers so many abilities its not even funny. GoogleDocs? Google Translate? Google Maps, Calander, Shopping with Checkout, reader, Sketchit, namebench, sending SMS, Talk and Voice, news and Chrome. Do I need to go on?

But I think TheOatmeal says it best.

http://theoatmeal.com/comics/email_address
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: fraggboy on October 17, 2011, 02:17:49 PM
I find that google search is far more intuitive then Yahoo or...::shrudder:: Bing. When looking for a PDF or instruction set, I can get it as the top 3, which saves me time. Plus Google offers so many abilities its not even funny. GoogleDocs? Google Translate? Google Maps, Calander, Shopping with Checkout, reader, Sketchit, namebench, sending SMS, Talk and Voice, news and Chrome. Do I need to go on?

But I think TheOatmeal says it best.

http://theoatmeal.com/comics/email_address

IMHO, I have to agree.

ROFL on what TheOatmeal has to say.  TY for sharing that. ;D
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on October 17, 2011, 02:40:11 PM
Well google has some good stuff. I just don't subscribe to there marketing and ways. I have other things that do just as good, if not better then they and for what i need it for. So, you may go and google if you like. I plan to search the web.  ;D
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: JavaLawyer on October 17, 2011, 02:45:32 PM
. . .you may go and google if you like. I plan to search the web.  ;D

Reminds me of PC advertising in the late 1990s. Companies often advertised PCs with this phrase: "Comes with the Internet". Remember that? I always thought, wow, that must be a fraggin' huge HDD.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: fraggboy on October 17, 2011, 02:47:35 PM
ROFL.. "The Innernette on one CD".


Bonus points goes to who posts what that's from (And doesn't use a search engine)..    :P

EDIT: Spelling.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: JavaLawyer on October 17, 2011, 02:50:28 PM
ROFL.. "The Innernet on one CD".


Bonus points goes to who posts what that's from (And doesn't use a search engine)..    :P

How about that great book, the "Internet Yellow Pages". Outdated the nanosecond the idea was conceived. :o
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on October 17, 2011, 02:52:48 PM
Ya but how many times did you use it before Internet and cell phone?  ::)
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: Hard Harry on October 17, 2011, 03:02:20 PM
ROFL.. "The Innernette on one CD".


Bonus points goes to who posts what that's from (And doesn't use a search engine)..    :P

EDIT: Spelling.

You know how many times I would get calls at my old job asking me "If the internet was down". So many times I wanted to say something like "Yes, someone tripped over a wire and it got knocked over. We will have it up as soon as possible, but it is very heavy after all" LOL
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: kargo27 on October 17, 2011, 03:41:32 PM
You know how many times I would get calls at my old job asking me "If the internet was down". So many times I wanted to say something like "Yes, someone tripped over a wire and it got knocked over. We will have it up as soon as possible, but it is very heavy after all" LOL

ROFL!!!!   :D
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: fraggboy on October 17, 2011, 03:43:27 PM
You know how many times I would get calls at my old job asking me "If the internet was down". So many times I wanted to say something like "Yes, someone tripped over a wire and it got knocked over. We will have it up as soon as possible, but it is very heavy after all" LOL

Way too funny!!  There were certain times I wanted to let people know that the issue was caused by PEBKAC.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: Hard Harry on October 17, 2011, 04:55:05 PM
Hehe. Yea, we use the term 10T errors all the time. As in ID-10T.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: fraggboy on October 17, 2011, 06:25:39 PM
Muhahahah.. Only if they knew..
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on October 17, 2011, 08:15:07 PM
More like PEBKAC.  ;D
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: kargo27 on October 17, 2011, 08:52:18 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_error (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_error)

 ;D
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: Hard Harry on October 18, 2011, 01:44:49 AM
Is there seriously no way of having a 360 headset without having a cord connected to the controller? What is the point of having a wireless controller, and then needing a wire to your mic? Or, in my case, I want to go wired. So I have to go HDMI from 360 to TV, audio connectors from 360 to Amp, USB from AMP to 360, and wire from controller to amp? On my PS3 I can use any bluetooth or driver-less USB headset. Why was this not fixed by the...5th version of the 360? ::end rant::
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: kargo27 on October 18, 2011, 06:20:45 AM
Is there seriously no way of having a 360 headset without having a cord connected to the controller? What is the point of having a wireless controller, and then needing a wire to your mic? Or, in my case, I want to go wired. So I have to go HDMI from 360 to TV, audio connectors from 360 to Amp, USB from AMP to 360, and wire from controller to amp? On my PS3 I can use any bluetooth or driver-less USB headset. Why was this not fixed by the...5th version of the 360? ::end rant::

I could be wrong but I think Turtle Beach makes a wireless headset.  I use a wireless earpiece made by Microsoft and got it back in 2009.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on October 18, 2011, 07:18:01 AM
HARRY, TRUST ME, go get a TurtleBeach man, you won't be disappointed. I have one.  ;)
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: JavaLawyer on October 18, 2011, 07:33:59 AM
Router question. . . Do any D-Link routers have the ability to use MAC address filtering to add devices to a network? My DIR-615 only has exclusionary filtering, which creates a list of devices to exclude from the network -- which IMHO has limited value since it's easier to develop a complete list of devices with access than to develop a list of everyone you want to keep out. ???

I was surprised when my DIR couldn't do this, as it's a common feature on Linksys and Netgear.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on October 18, 2011, 07:41:28 AM
Far as I know it's only meant to manage devices on or off the network depending on what you set up for each MAC. 
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: JavaLawyer on October 18, 2011, 07:48:33 AM
Far as I know it's only meant to manage devices on or off the network depending on what you set up for each MAC. 

Hmm. The DIR-615 only has the ability (at least w/ my current FW) to exclude devices based on MAC. . . which I always thought was odd. Was curious if newer D-Link routers expanded the functionality to "include" ???
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on October 18, 2011, 08:17:11 AM
You can take a look at see here what the 4500 does:
http://www.support.dlink.com/emulators/dgl4500/121NA/MAC_Address_Filter.html (http://www.support.dlink.com/emulators/dgl4500/121NA/MAC_Address_Filter.html)
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: JavaLawyer on October 18, 2011, 08:25:43 AM
You can take a look at see here what the 4500 does:
http://www.support.dlink.com/emulators/dgl4500/121NA/MAC_Address_Filter.html (http://www.support.dlink.com/emulators/dgl4500/121NA/MAC_Address_Filter.html)

Yeah, that's what I was looking for.  ;D
Too bad the DIR-615 doesn't support that feature.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on October 18, 2011, 08:38:59 AM
I've learned that the 600 series is a pretty low end router and I feel IMO that marketing has something to do with what features went into these routers. They are great routers, don't get me wrong, I think it's just that they were meant for low management and configuration for the home users. If you want and need more features and management, then something better would be available. I got a 4500 still... ::)

Yeah, that's what I was looking for.  ;D
Too bad the DIR-615 doesn't support that feature.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: JavaLawyer on October 18, 2011, 08:58:08 AM
I've learned that the 600 series is a pretty low end router and I feel IMO that marketing has something to do with what features went into these routers. They are great routers, don't get me wrong, I think it's just that they were meant for low management and configuration for the home users. If you want and need more features and management, then something better would be available. I got a 4500 still... ::)


I'm the first to admit that of all the routers (and brands) I've cycled through, my DIR-615 is the ONLY router that's ever worked well for me and it's the MOST STABLE router I've ever owned. Before purchasing a DIR-615 I used to cringe every time I had to access my network, not knowing if I was going to have access to my NW devices or Internet connectivity.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on October 18, 2011, 09:16:59 AM
I Think the 615 is a great router and most of DLinks are. I do believe, IMO, that there are a few that aren't.  ::) However, you can ask others about there experiences here and there and you might find that trusting others opinions about other routers should help with your concerns about using other routers here. And besides, we got your back.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: Hard Harry on October 18, 2011, 11:57:55 AM
Yeah, that's what I was looking for.  ;D
Too bad the DIR-615 doesn't support that feature.

Yours doesn't? What hardware and firmware? The HW C running 3.1 seems to have it.

 Click here for emulator (http://www.support.dlink.com/emulators/dir615_revC/310NA/adv_filters_mac.htm)

Basically either works in Off, White list, Black list. Meaning, in white list mode, it stops everyone except those you add to the list, in Black list mode, it blocks only those Mac address you add. The later isn't very useful security wise, because all you have to do is change your mac address, or just use a wireless adapter and your in. White list is better, but remeber, your only keeping them from aquiring DHCP. If they are set to static, I don't think MAC filtering does anything. Also, if they already have a DHCP lease, it doesn't do anything, not even at renewal. Just FYI
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: JavaLawyer on October 18, 2011, 12:15:54 PM
Yours doesn't? What hardware and firmware? The HW C running 3.1 seems to have it.

My hardware version is C1 -- it's on my signature below ;D
Firmware version predates the emulator.

The main thing that gets me with the MAC address filtering is that (at least on the DIR-615), the filtering applies to wired and wireless. Every other brand of router has a wireless MAC address filter, which is more useful on a home network which typically has 100% control over the wired ports, but 0% control over wireless leaching.

I've had this router for a couple of years now and ended up using WEP, so the MAC filtering isn't really important at the moment, but it was when I first purchased the router.

No way am I touching the FW on a stable router (as per Furry's advice).
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: fraggboy on October 18, 2011, 12:34:40 PM
The 4500 MAC address filtering happens on wired/wireless also.  On my Juniper SSG-5 the MAC address filtering would only effect wireless and not touch the wired.

When I first configured the 4500, I was hooked up via wired to it and locked myself out, ROFL.  I had to reset it and made sure to add my wired addy in..


You are using. . . WEP?  **Shudders**
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: JavaLawyer on October 18, 2011, 12:42:54 PM
The 4500 MAC address filtering happens on wired/wireless also.  On my Juniper SSG-5 the MAC address filtering would only effect wireless and not touch the wired.

When I first configured the 4500, I was hooked up via wired to it and locked myself out, ROFL.  I had to reset it and made sure to add my wired addy in..

I did the same thing an hour after I bought the router. Plugged it in and immediately started MAC filtering to close out the world. Little did I know that I locked myself out. . . Hard reset to factory defaults.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on October 18, 2011, 01:33:19 PM
Silly people. You can your Mac Filtering. Buh.  ::)
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: XS on October 19, 2011, 07:10:03 AM
Is there seriously no way of having a 360 headset without having a cord connected to the controller? What is the point of having a wireless controller, and then needing a wire to your mic? Or, in my case, I want to go wired. So I have to go HDMI from 360 to TV, audio connectors from 360 to Amp, USB from AMP to 360, and wire from controller to amp? On my PS3 I can use any bluetooth or driver-less USB headset. Why was this not fixed by the...5th version of the 360? ::end rant::

I am confused???  MS has a completely wireless mic but is not surround sound or even in stereo, just a wireless mic.
I second what furry said, I have Turtle beaches X-41 wireless surround sound headset, however it is wired to the controller.  I think MS has some patent on that wireless part so no one else can use it unless it's backed by MS.

TB has a new completely wireless headset but is spendy:
http://www.engadget.com/2011/06/07/turtle-beachs-xp500-headset-brings-totally-wireless-7-1-to-the/

There are a couple of others but I do not know off hand what model number. 

How much do you want to spend for a headset?

My set up is like this and I have full Dolby Digital surround on the 360.
360>HDMI>TV>TV's Optical out to TB transmitter>to receiver.

Depending on what TV you have, you can use the TV optical out for Dolby digital by changing a couple of settings on the 360.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on October 19, 2011, 07:30:31 AM
Ya, there nice and all. I guess if TB or someone could make the voice connection wireless to the controller that would make it fully "wireless." However thats the rub man, thats MS territory. MS would have might have to redesign the controller or some how allow the voice to be sent via the external headset thru that device and thru the USB connection. Its' all semantics. It works. Harry will just have to put up and shut up like the rest of us.  :P

Kidding Harry  ;D
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: XS on October 19, 2011, 07:40:46 AM
Hey Furry it was good to get a couple of games in with you and your friends,  too bad we were lagging like crazy on Launch, I hate that map, I always seem to have more bad games than good games on it.  I had to leave after that much but I think you left too???

Anyway, BO always seem to have more lag when playing with a full party, I have a theory on that but that is a discussion on its own, lol.

Still my favorite COD tile and I am looking forward to MW3!
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on October 19, 2011, 07:48:34 AM
Ya, I still hate BO.  >:( LOL. just not as good and MW2. I still have a great time on MW2, even if I'm doing bad. Ya, I'm looking forward to MW3 man. I really hope they have made it good and def better then BO.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: XS on October 19, 2011, 08:57:51 AM
Yeah in MW2 with stopping power, it is like playing hardcore on core, lol.
I played some MW2 a couple of weeks ago and just felt lost, what gun to use, what secondary, which button does what, lol.
When I played MW2, I only played hardcore and now I only play core so all my classes in MW2 were set up to play hardcore.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on October 19, 2011, 08:59:25 AM
Lets play MW2 sometime then.  ;D
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: XS on October 19, 2011, 09:41:54 AM
What? you enjoy seeing your team mates fail? lol. Nah I am not that bad. :D

Harry,
here is another headset:
http://www.trittontechnologies.com/prod/warhead.asp
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on October 19, 2011, 10:34:31 AM
No just like playing MW2 over BO.  ;D
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: kargo27 on October 19, 2011, 11:15:47 AM
Here's the earpiece I use....... http://www.google.com/products/catalog?q=xbox+live+headset+wireless&oe=utf-8&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a&um=1&ie=UTF-8&tbm=shop&cid=18432680934355751796&sa=X&ei=qxOfTrvGNaiGsgKJ042yAw&ved=0CEQQ8wIwAA (http://www.google.com/products/catalog?q=xbox+live+headset+wireless&oe=utf-8&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a&um=1&ie=UTF-8&tbm=shop&cid=18432680934355751796&sa=X&ei=qxOfTrvGNaiGsgKJ042yAw&ved=0CEQQ8wIwAA)
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on October 19, 2011, 11:17:37 AM
Ya thats what I had been using, before TurtleBeach. Karl, if you can get a TB headset, please try one. You'll wonder why you waited so long.  ;D
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: Hard Harry on October 19, 2011, 11:47:20 AM
I hate wireless headsets. My point is Microsoft specifically made it propreitary so they could make more money. That is why you don't see 3rd party headsets that connect direct to the Xbox, and why even wired have to be connected to the controller. Even the best Xbox controllers out there require a bluetooth dangle to be connected to the controller. Oi
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: JavaLawyer on October 19, 2011, 12:17:08 PM
Here's a compilation of gaming headset reviews at MaximumPC: Headset Reviews (http://www.maximumpc.com/articles/reviews/hardware/headphones)
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on October 19, 2011, 01:11:09 PM
Wow, shame the Sennheisers are for smaller heads. I loves me Sennheiser.  8)
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: kargo27 on October 19, 2011, 03:10:44 PM
Ya thats what I had been using, before TurtleBeach. Karl, if you can get a TB headset, please try one. You'll wonder why you waited so long.  ;D

I can ask for one for Christmas.   ;D
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: kargo27 on October 19, 2011, 03:16:20 PM
I hate wireless headsets. My point is Microsoft specifically made it propreitary so they could make more money. That is why you don't see 3rd party headsets that connect direct to the Xbox, and why even wired have to be connected to the controller. Even the best Xbox controllers out there require a bluetooth dangle to be connected to the controller. Oi

I used to think that it was all about the money, too.  Then I got a PS3 and had all kinds of quirky quality issues with 3rd party products that I didn't have with XBOX.  These were wireless earpieces.  Granted, I should have bought a Sony earpiece and tried it out.  I'm sure it would have performed much better.

So, I won't deny that it is about the money.  They are a business looking to profit and I can absolutely see that.  But I think it's also about control and control of what works with their system.  I rarely have any quality issues with MS products designed for XBOX.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: Hard Harry on October 20, 2011, 01:27:22 AM
To me its not about money. I don't mind spending money. Its about choice. So for me to have a wireless headset, I either have to get a cheap over the ear one, or I need to have a wire dangling from the middle of my controller. I don't have to make that choice with a PS3. Any USB headset that doesn't require a driver will work with it. Any bluetooth will work with it. Do some of those choices suck? Ofcourse. But thats where research comes in. If I wanted to be told what to buy, I would own a Mac. :-p
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: kargo27 on October 20, 2011, 05:55:26 AM
To me its not about money. I don't mind spending money. Its about choice. So for me to have a wireless headset, I either have to get a cheap over the ear one, or I need to have a wire dangling from the middle of my controller. I don't have to make that choice with a PS3. Any USB headset that doesn't require a driver will work with it. Any bluetooth will work with it. Do some of those choices suck? Ofcourse. But thats where research comes in. If I wanted to be told what to buy, I would own a Mac. :-p

LOL!!!  Very true!

I look at it this way.  Owning an XBOX is like being a child to a parent.  You don't have to worry about your safety because someone's looking out for you, but you lose a lot of freedom in that relationship because your "Parent" is pretty strict.   :D
Title: UBEE vs SB6120
Post by: kargo27 on October 20, 2011, 06:04:25 AM
Charter's standard cable modem is a UBEE (Ambit) U10C035.  Per Furry's advice I bought an SB6120.  Every now and then I'll switch them out to see if there's any difference in the two.

Each time I switch them out I have to register the "new" one.

Well, just last night after using the UBEE for several weeks I switched back to the SB6120.  Man, I can really tell a difference in the speed of the two.  Web pages load so much faster with the SB6120.  I didn't think there would be much of a difference but the SB6120 really handles the data so much better!
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on October 20, 2011, 07:10:29 AM
Hey now, I own 2 macs and love them even more then my Windows devices. Lets not go there Harry.  >:(

To me its not about money. I don't mind spending money. Its about choice. So for me to have a wireless headset, I either have to get a cheap over the ear one, or I need to have a wire dangling from the middle of my controller. I don't have to make that choice with a PS3. Any USB headset that doesn't require a driver will work with it. Any bluetooth will work with it. Do some of those choices suck? Ofcourse. But thats where research comes in. If I wanted to be told what to buy, I would own a Mac. :-p
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: kargo27 on October 20, 2011, 01:12:55 PM
Hey now, I own 2 macs and love them even more than my Windows devices. Let's not go there Harry.  >:(


Easy!   Eaaaaaaaaaaaaaaasy now!  :P   :D
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on October 20, 2011, 02:00:00 PM
 ::)
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: XS on October 20, 2011, 02:19:47 PM
(http://thedemotivators.com/wp-content/uploads/original/2010_03/mac-vs-pc.jpg)
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on October 20, 2011, 02:35:50 PM
 ;D too funny man.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: fraggboy on October 20, 2011, 02:39:03 PM
(http://www.robotreviews.com/sites/default/files/images/macvspc.jpg)
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on October 20, 2011, 02:49:49 PM
Wow, who's telling who to they can't do what?
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1158905/Microsoft-boss-Bill-Gates-bans-children-using-Apple-products--wife-admits-shed-like-iPhone.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1158905/Microsoft-boss-Bill-Gates-bans-children-using-Apple-products--wife-admits-shed-like-iPhone.html)

Too Funny.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: fraggboy on October 20, 2011, 02:52:04 PM
There is bashing on both sides. It's ALL fun.  :P
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: XS on October 20, 2011, 04:39:39 PM
Wow, who's telling who to they can't do what?
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1158905/Microsoft-boss-Bill-Gates-bans-children-using-Apple-products--wife-admits-shed-like-iPhone.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1158905/Microsoft-boss-Bill-Gates-bans-children-using-Apple-products--wife-admits-shed-like-iPhone.html)

Too Funny.

