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Title: New DIR-857 v1.02 FW
Post by: FurryNutz on July 25, 2012, 08:40:09 AM
Revision Info:
Fixed: Mac filter issue.
Fixed: remote management issue.
Fixed: router lockup issue.
Fixed: setup wizard issue.

Info Here:
DIR-857 v1.02 FW (http://forums.dlink.com/index.php?topic=50127.0)

Let us know results if you choose to load it.  ;)

I recommend applying this FW updated over the routers current configuration.
DO NOT FACTORY RESET THE ROUTER BEFORE APPLYING THE UPDATE!!! If you do, your saved configuration file may fail to load or be accepted by the router after the FW as been applied. DLink has been notified of this problem.
Title: Re: New DIR-857 v1.02 FW
Post by: JavaLawyer on July 25, 2012, 11:21:01 AM
I'd like to see release notes before jumping into this. . .  :-\
Title: Re: New DIR-857 v1.02 FW
Post by: FurryNutz on July 25, 2012, 11:26:05 AM
Then you'll need to wait until they are published sir.  ;D
Title: Re: New DIR-857 v1.02 FW
Post by: JavaLawyer on July 25, 2012, 11:42:30 AM
. . . or wait for the early adopters to discover what's changed through trial and error.  ???
Title: Re: New DIR-857 v1.02 FW
Post by: FurryNutz on July 25, 2012, 11:50:14 AM
We have one poor guinea pig right now.  ;D
Title: Re: New DIR-857 v1.02 FW
Post by: Lexist2112 on July 25, 2012, 08:53:43 PM
Please let us know.  Just checked the US site and it still has FW1.01.Hopefully Dlink will post a DETAILED description of changes in  FW 1.02.

Currently on FW 1.01 and has been running flawless and stable on  all of my static wired and wireless IP-Clients. I have (2) Linksys routers and a Dlink 8 port switch attached to the back of the DIR-857.

The one Linksys router as an AP and the other has been bridged to 3 other linksys routers. I have 4 DLink wireless cams connected via the linksys. All other wireless clients have direct access to the DIR 857 ie. iPhone 4, Ipad3, 5GHZ Lappie, XBOX 360 (2.4), (2) Sony Blu-Ray units. All of this running in a 2,300 SqFt. home!!!

Thus far the 857 wireless has been rock solid, much better than my E4200, which I still have, may have to DD-WRT it soon. From what I've read Broadcom will give the official greenlight to the new "AC standard" in early 2013. May have to wait another hardware revision to see who will have the better router...hopefully DLink  ;)
Title: Re: New DIR-857 v1.02 FW
Post by: FurryNutz on July 25, 2012, 10:38:17 PM
I will.
I loaded mine this evening. Haven't had a chance to fully check it out. I did a dirty upgrade over what was already installed with a current config. Wanted to see how it worked out. I'll put it online in the next few days and check it out. Haven't seen any premature log out issues yet using Mac OSX. Will test Windows and IE9.

My printer still doesn't seem to work with it and SP.  >:(
Title: Re: New DIR-857 v1.02 FW
Post by: eladts on July 26, 2012, 07:38:55 AM
If anyone has or hasn't got v1.02 to work with Hurricane Electric 6in4 tunnel, please post here. For me, v1.01 didn't work with the tunnel so I had to downgrade to the old v1.00b9 posted on the FTP site.
Title: Re: New DIR-857 v1.02 FW
Post by: FurryNutz on July 26, 2012, 07:40:27 AM
Please start a new thread post and I'll have some people come take a look and see if maybe there is a configuration problem.

If anyone has or hasn't got v1.02 to work with Hurricane Electric 6in4 tunnel, please post here. For me, v1.01 didn't work with the tunnel so I had to downgrade to the old v1.00b9 posted on the FTP site.
Title: Re: New DIR-857 v1.02 FW
Post by: Lexist2112 on July 26, 2012, 10:04:46 PM
So any news on 1.02??? Is it running smooth any bugs???? The F/W1.02 was officially posted today at 6:46 PM.
Title: Re: New DIR-857 v1.02 FW
Post by: FurryNutz on July 26, 2012, 11:29:57 PM
Updated.

