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Title: Print Server works inconsistently
Post by: chaz_lehmann on May 29, 2010, 12:32:08 PM
One of the primary reasons I purchased a DNS 323 as opposed to other network storage options was the print server.

My printer is a Brother HL-1440.  When I first installed it according to the instructions in the DNS-323 manual I had no problem.  It worked for a day or two perfectly.  Now, about a week later, it works only for brief happy moments in the midst of hours of rebooting, reinstalling the printer, etc.

Nothing seems to be working right now.

I'm using Windows 7 (64-bit).  The printer window for the networked printer will show printing about 30 seconds after I send a job to it and continue to show that for about two minutes, then it switches to pause.  Nothing prints.

I've tried all of the following:

*clearing the print queue.
*power cycling both the DNS 323 and the printer (together or individually)
*uninstalling and reinstalling the printer

Suggestions?
Title: Re: Print Server works inconsistently
Post by: fordem on May 29, 2010, 12:57:56 PM
Does the printer work properly when connected directly to the computer?
Title: Re: Print Server works inconsistently
Post by: chaz_lehmann on May 29, 2010, 01:24:39 PM
Yes.  Perfectly.
Title: Re: Print Server works inconsistently
Post by: gunrunnerjohn on May 29, 2010, 01:34:07 PM
I'd have to lay this at the feet of the printer or print driver.  I've currently run a brother HL-5140 on mine, and I was running a Canon MF3110 and before that an HP PSC-750.  All of these printers worked perfectly on the print server of the DNS-323 under a variety of firmware versions over the span of almost three years.
Title: Re: Print Server works inconsistently
Post by: chaz_lehmann on May 29, 2010, 01:48:42 PM
So, it's the printer/driver's fault even though the driver I'm using now is identical to the driver I use when the printer operates perfectly when attached to the PC?  This isn't making sense to me.  I did just check to make sure that the driver is up to date.  It is.
Title: Re: Print Server works inconsistently
Post by: gunrunnerjohn on May 29, 2010, 02:08:31 PM
You're forgetting you're using a networked printer vs. a locally attached printer, it's not the same thing.  Canon is infamous for issues with networking, I had all sorts of driver issues with my Canon before I got it working.  It worked fine connected directly to the machine.
Title: Re: Print Server works inconsistently
Post by: chaz_lehmann on May 29, 2010, 02:10:29 PM
So, is "it's an issue with the driver" the last word or is there a way I can go about trying to solve the problem?
Title: Re: Print Server works inconsistently
Post by: chaz_lehmann on May 29, 2010, 02:40:16 PM
Someone posted elsewhere that they got the printer to work using an XP driver (but they were running Vista 64).  So I've tried every 64 bit driver for the HL-1440 going back to XP with no luck.

I'd appreciate other suggestions on what to try.
Title: Re: Print Server works inconsistently
Post by: gunrunnerjohn on May 29, 2010, 03:24:40 PM
Well, for my Canon printer, I resorted to using a generic driver for a totally different printer which works. :)
Title: Re: Print Server works inconsistently
Post by: chaz_lehmann on May 29, 2010, 03:27:50 PM
How did you figure out which generic driver to use?
Title: Re: Print Server works inconsistently
Post by: gunrunnerjohn on May 29, 2010, 03:30:44 PM
Trial and error! :D
Title: Re: Print Server works inconsistently
Post by: fordem on May 30, 2010, 08:46:11 AM
Although I have no personal experience with a networked Canon printer I'd be tempted to agree with gunrunnerjohn - what he is describing there is very similar to my experience with HP printers, right down to the trial and error method of finding a driver that works.

What he has not mentioned, maybe he hasn't experienced it, is that this "pattern" holds true even for other print servers - I've installed many different brands of print server in the last decade and the printer drivers have been the biggest bugbear.
Title: Re: Print Server works inconsistently
Post by: gunrunnerjohn on May 30, 2010, 08:53:00 AM
Yep, for some reason, USB printers just don't like to deal with being connected to a print server.  I didn't have any issues with my HP PSC-750 apart from the obvious that I couldn't use the scanner remotely, but I know lots of people that have had issues getting USB print servers to function correctly.

It's best to start with generic "network" drivers if they're offered, and not the full-up installation package like HP provides.
Title: Re: Print Server works inconsistently
Post by: dosborne on May 30, 2010, 10:05:40 AM
Many modern printers are bidirectional which does not adapt well to print server usage. Some work well if this function is disabled.
Title: Re: Print Server works inconsistently
Post by: gunrunnerjohn on May 30, 2010, 10:50:13 AM
First thing I do, but that doesn't solve the issues I've seen. :)
Title: Re: Print Server works inconsistently
Post by: jamieburchell on May 30, 2010, 01:09:26 PM
Not really the point but, you can pick up wireless deskjet printers for next to nothing these days... at least they are designed to work this way. :)
Title: Re: Print Server works inconsistently
Post by: gunrunnerjohn on May 30, 2010, 01:22:11 PM
That's what I have for a color printer/scanner on my system, the HP C7280, works great for all the machines and allows me to scan and FAX as well from the network. :)

The two laser printers work through two of the NAS boxes to allow us all access.
Title: Re: Print Server works inconsistently
Post by: jamieburchell on May 30, 2010, 01:28:04 PM
I've also got a HP colour deskjet/scanner/copier - may even be the same model. Happy with mine except the 20,000 HP software apps that are eager to install. HP Update Updater, HP Real-time Ink Monitor, HP Real-time Ink Monitor Update Wizard, HP Ink Monitor Monitor, HP Paper Buying Guide 2010 Edition Lite..... OK, it's not that bad. I made the last one up. :)
Title: Re: Print Server works inconsistently
Post by: fordem on May 30, 2010, 02:01:52 PM
HP usually offers two drivers - the full package to which you refer, containing both driver and applications, and a second "driver only" package (which typically has to be downloaded from their website)
Title: Re: Print Server works inconsistently
Post by: jamieburchell on May 30, 2010, 03:52:16 PM
Indeed it does and I usually opt for the driver only package. Except I wanted to use the scanner software and found the executable to do it, but it wouldn't launch properly without installing the full blown software. I think last time I did it I was given the option of which software I wanted to install so that's always nice. As it happens last time round I just installed everything :)