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Title: we want ipv6
Post by: alien on August 20, 2010, 03:30:07 AM
When do we get IPV6!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: we want ipv6
Post by: andrii on May 05, 2011, 03:03:43 PM
Title: Re: we want ipv6
Post by: Syaoran on May 23, 2011, 06:30:49 PM
This router definitely should get IPv6 considering the DIR-825 (lower end) is getting it.  If we don't, you can definitely expect a complaint with the BBB from me and my promise that I will never EVER purchase or recommend another D-Link product ever again.
Title: Re: we want ipv6
Post by: FurryNutz on May 24, 2011, 08:17:22 AM
You do realize that when the 855 went to market it didn't tout that it supported IPv6 right? I doubt the BBB would take heed to your complaint about a feature that was not built in or marketed as such on this router in the first place. If you really need IPv6, the 825 does have this option. Have you tried this router? Might work for you instead of the 855.

Have you doe anything with IPv6 yet?
Does your ISP provide IPv6 support yet?
Title: Re: we want ipv6
Post by: Syaoran on May 24, 2011, 08:28:20 AM
Why should I have to downgrade for IPv6?  If D-Link rleleases a DIR-865 or something that is basically this router but with IPv6, then I'll consider buying it.  The BBB doesn't do much of anything useful but provide a record for unhappy customers that's independent of the company.  My ISP is working to support this by early next year at the earliest. 
Title: Re: we want ipv6
Post by: FurryNutz on May 24, 2011, 08:53:03 AM
Well i'm sure that most ISP are working towards getting IPv6 in place. However implementing IPv6 is going to take a lot of work and resources as it needs to start with the Internet back bone, DNS domains, then OEMs, vendors, Software and applications. Some ISPs might not get it going until much later on. Not saying that they wont here, just trying to be realistic here. Theres much more to IPv6 than just having it on a router man. The average home user probably wont even use it let along worry about it. If your talking next year then I would try to be more patient and see what your ISP does. My ISP has been talking about supporting DOCSIS 3 since last year, they finally got it going and I was able to upgrade to a DOCSIS 3 modem just this year about 4 months ago. Home users will be the last to see upgrades and such IMO. We need to be patient and give up stream the time to get IPv6 in place. Besides, home users don't have to worry about running out of IPs. I'd rather have a well putt together IPv6 service than something thats rushed and doesn't work well and makes everyone unhappy.

Next Gen routers from DLink:http://reviews.cnet.com/routers/d-link-hd-media/4505-3319_7-34468655.html (http://reviews.cnet.com/routers/d-link-hd-media/4505-3319_7-34468655.html)

IPv6 articles:
http://www.zdnet.com/blog/networking/who-has-and-who-doesn-8217t-have-ipv6-support/981?tag=nl.e539 (http://www.zdnet.com/blog/networking/who-has-and-who-doesn-8217t-have-ipv6-support/981?tag=nl.e539)

http://www.zdnet.com/blog/networking/how-far-has-the-internet-come-with-ipv6-adoption/967?tag=mantle_skin;content (http://www.zdnet.com/blog/networking/how-far-has-the-internet-come-with-ipv6-adoption/967?tag=mantle_skin;content)

In meantime, why not check out some IPv6 classes or courses and see if thats something that is a benefit to you while your waiting for it. I took a class, isn't as easy as it sounds.  ::)
Title: Re: we want ipv6
Post by: Syaoran on May 24, 2011, 09:07:06 AM
Looking at the DIR-857, there's not much difference between it and my DIR-855.  I can stream 1080P content over the wireless N withut any issues already.  The only real differences are is the shell of the unit, the USB 3.0 port, and probably some newer revisions of the hardware that is already in the DIR-855.  Doesn't sound even remotely close to being good enough to get me to sink another $300 on a router for.  Thanks for providing the link though.  In terms of cable providers, we've had a DOCSIS 3 implementation in my area for close to 2 years now. 
Title: Re: we want ipv6
Post by: FurryNutz on May 24, 2011, 09:11:54 AM
Thats kewl. It took my ISP couple of years go get it going and just only now that I heard that they have up'd the speed packages. I'm happy with 10Mb/1Mb.