That's awesome, too bad I would do the same thing if I were him, lol.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: LookIntoMyEyees on October 20, 2011, 07:19:33 PM
I used to think that it was all about the money, too.  Then I got a PS3 and had all kinds of quirky quality issues with 3rd party products that I didn't have with XBOX. These were wireless earpieces.  Granted, I should have bought a Sony earpiece and tried it out.  I'm sure it would have performed much better.

So, I won't deny that it is about the money.  They are a business looking to profit and I can absolutely see that.  But I think it's also about control and control of what works with their system.  I rarely have any quality issues with MS products designed for XBOX.

You don't have any quality issues with MS product because they are Proprietary thus they must work or no money, a lot of negative press and customer complains for them and since the majority of the $$ MS makes comes from Proprietary hardware accessory etc so at the end of the day they must make it work. Also it don't matter if you use a Sony earpiece or third party earpiece because Sony uses One standard and that is Bluetooth. Just make sure the earpiece are compatible with Bluetooth 2.0 (EDR). So it is dependent on the quality of the earpiece you buy.

Wow, who's telling who to they can't do what?
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1158905/Microsoft-boss-Bill-Gates-bans-children-using-Apple-products--wife-admits-shed-like-iPhone.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1158905/Microsoft-boss-Bill-Gates-bans-children-using-Apple-products--wife-admits-shed-like-iPhone.html)

Too Funny.

 Yea of course, Bill probably hates Jobs. Steve Jobs had this to say about Bill gates

"Bill is basically unimaginative and has never invented anything, which is why I think he's more comfortable now in philanthropy than technology. He just shamelessly ripped off other people's ideas."

 Ouch that must have made Bill angry.

Ps Xbox is all about the money, nothing more nothing less.

--
Chris
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: Hard Harry on October 20, 2011, 10:35:37 PM
Hey now, I own 2 macs and love them even more then my Windows devices. Lets not go there Harry.  >:(


I am not saying Macs are bad. I have a Ipod Touch myself.  I am saying you are locked into what hardware you use when you have a Mac. For example, I can not build my own PC and install Mac OS on it, lawfully anyway. Thats one of the main reasons I don't use Macs. I like building my own hardware.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: Hard Harry on October 20, 2011, 11:02:50 PM
"ou don't have any quality issues with MS product because they are Proprietary thus they must work or no money, a lot of negative press and customer complains for them and since the majority of the $$ MS makes comes from Proprietary hardware accessory etc so at the end of the day they must make it work. Also it don't matter if you use a Sony earpiece or third party earpiece because Sony uses One standard and that is Bluetooth. Just make sure the earpiece are compatible with Bluetooth 2.0 (EDR). So it is dependent on the quality of the earpiece you buy."

Ok, first, everything I am about to say is said in good jest. Not angry. Love ya guys :-)

I don't see how the argument that Microsoft wants more quality control. They lost that after the millionth red ring of death through..5 design changes? Plus, I don't think Microsoft cares anything about press. Microsoft could litterly flick off the entire world, and people would still buy Xbox's and OS from them like mad. And they know that. Look at how quick they are to ban..Furry, can I have a witness? They are ice cold giants.

Second, bluetooth isn't Sony Tech. I don't think Sony is even part of the Bluetooth CID. Xbox could have easily used it for their Xbox 360. Not only would it have made it easier for 3rd parties, it would have made it easier to sell their controllers to PC users. I think it was just a simple bad design choice.

3rd, even if were not talking about wireless, just wired, why do I have to run my headphones through my controller? Why can't they use the USB ports part of the Xbox? Sure, if they make wireless only work with the headsets they make, they make more money, but wired? Do they even sell wired headpieces? I thought they just came free. So again, I just see it as lack of looking at the big picture.  This would increase sound quality, battery life on the controller, less wires, and cost almost no overhead. It would be a system update, firmware update at worst.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: XS on October 21, 2011, 07:05:01 AM
Dang Harry, you make me almost want to sell my Xbox. :)
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on October 21, 2011, 07:09:15 AM
I thought the same thing too Harry and I still enjoy both worlds, however I've learned over the years and come to accept that with Macs, at least the towers, there are some customizaions for them. And there are some upgrades you can do on the LTs, however with it comes down to it. There OSs fit the HW very nicely and it works very well and once your acutally working with the OS and doing what users should be doing, tinking with the HW, is kind of takes a back seat. I guess I'm getting older too and don't have an need to tinker as much as I used to. I do like the Macs, ever since i've been using them, is nice to just hop on and do work.  ;D


To each his own.

I am not saying Macs are bad. I have a Ipod Touch myself.  I am saying you are locked into what hardware you use when you have a Mac. For example, I can not build my own PC and install Mac OS on it, lawfully anyway. Thats one of the main reasons I don't use Macs. I like building my own hardware.
Title: New addition to the garage...
Post by: FurryNutz on October 21, 2011, 07:38:26 AM
 ;D

(http://i1195.photobucket.com/albums/aa396/furrynutz740il/Picture-1.jpg)
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: JavaLawyer on October 21, 2011, 08:57:48 AM
. . . with Macs, at least the towers, there are some customizaions for them. And there are some upgrades you can do on the LT

Yes, you can put stickers on the case  ;D

Seriously though, I appreciate Macs as well. . . They have their strengths and weaknesses like any product/technology. Comparing Windows/PC/Macs is not an apples-to-apples comparison (pardon the pun).
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on October 21, 2011, 08:58:51 AM
Yes, you can put stickers on the case  ;D

Seriously though, I appreciate Macs as well. . . They have their strengths and weaknesses like any product/technology. Comparing Windows/PC/Macs is not an apples-to-apples comparison (pardon the pun).
::)
Title: Re: New addition to the garage...
Post by: fraggboy on October 21, 2011, 10:52:19 AM
;D

(http://i1195.photobucket.com/albums/aa396/furrynutz740il/Picture-1.jpg)

Is this yours?
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on October 21, 2011, 11:06:22 AM
It wandered into my garage yesterday.  ::)
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: fraggboy on October 21, 2011, 11:20:44 AM
Heck, if you don't have room in your garage, I have plenty of space for it in mine. :D
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on October 21, 2011, 11:27:34 AM
I think this bike is too much for you to handle sir.  :o
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: LookIntoMyEyees on October 21, 2011, 11:36:03 AM
"Sony uses One standard and that is Bluetooth. Just make sure the earpiece are compatible with Bluetooth 2.0 (EDR). So it is dependent on the quality of the earpiece you buy."


Second, bluetooth isn't Sony Tech. I don't think Sony is even part of the Bluetooth CID. Xbox could have easily used it for their Xbox 360. Not only would it have made it easier for 3rd parties, it would have made it easier to sell their controllers to PC users. I think it was just a simple bad design choice.

 As you can see I never mentioned it was Sony tech, I said it was a standard they use, thus implying that it was an industry standard in which they use to easily get devices to communicate with each other. Sony isn't btw.

--
Chris
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: fraggboy on October 21, 2011, 11:38:12 AM
I think this bike is too much for you to handle sir.  :o

Why do you say that?
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on October 21, 2011, 11:51:22 AM
Just kidding with ya. hehe.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: fraggboy on October 21, 2011, 11:55:05 AM
I was about to say, ROFL.. I'm a guy that can handle a big bike. 

Granted, there are some men that would have a difficult time due to their physical size.
Title: Re: New addition to the garage...
Post by: Hard Harry on October 21, 2011, 11:59:34 AM
;D


What was that about getting too old to tinker? Whooooos havin' a MLC? Heheh
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: Hard Harry on October 21, 2011, 12:22:42 PM
Yes, you can put stickers on the case  ;D

Seriously though, I appreciate Macs as well. . . They have their strengths and weaknesses like any product/technology. Comparing Windows/PC/Macs is not an apples-to-apples comparison (pardon the pun).
Apples? Don't you know what the Iphone is?

::ringringring::

BANANA PHONE!

PS. I have mad respect for Power mac users. Hack the Mac!
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: JavaLawyer on October 21, 2011, 12:44:55 PM
Apples? Don't you know what the Iphone is?

::ringringring::

BANANA PHONE!

PS. I have mad respect for Power mac users. Hack the Mac!

Well, I didn't want to say "bananas-to-bananas comparison". That wouldn't make sense, now would it?  ;D
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: Hard Harry on October 21, 2011, 11:07:13 PM
I like to eat..eat..eat...Apples and Bananaaaa...

Its been one of those days. Found out the 4500 I got for my Ex went DOA. To be fair though, I blame the users, not the router. Did you know you can use ethernet to string a router up between your bookcase and desk? ::facepalm:: Poor little router never had a chance.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: XS on October 22, 2011, 06:57:04 AM
No good Harry! are you going to pick up another DGL-4500 or something else?
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: kargo27 on October 22, 2011, 08:39:41 AM
I like to eat..eat..eat...Apples and Bananaaaa...

Its been one of those days. Found out the 4500 I got for my Ex went DOA. To be fair though, I blame the users, not the router. Did you know you can use ethernet to string a router up between your bookcase and desk? ::facepalm:: Poor little router never had a chance.

Wait, whaaa?  I'm confused.  How was it setup?
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: Hard Harry on October 22, 2011, 08:51:47 AM
Probably something else. If no better reason it will allow me to learn some new hardware. I have it between these three. (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Productcompare.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=100010076%20600028008%20600028012&IsNodeId=1&bop=And&ShowDeactivatedMark=False&CompareItemList=145|33-127-215^33-127-215-TS%2C33-162-031^33-162-031-TS%2C33-320-038^33-320-038-TS) Thoughts?

It was set up perfectly. I bought them all new top of the line shielded CAT6 ethernet, a Tripp Lite ISOBAR4ULTRA 4 surge protector, a 450Mb Trendnet USB gaming adapter, the whole gambit. Had it plugged into its own electrical outlet, all the wires nice and neat, network configuration planned and recorded both hard and soft copy. What I didn't account for was the stupidity of the user whose room I put it in.  She must have let it fall off the book shelf too many times..or spilled soda on it or something. She called me up today and told me it wouldn't even power on.  Theres more to it then that though. I will spare you the drama.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: kargo27 on October 22, 2011, 09:41:03 AM
Probably something else. If no better reason it will allow me to learn some new hardware. I have it between these three. (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Productcompare.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=100010076%20600028008%20600028012&IsNodeId=1&bop=And&ShowDeactivatedMark=False&CompareItemList=145|33-127-215^33-127-215-TS%2C33-162-031^33-162-031-TS%2C33-320-038^33-320-038-TS) Thoughts?

It was set up perfectly. I bought them all new top of the line shielded CAT6 ethernet, a Tripp Lite ISOBAR4ULTRA 4 surge protector, a 450Mb Trendnet USB gaming adapter, the whole gambit. Had it plugged into its own electrical outlet, all the wires nice and neat, network configuration planned and recorded both hard and soft copy. What I didn't account for was the stupidity of the user whose room I put it in.  She must have let it fall off the book shelf too many times..or spilled soda on it or something. She called me up today and told me it wouldn't even power on.  Theres more to it then that though. I will spare you the drama.

Ahhh, I see.  I thought that it was placed between some books and overheated.  Man, some women are pigs.  My wife is horribly messy and absent minded when it comes to keeping things neat and clean.  She needed our marriage license for something and left it in her glove compartment in her car.  When she gave it back to me it was covered in soda/coffee stains, makeup or some **** like that, etc.  Her birth certificate suffered the same fate.

I have 2 Buffalo routers.  One is WHR-G300N I got as a refurb for about $18 and the other I bought new is the WZR-HP-AG300N.  It was about $100.  It has some bugs that need to be worked out.  It doesn't like Google Chrome for example, but the cheapo one works flawlessly.  They are a bear to setup, though.  Nothing like D-Links, Netgear and Linksys.  I couldn't get the router to recognize my ISP.  Contact with the UI was fine, but the wizard doesn't do it's job.  I've never owned an ASUS but would like to try them out one of these days.

Harry, do they really need a nice router?  Get them a refurb if they're hard on the things.  I can point you to some deals.  Buy.com, ecost.com, compusa.com and gearxs.com have cheap but decent ones.

Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on October 22, 2011, 10:25:03 AM
Better get her something tough and will handle the abuse. What a shame.  >:(
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: Hard Harry on October 22, 2011, 12:00:52 PM
Better get her something tough and will handle the abuse. What a shame.  >:(

Just want to state for the record it wasn't my ex who kill it. It was her room mate. We had to put it in her room. Now she is moving into her own place. I am probably going to get her the RT-N16 and try to load dd-wrt on it. If will be a good learning experience for when I get my new router.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: Hard Harry on October 22, 2011, 12:10:17 PM
Chrome=Barf.  ;D

Well we all can't use Safari.  :P But yea, i use Chrome for general browser, FF for youtube, and MSIE for work(at home). I think I might switch to Chrome at work.  It works much better with the roaming profile and softgrid system we use. Also, many sites mark Chrome 12 as top of the browser list. Go "search the internet" for it. hehe.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on October 22, 2011, 02:38:52 PM
I don't use safari.  :P
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on October 23, 2011, 10:42:29 AM
Wow, I just had a bad waking dream that some Dlink member in the forums started moderating our OT threads and told us that we needed to keep ON Topic or we'd be deleted and banned. What a messed up dream man.  :-\
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: JavaLawyer on October 23, 2011, 12:06:18 PM
Wow, I just had a bad waking dream that some Dlink member in the forums started moderating our OT threads and told us that we needed to keep ON Topic or we'd be deleted and banned. What a messed up dream man.  :-\

Looks like someone is spending too much time on these boards.   ;)
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: kargo27 on October 23, 2011, 12:23:40 PM
Looks like someone is spending too much time on these boards.   ;)

That's what I'm sayin'!
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: JavaLawyer on October 23, 2011, 12:56:43 PM
 ;D
That's what I'm sayin'!
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on October 23, 2011, 01:01:11 PM
Thats is time to retire from the forums. I think I'll pass the torch to you guys and move on.
 ;D
That's what I'm sayin'!
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: JavaLawyer on October 23, 2011, 03:19:02 PM
Thats is time to retire from the forums. I think I'll pass the torch to you guys and move on.
 ;D

Nahh! You have a few useful years left in you.  ;D
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: Hard Harry on October 23, 2011, 10:43:17 PM
Thats is time to retire from the forums. I think I'll pass the torch to you guys and move on.
 ;D

"Choi: It just sounds to me like you need to unplug, man."
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: JavaLawyer on October 24, 2011, 05:05:14 AM
Buy HDDs while they're still on the shelf: Hard Drive Shortage (http://www.maximumpc.com/article/news/hard_drive_shortages_and_higher_prices_confirmed_due_flooding_thailand)
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on October 24, 2011, 07:37:05 AM
Is that for ALL HDDs or only for Western Digital?

I prefer using other brands then WD.  :-\

Buy HDDs while they're still on the shelf: Hard Drive Shortage (http://www.maximumpc.com/article/news/hard_drive_shortages_and_higher_prices_confirmed_due_flooding_thailand)
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: JavaLawyer on October 24, 2011, 07:57:31 AM
Is that for ALL HDDs or only for Western Digital?

I prefer using other brands then WD.  :-\


Unfortunately this will impact all HDD manufacturers. Due to WD's overwhelming market share, other manufacturers are going to be strained to meet demands. To make matters worse, there are a number of other Thailand-based plants impacted by the flood that provide HDD components to WD and other manufacturers (e.g. Seagate).  So, the remaining HDD manufacturer's will also lose some capacity to push out new units.  :o  :(  >:(
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on October 24, 2011, 08:55:58 AM
 ::)
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: JavaLawyer on October 24, 2011, 01:00:29 PM
. . . And things go from bad to worse: Toshiba Added To The List Of Flooded Thailand HDD Facilities (http://www.maximumpc.com/article/news/toshiba_added_list_flooded_thailand_hdd_facilities)
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: Hard Harry on October 24, 2011, 01:35:50 PM
Hmm, maybe this is the break SSD drives needed. I doubt Corsair, Intel, Patriot, or OCZ will be effected. Granted, we will still need HDD's for a long time, but for the main OS drive, if prices on SSD go down, and HDD go up, more people will probably go with SSD's.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: JavaLawyer on October 24, 2011, 01:50:17 PM
Hmm, maybe this is the break SSD drives needed. I doubt Corsair, Intel, Patriot, or OCZ will be effected. Granted, we will still need HDD's for a long time, but for the main OS drive, if prices on SSD go down, and HDD go up, more people will probably go with SSD's.

Kudos on the forward thinking. Would consider working on Wall Street? ???
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on October 24, 2011, 02:01:08 PM
After today, I may!  >:(

"Choi: It just sounds to me like you need to unplug, man."
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: Hard Harry on October 24, 2011, 04:15:31 PM
Has anyone else had the misfortune of being on some of the "Hardcore Gamer" forums where 16-19year old gather to brag about how "leet" they are and how much gamer score they have? Which I wouldn't mind, except when you actually try to talk to them, and find out how little they actually know about the game, their hardware, and the systems behind the games they play. Since when has the label of nerd and geek been allowed to be so watered down by these lazy minded types? Am I being too harsh? What is everyone else's thoughts? Show me the light, because I am starting to feel separated from my own gamer brothern.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: kargo27 on October 24, 2011, 07:00:42 PM
Has anyone else had the misfortune of being on some of the "Hardcore Gamer" forums where 16-19year old gather to brag about how "leet" they are and how much gamer score they have? Which I wouldn't mind, except when you actually try to talk to them, and find out how little they actually know about the game, their hardware, and the systems behind the games they play. Since when has the label of nerd and geek been allowed to be so watered down by these lazy minded types? Am I being too harsh? What is everyone else's thoughts? Show me the light, because I am starting to feel separated from my own gamer brothern.

