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JDeathmetal

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Utorrent and other torrent configuration
« on: January 27, 2013, 03:16:27 PM »

Dear,

I searched for a DHP-1565 powerline thread but could not find one so I decided to use this part of the forum.

I was wondering how to correctly configure torrent programs on my D-Link apparently the D-link crashes very quickly if i allow multiple connections in utorrent.

My question:
I have maximum connections set to 50 since 75 would already crash my system, now i know this is kinda pathetic... since my old belkin router which was pretty unstable was able to allow 200 or more connections, so here :

Are there hardware configurations i can use to allow me more connections and a more stable Router?

I tried a couple of suggested things, disabled UPnP
Multicast streams are both on Wan port speed is 1000

My isp: UPC_Nl Amsterdam speed 120 Mbit down 12 mbit up.

I dont actually use wireless all the computers are wired but mobile devices do use the wireless so i dont want to turn it off.

What are my recommended settings to ensure maximum stability and speed for this Powerline router for which i dont actually use powerline btw.

Tips and tricks would be greatly appreciated and if this is the wrong part of the forum I sincerely apologize.

Regards,
Jasper
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Re: Utorrent and other torrent configuration
« Reply #1 on: January 27, 2013, 03:48:04 PM »

First thing  that comes to mind is to shut down any QoS on the router. Do you have the device that has torrent client on it wired through ethernet or powerline?
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Re: Utorrent and other torrent configuration
« Reply #2 on: January 28, 2013, 03:19:55 AM »

First thing  that comes to mind is to shut down any QoS on the router. Do you have the device that has torrent client on it wired through ethernet or powerline?

Where can i shutdown QoS ? Also I have all devices connected to ethernet, I dont actually use the powerline function and the wireless function only for mobile devices (like my iphone etc)
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Re: Utorrent and other torrent configuration
« Reply #3 on: January 28, 2013, 06:53:01 AM »

Advanced/QoS.
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Re: Utorrent and other torrent configuration
« Reply #4 on: January 29, 2013, 10:58:42 AM »

I checked QoS but all of it is turned off by default, enable traffic shaping is turned off so the rest is grey.

So this should not be the problem?
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Re: Utorrent and other torrent configuration
« Reply #5 on: January 29, 2013, 11:01:34 AM »

Possible that you might want to turn it on.

Overall I think your Torrents are the issue here, not the router. I would adjust your torrents for 1 or 2 or just a few and see how the router handless that. If your using maximum torrents and seeds, your probably going to crash any router.
« Last Edit: January 29, 2013, 11:03:13 AM by FurryNutz »
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Re: Utorrent and other torrent configuration
« Reply #6 on: January 29, 2013, 12:40:46 PM »

Possible that you might want to turn it on.

Overall I think your Torrents are the issue here, not the router. I would adjust your torrents for 1 or 2 or just a few and see how the router handless that. If your using maximum torrents and seeds, your probably going to crash any router.

I tried that actually, but it should not be my torrents since the old router could handle them fine and that was a belkin who should be alot worse... I just set the max to 25 connections and it still keeps crashing... its really frustrating to see a router choke on low connection numbers like that (seeds + leechers cant be more then 25). That should not be the case right? That would be to pathetic for a router imo?

Also the torrents are from a closed tracker, and I've tried multiple (open trackers aswell)
« Last Edit: January 29, 2013, 12:43:16 PM by JDeathmetal »
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Re: Utorrent and other torrent configuration
« Reply #7 on: January 29, 2013, 12:44:22 PM »

So it still crashes with say 3 connections? How about the bandwidth adjustments with in the Torrent program? Are they set to Unlimited? Try setting a lower level?
Torrent FAQ

I presume this router works well if your not Torrenting?

What Hardware version is your router? Look at sticker under router.
Link>What Firmware version is currently loaded? Found on routers web page under status.

If your not using any of the Power Line options on the router, then you may have the wrong router for what your trying to do. Most Dlink routers do work well however using Torrents and maxing out connections and bandwidth on these routers is probably not support nor wise. There been others complaining about routers crashing while Torrenting. This is a symptom of the programs and users wanting to download anything and everything and giving some limitations of routers, this is being problematic and causing routers to fail while Torrenting. Users need to be aware that they should moderate and adjust there Torrent settings so that the router can download the requested data. If they don't then most of the problems will be pointed at the Torrents as the cause of router failures. In most cases, this is not supported or by design of DLink. I believe at one point they did have one router that supported and was designed for Torrenting however, that has been Phased Out. This router may not be a good solution for Torrenting. Also since Torrenting here in the U.S. is illegal, it maybe one reason why DLink has not continued to officially support Torrenting in there HW any more.  I recommend that you phone contact DLink support and ask them which model they officially support and is designed to handle Torrents and ones that really don't work well. There may be some. I have seen other Mfr routers that taught that they are Torrent supporting.