 ;)
Title: Re: New DIR-857 v1.02 FW
Post by: Lexist2112 on July 29, 2012, 11:20:45 AM
So how is FW 1.02????
Title: Re: New DIR-857 v1.02 FW
Post by: JavaLawyer on July 30, 2012, 05:34:19 AM
How about it FurryNutz? What's the verdict on FW 1.02?  ;)
I will be updating later today. . .  ;D
Title: Re: New DIR-857 v1.02 FW
Post by: FurryNutz on July 30, 2012, 05:56:00 AM
Let see what you have to say sir. Currently testing a different router out so my 857 is offline.  ::)
Title: Re: New DIR-857 v1.02 FW
Post by: kargo27 on August 02, 2012, 07:52:16 PM
I was getting extremely slow download speeds (1 MB) and internet (but not wifi) disconnects this past week on wifi devices...and I just updated to 1.02 tonight. 

I'll be out of town this weekend but will monitor it next week and see if the issues are resolved.  I have a feeling they have been.   :)
Title: Re: New DIR-857 v1.02 FW
Post by: JavaLawyer on August 03, 2012, 05:40:04 AM
I finally got around to upgrading to firmware version 1.02 everything is stable so far. My only concern was the inability to upload a previously saved config.bin file with my router settings. This issue predated v1.02, so it's not a new error. Other than that hiccup, everything is working fine.

DIR-857 Factory Reset and loading saved Configuration files (http://forums.dlink.com/index.php?topic=50239.0)
Title: Re: New DIR-857 v1.02 FW
Post by: Lexist2112 on August 03, 2012, 07:37:14 AM
Thanks!!!!
Title: Re: New DIR-857 v1.02 FW
Post by: FurryNutz on August 03, 2012, 07:46:52 AM
Played for a few hours on MW3 last night, had a good time. Xbox is wireless connected 5Ghz to 857 same room.

Java, I'm logged in at work using HTTP(S) using IE. Care to verify yours? Seems to be working.
Title: Re: New DIR-857 v1.02 FW
Post by: JavaLawyer on August 03, 2012, 08:04:59 AM
Java, I'm logged in at work using HTTP(S) using IE. Care to verify yours? Seems to be working.

HTTPS works with FF.  That's one bug fix. . .
(Where's the change log!)
Title: Re: New DIR-857 v1.02 FW
Post by: FurryNutz on August 03, 2012, 08:07:03 AM
 Good to hear.
( ::) )
Title: Re: New DIR-857 v1.02 FW
Post by: kargo27 on August 05, 2012, 03:49:10 PM
Well, I was still getting odd disconnects with the new firmware update so I decided to clear my settings and start over using the wizard.  So far so good, but I'll keep monitoring.
Title: Re: New DIR-857 v1.02 FW
Post by: FurryNutz on August 06, 2012, 07:25:45 AM
Thanks for the feedback Kargo, Hope it works well for you. Glad to see ya hanging around. Come visit us. WE MISS YOU.  ::)
Title: Re: New DIR-857 v1.02 FW
Post by: MNoisy on August 09, 2012, 01:15:58 PM
Fixed the page not found and lookup issues many were having...so far so good
Title: Re: New DIR-857 v1.02 FW
Post by: FurryNutz on August 09, 2012, 01:43:22 PM
Good to hear. Keep us posted. Enjoy.
Title: Re: New DIR-857 v1.02 FW
Post by: JavaLawyer on August 10, 2012, 05:53:12 AM
Has anyone tested whether the bookmarking issue was resolved in the Wizard? The web interface bookmark was saved as a sidebar page in FF rather than the main browser window.
Title: Re: New DIR-857 v1.02 FW
Post by: FurryNutz on August 10, 2012, 06:53:40 AM
I haven't...  ::)
Title: Re: New DIR-857 v1.02 FW
Post by: magius on August 12, 2012, 04:00:37 PM
Wanted to chime in. I flashed this firmware and now the router is locking up now and again. Usually the wireless is the first one to go. We get disconnects, then nothing. Today the router slowed down with the same symptoms and then I could not even connect to the web gui.

I will try a factory reset, flash, and reconfigure. Maybe that will help. In the meantime... there is something going on with this one. I just lost wireless again, right at this moment.
Title: Re: New DIR-857 v1.02 FW
Post by: FurryNutz on August 12, 2012, 05:16:58 PM
Please start a new thread and we help you there.
Title: Re: New DIR-857 v1.02 FW
Post by: jleonard711 on August 14, 2012, 04:01:40 AM
I was having the same issues as a lot of other people - random websites wouldn't load, the wireless would disconnect, the router would time out and need to be manually reset, slow DL/UL speeds, etc, etc, etc. It has been one of the most frustrating routers that I have ever had in my entire life. I was about to return it until I saw that this firmware came out and I figured I'd give it one more shot. So I backed up my settings, installed the new firmware, loaded my saved settings....and...no help. I still had all the same problems.