You said it at "16-19 year olds".  That's why right there, Harry.  Immature kids.  Hell, I know some 37 year olds who are as immature as them, but for other reasons.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: Hard Harry on October 24, 2011, 07:57:24 PM
I didn't mean to insinuate that all 16-19 year olds are immature. I meant that there seems to be a new generation of gamers who are taking the easy way. I know certain gamer that have 100k sub youtube channels that barley know how to turn their computers or consoles on. If you put so much effort into your hobby, its a insult not to take the time to learn the fundamentals. I see the general attitude leads to bad manners, no teamwork, and sometimes even cheating. They are like the bad kids in the first Karete kid movie. ::chuckle:: All power, no thought.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: kargo27 on October 24, 2011, 08:31:49 PM
I didn't mean to insinuate that all 16-19 year olds are immature. I meant that there seems to be a new generation of gamers who are taking the easy way. I know certain gamer that have 100k sub youtube channels that barley know how to turn their computers or consoles on. If you put so much effort into your hobby, its a insult not to take the time to learn the fundamentals. I see the general attitude leads to bad manners, no teamwork, and sometimes even cheating. They are like the bad kids in the first Karete kid movie. ::chuckle:: All power, no thought.

Then perhaps they are looking for a teacher in you, Daniel-Sahn.  Wax on....wax off!
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: Hard Harry on October 24, 2011, 09:26:04 PM
::sigh:: Everything I write to reply sounds preechy. I guess its just society moving on without me as I get older. Spend a hour listening to XBL chat and tell me you don't also fear for what the geek of the future will be. Sadly I see him as the new stupid bully. ::frown::
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on October 25, 2011, 07:09:19 AM
Kids now days are less controlled an disciplined by there parents. I feel that sometimes, there parents are way to oblivious to what they kids are doing on line and gaming or the parents might not care to what goes on. They give them what they want to keep them occupied, busy or quiet for the parents. I feel this leads to uncontrolled behavior towards others and this leads to a misconception on the part of kids thinking they can behave like this in the real world. There in for a "RUDE PERSON" awakening.  My 2 cents.   ::)
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: JavaLawyer on October 26, 2011, 04:59:47 AM
I'll take that a step further and suggest that most kids today have parents that grew up playing arcade, PC, and console games. And of those kids, a good number of them have parents that still play PC/console games, laying the foundation for appropriate behavior through mimicry. That said, kids aren't necessarily introduced into gaming from comradery and teamwork with their peers. To them, gaming is just another toy to be used and abused.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: XS on October 26, 2011, 07:35:09 AM
Has anyone else had the misfortune of being on some of the "Hardcore Gamer" forums where 16-19year old gather to brag about how "leet" they are and how much gamer score they have? Which I wouldn't mind, except when you actually try to talk to them, and find out how little they actually know about the game, their hardware, and the systems behind the games they play. Since when has the label of nerd and geek been allowed to be so watered down by these lazy minded types? Am I being too harsh? What is everyone else's thoughts? Show me the light, because I am starting to feel separated from my own gamer brothern.
Yeah Harry it is best not go on those forums, everyone is rocking 2+ KDR, are "1337" (Elite) and know everything already.  All they do is complain and talk trash!  Those forums are usually full of trolls.
If you ever decide to play COD on XBL, you can add me and also check out my clan for 30+ year olds.  I don't play with them all that much since they usually play at night and I am more of day gamer. 

This is what they are all about:
"The Old Timers Clan is a Call of Duty based clan on Xbox Live for older gamers (30 yrs +). Our focus is simply to provide a relaxed and friendly environment to older gamers who don't take themselves too seriously. For our members, this group isn't just about enjoying the game, but also about developing a sense of fellowship and friendship."

There is lock on membership right now but I think if you know someone like me they will let you in after playing with you for awhile.  If not people will still add you to their friends list, you just don't get to see the "whole" forum.
Let me know if you are interested and I will PM you the link.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on October 26, 2011, 07:54:28 AM
Ya, XS is good man and do enjoy playing.  ;)

Why have a similar group I play with. Nothing official just a good group of friends I've collected over the years. It's nice to play with people older that can have fun, play like a team and enjoy with out the immaturity getting in the way.  >:(
Title: What makes routers "peter out"?
Post by: kargo27 on October 26, 2011, 01:38:09 PM
You know what I mean.  What wears them out? Does the circuitry short out/wear out?

What would make WiFi transmitters become weak at broadcasting a signal?

Now, I know that a power surge can fry it but what about just wearing out?  I guess I'm thinking that since there are no moving parts and are just electrons flowing around, it seems like routers, modems, etc. should last forever.

I do realize that solder can become brittle and crack due to temperature fluctuation but what about the circuitry itself?
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: JavaLawyer on October 26, 2011, 01:56:33 PM
. . . I'm thinking that since there are no moving parts and are just electrons flowing around, it seems like routers, modems, etc. should last forever.

I do realize that solder can become brittle and crack due to temperature fluctuation but what about the circuitry itself?

Electronic components can lose efficiency or fail. For example, if capacitors are exposed to excessive heat, are improperly seated on the board, or aren't receiving the correct voltage they can cause electronic devices to behave erratically and eventual fail altogether.  :o
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: fraggboy on October 26, 2011, 02:27:48 PM
MTBF (Mean Time Between Failure):

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mean_time_between_failures

Unfortunately my wireless Juniper SSG-5 had a MTBF of 22.8 years, but the wireless only lasted about 4 years.. :(  They need to update their information.  

I figure wireless cards have a life span around 4-5 years (From what I've experienced so far).  Your mileage may vary.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: JavaLawyer on October 26, 2011, 02:32:26 PM
I figure wireless cards have a life span around 4-5 years (From what I've experienced so far).  Your mileage may vary.

Before committing to D-Link, I had three Netgear routers (all the same model) die on me within 3 years. . . not a good track record - very low mileage.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: fraggboy on October 26, 2011, 02:38:12 PM
Depending on how long the 4500 lasts, I might be a faithful D-Link customer for now on.  For the price I paid for it, I would like at least 2-3 years out of the wireless portion.  If I get that, then I am 'sold' on D-Link.

Does anyone own a D-Link wireless router older than 3 years (And the wireless signal is strong)?
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on October 26, 2011, 02:45:42 PM
One of my 4500s is 5 years now.  ;D
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: JavaLawyer on October 26, 2011, 02:49:15 PM
My DIR-615 is 1.5 years old (extrapolated that date from my first DIR-615 forum post!).  ;D
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: fraggboy on October 26, 2011, 02:50:05 PM
One of my 4500s is 5 years now.  ;D

Well then.. I picked a great model!!  I feel much better now.  Curious, what firmware are you running on it?  You said one of your 4500's (I know you have multiple), What is the function of this 4500?  Wireless repeater?  Bridge?
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: kargo27 on October 26, 2011, 03:29:49 PM
Michael, I like your pumpkin avatar!   :D

Good info from all, btw. ;)

I have my DGL-4500 sitting elevated on a wire-latticed "cube" along with my modem.  So it's getting air circulation from all sides, basically.  It's never above 76 degrees in the room that it's in, either, so I'm hoping that heat dissipation will extend the life of the unit.

Edit to add: I wonder... if lead solder were reintroduced would it would have a positive effect on longevity?  I know it's toxic but man, both it's malleable and conductive properties are great.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: fraggboy on October 26, 2011, 03:33:02 PM
I have a small desk fan blowing on my 4500, modem, and NAS, with my 4500 elevated like you.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: Hard Harry on October 26, 2011, 04:18:59 PM
One of my 4500s is 5 years now.  ;D

My DGL-4300 is still going strong at my friends house. She doesn't have internet, just uses it to network her laptops together. She does alot of PC to PC gaming and file sharing. And I think I bought that in 2004? Its been kicked around too, moved across the country, caught in a rain storm and taken apart (I was curious). 4500 is not quite robust (I have taken my 4500 apart too and compared) but still very good router. I still claim the DGL-4300 was the best retail available, stock, G router out there. Only thing I see beating it is the WRT54GS with 3rd party firmware.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: Hard Harry on October 26, 2011, 04:19:46 PM
I have a small desk fan blowing on my 4500, modem, and NAS, with my 4500 elevated like you.

Best tip I got was to put the 4500 over one of my fans that have pushing out at the top of my case. Works like a charm.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: kargo27 on October 26, 2011, 07:48:44 PM
My DGL-4300 is still going strong at my friends house. She doesn't have internet, just uses it to network her laptops together. She does alot of PC to PC gaming and file sharing. And I think I bought that in 2004? Its been kicked around too, moved across the country, caught in a rain storm and taken apart (I was curious). 4500 is not quite robust (I have taken my 4500 apart too and compared) but still very good router. I still claim the DGL-4300 was the best retail available, stock, G router out there. Only thing I see beating it is the WRT54GS with 3rd party firmware.

Yeah, what is the deal with the WRT54GS and it's following?  It's like a cult following on old technology.  What gives?  I don't get it.   ???
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: Hard Harry on October 26, 2011, 08:14:05 PM
In a word? Firmware.

The WRT54GS v2 is compatible with almost every 3rd party firmware out there. It has the stable broadcom CPU, 32 RAM and 8 Flash, good power supply, and later on you could get one for 40$ on Ebay. Take a 40$ WRT54GS, slap a mega dd-wrt build on it, and replace the antenna with high gain, and you had a router that beat the pants off of 200/300/350$+ routers. Media servers, DDNS, print server, serial port, advance firewall types, high threshold VPN tunneling..they are beasts. Over the last 3-5 years, the technology has just started to catch up. But Pre-N, if you were a geek, you had a WRT54GS...period. Heck, entire sub-cultures grew up around them. And all because o***overnment order for linksys to make their firmware code public. Seriously, google it sometimes, its a fascinating story.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: kargo27 on October 26, 2011, 09:40:21 PM
In a word? Firmware.

The WRT54GS v2 is compatible with almost every 3rd party firmware out there. It has the stable broadcom CPU, 32 RAM and 8 Flash, good power supply, and later on you could get one for 40$ on Ebay. Take a 40$ WRT54GS, slap a mega dd-wrt build on it, and replace the antenna with high gain, and you had a router that beat the pants off of 200/300/350$+ routers. Media servers, DDNS, print server, serial port, advance firewall types, high threshold VPN tunneling..they are beasts. Over the last 3-5 years, the technology has just started to catch up. But Pre-N, if you were a geek, you had a WRT54GS...period. Heck, entire sub-cultures grew up around them. And all because o***overnment order for linksys to make their firmware code public. Seriously, google it sometimes, its a fascinating story.

Interesting!  Reading about it now.....
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on October 27, 2011, 07:17:52 AM
And I've never used a fan.  ::)

Best tip I got was to put the 4500 over one of my fans that have pushing out at the top of my case. Works like a charm.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: Hard Harry on October 27, 2011, 05:23:07 PM
Well I am not saying a fan is required. Just saying I would have never thought of putting my router on top of my PC, but someone on this forum suggested it and it works great. I was actually having some packet loss on my WLAN one day and moving it there fixed it.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: Darkknight on October 27, 2011, 11:31:13 PM
Depending on how long the 4500 lasts, I might be a faithful D-Link customer for now on.  For the price I paid for it, I would like at least 2-3 years out of the wireless portion.  If I get that, then I am 'sold' on D-Link.

Does anyone own a D-Link wireless router older than 3 years (And the wireless signal is strong)?

What funny timing...

I decided to stop by just to post that I had to retire my DGL4500 today, and found your post. I bought it 11/28/07 from Circuit City (lol, they failed sooner, who would've guessed that?).

Anyhow, It was great for years, then in March after my wife and I picked up a couple of HTC thunderbolts, whenever the wifi on the phones was connected for more than a few minutes, the wireless would die on the router altogether, occasionally locking up the whole router (display still works fine though...). Took a while to figure it out. When we kept the wifi disabled on the phones, the 4500 will last days/weeks sometimes without a problem, then bam. Lose all internet access for no reason. The router in general has just gotten more unstable since then, which doesn't work well with online gaming. Can't even access the internal page to reboot remotely. I actually have to walk over and unplug the darn thing.

It's sad really, because I remember the router having 180day+ uptimes. It has been by far the best most stable router I've owned, and I still wouldn't have replaced it, except it dies too often when streaming HD content to my HTPCs. I refuse to constantly reboot it anymore.

I hate to say it, but I replaced it with an E4200. First, I don't dig white electronics. Second, Dlink has really struggled with their firmware. I was fortunate enough to have kept v1.02 on my 4500 this whole time. I half wonder if updating the firmware would fix the buggy wireless, but I don't want to bother at this point. Seems like a problem regardless of which option I choose, so I wanted a new router. The reviews surrounding the latest dlink models indicate more of the same, buggy products. I wanted simul-dual band to segregate my HTPCs from phones/tablet/etc. TBH, I thought the 4500 did that when I bought it, I was sadly disappointed. The 665 doesn't seem to do that, and it's got horrible reliability reviews. 855 does do it, but doesn't support 450Mbps, and looking at it would only serve to remind me that my beloved 4500 failed over a pair of new phones.  :'(

Also, I'd like to point out that the display was an awesome idea, but going with OLEDs that can't stay on all the time was a stupid idea. What exactly is the point of putting a flashy item on there that won't flash for fear of wearing out? Great idea, poor execution.

Dlink's attitude towards tech support has changed dramatically since then as well. I won't debate the merits, but I will say changing to a paid support model was not a popular decision with me.

So, that being said, I got exactly 3 years and 11 months to the day from my DGL 4500. I'll keep it as a backup, and perhaps even try an updated firmware one day. I still have my old 624 banging around some place, and I hated that thing.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: kargo27 on October 28, 2011, 06:26:18 AM
Hey Darkknight, I have an E4200 too, and it rocks!  Furry didn't have good luck with it when I lent it to him to try out, though.  :(

I would definitely try that firmware update for your 4500.  If that's the fix then you'd have a good, reliable backup if your E4200 petered out.

I'm glad that you posted; it's good to get an idea of how long the router is lasting for folks.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: kargo27 on October 28, 2011, 06:27:46 AM
This looks like a decent deal on a wireless HP printer...today only!

http://1saleaday.com/
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: JavaLawyer on October 28, 2011, 07:06:47 AM
Do you live out in the backwoods of America? FCC Moves to Fund Rural Broadband (http://www.maximumpc.com/article/news/fcc_moves_fund_rural_broadband)  :)
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: kargo27 on October 28, 2011, 12:50:46 PM
Do you live out in the backwoods of America? FCC Moves to Fund Rural Broadband (http://www.maximumpc.com/article/news/fcc_moves_fund_rural_broadband)  :)

Hmmm, I have mixed feelings about this.

Will it be cost effective?  How long to get a return on investment?

Then I think it would be nice to have a more level playing field for subscribers.

I wonder if it will be DSL, cable, fiber optics, or what?  I doubt fiber, too expensive.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: kargo27 on October 28, 2011, 12:52:59 PM
Looking at that link that Java placed for rural broadband, a Battlefield 3 ad popped up and raised a question for me.

What is the orange "light" on the side of the soldier's torso supposed to represent?
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: JavaLawyer on October 28, 2011, 01:10:15 PM
Will it be cost effective?  How long to get a return on investment?

Cost effective? We're talking about the Federal Government.
ROI = [1 /($Invested)]
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: Hard Harry on October 28, 2011, 04:01:08 PM
Since everyone else was changing their profile Pic, I thought I would hop on the wagon.

Let's make it happen, Captain!
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: JavaLawyer on October 28, 2011, 06:49:29 PM
Trick or treat?  :o
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: kargo27 on October 28, 2011, 09:02:25 PM
Cost effective? We're talking about the Federal Government.
ROI = [1 /($Invested)]

That's what I was afraid of.   ::)
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: Hard Harry on October 29, 2011, 11:43:34 AM
Is it true Yahoo wants you to upgrade to Yahoo plus to work with a email client? Yeaaaa!!! Right!! I can't even forward my email? Can we please switch our little chat group over to Google? I am closing my Yahoo account. Its just utter BS.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: JavaLawyer on October 31, 2011, 05:44:18 AM
Happy Halloween!

Boooooo!
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: kargo27 on October 31, 2011, 06:42:02 AM
Happy Halloween!

Boooooo!

Ahhh!  You scared me!

Happy Halloween!
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on October 31, 2011, 08:41:25 AM
And Happy B-day to me  ;D
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: JavaLawyer on October 31, 2011, 09:57:31 AM
And Happy B-day to me  ;D

Is today really your birthday?

Happy Birthday!

Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on October 31, 2011, 10:07:51 AM
Friday was.  ::) I'm old now.  ;D
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: JavaLawyer on October 31, 2011, 11:17:50 AM
Friday was.  ::) I'm old now.  ;D

In that case, HAPPY Belated Birthday!!!
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: kargo27 on November 01, 2011, 02:28:40 PM
Happy Belated Birthday!!!  ;D
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on November 01, 2011, 02:31:32 PM
Thank you Sirs. I had a good day off yesterday goofing off, played some xbox. I didn't get out of my PJs at all. HEHE.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: XS on November 03, 2011, 06:59:46 AM
In that case, HAPPY Belated Birthday!!!
+1
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on November 03, 2011, 07:05:40 AM
 ;)
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: XS on November 03, 2011, 07:38:09 AM
Anyone have a Kmart near by and want MW3 early?  May be you will get lucky.....
http://www.computerandvideogames.com/324862/us-retailer-selling-modern-warfare-3-now/ (http://www.computerandvideogames.com/324862/us-retailer-selling-modern-warfare-3-now/)
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: Hard Harry on November 03, 2011, 12:15:23 PM
I almost wonder if this was done on purpose. Its Win/Win for Kmart and Activision, as long as the supply released before Activision makes them pull it is limited. Creates a demand wave right before release, and Kmart gets a bunch of people going into their stores looking for the game.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: kargo27 on November 03, 2011, 08:47:31 PM
Ha!  Wouldn't that cause your 360 console to be banned?
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: fraggboy on November 04, 2011, 06:15:53 AM
I would be pissed if my 360 was banned for playing a game before the release date!  They need to go after K-Mart, not the players (Which I'm sure they are).

(Game is per-ordered and will wait to pick it up on Tuesday after work.)   ;D
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: XS on November 04, 2011, 06:57:46 AM
No MS/activision will not ban your 360 or even GT.  They already tweeted about it, if you obtain a legal copy of MW3 early, at most they might reset your stats on release date and that's it.
Yeah my copy is coming from Amazon, hopefully I will get it some what early this time, last year I did not get Black ops until 7:00PM!!!
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on November 04, 2011, 07:10:32 AM
I always go on midnight of the release day. Get it in my hot little hands and not have to worry about the snail mail.  ;D
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: XS on November 04, 2011, 08:30:58 AM
Hey Furry,
Good news for you!  MW3 has been noted as MW2.5!