I would presume the 855 is a good router and once IPv6 get closer to being home user supported then I'm sure we'll see router OEMs start to get it either handed out in FW updates or just in newer generation routers. Just have to wait and see man.
Title: Re: we want ipv6
Post by: Syaoran on May 24, 2011, 09:28:45 AM
I've got DSL because the upstream offered by my local cable provider is a joke.  50Mbit down is nice but only 2Mbit up sucks!  My current DSL service gives me 25Mbit down and 7Mbit up.  They are also rulling out a new higher end plan over the next couple of months.  50Mbit down with 10Mbit up.  I am definitely looking forward to it. 

The DIR-855 is a great router!  Unfortunately, it went through some rough firmware issues with earlier firware revisions but a lot of routers go through this as well.  Before the DIR-855, I had a DGL-4500 that just didn't cut it.  That was also plagued with horrible firmware issues as well.  With the 123WW05B firmware, this router performs as it should of at launch.  Hopefully with the DIR-857, it won't take 2 years for D-Link to get the router upto the standard it is sold at like it did with the DIR-855.
Title: Re: we want ipv6
Post by: FurryNutz on May 24, 2011, 10:00:46 AM
Wow, must be nice. LOL. Well enjoy it man. Thats good speeds for that package. I need to see what my ISP offers now. Not sure that I need that much though. 10 and 1 been doing great here. Game mostly and general internet.

Well they finally got the 4500 worked out with v1.22. Still have both of mine. Love them and think there still the best router ever. My opinion.  ::) Ya they don't dual WiFi like the 8 series do but love the gaming aspect. I've got a 825 online now and been playing with it some. Doing pretty good.

I think most OEMS have issues with there FW and HW. I bought a competitor router last year and wow, what a might mare on there forums, FW and HW. The router was pretty good, just didn't seem to be as good as the 4500 or 825. if you really think Dlink products are that bad, try looking into the forums for the competitor brands. You might find it interesting.  ::) We are not alone.
Title: Re: we want ipv6
Post by: Syaoran on May 24, 2011, 10:24:22 AM
I don't necessarily think D-Link products are bad.  I just wish more time, development, and testing went into their firmware releases before they released them.  I hote to mention Linksys but their third party firmware pretty much keeps them in business.  It really would be nice to have something like that on the D-Link side.  I got rid of my DGL-4500 at 1.12.  I just couldn't deal with it being that unreliable.  The main issues with the DIR-855 were heavy wireless useage causing lockups and that was even the case for some wired.  Limiting the use on the 5GHz N (set to N only) helped keep it stable for me until they fixed the issues.  1.23NA was great only needing a reset every few weeks but the 1.23WW05 seemed to be the solution that worked best for me. 

I do a lot of gaming and working from home.  When I game though, I'm usually hosting so that's one of the big bonuses to have a good upstream.  Uploading websites also and even some torrent seeding can eat up an upstream really fast.  The GameFuel settings on the DGL series can pretty much re replicated within other features on the DIR.  Pushing Blu-Ray movies to the TV though on the N only 5GHz band doesn't interfere with my gaming on Wii, DSi, 3DS that are all on the 2.4GHz G band. 
Title: Re: we want ipv6
Post by: FurryNutz on May 24, 2011, 10:36:51 AM
ya, most of the DIRs have good QoS that I've been able to use as the same as Gamefuel. I did notice that priorities are not as variable on my 825 as the 4500 though. On the 4500 I can set from 1-255, on the 825, I can only set 1-8? Might be better that way or maybe different implementation of QoS. Been working well with the same settings I use for gaming on the 4500. Wow, must have been a bad unit. I just old a 4500 that had 1.12 on it. Worked well for me. I wanted to see if I could downgrade the unit. Got it to work.

I agree, and it's not only Dlink either, I wish all OEMs would do a bit more QA and development on there devices and coding. I think there alot of corners that are cut when people can't afford or make cuts in spending when in development and testing. Of course, comes down to money and people. Back in the 80's people said they wanted things cheaper, and look what we got.  ::)