So then tonight as I was getting ready to box it up and ship it back, I did a factory reset to erase all of my personal info in the router (paranoid, I know). Then it occured to me - I didn't do a factory reset after I installed the new firmware, I just loaded my old settings. So I figured I'd try one more time after doing a factory reset (post-firmware update), and this time instead of loading my old settings I went through the whole setup process again ....and.... FINALLY this thing works like it should! It's blazing fast, no problems with dropped connections or page timeouts, no random "oops!" pages, nada. It's been about 4 hours now which is the longest I have had this thing running properly since I got it 3 weeks ago.

So if you are having issues:
1. Do a factory reset
2. Install the new firmware
3. Do another factory reset
4. Walk through the entire setup from scratch again rather than loading your old settings.

This worked for me, hopefully it will for you too!
Title: Re: New DIR-857 v1.02 FW
Post by: JavaLawyer on August 14, 2012, 05:07:24 AM
I was having the same issues as a lot of other people - random websites wouldn't load, the wireless would disconnect, the router would time out and need to be manually reset, slow DL/UL speeds, etc, etc, etc. It has been one of the most frustrating routers that I have ever had in my entire life. I was about to return it until I saw that this firmware came out and I figured I'd give it one more shot. So I backed up my settings, installed the new firmware, loaded my saved settings....and...no help. I still had all the same problems.

So then tonight as I was getting ready to box it up and ship it back, I did a factory reset to erase all of my personal info in the router (paranoid, I know). Then it occured to me - I didn't do a factory reset after I installed the new firmware, I just loaded my old settings. So I figured I'd try one more time after doing a factory reset (post-firmware update), and this time instead of loading my old settings I went through the whole setup process again ....and.... FINALLY this thing works like it should! It's blazing fast, no problems with dropped connections or page timeouts, no random "oops!" pages, nada. It's been about 4 hours now which is the longest I have had this thing running properly since I got it 3 weeks ago.

So if you are having issues:
1. Do a factory reset
2. Install the new firmware
3. Do another factory reset
4. Walk through the entire setup from scratch again rather than loading your old settings.

This worked for me, hopefully it will for you too!

Although painstakingly time consuming, performing a clean install is always the recommended course of action for any firmware upgrade. From what you describe, it sounds like some of your original settings (or perhaps corrupt settings) may have caused your DIR-857 stability issues. I would attribute your new found router stability to the clean install rather than the firmware upgrade. The out-of-the-box factory installed firmware is also extraordinarily stable and should not have resulted in the issues you described.

Please post back and let us know how the router performs going forward.  ;)
Title: Re: New DIR-857 v1.02 FW
Post by: jleonard711 on August 14, 2012, 06:15:28 AM
I wouldn't call the original firmware "stable" by any means - reread the first line of my post. ::) I was having those issues right out of the box from day one with nothing more than than the basic setup having been done on it. I then spent weeks playing around with all of the different settings to see if I could get it to work properly, but to no avail. And I did several factory resets during that time (while on the original firmware), and I kept having the same problems over and over.

At one point I thought I had everything sorted out, but then I realized that my internet speed was running painfully slow (6-8Mb/s DL & <1Mb/s UL, compared to my normal 30-40 DL & 12-15 UL). And another time I could literally have 3 different browsers open on the same machine - IE, FF and Chrome - and one would pull up Google but not MSN, the other would pull up Yahoo & MSN but not Google, the other would only pull up random websites that I would type in but no websites that I had ever visited before. Or I'd have two laptops connected via WiFi and one would be working just fine but the other would take 5 minutes to load any web page. Just a bunch of weird stuff like that. And I know it was the router because as soon as I'd hook my old one back up everything worked fine. It was the biggest mess I've ever had to deal with, and I am a very tech-savvy individual - I have 6 self-built PC's including a WHS & a few HTPC's, NAS, laptops, tablets, networked gaming systems, etc. So it's not like I don't know what I'm doing.

Anyhow, it's working fine now and that's all that matters. Just wish I could get the countless hours of my life back that I spent working on this damn thing.  >:(
Title: Re: New DIR-857 v1.02 FW
Post by: JavaLawyer on August 14, 2012, 06:19:14 AM
As you said, the important thing is that the router is working properly. I am hoping that D-Link eventually releases a change log so we can see exactly what's been fixed rather than these posts describing user experience.