Check out this vid, looks identical to MW2!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8A9OmsyvoWg&feature=player_embedded (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8A9OmsyvoWg&feature=player_embedded)
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on November 04, 2011, 08:37:39 AM
 ???
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: XS on November 04, 2011, 08:39:57 AM
Why the frown? I thought you liked MW2????
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on November 04, 2011, 08:43:14 AM
was wondering why you say MW2.5? Ya I love MW2. I sold BO and BF3 to my buddy yesterday.  ::)

MW3 Looks very good...  ;)
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on November 04, 2011, 08:45:47 AM
And when are we gonna play again?  ::)
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: XS on November 04, 2011, 08:51:52 AM
I didn't say 2.5, the early reviews did like the guy in the vid, I was just repeating what he said.  I will be on playing MW3 next week so you should see me on, If I am not in already in a full party we can kill some newbs together, oh wait I will be newb too, lol.

Right now I am playing BF3 campaign on hard and I think playing BF3 on hard was a mistake.  Keep dying too much and the game is no fun.  I think I might try it on normal this weekend and beat it before MW3 comes out!
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on November 04, 2011, 09:35:21 AM
I hear ya...I liked the graphics of BF3, however think that the menus and operation is way to complicated. I didn't like trying to get into squads on a team an then have the server not place us all together. The maps were kewl but some were way too big for what we were playing. Looks like MW3 is going to be good man. I'll be probably playing ODST or MW2 this weekend.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: XS on November 04, 2011, 01:56:45 PM
Hey furr,
Did you hit the prestige button before you sold Bops to get a prestige token for MW3? 
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on November 04, 2011, 04:03:52 PM
I did on BO and MW2.  ;D
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: kargo27 on November 05, 2011, 02:36:00 PM
What's a prestige token for MW3?
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: XS on November 05, 2011, 02:48:43 PM
If you prestige in any previous titles, not sure how far back, I know COD4, MW2 and bops.  If you prestiged once in any of those games you get one token for each game.  It does not matter if you prestiged once or 10 times, you can only get one token per game.

You use these tokens in the MW3 prestige shop to buy extras, i.e. your favorite gun to be unlocked at all levels, an extra class, etc.

May want to google it to get more info on it.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: kargo27 on November 06, 2011, 04:50:20 PM
Oh, interesting!

I prestiged once in MW2 but never got that far in B.O.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: Hard Harry on November 07, 2011, 03:39:31 AM
Anyone have any experience with Newsdemon and NewsRover? I mean I got it to work, but it seems overly complex. Do I just have to man up and learn old school (aka poking around and learning on my own?) or anyone know o***ood 3rd party walk through? NewsDemon support site is utterly useless. I forwarded the ports, and put in a exception into my AV, set my Max connections to 50, but I feel like there should be alot more tweaking. Better utility?

PS. I am of-course using this for totally legal purposes.  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: JavaLawyer on November 07, 2011, 09:31:18 AM
Check this out: French Delivery Trucky Carrying 6,000 Copies of MW3 Hijacked with Tear Gas (http://www.maximumpc.com/article/news/french_delivery_trucky_carrying_6000_copies_mw3_hijacked_tear_gas)
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on November 07, 2011, 09:58:44 AM
I'm sure you'll see that in the next MW4 campaign level somewheres LOL. How funny. I'm going to wait for tomorrow to get it. Looks good though.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: JavaLawyer on November 07, 2011, 10:50:50 AM
Yeah, I'm sure they can squeeze a staged supply truck ambush into the game somewhere. ;D
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: kargo27 on November 07, 2011, 04:21:58 PM
I'm sure you'll see that in the next MW4 campaign level somewheres LOL. How funny. I'm going to wait for tomorrow to get it. Looks good though.

Ha!!!

I'll have to get it tomorrow night.  Out of town for bizzzness right now. :(
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: Hard Harry on November 07, 2011, 05:27:24 PM
And now new on Ebay, scratch and sniff MW3. I love the smell of tear gas in the morning. Lolz
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: Hard Harry on November 08, 2011, 04:17:18 AM
By the way, I found my biggest blockage was the newsgroup clien I was using. I switched to Newsbin and its night and day. A search engine and magnetic rar messages make all the differences. No one else uses newgroups?
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: JavaLawyer on November 08, 2011, 07:47:27 AM
Anyone here willing to admit belonging to this group ;D: AOL Still Has 3.5 Million Dialup Subscribers (http://www.maximumpc.com/article/news/aol_still_has_35_million_dialup_subscribers)
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on November 08, 2011, 07:51:44 AM
 ::) Maybe...
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: Hard Harry on November 08, 2011, 08:50:31 AM
Anyone here willing to admit belonging to this group ;D: AOL Still Has 3.5 Million Dialup Subscribers (http://www.maximumpc.com/article/news/aol_still_has_35_million_dialup_subscribers)

Hah, it's the "dumb" fine. 75% of AOL subscribers are 50+ people who don't know you don't have to pay for AOL dialup to retain access to their email. I wonder how many people are still using WebTV.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on November 08, 2011, 08:52:01 AM
Didn't they turn off WebTV?
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: kargo27 on November 09, 2011, 01:08:47 PM
Hah, it's the "dumb" fine. 75% of AOL subscribers are 50+ people who don't know you don't have to pay for AOL dialup to retain access to their email. I wonder how many people are still using WebTV.

That's exactly what I'd expect and probably women!
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: fraggboy on November 09, 2011, 02:14:59 PM
**Giggles** My neighbor uses AOL.   ;D  She asked me a few days ago stating she couldn't get into her email (Wrong password).  I asked what provider it was, and she replied AOL.  It took every ounce of me to hold back the laughter.  I calmly stated that I wouldn't know her password, and to call up AOL to have them reset it.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: XS on November 10, 2011, 09:23:39 AM
How is everyone liking MW3?

Right now multi-player blows, horrible lag for me and I can't even go positive.  I noticed if you get host you are cursed with crap connection!

Anyone else having better luck?
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on November 10, 2011, 09:30:06 AM
 ??? Huh?
Maybe you should switch back the DGL.  ::)

I had a good time the other night.
I still notice that there is some Quick Scoping going on.
I guess we have to get used to leveling up on rank and weapons. Kinda interesting.
Still not sure about how to fully use the strike package even though you do get to keep streaks using the one.
I'm getting used to the maps some. Trying to find the sweet spots to camp out.
Over all I like it. Better than BF3 IMO.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: XS on November 10, 2011, 09:43:19 AM
What? I am still using the DGL, switch it to what?

I saw your invite the other day but I was too frustrated with the lag to accept it and I was done after that match.

Yeah, maybe my DGL needs some tweaking or I will have to start camping it up since running around is only getting me smoked, lol.

Several times I would shoot a guy in his back only for him to turn around and kill me.

I think am going to finish the BF3 campaign and go back to MW3 MP in a few days, hopefully the (my) connection gets better!

My plan is to play a game or two of MP and if gets to be a lag fest, stop playing right away instead of hoping I'll get a better connection the next game.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on November 10, 2011, 09:52:14 AM
Oops, not enough coffee this am. LOL. Sorry. Was confusing with someone else.  ::)

Maybe someone could look at your router settings wif ya.  ;)
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: LookIntoMyEyees on November 10, 2011, 12:13:24 PM
At least someone is doing something http://www.engadget.com/2011/11/10/comcast-shifts-some-customers-to-ipv6-promises-it-wont-hurt/ (http://www.engadget.com/2011/11/10/comcast-shifts-some-customers-to-ipv6-promises-it-wont-hurt/) Also Mw3 is pretty darn fun, I am only missing one token from Cod 4 :( Sad! Anyways good to see you guys doing okay and the forums still active!

--
Chirs
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: kargo27 on November 10, 2011, 02:35:16 PM
I'm liking MW3, too.  I'm not very good though.

Speaking of, either my DGL-4500 or my modem is causing my router to reboot every so often, maybe once every week or two.  This is my second DGL-4500 that I got from that $80 deal months ago.

I turned the logs on on the 4500 but it's not showing anything, which makes me wonder if it's the modem (SB6120).   ???
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on November 10, 2011, 02:55:06 PM
Probably PEBKAC.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: kargo27 on November 10, 2011, 03:01:16 PM
Probably PEBKAC.

 ::)

I probably shouldn't have updated my firmware!   :P
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: kargo27 on November 10, 2011, 03:03:10 PM
BTW, Michael, I'm limited in my PM's to 10 an hour per D-Link.  So if I reply to all and there are 3 people, I can only send 3-4 PM's, then I'm locked out for an hour.

The horror!
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: Hard Harry on November 11, 2011, 04:06:02 AM
::faint whisper:: gmail ::drifts off::
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on November 11, 2011, 07:51:49 AM
Probably should be using a proper router too.  :P

::)

I probably shouldn't have updated my firmware!   :P
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: JavaLawyer on November 11, 2011, 08:46:42 AM
BTW, Michael, I'm limited in my PM's to 10 an hour per D-Link.  So if I reply to all and there are 3 people, I can only send 3-4 PM's, then I'm locked out for an hour.

The horror!

Spammer Alert! :o
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on November 11, 2011, 08:48:54 AM
Report him.  ;D
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: JavaLawyer on November 11, 2011, 08:51:41 AM
Here are the results of my first pseudo-scientific multi-board study evaluating the HDD configuration preferences of DNS-320, DNS-323, and DNS-325 ShareCenter owners: ShareCenter HDD Configuration Poll Results (http://forums.dlink.com/index.php?topic=42359.msg149215#msg149215)  ;D
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: Hard Harry on November 11, 2011, 09:11:20 AM
BTW, if anyone wants to IM me, they can find me on Tecknowhelp@gmail.com. Its a account I will be using just for this board. Yahoo was just killing me with spam-bots.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on November 11, 2011, 09:20:46 AM
funny I don't seem to get those bots on mine.
I'm on Google talk as furrynutz.  ::) Even thought I don't Google.  >:(
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: Hard Harry on November 11, 2011, 09:22:26 AM
Not sure what to tell you, maybe they are only hounding new user? I created the yahoo user just for the IM client so..::shrug:: Then when I found they block pop, I just had to ditch them. IMing you now.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: XS on November 11, 2011, 02:17:49 PM
So fur, you are not seeing a bunch of lag in MW3?
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on November 12, 2011, 09:02:31 AM
I did see some last night for sure. Think this this weekend is the first full weekend for the game, I presume there is more people online now so I presume we'll see more of that going on. They updated something last nite and not sure if I like it. Noticed there was one map I used to be able to hide on the down slop on one side and I could be fairly safe. I noticed last nite that I was getting hit more and was more in view by the kill cam. Others also noticed that the bullet impact seemed lessened by some degree.  >:(
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: XS on November 12, 2011, 01:30:14 PM
Odd, I played 4 games of TDM last night and 3 out of 4 I finally had a good connection and lets just not mention that 4th game, lol.

Details for XBL update:
"For Xbox 360 users the patch includes improvements to matchmaking and fix for video uploads on Standard Definition TVs."
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: kargo27 on November 13, 2011, 03:58:31 PM
Man, I suck at TDM and everything else. 

I'll never be good at COD, my reaction times are too slow.  I went 16-8 on my first game of Domination, then 1-6 on that one where you have to collect the dog tags and 3-14 after that on Domination. 
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on November 13, 2011, 04:33:54 PM
Practice, Practice.  ;D
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: Hard Harry on November 16, 2011, 10:26:39 AM
Ok, for those curious, here is a comparison between the SB6120 and the SB6180.

Bottom Line:
Overall performance is dead even, but with the SB6180 having 8 channels, that performance will no doubt stay more consistent through peak times during the day. Also, the SB6180 gives you much more info on your signal. I especially like the ability to see your configuration file (Speed tier and IP). The one down side is there seems to be a bit of a delay switching between options on the modems diagnostics, but I think thats because its pulling more data for the interface. Considering a SB6120 cost 79-99$, and I bought the SB6180 for 69$, I would say its a very good deal. I will save my final recommendation after using it for a week or so, but so far so good.


SB6120
Status   Signal   Addresses   Configuration   Logs   Open Source   Help
Model Name: SB6120
Vendor Name: Motorola
Firmware Name: SB612X-1.0.5.1-SCM00-NOSH

SIGNAL
Channel ID   2    3    4    11
Frequency   843000000 Hz    849000000 Hz    855000000 Hz    879000000 Hz
Signal to Noise Ratio   37 dB    36 dB    36 dB    37 dB
Downstream Modulation   QAM256    QAM256    QAM256    QAM256
Power Level
The Downstream Power Level reading is a snapshot taken at the time this page was requested. Please Reload/Refresh this Page for a new reading
0 dBmV     -1 dBmV     -1 dBmV     0 dBmV  
Upstream   Bonding Channel Value
Channel ID   1
Frequency   25600000 Hz
Ranging Service ID   3375
Symbol Rate   5.120 Msym/sec
Power Level   44 dBmV
Upstream Modulation   [4] QPSK
[2] 16QAM
Ranging Status   Success

PERFORMANCE
http://www.speedtest.net/result/1595625740.png (http://www.speedtest.net/result/1595625740.png)
Boston 32.21 7.32 17ms

http://www.speedtest.net/result/1595633068.png (http://www.speedtest.net/result/1595633068.png)
NY 32.35 7.19 11ms

Pingtest.net
Philidaphia 22ms 1 ms A

http://myspeed.visualware.com
Test Type:   Application Speed
Location:   
Download Speed:   32741 kbps
Upload Speed:   6871 kbps
Speed Consistency:   99 %
Round Trip Time:   16 ms
Max Delay:   36 ms
Average Delay:   1 ms
Bandwidth:   33600 kbps
Max Route Speed:   32767 kbps
Forced Idle:   6 %
Route Concurrency:   1
Test Type:   s / s
Round Trip Time Consistency:   100 %


SB6180
Software Version: SB6180-3.2.1.0-GA-00-252-NOSH
Hardware Version: 1
MIB Version: II
GUI Version: 1.0

SIGNAL
Acquire Downstream Channel   843000000 Hz   Locked
Connectivity State   OK   Operational
Boot State   OK   Operational
Configuration File   OK   150001_vm2.0_d.cfg
Security   Enabled   BPI+

Downstream Bonded Channels
Channel   Lock Status   Modulation   Channel ID   Frequency   Power   SNR   Correctables   Uncorrectables
1   Locked   QAM256   2   843000000 Hz    0.2 dBmV   39.1 dB   1005   0
2   Locked   QAM256   3   849000000 Hz   -0.5 dBmV   38.7 dB   35   0
3   Locked   QAM256   4   855000000 Hz   -0.5 dBmV   37.4 dB   25   0
4   Locked   QAM256   9   867000000 Hz   -1.6 dBmV   37.9 dB   25   0
5   Locked   QAM256   10   873000000 Hz   -2.0 dBmV   37.9 dB   31   0
6   Locked   QAM256   11   879000000 Hz   -1.8 dBmV   38.0 dB   28   0
7   Locked   QAM256   12   885000000 Hz   -2.0 dBmV   37.3 dB   45   0
8   Not Locked   Unknown   0   0 Hz    0.0 dBmV    0.0 dB   0   0

Correctables   Uncorrectables
1139   0

Upstream Bonded Channels
Channel   Lock Status   US Channel Type   Channel ID   Symbol Rate   Frequency   Power
1   Locked   ATDMA   1   5120 Ksym/sec   25600000 Hz   43.2 dBmV
2   Not Locked   Unknown   1   0 Ksym/sec   0 Hz    0.0 dBmV
3   Not Locked   Unknown   1   0 Ksym/sec   0 Hz    0.0 dBmV
4   Not Locked   Unknown   1   0 Ksym/sec   0 Hz    0.0 dBmV

PERFORMANCE
http://www.speedtest.net/result/1595729861.png (http://www.speedtest.net/result/1595729861.png)
Boston 32.98 7.11 15ms

http://www.speedtest.net/result/1595732324.png (http://www.speedtest.net/result/1595732324.png)
New York 32.67 6.63 12ms

Philidaphia 22ms 1 ms A
Test Type:   Application Speed
Location:   
Download Speed:   32701 kbps
Upload Speed:   7259 kbps
Speed Consistency:   99 %
Round Trip Time:   16 ms
Max Delay:   2 ms
Average Delay:   1 ms
Bandwidth:   32800 kbps
Max Route Speed:   32767 kbps
Forced Idle:   6 %
Route Concurrency:   1
Test Type:   s / s
Round Trip Time Consistency:   88 %
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on November 18, 2011, 07:15:27 AM
Hows the 80 doing Harry?
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: Hard Harry on November 18, 2011, 09:55:21 AM
So far so good. And I think I might not have captured the modem's true performance. I am downloading from Newsgroups up to 60Mb/8MB a second. Its literary downloading faster then I can find....linux distros. :-)
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on November 18, 2011, 10:23:50 AM
kewl...maybe you should get me one?  ;D
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: fraggboy on November 18, 2011, 12:41:29 PM
kewl...maybe you should get me one?  ;D


HH,

If you can, I'll pay for it and shipping.   ;D
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: Hard Harry on November 19, 2011, 07:59:26 PM
So no one here uses a News servers? Woe to the Doctor that can't treat himself.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: kargo27 on November 19, 2011, 09:42:19 PM
Hey, what do you all think of this router?

http://1saleaday.com/wireless/
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on November 19, 2011, 09:45:27 PM
No experience. 600ft huh?  ::)
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: kargo27 on November 19, 2011, 09:47:36 PM
No experience. 600ft huh?  ::)

I thought that was quite a long range, too.  Hmmm.

But what's with the mobile broadband thing?  What's that all about?  And what about "Cradlepoint"?
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on November 19, 2011, 10:12:36 PM
It's about connecting up a Mobile Broadband USB adapter to it on the WAN side instead of your standard DSL or Cable or FIOS modems, they allow wireless broadband to be connect to the router.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: kargo27 on November 20, 2011, 06:46:47 AM
It's about connecting up a Mobile Broadband USB adapter to it on the WAN side instead of your standard DSL or Cable or FIOS modems, they allow wireless broadband to be connect to the router.

So essentially you're using the WiFi to take place of the wireless?  The data is going through the internet instead of through the cell towers?
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: Hard Harry on November 20, 2011, 07:07:08 AM
So essentially you're using the WiFi to take place of the wireless?  The data is going through the internet instead of through the cell towers?

No, other way around. Your internet is going through cell towers. Some people either live in the boonies where there aren't many ISP's, or in the city where they have WiMax and other cellular type 4G connections. Very few US ISP's allow it though.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: kargo27 on November 20, 2011, 07:19:21 AM
Ahhhh, I see.  Thanks for clearing that up, H^2.