Good Luck



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Re: Utorrent and other torrent configuration
« Reply #8 on: January 29, 2013, 12:52:00 PM »

I have to try 3 connections but even if it works isnt that just sad? I mean i do want normal speeds I have 120mbit thats why i bought this router to be fair, What kind of bandwidth adjustments ? How can i chance those, I did change connections/UPnP also an upload limit but not a download limit those are the options i have with Bandwith in utorrent there was one advanced option i changed that people said would help if you had bandwith problems

DHP_1565
Hardware Version: A1   Firmware Version: 1.00  

Firmware is the newest apparently

I see you changed some of the above post, I do realize you need to change some of the configurations but somehow it seems that this router is severly limited in this case, but not only torrents use peer to peer though, also installers from games like blizzard etc use peer to peer. Its kind of strange that there is no support for this feature. I do appreciate your help though, its just a pitty there is nothing i can do apparently :|
« Last Edit: January 29, 2013, 01:02:56 PM by JDeathmetal »
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Re: Utorrent and other torrent configuration
« Reply #9 on: January 29, 2013, 01:04:23 PM »

Ya there should be some UP and Down bandwidth settings in the torrent program. Also wonder if the program is really limiting anything you set up as well. I wouldn't be surprised if your making settings and the program is not actually applying the settings. Just a though. You might try a different torrent program to be sure. While torrenting, are you the only one online at the time or are there other devices online surfing the net or streaming?
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Re: Utorrent and other torrent configuration
« Reply #10 on: January 29, 2013, 01:32:54 PM »

It does actually change the values, i checked it to be certain i expected the same thing at first. But it doesnt seem to really help, now even at 25 max it goes down, I have roommates but Since we all have this problem, we tried not downloading (then things work decently) and I tried it when they wernt here so its not a problem of having more torrent programs at the same time, cause the PC we use is a pc in our living room (download pc). I limited upload to 50 KB but download is unlimited

it should be no problem since i have 12mbit upload and 120mbit down.

I could try another program, but also grabit who uses newsgroups doesnt work it will also crash the router :(

Tried even less connections still crashes, Isnt this just a broken router? Cant believe a product would be that bad.
« Last Edit: January 29, 2013, 01:47:59 PM by JDeathmetal »
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Re: Utorrent and other torrent configuration
« Reply #11 on: January 29, 2013, 03:29:18 PM »

Well the question is what speed are you actually all downloading? Each seed is a download point, but your not actually downloading the same part of the file, but different parts at the same time. The more seeds, the more parts of the file your downloading at once. Each seed can have its own download speed. but the total download rate is the total bandwidth being use.

So first thing we want to do is rule out some stuff, so connect a computer direct to ISP end point and then crank your Torrent program to full speed. While that is running, open a browser window and do some light browser. Like some google searches. Your not looking so much for lack of speed on the browser, but to make sure you can get on at all. If you get some kind of DNS error, or HTML error, or your ISP devices crashes, stop right there. If not, continue.

Now as for what can be done to improve the router. First shut down "everything" related to QoS. I think you already said you did, just double checking. The reason this is important is your basically flooding your router with tiny fast traffic, so anything that might create a bottle neck might crash it. 2nd, under Advanced>Firewall, make sure both TCP and UDP is set to Endpoint Independent. This will help the router because it won't have to track the traffic going in and out.  Leave UPnP on. Then turn off all other computers on the network but one, have that bee hardwired to router, and repeat the test, but at a more reasonable pace. Maybe try for 50Mb down? Then open up a browser and try it out.

PS. Please note the different between MB and Mb. 1MB=8Mb (roughly) So when you report back what your total download speed it from the client, make note of that difference.
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Re: Utorrent and other torrent configuration
« Reply #12 on: January 30, 2013, 11:19:31 AM »

I download 8-9 mb/s but with only 15 connections I cant get that speed. With my old router the speed was around 12mb/s not  mbit btw megabyte my line is 120mbit.

But I decided to request RMA for this unit, and just start using my old router again, done that today and no more problems! So Im not sure, I tired setting TCP and UDP to endpoint independent that did not help, nothing really helped so it seems that either model isnt suited or the copy i got was faulty.
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Re: Utorrent and other torrent configuration
« Reply #13 on: February 12, 2013, 09:52:39 AM »

Any status on this?
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Re: Utorrent and other torrent configuration
« Reply #14 on: March 24, 2013, 03:59:00 PM »

I also have an dhp-1565 and have no issues with usng Vuze .. +50 connections and DL speeds of about 2,5 MB/sec ... Using wifi.

But is I dare to conect an external USB HD to the router then it rashes regularly (even without P2P) ... SharePort is not the most stable SW.
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