Based on your earlier post, I am curious if the actual factory installed firmware was somehow partially corrupt. I wonder how the router would behave if the factory installed firmware were re-uploaded.  :-\

Let's hope everything remains stable going forward.  ;)
Title: Re: New DIR-857 v1.02 FW
Post by: FurryNutz on August 14, 2012, 07:19:59 AM
Come back and visit the forums good info and help here. Glad you got it working.

Enjoy.
Title: Re: New DIR-857 v1.02 FW
Post by: jleonard711 on August 14, 2012, 11:25:41 AM
I did notice one specific thing with the new firmware which was different than the original one. When I went through the initial setup on the original firmware, it would automatically populate the MAC address of the PC that I was using to set it up and it would put that into the router settings. This address matched the MAC address of the "known PC" that showed in my modem status, so I assumed that was correct. However, after upgrading to the new firmware and doing a factory reset and going through the set up again, the MAC address that it now shows in the field where it used to show the MAC of my PC now shows a completely random address that doesn't match any device on my network. And the MAC address of the "known PC" in my cable modem has also now changed to that new random address as well. Weird.
Title: Re: New DIR-857 v1.02 FW
Post by: FurryNutz on August 14, 2012, 11:37:30 AM
After you factory reset the router and used the wizard to set it up, did you have all other devices OFF while doing this accept for the one PC and modem?
Title: Re: New DIR-857 v1.02 FW
Post by: jleonard711 on August 14, 2012, 11:54:47 AM
Yes, I hardwired one PC directly into the router and didn't go through a switch or anything when I did the setup after doing the factory reset, so that was the one and only device on the entire network at the time of setup. I've never had to do that with any other router in my life, I just thought I'd try that since nothing else had worked. And I don't know if that's what made the difference, or if it's just the fact that I did the factory reset after installing the new firmware, who knows. But each of the other times that I went through the setup process or reset the router I always had the 24-port switch with my entire home network connected to the router, but like I said that has never posed a problem in setting up any other router that I have ever used.
Title: Re: New DIR-857 v1.02 FW
Post by: FurryNutz on August 14, 2012, 12:01:40 PM
Was any 3rd party security programs active? Like Firewall or Anti-virus?
What browser do you use to mange the routers web page? If IE 8 or 9, set compatibility mode?.

Just curious about if anything else might be effecting data traffic and how the router is responding to the wizard and FW. I also have a 24pt switch.
Title: Re: New DIR-857 v1.02 FW
Post by: slumbuddy on August 14, 2012, 12:31:15 PM
1.02 FW fixes a problem I had with 1.00, but still has a few deficiencies that I'd like to see remedied.  First, some background on how I am using it.  I am not using the 857 as a router, I've configured it to be a wireless access point (DHCP off, static IP, WAN port is unused).  I've got FibeTV, so there is lots and lots of IPTV traffic coursing through my home network.  I've had problems with other WAPs due to this traffic, which is why I decided to upgrade to the 857 in the hopes that some of these stability problems could be resolved.

I unboxed the 857 with v1.00, reconfigured it to be a WAP, and everything worked great except when there was IPTV traffic (watching TV or recording a problem).  Connections would become unstable and extremely slow (essentially unusable), much slower than it ought to be given the bandwidth used by the TV channel.  My network monitor reports that all the TV (RTP) packets are being transmitted through the air (this is bad).  Messing around with QoS and WISH did not yield any positive results.

After upgrading to v1.02 FW, things got much better.  Connections are stable and fast when the TV is on, and IPTV traffic is no longer transmitted through the air (yay, I don't have to return the 857).  However, there was one incident when I rebooted the 857 with the TV on, and it got back into an unusable, unstable and slow mode similar to v1.00, and IPTV traffic was going through the air again.  No amount of reboots would fix the problem.  I finally got it to work again when I rebooted while disconnected from my home network, and reconnect after fully booted.  I have not been able to reproduce this problem since the first incident.

A couple of other things that are not working when configured as a WAP.
- The MAC filter does not work at all.  I'd like to be able to add that extra level of security.
- The inbound filter does not work (because I am not using the WAN port).  It would be nice to filter out traffic from certain devices on my home network (like the cable boxes) to maximize my wifi bandwidth.  I guess I'm really asking for a local traffic filter.