I definitely don't want that.   :D
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: LookIntoMyEyees on November 22, 2011, 07:11:53 PM
After 2/5 years my router decides to die on me :( RIP 4500 (Best router I had owned) It is having power outages which drops all connection but come back in 5 secs, the wireless no longer works and it is weird -_-

--
Chris
RIP 4500
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on November 23, 2011, 07:02:25 AM
What?, you sure about that?
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: Hard Harry on November 23, 2011, 07:53:43 AM
Yea, mine is started to die too, sometimes settings take a few attempts to save and wireless has less total dh direct hardwired to antenna connector (I used my father's tool that he uses to test ham radio). I have had mine since week one they came out though so...Im not bitter. Gave me a good run.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: LookIntoMyEyees on November 23, 2011, 05:51:58 PM
Yea, I got a new router today :) I did try everything on my 4500 but to no avail...

--
Chris
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: kargo27 on November 24, 2011, 06:27:59 AM
Happy Thanksgiving guys!
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: LookIntoMyEyees on November 24, 2011, 08:31:07 AM
Happy Thanksgiving guys!

 Thanks, happy thanksgiving to all to :)

--
Chris
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: JavaLawyer on November 24, 2011, 09:28:42 AM
HAPPY
THANKSGIVING!
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: kargo27 on November 24, 2011, 03:18:37 PM
Yea, I got a new router today :) I did try everything on my 4500 but to no avail...

--
Chris

What did you end up getting, Chris?
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: Hard Harry on November 24, 2011, 10:56:14 PM
Anyone having issues with Horde in GOW3 after the free DLC?
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: kargo27 on November 25, 2011, 07:07:42 AM
Anyone having issues with Horde in GOW3 after the free DLC?

I haven't played it in a couple of weeks.  What's it doing?
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: LookIntoMyEyees on November 27, 2011, 12:41:48 PM
What did you end up getting, Chris?

 I ended up going the withe Asus Black Diamond, been had my eyes on it for a while.

--
Chris
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: Hard Harry on November 27, 2011, 07:15:50 PM
I hear good things about that. Only reason I haven't bought it is I am waiting for the RT-N66U which should be out late December early January. Thing keeps getting delayed. ::grumble::
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: kargo27 on November 28, 2011, 06:17:47 AM
Very nice!
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: LookIntoMyEyees on November 28, 2011, 12:34:03 PM
I hear good things about that. Only reason I haven't bought it is I am waiting for the RT-N66U which should be out late December early January. Thing keeps getting delayed. ::grumble::

 Yup I thought of waiting too, but decided I couldn't. To bad that D link ain't making no more Gaming routers (I guess)

--
Chris
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on November 28, 2011, 12:38:39 PM
I like my DIR-825 man.  ;D
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: XS on November 29, 2011, 10:17:08 PM
Hi everyone!  Hope you are all doing well!  I have been super busy with the Holidays!  Anyway I hope everyone had a good Thanksgiving!!!  (I know a little late)
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on November 29, 2011, 10:22:09 PM
Merry Christmas XS.  ;D
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: fraggboy on November 30, 2011, 06:20:46 AM
Christma-hanu-kwanza-kah, aka Happy Holidays!  :) 

Need to cover everyone here.. ;)  The Interwebs is all over the World!!   :o

Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: XS on November 30, 2011, 07:51:07 AM
lol, you too Furry,  Hey we still need to do that TV, maybe Tuesday, my router still locks up every once in while and needs to be hard reset.

Anyway, how are you enjoying MW3?  It has been playable the past 2 weeks or so, not lagging as much.
A lot of glitches still.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on November 30, 2011, 08:39:00 AM
Ya man, I'm ready now hehe. Lets connect up sometime. Get that router going.

Been liking MW3 pretty good. A few thinks I don't like but having a good time with it. Lots of stuff to do in it for sure. Been play MP mostly. Need to break into OPS and coop one day.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: Hard Harry on November 30, 2011, 11:05:40 PM
Its going to come to a point where we cant even say Happy Holidays anymore. Maybe just..."Happy!". Just scream it randomly at people. It will catch on. ::nodnod::
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: JavaLawyer on December 01, 2011, 05:22:04 AM
Hey all. . . It's been a while since I dropped by. Been busy putting out fires on the ShareCenter boards.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: kargo27 on December 01, 2011, 05:45:16 AM
Its going to come to a point where we cant even say Happy Holidays anymore. Maybe just..."Happy!". Just scream it randomly at people. It will catch on. ::nodnod::

Hey, you're about to hit 1000 posts!  Congrats!   ;)
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: kargo27 on December 01, 2011, 05:46:02 AM
Hey all. . . It's been a while since I dropped by. Been busy putting out fires on the ShareCenter boards.

Hey Michael!  Good to see ya back!  ;)
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: XS on December 01, 2011, 07:59:57 AM
Its going to come to a point where we cant even say Happy Holidays anymore. Maybe just..."Happy!". Just scream it randomly at people. It will catch on. ::nodnod::

Maybe, but I will always say Merry Christmas since I celebrate it.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on December 01, 2011, 08:31:40 AM
Sure it's not Happy Christmas  ::)
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: XS on December 01, 2011, 02:09:17 PM
Only if you are trading places, lol.
Merry new year, lol.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on December 01, 2011, 02:24:51 PM
LOL Nice
Title: different upload speeds with different routers
Post by: kargo27 on December 04, 2011, 01:40:33 PM
As you guys probably know I switch out routers occasionally.  I use D-Link, Linksys, Netgear and Buffalo.

My cheap Buffalo router will give me 3MBPS upload speeds whereas my 4500 will give 1.07 and Linksys 1.70.

Why do you suppose I get double the upload with the Buffalo ($16 refurb) but half to less than half that with my other, "better" routers?

Hmmmm?  Answer me that, you wizards!  :P   ;D   ;)
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on December 04, 2011, 02:53:31 PM
were you using automatic or manual UPLINK options?
Title: Re: different upload speeds with different routers
Post by: XS on December 04, 2011, 08:57:32 PM
As you guys probably know I switch out routers occasionally.  I use D-Link, Linksys, Netgear and Buffalo.

My cheap Buffalo router will give me 3MBPS upload speeds whereas my 4500 will give 1.07 and Linksys 1.70.

Why do you suppose I get double the upload with the Buffalo ($16 refurb) but half to less than half that with my other, "better" routers?

Hmmmm?  Answer me that, you wizards!  :P   ;D   ;)

What are using to measure your upload speeds?  Speedtest.net is highly unreliable.  Google sustained speed test for more accurate tests.

Also when you reset the 4500 do not get on the web right away or use any internet device, it will screw up the 4500 upload speed tests.

Here is good website to test, pick the 17.5Meg test and post your results.
http://testmy.net/upload (http://testmy.net/upload)
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: kargo27 on December 05, 2011, 05:55:55 AM
OK, I was using manual upload on the DLink, the others, I don't recall.

On the sight that XS suggested I get 1.4 on my Linksys E4200.  I do normally use speedtest.net.

I just wonder why that cheap Buffalo got me double or more the upload speed of my better routers?

The UI of the Buffalo is a love/hate thing.  It's both simpler and harder to use than other UI's.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on December 05, 2011, 07:30:08 AM
Think you should send me that 4500 and let me run some tests on it sir.  >:(
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: kargo27 on December 05, 2011, 02:41:34 PM
Think you should send me that 4500 and let me run some tests on it sir.  >:(

I think I might just do that.  Do you need the power supply?
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on December 05, 2011, 02:53:53 PM
No just send the unit, don't even need to send antennas if you don't want too.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: kargo27 on December 05, 2011, 03:13:15 PM
OK, coolio.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: Hard Harry on December 06, 2011, 10:12:09 PM
Awesome Icon by the way Furry. I had a version as my Desktop for a while.

"Your effort to remain what you are is what limits you."
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on December 06, 2011, 10:29:33 PM
Has anyone been able to get on XBL and get the update this evening? I wasn't and got some status code. I see that XBL reported having problems too.

I love Ghost In a Shell.  ;D
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: JavaLawyer on December 07, 2011, 04:46:41 AM
Awesome Icon by the way Furry. I had a version as my Desktop for a while.

Call me naive, but what is that icon? The text is too small to discern.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: kargo27 on December 07, 2011, 06:23:27 AM
Call me naive, but what is that icon? The text is too small to discern.

+1 for us not as Geeky as you guys.  :P   :D
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on December 07, 2011, 07:00:09 AM
Go get Ghost In The Shell: Laughing Man DVD ir watch the Ghost In The Shell standalone complex DVD series.
It's a good adult cartoon. ;)

Call me naive, but what is that icon? The text is too small to discern.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: Hard Harry on December 07, 2011, 11:18:24 AM
I have. Though some of the App don't work. I got a error on the Epix app, and a error on a few movies in the Netflix App (though some worked). Looks like the Epix issue ia known outage. Here is a link to XBL Status. (http://support.xbox.com/en-US/xbox-live-status) Other stuff seems to be Zune and XBL Marketplace.

Overall I like the update. I thought I was going to dislike it, since I am not a fan of the Windows Phone GUI, but it works for the 360. I like the shortcut for Checking network settings, and playing a game right there.  Too bad you can't customize it...can you? The netflix app is soooo much better too. Watching series is easier, you can see so much more stuff, it plays picture previews for alot of stuff. Cloud storage isn't useful for me, since...well I don't go out much. Hehe. But for my brother, he loves it. Do you still have to import profiles I wonder? Or can it access your profile from the cloud too?

And yes, Ghost in the Shell is one of the best Japanima of all time. I would say Akira, Evangelion, Ghost in the Shell, Fist of the North Star,Ninja Scroll and Vampire Hunter D Bloodlust. Those are my favorites at least. Woot!
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: kargo27 on December 07, 2011, 12:41:53 PM
Has anyone been able to get on XBL and get the update this evening? I wasn't and got some status code. I see that XBL reported having problems too.

I love Ghost In a Shell.  ;D

I can't log on to XBL either.  I have internet connection but not to XBL so says the old XBL status page.  I'm not getting error codes but it's telling me I need to have port 3074 open.....which I do along with 53.  Hmmmmm, I'm on my e4200.

I know, I know, Furry will say "that's the problem right there!"  :P

EDIT: I had to turn the XBOX off and on 3 times and it finally downloaded the update.  Weird.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on December 07, 2011, 01:00:33 PM
See? Hehe.

Ya I got on XBL to day and got the update. Kinda nice.

BTW to those who are on my XBL list. They maybe me change my GT, again.  >:(
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: kargo27 on December 07, 2011, 01:11:27 PM
See? Hehe.

Ya I got on XBL to day and got the update. Kinda nice.

BTW to those who are on my XBL list. They maybe me change my GT, again.  >:(

OK, Fureee!  LOL!
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on December 07, 2011, 01:42:32 PM
 ::)
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: XS on December 07, 2011, 10:06:03 PM
See? Hehe.

Ya I got on XBL to day and got the update. Kinda nice.

BTW to those who are on my XBL list. They maybe me change my GT, again.  >:(

So whats up with the GT change?

Looks like it has been a challenge getting to play together! ??? ???
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on December 07, 2011, 10:20:37 PM
I think someone didn't like me telling them that if they didn't like us camping, then don't play the game. hehe. I had to change it yesterday. Play with this one guy the night before. I reported him too.  :P

People. Some don't understand about playing a first person shooter games use using tactics and experience to play. THey think let's just run around and shoot'em up. Not like that in the real world.  ::)

Oh well, I didn't pay for the change and still got furree out of it. hehe. I got one more if they make me change again. hehe.

Ya we need to play man. I was going to tonite but was kinda tired. I played some today. I'll probably be on tomorrow.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: Hard Harry on December 08, 2011, 03:46:48 AM
Wait, so your pro camping? Say it ain't so.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on December 08, 2011, 07:00:56 AM
MLP Camping Baby, woo hoo.

Wait, so your pro camping? Say it ain't so.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: Hard Harry on December 08, 2011, 10:14:55 PM
Why? Maybe I just don't get playing multiplayer games for points.(And isn't that camping is for? Points?) I thought the whole reason it's multiplayer is to play WITH them, not against them. Why would I care if I am better then them at a video game? Maybe its just me. ::shrug::
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on December 09, 2011, 07:05:17 AM
Doesn't any one else know about combat tactics and team work here? One of the reasons for camping is to have tactical advantage or to hold positions, sometimes. Yes your playing WITH and AGAINST them. CoD and some other first person shooter games are trying to be realistic on there scenarios and while playing, all kinds of gaming experiences can be done. Not everyone has to camp however when you have a good team that works as a team, some camping some running around like you, makes for a great game and a winning game. Ya it's for points however some games it's not always about points.  ::) I don't understand why some people don't understand that if your running around in real life military, you'll end up in a body bag sooner then later. So camping isn't actually a bad thing. Ya these are just games however there based on real life things so thats how I tend to play it.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: kargo27 on December 09, 2011, 12:56:44 PM
I think people have been brainwashed into thinking camping is a bad thing.

I don't have quicker reflexes than some kid so if I were to just run around the map, I get slaughtered.  Hell, even if I camp I get slaughtered, but not as bad.  :P
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on December 09, 2011, 01:16:12 PM
Such a NOOB Kargo.  :P
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: kargo27 on December 09, 2011, 02:31:39 PM
Such a NOOB Kargo.  :P

I'll always be a NOOB.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on December 09, 2011, 02:33:08 PM
Well if you got online more often pwayed wif us more you might shed that title SIR.  ::)
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: Hard Harry on December 10, 2011, 12:16:03 AM
Doesn't any one else know about combat tactics and team work here? One of the reasons for camping is to have tactical advantage or to hold positions, sometimes. Yes your playing WITH and AGAINST them. CoD and some other first person shooter games are trying to be realistic on there scenarios and while playing, all kinds of gaming experiences can be done. Not everyone has to camp however when you have a good team that works as a team, some camping some running around like you, makes for a great game and a winning game. Ya it's for points however some games it's not always about points.  ::) I don't understand why some people don't understand that if your running around in real life military, you'll end up in a body bag sooner then later. So camping isn't actually a bad thing. Ya these are just games however there based on real life things so thats how I tend to play it.

Your abusing a game mechanic. Your comparing it to real life? Really? You think playing a video game is anything like real life? Do people spawn in real life? Are there perks in real life? Do you have a mini map? Ofcourse not. So the game is nothing like real life. You taking advantage o***ame mechanic (one's inability where they spawn) for your team's personal gain. You talk about teamwork, but what about sportsmanship? A fair right between two teams and the one with the most skill coming out on top? Not cheap tricks and glitches.

But what ever, you free to play how ever you want. Just don't expect to be on my friends list.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on December 10, 2011, 10:53:35 AM
I agree that we disagree on the game thing man. I know it's not true to life games however the game makers of COD have always marketed it as such. The Look and "mechanics" of the game, they have marketed the game like this. Ya I know it's not true to life man. You don't have to tell me this. The things I see in the game I know would never hold up in the game. However, that doesn't mean we can try to play like real life and work as a team and enjoy the game. We call have different playing styles and some of these games allow for that. Not saying one style is better then the other. It's just a GAME and thats all it its. IMO, just get tired of hearing that people complain about playing styles, i.e. camping, when they have no concept of reason behind it and what teamwork means. Complaining about isn't "sportsmanship". Talking about it and maybe finding other ways to counter act that or play differently to get the better or win the game, not thats sportsmanship. Acting like camping is against the law, well, I don't wish any ill will on any one however, in a real life scenario, I don't think some of these people would last a second.  I play how I play, you play how you play. I can adjust and most times I do have to adjust to various maps and other play styles in the game which I find that camping doesn't work sometimes for me.

Again, it's just a game, different play styles, team work and or camping, it's just a game.

So I presume that you've booted me off your friends list now huh?  :(
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: XS on December 11, 2011, 02:57:57 PM
Harry,

I played with Furree and have no issue with his play style or anyone else that is on my FL.  If you are cool guy, I don't care how you play, I would rather play with 5 cool campers than 5 run and gunners who are ****** bags.

Do I like playing against campers? No, but they have the right to play how they want as well as anyone who bought the game. I can find a new lobby and just quit if it gets out of hand.  Heck sometimes I hate runner and gunners because usually they just have a great connection and a have second advantage on me.

People who cheat or hack are the real problem.

Anyway, sometime you have to play to your connection to get a kill and that may mean big time camping with marshmallows, lol.

We are all friends here! ;)
Title: $5 router anyone?
Post by: kargo27 on December 12, 2011, 10:54:32 AM
Heck even as an access point, you can't beat this deal for this NG.......

http://1saleaday.com/

Today only!

Shipping is probably $5, too.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: kargo27 on December 14, 2011, 10:29:34 AM
DLink Boxee $99 free shipping on refurb.

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Misc/null/pcmcat248000050016.c?id=pcmcat248000050016&AID=10597222&PID=3668349&URL=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.bestbuy.com%2Fsite%2FMisc%2Fnull%2Fpcmcat248000050016.c%3Fid%3Dpcmcat248000050016&cj=true&ref=39&CJPID=3668349&loc=01 (http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Misc/null/pcmcat248000050016.c?id=pcmcat248000050016&AID=10597222&PID=3668349&URL=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.bestbuy.com%2Fsite%2FMisc%2Fnull%2Fpcmcat248000050016.c%3Fid%3Dpcmcat248000050016&cj=true&ref=39&CJPID=3668349&loc=01)
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on December 14, 2011, 10:36:15 AM
Thats a great deal. Nice find Kargo.  ;)
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: XS on December 14, 2011, 01:23:10 PM
For those gamers that like to keep up with latest on COD news and info (patches).  Here is a good website that provides information on what the updates are supposed to address.  looks like the next update, 1.07 will help us router nerds out, lol.  I hope it helps with the lag since it's been real bad lately and I know its not me. ;D

http://mp1st.com/category/call-of-duty/mw3/ (http://mp1st.com/category/call-of-duty/mw3/)
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: kargo27 on December 14, 2011, 07:31:51 PM
Thats a great deal. Nice find Kargo.  ;)

Awwww yeah, boi!   ;)
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on December 15, 2011, 07:36:58 AM
I love mine.  :-*
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: kargo27 on December 22, 2011, 06:23:27 AM
DIR-665 NEW!

Good deal?  Looks to be.  A quick search on Google listed them for $150 up.

http://sellout.woot.com/sale/d-link-xtreme-n-dual-band-gigabit-router?utm_source=Daily+Digest&utm_campaign=e8667dc8cf-Daily+Digest+-+20111222+-+Woot&utm_medium=email#tracked (http://sellout.woot.com/sale/d-link-xtreme-n-dual-band-gigabit-router?utm_source=Daily+Digest&utm_campaign=e8667dc8cf-Daily+Digest+-+20111222+-+Woot&utm_medium=email#tracked)
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on December 22, 2011, 11:17:04 AM
I would post that i the 655 forum as well Kargo
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: kargo27 on December 22, 2011, 12:37:10 PM
I would post that i the 655 forum as well Kargo

okey dokey
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on December 24, 2011, 07:54:59 PM
Merry Christmas everyone. Happy Holidays.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: JavaLawyer on December 25, 2011, 07:34:09 AM
Happy Holidays
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: kargo27 on December 26, 2011, 07:29:39 AM
Belated Merry Christmas, Happy Hanukkah and Happy New Year!
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: LookIntoMyEyees on December 26, 2011, 01:39:41 PM
Happy Holidays, I don't get much time anymore.. Hope you guys are doing great!