Ya you need N 5Ghz for 1080p movies and is best for it. I'm opposite here, all is wired. Wireless is kept for iPhones and laptops and guests. I'm a firm believer in wired if it's at all possible. I know it's not for everyone. Wireless works well on single modes and try to keep the modes mostly used by current devices. Using A or B modes doesn't seem to be a priority and you don't get better range with them on. Why I like single or G and N mixed mostly. Been using Boxee and streaming from my Windows 7 server. Doing well. It's to far from the boxee to the router for WiFi so wired is best. Even on 5Ghz, it kept buffering and stalling. Oh well, hope the new theater room will be better this year.  ;D
Title: Re: we want ipv6
Post by: Syaoran on May 24, 2011, 11:05:35 AM
I have a hard wired Blu-Ray player and XBOX 360 but the Wii, handhelds and even my HTC cell all work well off of G.  I've hosted 12 player Mario Kart Wii over G without any issues.  I think it has a lot to do with my upstream though and really knowing how to configure the router currectly with and/or without QoS.  I hardly use even close to half of the range so lower end models missing more than half of it isn't a big deal for most. 

If I ever go wired for everything, I'm going to need an 8 port version of the the DIR-857, which brings me to another point.  Why aren't the high-end models like the new DIR-857 available in an 8 port version?  With 2 desktops, 1 notebook, an XBOX 360, and 2 Ethernet enabled Blu-Ray player for YouTube and NetFlix.  I'd like to have all of those wired without having to put a switch in.  The Wii, Brother color laser printer, HTC phone, DSi, and 3DS would all still be fine for WiFi implementations and I could actually setup more of a home server instead of storing the stuff on local systems.
Title: Re: we want ipv6
Post by: FurryNutz on May 24, 2011, 11:13:29 AM
It probably comes down to cost. Switches are fairly inexpensive and are easier to connect and add to the router. I think they just give you 4 ports as most average house holds only need 4. Ya, growing technology and growth of devices in the house hold seems to be growing in the past 10 years. 4 ports just doesn't cut it some some of us people who like toys. I added a 24pt to my system here half of it us used up already. I connect both xboxes direct to the router, all other devices are off the switch, and adding a switch to the mix helps off load major file xfers between devices too and cut down on unnecessary router processing and interference.
Title: Re: we want ipv6
Post by: Syaoran on May 24, 2011, 11:34:33 AM
That's why a switch doesn't really seem practical for me.  Too many high bandwidth devices to limit to the speed of just one Gigabit Ethernet port.  There are times when Netflix is streaming and the XBOX 360 is gaming online at the same time so confining both to a single switch would impact both significantly.  For the average home user, bridging without DHCP can overwhelm some people  One of my cousins had to have me come visit because he couldn't get 2 DGL-4300's to work with an access point.  What a mess that was too just because of the way he wanted things.  One DGL-4300 in the office, one wired underground into the tractor shed, and the access point picking up the signal of the one in the shed to get coverage over most of the property.  There are web enabled devices in the tractor shed which is why he went wired for that.  I would of done it a lot differently but that was what he had to work with and it all works with some effort and patience. 
Title: Re: we want ipv6
Post by: FurryNutz on May 24, 2011, 11:50:29 AM
Under stand that man. Well, dealing with routers and trying to make them into AP is a pain and you have to remember, making routers into something that they are not really designed for, less you get on that is, can be a hassle. Why recommend to most people, use 1 dedicated router and if you need to extend or add on, use dedicated APs or relay or extender devices to help out. 2 routers trying to do that same thing on the same line is not a good idea in the first place.

As for a switch. I would reconsider using one man. You wouldn't see any drop in rates and would probably help you out. I know I enjoy mine. We Netflix and game and someone works from the home too. I've learned to setup QoS for those devices online at the same time as to give a good balanced bandwidth to those when gaming and online. Switches are good things.  ;D
Title: Re: we want ipv6
Post by: jysnmat on June 03, 2011, 08:52:39 AM
I want ipv6 as well.
Title: Re: we want ipv6
Post by: FurryNutz on June 03, 2011, 09:00:51 AM
Some reading:
http://forums.dlink.com/index.php?topic=5381.0 (http://forums.dlink.com/index.php?topic=5381.0)
Title: Re: we want ipv6
Post by: FurryNutz on June 04, 2011, 09:35:49 AM
http://www.pcworld.com/businesscenter/article/229362/what_your_business_can_expect_on_world_ipv6_day.html (http://www.pcworld.com/businesscenter/article/229362/what_your_business_can_expect_on_world_ipv6_day.html)
Title: Re: we want ipv6
Post by: FurryNutz on June 08, 2011, 12:17:35 PM
http://www.dlink.com/ipv6 (http://www.dlink.com/ipv6)