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Post by: Hard Harry on December 26, 2011, 04:37:49 PM
Hey Guys,

Don't worry, I'm not dead. Just went on a vacation and then been busy with the holidays. Hope everyone is well. Happy Holidays!!!
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Post by: FurryNutz on December 26, 2011, 05:55:46 PM
Hey Harry and LIME, good to hear from you guys. Happy Holidays.
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Post by: kargo27 on December 30, 2011, 01:34:05 PM
Hey Harry and LIME, good to hear from you guys. Happy Holidays.

Ditto here!  Glad to see you guys poking your heads in!

Off topic, I'm watching Anderson Cooper's "Anderson" and he along with a couple guests are called picky adult eaters.  They only eat the same things over and over.

Anderson isn't as bad but will eat the same thing for lunch every day - baked turkey with 2 servings of corn, cranberry sauce for the turkey and a cornbread roll.  He doesn't eat green veggies.

A lady on there says she eats nothing but French Fries and has done so for over 50 years.  She's very overweight but I'm surprised that she hasn't gotten cancer or diabetes.

Man, I love veggies.  I'm a bit overweight by about 30 lbs., but I try to eat fruits and veggies every day along with whatever bad food I'm eating.  I think they're missing out on some great foods with this disorder they have.
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Post by: XS on December 30, 2011, 04:19:33 PM
Happy New Year guys!!!  I know a little early but I may not be coherent tomorrow, lol.  Stay safe!!!
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Post by: kargo27 on December 31, 2011, 09:05:48 AM
Happy New Year guys!!!  I know a little early but I may not be coherent tomorrow, lol.  Stay safe!!!

Happy New Year, XS!

Happy New Year, All!
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Post by: JavaLawyer on January 01, 2012, 08:06:00 AM
Happy New Year
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Post by: FurryNutz on January 01, 2012, 01:24:10 PM
Happy New Year
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Post by: fraggboy on January 09, 2012, 09:50:22 AM
Is anyone attending CES this year?  I will be there.  I normally don't see any exhibitors at the Venetian, but D-Link is there, so I will be checking them out this year.

D-Link Systems, Inc.
Booths: , SC-1
Venetian Exhibitor Suites - Suite 31-217
Venetian Meeting Rooms - Murano 3301B, Veronese 2501B


Hope they have some cool products to unveil.  More specifically their GamerLounge line.
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Post by: JavaLawyer on January 09, 2012, 10:08:02 AM
Is anyone attending CES this year?  I will be there.  I normally don't see any exhibitors at the Venetian, but D-Link is there, so I will be checking them out this year.

D-Link Systems, Inc.
Booths: , SC-1
Venetian Exhibitor Suites - Suite 31-217
Venetian Meeting Rooms - Murano 3301B, Veronese 2501B


Hope they have some cool products to unveil.  More specifically their GamerLounge line.

Please post what you see (along with some photos). . . We're all waiting to see what D-Link has lined up for the next year.
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Post by: FurryNutz on January 09, 2012, 10:19:40 AM
Kewl, you can be our link for CES and D-Link. Keep us posted FB. I wish I could go.  ::)
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Post by: fraggboy on January 09, 2012, 10:27:50 AM
I will take some photos and get as much info on all of their new products for the community here. :)
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Post by: JavaLawyer on January 11, 2012, 04:27:37 AM
D-Link router news:

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Post by: LookIntoMyEyees on January 11, 2012, 07:20:50 PM
Spammer! NOOO!!!

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Post by: FurryNutz on January 12, 2012, 10:43:01 AM
Interesting twist to a mouse.
NewGamingMouse (http://www.maximumpc.com/article/reviews/worldexclusive_review_rat7_best_gaming_mouse_ever_0)
I haven't seen a new take on the mouse in a while.

Wonder if D-Link will do the same thing:
1300Mbps? (http://www.maximumpc.com/article/news/trendnet_gets_trippy_1300mbps_ac_router_500mbps_powerline_adapter)
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Post by: JavaLawyer on January 12, 2012, 11:09:08 AM
Interesting twist to a mouse.
NewGamingMouse (http://www.maximumpc.com/article/reviews/worldexclusive_review_rat7_best_gaming_mouse_ever_0)
I haven't seen a new take on the mouse in a while.

Yeah, the R.A.T. was first released approximately 2-3 years ago with periodic revisions. I'm not that hardcore o***amer to get one of those.
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Post by: FurryNutz on January 12, 2012, 11:22:23 AM
Me either, looks cool though...wonder how it does for daily use.
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Post by: fraggboy on January 13, 2012, 12:32:25 PM
Guys, sorry for the delay.  I tried to get video of the new lineup at D-Link's booth at CES for 3 days.  Every time I got home, and played the video, I had this high-pitched squealing throughout the video.  At first, I thought it was my cam and was devastated thinking my other videos I took that day were ruined.  But, the other videos turned out fine without it.

I recorded 2 more times and they were still the same.

The links Java posted was what they had at CES. 
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Post by: FurryNutz on January 13, 2012, 12:38:07 PM
Darn, would have been nice to see that. Sorry the videos were bad. Wonder what happened.
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Post by: fraggboy on January 13, 2012, 03:11:38 PM
I don't know what happened!!  The first time I viewed them I was like realllly mad.  Cause that same day, I recorded video of Justin Bieber unveiling the new robot from Tosy, mRobo.

The second day I was like  ???  Some kind of interference with my cam.  They used wireless mics, but I didn't have any interference with other recordings.. Maybe with that area.. :(
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Post by: kargo27 on January 13, 2012, 07:41:27 PM
D-Link router news:

  • Maximum PC - D-Link Announces New Routers of All Shapes and Sizes (http://www.maximumpc.com/article/news/d-link_announces_new_routers_all_shapes_and_sizes)
  • PR Newswire - D-Link Brings Comprehensive Cloud Services to Home Networking and Unveils Industry's First Sub-$50 Cloud Router (http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/d-link-brings-comprehensive-cloud-services-to-home-networking-and-unveils-industrys-first-sub-50-cloud-router-136999683.html)

I like your post on Maximum PC!   ;D
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Post by: JavaLawyer on January 14, 2012, 07:09:12 AM
I like your post on Maximum PC!   ;D

Thanks. . . Robert and I had to set the naysayers straight.  ;)
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Post by: FurryNutz on January 14, 2012, 10:48:08 AM
I personally think that some of the media or journal outlets or biased. Thats me though; ::)
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Post by: kargo27 on January 15, 2012, 04:08:04 PM
Ahhh, nicely played, dudes.   :D
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Post by: JavaLawyer on January 16, 2012, 05:23:03 AM
I personally think that some of the media or journal outlets or biased. Thats me though; ::)

I'm sure you're right about that. From where I sit, the magazines (electronic/paper) always seem to have their short list of favored manufacturers they consistently review, while everyone else is either given a short blurb or left out altogether.
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Post by: FurryNutz on January 29, 2012, 09:02:38 AM
Morning everyone.  ;D
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Post by: LookIntoMyEyees on February 02, 2012, 04:40:33 PM
Look at the new king of gaming! http://usa.asus.com/Networks/Wireless_Routers/RTN66U/

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Chris
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Post by: FurryNutz on February 02, 2012, 04:47:13 PM
Another router to compete with the NG 900 Gb and D-Links DIR-857. The 4500 still reigns supreme.  ;D

http://amplifi.dlink.com/products/DIR-857 (http://amplifi.dlink.com/products/DIR-857)
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Post by: FurryNutz on February 17, 2012, 10:35:45 AM
And speaking of the devil:
http://forums.dlink.com/index.php?board=297.0 (http://forums.dlink.com/index.php?board=297.0)
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Post by: Hard Harry on February 17, 2012, 12:07:12 PM
Another router to compete with the NG 900 Gb and D-Links DIR-857. The 4500 still reigns supreme.  ;D

http://amplifi.dlink.com/products/DIR-857 (http://amplifi.dlink.com/products/DIR-857)

Well I am going to be setting up my Asus RT-N66U (which should come in next week) at my dads. Maybe after I get my hands on a 857, I could send it to you and you could give it a try? Thinking about loading dd-wrt on it first (if available by then)
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Post by: FurryNutz on February 17, 2012, 12:48:33 PM
I would be interested in testing that out sometime in the near future and when your ready too. I think were going to be busy playing with routers. Will be nice to gain some experience on other Mfr HW. I know Karl's been chomping at the bit to do something new.  ;D When we do test that Asus, please don't load WRT on it. I'm looking for OEM FW experiences here if possible. I've already had some experiences with WRT on a NG 3700.  ::)


I still have other testing routers handy as well. Even thought they seem like they are becoming generation now.  ::)
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Post by: FurryNutz on February 21, 2012, 09:29:11 AM
Interesting article on new Super WiFi:
https://docs.google.com/open?id=0B87wL7scXNdhN2IyYTAwOGEtNDc3Zi00Nzc2LTlhM2ItZDdkYTNmY2NkM2Jm (https://docs.google.com/open?id=0B87wL7scXNdhN2IyYTAwOGEtNDc3Zi00Nzc2LTlhM2ItZDdkYTNmY2NkM2Jm)
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Post by: fraggboy on February 21, 2012, 12:11:58 PM
Interesting article on new Super WiFi:
https://docs.google.com/open?id=0B87wL7scXNdhN2IyYTAwOGEtNDc3Zi00Nzc2LTlhM2ItZDdkYTNmY2NkM2Jm (https://docs.google.com/open?id=0B87wL7scXNdhN2IyYTAwOGEtNDc3Zi00Nzc2LTlhM2ItZDdkYTNmY2NkM2Jm)

I don't know if that would benefit certain residential areas.  My neighborhood is congested with 2.4GHz AP's that it affected my throughput so much, I had to move to 5GHz and use powerline for my other devices (360/DirecTV).

What is to happen when the Super WiFi network gets blasted in a neighborhood?  It's going to interfere with the other AP's that people are using.  Not good in my book!
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Post by: Hard Harry on February 23, 2012, 12:04:33 AM
Someone didn't read the article.  :D :D :D

Hehe, just kidding. But seriously, Super Wi-Fi is a Alliance over seen standard using the 802.11u protocol on 470-690Mhz range of bandwidth which is no where near G's and N's 2.4 and 5Ghz. It will interfere with your G and N no more then your 2.4 interferes with your 5Ghz. Now don't get me wrong, there are lots of things it WILL interfere with, heh, just not Wifi. Some cellular tech, and would probably horrible to any cable networks disposed to ingress (AZ I am looking at your).

PS. Hahaha, ****e "having a natural inclination or tendency to something; disposed;" is seen as a bad word. Wow, Dlink knows better slang then I.
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Post by: LookIntoMyEyees on February 23, 2012, 01:16:59 PM
Nice video on the new Asus RT-N66U
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pYCnyOb5O4c&feature=player_embedded

 Also I tried my DGL 4500 again because a friend of mines needs a router, too bad I couldn't get it to work :( I don't want to throw it out because it looks too sexy lol. See you around!

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Post by: FurryNutz on February 23, 2012, 01:17:49 PM
Why can't you get the 4500 to work?  ???

Whats wrong with it?
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Post by: LookIntoMyEyees on February 23, 2012, 01:21:45 PM
Why can't you get the 4500 to work?  ???

Whats wrong with it?

 I posted a while back about it I believe, anyways the wireless radio died on it :( Everytime I check the display I see the channels going random from 1-800 which is crazy because there's only 11 channels. Oh well RIP DGL-4500.

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Post by: XS on February 23, 2012, 01:26:28 PM
Didn't someone post a link how to swap out the radio PCB?
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Post by: LookIntoMyEyees on February 23, 2012, 01:27:40 PM
Didn't someone post a link how to swap out the radio PCB?

 Yea its removable, I opened it but never touched it since I don't have the replacement.

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Post by: FurryNutz on February 23, 2012, 01:28:11 PM
You still have it? have you turned off the WiFi radio and use it with out the Wifi? You could still use the Router part and connect up say a DAP-1525 to it ;).
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Post by: LookIntoMyEyees on February 23, 2012, 01:30:31 PM
You still have it? have you turned off the WiFi radio and use it with out the Wifi? You could still use the Router part and connect up say a DAP-1525 to it ;).

 No its not in use no more, I got a n56u back in December when it died on me. But now they finally announced the N66U what a bummer.

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Post by: FurryNutz on February 23, 2012, 01:32:30 PM
well it would be a good back up router I guess if you need one.
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Post by: LookIntoMyEyees on February 23, 2012, 01:37:13 PM
well it would be a good back up router I guess if you need one.

 Yea its still my baby lol, I will miss that beautiful screen and the epic look of it. I mean I still haven't seen a router that looks that great, It has a WPS button that lights up in blue! awesome! lol I also miss that.. Now on the N56U you press the WPS button and you will never know if it activated -_-. Maybe I don't like change or maybe its that the N56 ain't as cool, but it is definitely faster than the 4500.

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Post by: FurryNutz on February 23, 2012, 01:41:40 PM
I think the 825 can hold a candle to the 4500 and other routers day. Ya it doesnt' have the LCD screen however it's a very fast and solid router. I'm glad I bought a used one on here. Im sure the next gen routers will be even better.  ;D
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Post by: XS on February 23, 2012, 03:28:12 PM
  but it is definitely faster than the 4500.

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Watch it there!!! Your review on newegg on the DGL is one the reasons I bought it over the 56, well that and about a difference of $80!!!! lol. ;D
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Post by: LookIntoMyEyees on February 23, 2012, 03:57:32 PM
Watch it there!!! Your review on newegg on the DGL is one the reasons I bought it over the 56, well that and about a difference of $80!!!! lol. ;D

 I'm flattered that you bought the 4500 based on my review! :) But I myself don't remember what I wrote lol. But even though that I said the 56 was faster, the 4500 is still a great and beautiful router and I wouldn't trade it for nothing. (Unless it dies than buy a new router)

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Chris
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Post by: XS on February 23, 2012, 04:18:23 PM
Or maybe someone elses review mentioned your user name here on D-link forums, well regardless you are guilty by association. ;D
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Post by: LookIntoMyEyees on February 23, 2012, 06:05:20 PM
Why does it show me email to the public even though I selected ide -_-, can anyone double check if they can see my email on my account? Ty :)

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Post by: XS on February 24, 2012, 05:51:25 AM
I see this when I click on your profile:
Email:    hidden
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Post by: fraggboy on February 24, 2012, 08:59:53 AM
Why does it show me email to the public even though I selected ide -_-, can anyone double check if they can see my email on my account? Ty :)

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I see my email address when I look at my profile also, but I have it set to be hidden also.  I'm sure it shows your email address to make sure it's correct.
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Post by: LookIntoMyEyees on February 24, 2012, 02:48:43 PM
I see this when I click on your profile:
Email:    hidden

 Cool, thanks for checking :)

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Post by: LookIntoMyEyees on February 29, 2012, 06:54:45 PM
New ISP changes Woot! and aww :( Well Yesterday My ISP upgraded my area and now they provide 5 downstream channels! that's a big bump from 3, now I am so mad that my SBV6220 only supports 4 channels! Arg (runs fast to get a new modem!!) What has your ISP been doing lately?

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Chris
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Post by: fraggboy on March 01, 2012, 08:49:37 AM
What has your ISP been doing lately?

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Chris

Taking my money and not adding any more bandwidth, ROFL..   ;D  No complaints really. Stable as a rock, and a quick connection for the price.
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Post by: XS on March 01, 2012, 02:00:37 PM
Yep rate increase of $4, Odd I keep losing money and everything else keeps going up, the rich get richer and the poorer get poorer.
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Post by: LookIntoMyEyees on March 03, 2012, 12:48:15 PM
Ouch that's bad news.. But at least its better than the wireless carriers :)

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Post by: LookIntoMyEyees on March 08, 2012, 06:57:48 AM
Okay, I had the tech came out today and replaced my Motorola modem and now I am running on a new ARRIS DOCSIS 3.0 TM822G, its capable of 8/4! The differences in speed is only a little. as for the 5th channel bonding the tech told me its not yet ready for the area but its being set up, but I do got the 4th...

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Post by: FurryNutz on March 08, 2012, 07:10:36 AM
What Motorola modem did you have?
Good luck with ARRIS.  :P
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Post by: LookIntoMyEyees on March 08, 2012, 07:58:07 AM
What Motorola modem did you have?
Good luck with ARRIS.  :P

 Arris is not that bad I assume, it does have a more advance filter and software compared to Motorola (I just read the box and assumed lol :P) As for the Motorola modem I had the motorola sbv6220 which is exactly the sbv120 but instead it has telephone input.

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Post by: FurryNutz on March 08, 2012, 08:05:35 AM
Ah I see, you have phone svc thru the modem as well?

Then you probably need that then.

I prefer not to use Arris as they have been problematic in setting up with external routers.
I use the SB 6180 (http://www.motorola.com/staticfiles/Support/US-EN/Home-and-Office/Cable-Modems-and-Gateways/SB6180-SURFboard-Cable-Modem/Documents/SB6180_DataSheet.pdf) now.  ;D
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Post by: LookIntoMyEyees on March 08, 2012, 08:24:39 AM
Ah I see, you have phone svc thru the modem as well?

Then you probably need that then.

I prefer not to use Arris as they have been problematic in setting up with external routers.
I use the SB 6180 (http://www.motorola.com/staticfiles/Support/US-EN/Home-and-Office/Cable-Modems-and-Gateways/SB6180-SURFboard-Cable-Modem/Documents/SB6180_DataSheet.pdf) now.  ;D

 Nice, I tried searching for it but didn't come up and no I do not use the Phone service but since my ISP provides it, all their modems have it, but I am fine with it since there's no fee for the modem, they replace it and provide it to you for free as long as your a customer. How many downstream C is your ISP providing you Furry?

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Post by: FurryNutz on March 08, 2012, 08:28:11 AM
Bonding at 4 right now. Last time I looked. They did run a test a bonding 4 UP however they stopped it. Wish they would turn that on again. Oh well for 50/2, it's pretty good. Nice and stable.
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Post by: LookIntoMyEyees on March 08, 2012, 08:34:32 AM
Bonding at 4 right now. Last time I looked. They did run a test a bonding 4 UP however they stopped it. Wish they would turn that on again. Oh well for 50/2, it's pretty good. Nice and stable.

Cool! The way things looks the USA is getting up to speed, slowly but surely. Okay I will see you around I am going to go play BF3, got the day off from class and I am going to use my time like a boss lol. Also what are your thoughts on the PsVita?

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Post by: FurryNutz on March 08, 2012, 08:44:41 AM
Havn't used it.  ;) Enjoy BF3.
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Post by: fraggboy on March 16, 2012, 02:08:58 PM
Anyone planning on going to EDC in Vegas this year?
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Post by: FurryNutz on March 16, 2012, 02:24:14 PM
I wish. Headed to TX for family reunion then back east to visit dear ol dad.
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Post by: fraggboy on March 16, 2012, 02:26:55 PM
**Shudders** Texas in summer??   :(  I feel for ya. I remember when I went to the family reunion in Galveston, TX during the summer.  Man, I stayed indoors the WHOLE time.. :(

I can stand heat, but it has to be a dry heat.
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Post by: FurryNutz on March 16, 2012, 02:35:46 PM
I know...Not sure what it will be like as I've only been to the DFW airport a couple of times so this will be my first official visit outside the airport. LOL. Will be in June.
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Post by: fraggboy on March 16, 2012, 02:40:44 PM
Oh NO!!!  If you are used to humidity, you will be fine.  If you aren't, plan on feeling the humidity once the plane opens up the door.  Once you go outside, it hits you hard! Stay indoors as much as possible.  ;)
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Post by: FurryNutz on April 02, 2012, 05:42:50 PM
Just FYI, one of our fearless forum leaders, Lycan, has returned to the forum. We welcome him back.
 ;)
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Post by: JavaLawyer on April 02, 2012, 06:42:30 PM
Yeah, I saw his post on the DIR-857 board earlier this evening.
We can use the additional support!  :)
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Post by: FurryNutz on April 03, 2012, 08:24:54 PM
http://forums.dlink.com/index.php?topic=47336.0 (http://forums.dlink.com/index.php?topic=47336.0)
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Post by: Hard Harry on April 04, 2012, 02:12:41 AM
Yea..I hear he is a real "Garou" of technical knowledge. ::slaps knee::
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Post by: JavaLawyer on April 04, 2012, 06:05:15 AM
http://forums.dlink.com/index.php?topic=47336.0 (http://forums.dlink.com/index.php?topic=47336.0)

Does this constitute a U.S. release?  :-\
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Post by: FurryNutz on April 04, 2012, 06:57:22 AM
Yep.
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Post by: XS on April 05, 2012, 08:03:37 AM
What's the difference between HD fuel and game fuel?
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Post by: FurryNutz on April 05, 2012, 08:04:37 AM
It's the next gen GF engine. I don't have any specifics on it however it seems to work very well.
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Post by: JavaLawyer on April 05, 2012, 09:08:06 AM
Article on MaximumPC: Arizona Wants to Outlaw Trolling (http://www.maximumpc.com/article/news/arizona_wants_outlaw_trolling_banning_annoying_comments)

Anyone here live in AZ?  ;D
Look out Arizona trollers, we're watching you!  :o
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Post by: FurryNutz on April 05, 2012, 09:11:14 AM
We'll add a line to the Welcome message: "Arizona trollers will be imprisoned"  ::)
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Post by: JavaLawyer on April 05, 2012, 09:12:52 AM
Great idea Robert, where did you come up with that?  ;)
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Post by: XS on April 05, 2012, 09:14:07 AM
Uh oh! I am from AZ!!! :o
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: JavaLawyer on April 05, 2012, 09:16:26 AM
Uh oh! I am from AZ!!! :o

SIR, please step away from your keyboard. You have the right to remain silent, anything you post can and will be used against you in a court of cyberlaw. ;)
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: XS on April 05, 2012, 09:27:52 AM
I just trolled some friends on FB! woot woot!
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on April 05, 2012, 09:33:34 AM
SIR, we care confiscating ALL of your computer devices and hardware.

I just trolled some friends on FB! woot woot!
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: XS on April 05, 2012, 10:10:27 AM
(http://troll.me/images/the-most-interesting-man-in-the-world/i-dont-always-troll-but-when-i-do.jpg)

I am so going to get banned from the internet!
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: JavaLawyer on April 05, 2012, 10:20:33 AM
(http://troll.me/images/the-most-interesting-man-in-the-world/i-dont-always-troll-but-when-i-do.jpg)

I am so going to get banned from the internet!

Don't worry, I'll represent you.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on April 05, 2012, 10:20:53 AM
If AZ state has there way.  >:(
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on April 12, 2012, 12:05:44 PM
Yay, 10k for me!!! WOO HOO!!!  ;D

(http://i1195.photobucket.com/albums/aa396/furrynutz740il/10K.jpg)
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Post by: JavaLawyer on April 12, 2012, 12:12:00 PM
Yay, 10k for me!!! WOO HOO!!!  ;D

Congratulations.  Here's to the next 10,000!  :D
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: LookIntoMyEyees on April 12, 2012, 04:05:52 PM
Yay, 10k for me!!! WOO HOO!!!  ;D


Congrats! A lot of hard work and a lot of users have been helped! you deserve this to be happy!

--
Chris


Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on April 18, 2012, 09:21:36 AM
Hope everyone likes the new FAQ Library. Wanted to clean up the stickys some.  ::)
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on April 23, 2012, 07:14:53 AM
http://forums.dlink.com/index.php?topic=46926.0 (http://forums.dlink.com/index.php?topic=46926.0)
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: kargo27 on April 28, 2012, 08:24:57 AM
Hey dudes!  Sorry I've been away, I'd switched to UVerse and wasn't using my DLink but because their data quality was so horrible I went back to Charter high speed.   ;D

How is everyone?
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Post by: FurryNutz on April 28, 2012, 08:31:02 AM
Glad ur back. We missed you. Doing great here. Hope to play again soon.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: kargo27 on April 28, 2012, 11:33:08 AM
Kewl, missed you guys, too.

I'd jump on XBL but I've got either a stomach bug or food poisoning.  Not feeling well, kinda tired.  Hopefully it'll pass soon.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on April 28, 2012, 01:05:55 PM
Sorry to hear that bud...i send you a PM asking about XBL before I saw this. I hope you get to feelin better.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: kargo27 on April 29, 2012, 08:09:35 AM
Sorry to hear that bud...i send you a PM asking about XBL before I saw this. I hope you get to feelin better.

I hope I didn't scandalize your friend with all my cursing yesterday!   :D

BTW, I'm running the 601 right now just for fun.
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Post by: FurryNutz on April 29, 2012, 08:33:33 AM
He's just as bad as you are SIR! LOL
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: kargo27 on April 29, 2012, 11:00:26 AM
He's just as bad as you are SIR! LOL

Oh, good!  When I'm tired or not feeling well, I curse more.  Like an old codger!
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on April 29, 2012, 02:29:43 PM
You dont day.  :o
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on May 01, 2012, 07:19:08 AM
You play xbox Frag?
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: fraggboy on May 01, 2012, 11:01:35 AM
I do, but haven't had time in a while to jump on and play.  I've been neglecting the 360 for quite some time now. :(

I have been busy with work and working out of town that I haven't had time to sit down and relax.  When I'm off and home, the 'honey do-list' is long, which keeps me busy and out of trouble.
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Post by: FurryNutz on May 01, 2012, 11:40:04 AM
well playing xbox can keep you out of trouble too. Hehe. Well maybe we can play sometime if you get some time.  ;)
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: fraggboy on May 01, 2012, 12:02:14 PM
You jinxed me. I wasn't planning on flying out of town this week. Now, my boss said that I'm leaving for SD in the morning and staying the rest of the week there.   :P

You do have a point about the 360 keeping one out of trouble, but I don't have time to even think about it, ROFL.

One of these days, that would be great to play online with you and whomever else wants to join.
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Post by: FurryNutz on May 01, 2012, 12:56:46 PM
 :o It wasn't me, honestly, I didn't call ur boss up just and tell him anything really. HEHE.

Well hope your trip will be good. Sorry you can't stay home and pway wif me and Kargo and XS.  ;) Will keep an eye out for ya. Keep us posted when you get sometime.  ::)
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Post by: fraggboy on May 01, 2012, 03:39:27 PM
Sounds like a plan.  :)
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on May 03, 2012, 07:13:06 PM
Don't let Kargo send anything to you in the mail:  ::)

(http://i1195.photobucket.com/albums/aa396/furrynutz740il/IMG_0323.jpg)

(http://i1195.photobucket.com/albums/aa396/furrynutz740il/IMG_0324.jpg)

Poor little 601.  :'(
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: fraggboy on May 03, 2012, 08:32:53 PM
(http://www.phonecan.com/media/blogs/phonecan/rip.jpg)

Superglue to the rescue!!!  Unfortunately it will only be 'stuck' and won't be able to swivel.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: kargo27 on May 05, 2012, 10:22:20 PM
Well, I did wrap it in that air-wrap packaging and shook it to make sure it didn't fall out.  Stupid USPS.  I did insure it, ya know!
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on May 05, 2012, 10:35:13 PM
Try bubble wrap next time SIRRRRR!  ::)
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: kargo27 on May 05, 2012, 10:41:03 PM
Try bubble wrap next time SIRRRRR!  ::)

Ugh.  I told you I didn't have any!   ::)

So....did you get it to work?  I found it "buggie", but it used to work well.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: kargo27 on May 05, 2012, 10:43:00 PM
What's this one?  I don't see a forum listed for it.  I kind of like the 8 ports it has!

http://www.gearxs.com/D-Link-Wireless-N-8-Port-Router-w-300Mbps-Data-Rate?filter_name=d-link (http://www.gearxs.com/D-Link-Wireless-N-8-Port-Router-w-300Mbps-Data-Rate?filter_name=d-link)
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on May 06, 2012, 08:55:17 AM
Its a DIR 632, it posted on the 635 forum.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on May 06, 2012, 08:58:15 AM
Ugh.  I told you I didn't have any!   ::)

So....did you get it to work?  I found it "buggie", but it used to work well.

Ya seems kinds buggy, thought about putting v1.01 back on it and see. Been ok other wise. It wont connect higher than 65mb on wifi. Will do ok for general use. Will chk out xbl today I hope.
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Post by: kargo27 on May 06, 2012, 11:09:38 AM
Its a DIR 632, it posted on the 635 forum.

Is it any good?
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Post by: FurryNutz on May 06, 2012, 11:13:29 AM
No exp with it...
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on May 09, 2012, 07:25:22 AM
For all you Xbox gamers:
Nex Gen XBox (http://www.maximumpc.com/article/news/production_may_have_started_microsofts_next_xbox_console)
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on May 09, 2012, 08:54:33 AM
EA Games (http://www.maximumpc.com/article/news/ea_invest_80_million_next_generation_console_game_development)
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Post by: kargo27 on May 09, 2012, 07:47:51 PM
Very cool, can't wait!  ;D
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Post by: XS on May 09, 2012, 09:51:01 PM
EA Games (http://www.maximumpc.com/article/news/ea_invest_80_million_next_generation_console_game_development)

Too bad EA sucks!
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: JavaLawyer on May 10, 2012, 05:59:37 AM
Check this out: D-Link DIR-605L Cloud Router - CNET Video Review (http://cnettv.cnet.com/d-link-dir-605l-cloud-router/9742-1_53-50124497.html)
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on May 10, 2012, 07:05:03 AM
Theres also a 826L, and a 636L too.  ;)
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: JavaLawyer on May 11, 2012, 10:32:14 AM
Is Microsoft Bringing Internet Explorer To The Xbox 360 Console? (http://www.maximumpc.com/article/news/microsoft_bringing_internet_explorer_xbox_360_console)
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on May 11, 2012, 11:19:58 AM
Really need a browser on the xbox?  ::)
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: fraggboy on May 11, 2012, 12:54:21 PM
That's what I was thinking.  My360 does what it needs to do.. Serve up games.  I don't need an "all-in-one device" that can do everything.  I don't want the bloated IE installed..

When I want to search, I'll get on my laptop.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: kargo27 on May 13, 2012, 04:49:50 PM
Have any of you searched the price for our DGL-4500's recently?  They've gone up in price.  I've seen on ebay used one's going for $70.

"New" ones are going for over $200.

http://www.buy.com/pr/product.aspx?sku=206533465&sellerid=11796268 (http://www.buy.com/pr/product.aspx?sku=206533465&sellerid=11796268)
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on May 13, 2012, 06:05:23 PM
Wow, I've seen a few that are still in stock in some places, $275 is just too much.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: fraggboy on May 13, 2012, 06:23:33 PM
Well, the 4500 is a very stable product.  Supply in demand going on??
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: kargo27 on May 13, 2012, 08:53:12 PM
Well, the 4500 is a very stable product.  Supply and demand going on??

That's what I'm thinking!
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: XS on May 14, 2012, 09:25:27 PM
haha, makes me happy to own a 4500 but asking/paying over $200 is just stupid, lol.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: kargo27 on May 15, 2012, 06:20:03 AM
Yeah, I also see that people are still buying/using the WRT54GL by Linksys.  What's up with that old technology???
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: fraggboy on May 15, 2012, 08:31:19 AM
Yeah, I also see that people are still buying/using the WRT54GL by Linksys.  What's up with that old technology???

Maybe to flash DD-WRT on them??   ???
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: kargo27 on May 15, 2012, 09:44:46 AM
Maybe to flash DD-WRT on them??   ???

Oh yeah, definitely that, but do you think that it's better or as good as a router that's 6 years newer?  I wonder if it's kind of a cult-following?
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: fraggboy on May 15, 2012, 10:03:01 AM
I guess it could be possible.  If a newer router is limited by the firmware, then I could see where an older router running DD-WRT would trump a newer router.

..Just my $0.02.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on May 15, 2012, 08:43:23 PM
I would think that using WRT and using older routers would have some benefits, however still, they are limited by the chipset and the HW there in and I would think that some of those still using those routers might be missing out on the newer or next generation HW and features in routers being seen today.  ::)
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: kargo27 on May 15, 2012, 09:12:18 PM
Seriously, when you have time go to ebay and do a search for those old Linksys WRT54G(L) or whatever they are.  Tons of them and some are new in box.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: JavaLawyer on May 21, 2012, 11:34:57 AM
Hardcore gaming mouse: Thermaltake's Black Element Cyclone Edition Mouse Blows (Thanks To Detachable Fan) (http://www.maximumpc.com/article/news/thermaltakes_black_element_cyclone_edition_mouse_blows_thanks_detachable_fan)  ::)
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: fraggboy on May 21, 2012, 11:36:44 AM
Wow.. I guess if you have a lot of disposable income, and have money to burn for that mouse..
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on May 21, 2012, 11:38:58 AM
I remember there was an xbox control with fans built, keep the hands cool. I wanted one however aren't made anymore. This might be cool to have. No pun intended.  ::)
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: JavaLawyer on May 21, 2012, 11:40:12 AM
I'm waiting for a water-cooled version. Passive air fans are so passe ::)
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on May 21, 2012, 11:56:36 AM
I want a picture of that Java  ::)
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: kargo27 on May 21, 2012, 05:45:30 PM
I remember there was an xbox control with fans built, keep the hands cool. I wanted one however aren't made anymore. This might be cool to have. No pun intended.  ::)

Here's one but it's wired.

http://www.wired.com/geekdad/tag/fan-cooled/ (http://www.wired.com/geekdad/tag/fan-cooled/)
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: fraggboy on May 22, 2012, 08:48:54 AM
I want a picture of that Java  ::)

Furry,

Here you go.    ;D

(http://www.jsantascoy.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/7swims.jpg)
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on May 22, 2012, 09:33:05 AM
LMAO, TOO FUNNY. I needed that. Your awesome Fragg.  :D
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: kargo27 on May 22, 2012, 02:33:48 PM
Oh duh!  Air cooled gaming MOUSE.  I was thinking gaming controller.   ::)
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on May 22, 2012, 02:53:54 PM
Get your mind off MW3.  ::)
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: kargo27 on May 23, 2012, 07:54:13 PM
Get your mind off MW3.  ::)

I probably have early onset Alzheimer's.   :-\
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on May 23, 2012, 07:56:07 PM
Ok Grampa, your so old.  ::)
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: kargo27 on May 23, 2012, 08:07:20 PM
I wonder if D-Link is working on Gigabit WiFi.

http://www.buy.com/prod/netgear-r6300-wifi-router-802-11ac-dual-band-gigabit/231474025.html (http://www.buy.com/prod/netgear-r6300-wifi-router-802-11ac-dual-band-gigabit/231474025.html)

What devices out there support 5.0 GHz ac?   ???
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Post by: FurryNutz on May 23, 2012, 08:11:44 PM
ZERO!  ::)
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: kargo27 on May 23, 2012, 08:15:23 PM
ZERO!  ::)

LOL!  That would be like having the fastest car in the world but having only gravel roads loaded with pot holes.  You can't take it to it's potential.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on May 23, 2012, 08:16:44 PM
or having freeways with 100mph speed limits however cars that only can do 65Mph  ;D
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: kargo27 on May 23, 2012, 08:28:42 PM
or having freeways with 100mph speed limits however cars that only can do 65Mph  ;D

Remember the Yugo?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Yugo-US-poster.jpg (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Yugo-US-poster.jpg)
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on May 23, 2012, 08:30:32 PM
Yes, Remember Le Car?
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: kargo27 on May 23, 2012, 08:35:20 PM
Yes, Remember Le Car?

I do!  By Renault.

I ordered this T shirt:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/YUGO-automobile-tshirt-CLASSIC-1980s-car-t-shirt-COOL-/140537330860?pt=US_Mens_Tshirts&var=&hash=item20b8ad7cac#ht_2163wt_1037 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/YUGO-automobile-tshirt-CLASSIC-1980s-car-t-shirt-COOL-/140537330860?pt=US_Mens_Tshirts&var=&hash=item20b8ad7cac#ht_2163wt_1037)
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: Kamikazi2142 on May 29, 2012, 07:41:13 AM
banana's?
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: fraggboy on June 06, 2012, 08:13:15 AM
Anyone going to EDC this year?
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on June 06, 2012, 08:20:38 AM
I wish. Never been to one. I'm going to TX this year.   ::) Oh yay. Have to make a house call I think>Hey Kargo, hows the weather down there? Should I bring shorts?
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: JavaLawyer on June 11, 2012, 12:24:54 PM
MaximumPC: New Technology Brings On-Demand, Tactile Buttons To Touchscreen Devices (http://www.maximumpc.com/article/news/new_technology_brings_-demand_tactile_buttons_touchscreen_devices)

 :o
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on June 15, 2012, 09:28:39 AM
New Mfr Router enters the pool:
Western Digital (http://www.wdc.com/en/products/network/routers/)

Reviews:
Cnet (http://reviews.cnet.com/routers/western-digital-my-net/4505-3319_7-35331596.html)
Forbes (http://www.forbes.com/sites/alicetruong/2012/06/14/western-digital-unveils-routers-designed-to-speed-up-home-entertainment/)
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: JavaLawyer on June 15, 2012, 11:05:32 AM
I'm curious where WD acquired the technology to roll out these products. Do they have a recent acquisition on record?  :-\
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on June 15, 2012, 03:48:45 PM
 :-\ Don't know.
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: XS on June 16, 2012, 10:46:01 PM
That's crazy!
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: JavaLawyer on June 19, 2012, 10:56:37 AM
Microsoft Branded Tablet (http://www.maximumpc.com/article/news/microsoft_announces_own-brand_surface_tablets) (Watch the embedded Video)
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on June 19, 2012, 11:18:50 AM
Looks like another LT.  ::)
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: JavaLawyer on June 21, 2012, 06:35:47 AM
Google's Reaction to Microsoft Surface: A Mixture of Surprise and Skepticism (http://www.maximumpc.com/article/news/googles_reaction_microsoft_surface_mixture_surprise_and_skepticism)
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: JavaLawyer on June 22, 2012, 11:21:23 AM
And continuing...

TechRadar - How Microsoft Kept the Surface Tablet A Secret (http://www.techradar.com/news/mobile-computing/tablets/how-microsoft-kept-surface-tablet-a-secret-1086116)

 ::) ::) ::)
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on July 08, 2012, 10:23:25 PM
Charter Stops Supporting Customer Owned Modems (http://www.dslreports.com/shownews/Charter-Stops-Supporting-Customer-Owned-Modems-120059)

Hope anyone isn't on Charter.  :-\
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: fraggboy on July 09, 2012, 12:33:51 PM
Charter Stops Supporting Customer Owned Modems (http://www.dslreports.com/shownews/Charter-Stops-Supporting-Customer-Owned-Modems-120059)

Hope anyone isn't on Charter.  :-\

Ouch!! Price increase.. Thankfully I'm not on Charter.  >:(
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on July 17, 2012, 08:25:23 AM
New DIR-865L CLoud Router Ships (http://forums.dlink.com/index.php?board=327.0)

Let the A/C wars begin.  ::)
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: JavaLawyer on July 19, 2012, 07:05:49 AM
4000!!!  :D
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on July 19, 2012, 07:08:31 AM
4001...Congrats  ;D
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: JavaLawyer on July 19, 2012, 07:14:29 AM
4001...Congrats  ;D

I would like to thank the Academy and all those who made this possible.   :'(

(http://www.awardscircuit.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/oscar.jpg)
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Post by: FurryNutz on July 19, 2012, 07:15:38 AM
 :o
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on July 19, 2012, 09:55:35 AM
Since I helped you attain your award, I think you should buy me one of these:
http://www.dlinkshop.com/store?Action=DisplayProductDetailsPage&SiteID=dlink&CallingPageID=HomePage&ProductID=250032700 (http://www.dlinkshop.com/store?Action=DisplayProductDetailsPage&SiteID=dlink&CallingPageID=HomePage&ProductID=250032700)
 ;D
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: JavaLawyer on July 19, 2012, 10:05:31 AM
Since I helped you attain your award, I think you should buy me one of these:
http://www.dlinkshop.com/store?Action=DisplayProductDetailsPage&SiteID=dlink&CallingPageID=HomePage&ProductID=250032700 (http://www.dlinkshop.com/store?Action=DisplayProductDetailsPage&SiteID=dlink&CallingPageID=HomePage&ProductID=250032700)
 ;D

I'm still waiting for my Skittles.   :D
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on July 19, 2012, 10:15:48 AM
I'll send you a big bag to ya. Of course I'll need a shipping address sir.  :P
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on August 03, 2012, 12:47:05 PM
Verizon is Willfully Driving DSL Users Into the Arms of Cable (http://www.dslreports.com/shownews/Verizon-is-Willfully-Driving-DSL-Users-Into-the-Arms-of-Cable-120473)
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Post by: FurryNutz on August 16, 2012, 12:20:51 PM
12000k Now. Woo hoo.  ;D Ok, 12001  ::)
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Post by: JavaLawyer on August 16, 2012, 12:23:37 PM
Congratulations.  7,999 to go until 20,000!
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Post by: LookIntoMyEyees on August 16, 2012, 01:07:06 PM
Congrats! FurryNutz FTW!

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Chris
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Post by: FurryNutz on August 16, 2012, 01:08:48 PM
Hey LIME, Thanks man. Good seein ya.
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Post by: LookIntoMyEyees on August 16, 2012, 01:11:23 PM
Hey LIME, Thanks man. Good seein ya.

 I will always be lurking around, on these forums :) I just don't need to reply since we already have a genius on our hands! Keep up all the good work.

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Chris
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Post by: FurryNutz on August 16, 2012, 01:13:43 PM
Awe, thanks. I wouldn't be that much of one with out all you guys helping out as well.  ;)
Hows that router working? You still have it or have you moved on to something else?  ???
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Post by: LookIntoMyEyees on August 16, 2012, 01:24:01 PM
It kicked long enough and than I replaced it with a RT-N56U. It's now the second fastest ranked router :) dam new models releasing. I need to upgrade :( but that can wait.

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Chris
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Post by: FurryNutz on August 16, 2012, 01:26:38 PM
AH kewl. Ya, my 4500 is working as an AP now. Been using the DIR-857 for a bit now. Doing great. I got a DIR-835 coming tomorrow to test out. Thinkin about a DIR-865L too.  ::)
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Post by: LookIntoMyEyees on August 16, 2012, 01:30:58 PM
You sure been busy testing out routers, is the DIR - 857 getting updates by D link?

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Chris
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Post by: FurryNutz on August 16, 2012, 01:32:34 PM
Just got it's 2nd one last month. Seemed to fix a couple of issues we saw in first couple of versions. Router is very solid. Most routers I've tested out are pretty good for what they are and what I do with them. Not bad.
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Post by: LookIntoMyEyees on August 16, 2012, 01:44:54 PM
Cool, Even though  have the Asus one, My favorite router has been the 4500, that display always made me feel cool :) I Miss it :( D link should continue the Gaming routers,  DGL - 4600 extreme low latency gaming killing machine router < Yup that would be the best name -_-!

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Chris
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Post by: FurryNutz on August 16, 2012, 01:49:22 PM
I know. Going to miss the DGL line man. I always hoped they'd do a DGL-5000, dual band wifi, killer gamefule and such. Oh well. I've been impressed by the DIR-645 and 655 routers as well. Even the DIR-825 holds a candle to the 4500. Was my first DIR series router after the 4500. The 857 is very good too. I Wish they would keep the external antennas though.  ::) All good things come to an end sometime.  :-\
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Post by: LookIntoMyEyees on August 16, 2012, 02:14:06 PM
Unfortunately your right, all good things do come to an end :(

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Chris
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Post by: XS on August 18, 2012, 12:34:42 PM
It kicked long enough and than I replaced it with a RT-N56U. It's now the second fastest ranked router :) dam new models releasing. I need to upgrade :( but that can wait.

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Chris

Hey Chris,

How does the asus stack up against the 4500?   I always wondered if I picked the right router when I decided to go with 4500 last year...
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Post by: FurryNutz on August 18, 2012, 02:46:03 PM
Why do you think the 4500 might not have been a good pick for you?
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Post by: XS on August 18, 2012, 04:49:18 PM
No reason, I was deciding between the two, that's all.
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Post by: LookIntoMyEyees on August 20, 2012, 03:22:35 PM
Hey Chris,

How does the asus stack up against the 4500?   I always wondered if I picked the right router when I decided to go with 4500 last year...

 I am sorry for such a late reply, I always tend to reply quickly since I get my eMail notification -_-. Problem was that I changed my eMail password on my account and forgot to do the same on my iPhone so I didn't get a notification. Anyways the N56U is ranked the fastest router and it is faster, much more faster than the 4500. Although the 4500 had better tune up and settings, the 56U seems to lack a nice interface and there are no static IP addresses. To put it simply the 56U is faster by a lot, but it is not better in functionality IMO. Have a great day :)

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Chris
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Post by: XS on August 20, 2012, 05:29:15 PM
Thanks Chris, I may have to pick one of these up and try it out!
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Post by: LookIntoMyEyees on August 20, 2012, 06:09:00 PM
Thanks Chris, I may have to pick one of these up and try it out!

Just don't pick up the 56U cause the new version is now the king and it probably has more features.
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Post by: FurryNutz on September 04, 2012, 08:44:28 AM
Hope you are locking down your Wireless.  ::)
Hacked-Router-Results-in-600-Bandwidth-Bill (http://www.dslreports.com/shownews/Hacked-Router-Results-in-600-Bandwidth-Bill-121024)
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Post by: kargo27 on September 04, 2012, 07:24:58 PM
Hope you are locking down your Wireless.  ::)
Hacked-Router-Results-in-600-Bandwidth-Bill (http://www.dslreports.com/shownews/Hacked-Router-Results-in-600-Bandwidth-Bill-121024)


Yikes!  WPA2-AES for me!
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Post by: FurryNutz on September 07, 2012, 08:30:19 AM
Next Gen xBox Delayed 2014 (http://semiaccurate.com/2012/09/04/microsoft-xbox-next-delay-rumors-abound/)
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Post by: kargo27 on September 08, 2012, 12:05:29 PM
Next Gen xBox Delayed 2014 (http://semiaccurate.com/2012/09/04/microsoft-xbox-next-delay-rumors-abound/)

 :(
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Post by: FurryNutz on September 20, 2012, 09:13:02 AM
AT&T Highlights Plan to Hang up on POTS, DSL (http://www.dslreports.com/shownews/ATT-Highlights-Plan-to-Hang-up-on-POTS-DSL-121285)
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on September 26, 2012, 09:57:42 AM
Verizon Again Confirms No Future FiOS Expansion (http://www.dslreports.com/shownews/Verizon-Again-Confirms-No-Future-FiOS-Expansion-121365)
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Post by: FurryNutz on September 26, 2012, 10:03:31 AM
Verizon: Sorry About Devastating Fire... (http://www.dslreports.com/shownews/Verizon-Sorry-About-Devastating-Fire-Pay-Us-2345-121353)
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on October 02, 2012, 01:44:37 PM
Time Warner Cable Modem Lease Fee Expands (http://www.dslreports.com/shownews/Time-Warner-Cable-Modem-Lease-Fee-Expands-121453)
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on October 03, 2012, 02:12:24 PM
ISPs Afraid to Push Six Strikes Launch Button (http://www.dslreports.com/shownews/ISPs-Afraid-to-Push-Six-Strikes-Launch-Button-121460)
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on October 17, 2012, 09:10:56 AM
AT&T Hanging Up on Millions of DSL Users (http://www.dslreports.com/shownews/ATT-Hanging-Up-on-Millions-of-DSL-Users-121654)
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Post by: FurryNutz on October 17, 2012, 09:11:32 AM
Time Warner Cable Expands New Modem Fee (http://www.dslreports.com/shownews/Time-Warner-Cable-Expands-New-Modem-Fee-121657)
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Post by: FurryNutz on October 22, 2012, 09:46:16 AM
The Future of Wireless Networks (http://forwardthinking.pcmag.com/none/303730-the-future-of-wireless-networks)
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Post by: FurryNutz on October 31, 2012, 07:43:55 AM
Our thoughts and best wishes go out to many people and D-Link forum users effected by the hurricane Sandy that hit the NE U.S.  :'(

We hope that recovery and clean up will be as fast and humanly possible and we'll see our D-Link users back online for those who were effected by the storm.

Please maintain any form of contact where needed, letting users know if help is needed, that we are here for them and any one needing help.

We hope for a speedy recovery in this time of need.

Furry.
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Post by: FurryNutz on November 01, 2012, 01:17:36 PM
DOCSIS v3.1 on the horizon (http://www.lightreading.com/document.asp?doc_id=226477&site=lr_cable&f_src=lightreading_sitedefault)
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on November 05, 2012, 10:40:18 AM
User Impressions of Comcast's New 305 Mbps Service (http://www.dslreports.com/shownews/User-Impressions-of-Comcasts-New-305-Mbps-Service-121906)
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Post by: FurryNutz on November 14, 2012, 12:58:01 PM
Time Warner Cable Sued Over Modem Rental Fee (http://www.dslreports.com/shownews/122037)
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Post by: FurryNutz on November 16, 2012, 08:41:04 AM
Wireless AC1200 Dual Band USB Adapter - DWA-182 (http://forums.dlink.com/index.php?topic=51205.0)
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Post by: FurryNutz on November 26, 2012, 08:15:49 AM
Cyber Monday Only 11/2012
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833127436 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833127436)

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833127358 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833127358)

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833127422 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833127422)
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Post by: FurryNutz on November 26, 2012, 08:32:41 AM
DIR-856L on sale with code DLINKXXR43 code. Ends 11/27/2012 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833127432)
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Post by: LookIntoMyEyees on November 29, 2012, 03:47:35 PM
Hey buddies!

Nice seeing FurryNutz still helping out around here :)

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Chris
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Post by: FurryNutz on November 29, 2012, 04:42:29 PM
Nice too see you around too sir.  :P
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Post by: XS on November 29, 2012, 06:30:41 PM
I am probably the only one around here that still uses the 4500 exclusively! ;)
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Post by: FurryNutz on November 29, 2012, 06:31:29 PM
maybe.  :P
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Post by: LookIntoMyEyees on November 29, 2012, 09:11:45 PM
I still got mines but ever since the wireless died I never tried it again. Furry is a Global forum moderator! Oh man that's awesome! and hey XS i still remember you :)

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Chris
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Post by: XS on November 29, 2012, 09:19:55 PM
Me to Chris!  Especially "the eye"!  ;D Yeah Furry should be getting some royalties from D-link!  Good to see a good man helping people out nowadays!  You go Furry!!! :D
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Post by: FurryNutz on December 03, 2012, 07:31:59 AM
Lets congratulate JavaLawyer on hitting 5000 posts.
;D Woo Hoo  ;D
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Post by: JavaLawyer on December 03, 2012, 07:33:06 AM
Thank you. . . Thank you. . .   :-[
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Post by: FurryNutz on December 03, 2012, 07:57:51 AM
Now BACK TO WORK!!!  >:(
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Post by: JavaLawyer on December 03, 2012, 08:02:28 AM
Now BACK TO WORK!!!  >:(

I never stopped working. . .  ;)
(Now please stop interrupting me.  :D  :D  :D )
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Post by: FurryNutz on December 03, 2012, 08:04:34 AM
 :P
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Post by: FurryNutz on December 04, 2012, 07:38:20 AM
2 Day Amazon Sale on ALL D-Link Routers (http://www.amazon.com/gp/feature.html/ref=br_lf_m_1000863501_grlink_4?ie=UTF8&docId=1000863501&plgroup=4&mkt_tok=3RkMMJWWfF9wsRonvKTIZKXonjHpfsX96%2B0kXqO%2BlMI%2F0ER3fOvrPUfGjI4ATMpmI%2FqLAzICFpZo2FFcFumbd5NZ6Q%3D%3D)
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Post by: XS on December 13, 2012, 02:00:59 PM
2 Day Amazon Sale on ALL D-Link Routers (http://www.amazon.com/gp/feature.html/ref=br_lf_m_1000863501_grlink_4?ie=UTF8&docId=1000863501&plgroup=4&mkt_tok=3RkMMJWWfF9wsRonvKTIZKXonjHpfsX96%2B0kXqO%2BlMI%2F0ER3fOvrPUfGjI4ATMpmI%2FqLAzICFpZo2FFcFumbd5NZ6Q%3D%3D)

Holy smokes! yeah maybe if I won the lottery, I could afford one of those!!!
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Post by: FurryNutz on December 13, 2012, 02:07:32 PM
Oh come now...there not that spendy, hehe.  ::)
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Post by: FurryNutz on January 07, 2013, 12:40:37 PM
Atheros Joins the Cloud Router Shift (http://www.dslreports.com/shownews/Atheros-Joins-the-Cloud-Router-Shift-122643)
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Post by: FurryNutz on January 07, 2013, 07:01:30 PM
For those of you who dreamt of the next gen DGL series router, Prepare yourselves!!! (http://reviews.cnet.com/routers/d-link-dgl-5500/4505-3319_7-35566998.html)

OMG!!!  :o
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Post by: XS on January 07, 2013, 09:04:21 PM
For those of you who dreamt of the next gen DGL series router, Prepare yourselves!!! (http://reviews.cnet.com/routers/d-link-dgl-5500/4505-3319_7-35566998.html)

OMG!!!  :o

Is this what your XBL message was referring too???
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Post by: FurryNutz on January 07, 2013, 09:12:27 PM
Yep  ;D
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Post by: XS on January 07, 2013, 09:14:45 PM
Looks good brah!!!! I may have to pick one of these bad boys up!!! let me know what you think since you will probably be one of the first to try it out!
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Post by: LookIntoMyEyees on January 07, 2013, 09:24:54 PM
(http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/400x/29848595.jpg)

Hi guys!

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Chris
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Post by: FurryNutz on January 07, 2013, 09:26:46 PM
LOL way funny man. Ya, hoping to get my hands one one. Had this idea a couple years back. Talked about it here. DIdn't think they were gonna do a follow on. LOL. They proved me wrong. Hope it's even better than the 4500. Can't wait.
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Post by: LookIntoMyEyees on January 07, 2013, 09:30:20 PM
I am going to look into this router, these past years I have become an Asus fan boy. Their router are total kick ass and so far they still hold the fastest spot :) I am really excited for the new DGL but I am a bit sad it lost the screen :( Everyone that always saw the router loved the screen.

(http://asset1.cbsistatic.com/cnwk.1d/i/tim/2013/01/06/DGL-5500_BACK_610x560.jpg)

I saw the CES conference where they talked a little about Streamboost, If it works I will be impress. It is a smart idea though instead of giving priority it gives the exact amount of bandwidth to the leasers. But I still have my doubts.

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Chris

PS, Thanks Furry for posting this.
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Post by: FurryNutz on January 07, 2013, 09:40:43 PM
Ya, I think if they can make it work...hoping the Gaming and multiple xboxes or game consoles will work well. Going to be SAAWEEEET!
 
Maybe we'll see you more on the forums again LIME?  :o
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Post by: MintBubbleSpawn on January 08, 2013, 02:08:40 AM
Glad to see the DGL lives! I will be picking this up on Release Day!!
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Post by: XS on January 08, 2013, 02:23:05 AM
Saving money already!!!! ;D
Title: Re: OT Conversations regarding not much or nothing or something...
Post by: FurryNutz on January 08, 2013, 12:15:16 PM
FYI, DLink is running a giveaway on FaceBook. Check it out.  ;)
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Post by: LookIntoMyEyees on January 08, 2013, 12:35:15 PM
It will be amazing to see what CPU it runs on etc, Not that routers need a whole lot of power but the more the smoother I would say, this is also the first router to use streamboost. I hope D link does a great job on this router and the support last. I will make up my mind in the upcoming month.

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Chris
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Post by: FurryNutz on January 08, 2013,