Overall, after a day of use I am very pleased with the 857, so far it seems to be the most stable WAP I've tried (this is the 3rd one I've tried).
Title: Re: New DIR-857 v1.02 FW
Post by: FurryNutz on August 14, 2012, 12:34:24 PM
What wireless modes are you using? Under Setup/Wireless/Manual.
Try single mode G or mixed G and N on 2.4Ghz and single mode N on 5Ghz?
Channel Width set for Auto 20/40Mhz or try 20Mhz only.
Try setting a manual channel to a open or unused channel. 1, 6 or 11. 11 for single mode N if the channel is clear.
What security mode are you using? Preferred security is WPA-Personal. WPA2/AES Only. Some WiFi adapters don't support AES, so you might want to try TPIK only or Auto.
Any cordless house phones?
Any other WiFi routers in the area? Link> Use InSSIDer (http://www.metageek.net/) to find out. How many?
Turn off WISH, and WPS under Advanced.
Try turning off Short GI, WLAN Partition,and Extra Wireless Protection if you have it. Under Advanced/Advanced Wireless.

Please review this:
Turning a router into an AP. (http://forums.dlink.com/index.php?topic=40856.0)
Most of the features can not be used while in AP mode.

1.02 FW fixes a problem I had with 1.00, but still has a few deficiencies that I'd like to see remedied.  First, some background on how I am using it.  I am not using the 857 as a router, I've configured it to be a wireless access point (DHCP off, static IP, WAN port is unused).  I've got FibeTV, so there is lots and lots of IPTV traffic coursing through my home network.  I've had problems with other WAPs due to this traffic, which is why I decided to upgrade to the 857 in the hopes that some of these stability problems could be resolved.

I unboxed the 857 with v1.00, reconfigured it to be a WAP, and everything worked great except when there was IPTV traffic (watching TV or recording a problem).  Connections would become unstable and extremely slow (essentially unusable), much slower than it ought to be given the bandwidth used by the TV channel.  My network monitor reports that all the TV (RTP) packets are being transmitted through the air (this is bad).  Messing around with QoS and WISH did not yield any positive results.

After upgrading to v1.02 FW, things got much better.  Connections are stable and fast when the TV is on, and IPTV traffic is no longer transmitted through the air (yay, I don't have to return the 857).  However, there was one incident when I rebooted the 857 with the TV on, and it got back into an unusable, unstable and slow mode similar to v1.00, and IPTV traffic was going through the air again.  No amount of reboots would fix the problem.  I finally got it to work again when I rebooted while disconnected from my home network, and reconnect after fully booted.  I have not been able to reproduce this problem since the first incident.

A couple of other things that are not working when configured as a WAP.
- The MAC filter does not work at all.  I'd like to be able to add that extra level of security.
- The inbound filter does not work (because I am not using the WAN port).  It would be nice to filter out traffic from certain devices on my home network (like the cable boxes) to maximize my wifi bandwidth.  I guess I'm really asking for a local traffic filter.

Overall, after a day of use I am very pleased with the 857, so far it seems to be the most stable WAP I've tried (this is the 3rd one I've tried).
Title: Re: New DIR-857 v1.02 FW
Post by: jleonard711 on August 14, 2012, 12:39:33 PM
Was any 3rd party security programs active? Like Firewall or Anti-virus?
What browser do you use to mange the routers web page? If IE 8 or 9, set compatibility mode?.

Just curious about if anything else might be effecting data traffic and how the router is responding to the wizard and FW. I also have a 24pt switch.

I had literally tried everything on the old firmware, and also on the new one (before doing the factory reset). I disabled firewalls, antivirus programs, turned off protected browsing features, played around with internet security levels, tried every browser known to man (IE8, IE9, FF, Chrome, Opera), tried Unbuntu systems, and always had the same problems of slow speeds, web pages not loading, etc.

Here's a sample of why I would experience on a daily basis: I'd be on my laptop surfing the web just fine, then all of a sudden things would start to slow down, then certain web pages would just stop loading all together but others would still load fine. So I'd open a different browser (not just a new window, but an entirely different browser) and sometimes the pages that wouldn't open in the original browser would work in the new one, but other times they didn't. So then I'd save everything I was working on, close all my browsers & restart my laptop, unplug the modem and router, plug the modem back in and let it start up, then plug the router back in. And sometimes that would fix the problem, but sometimes it wouldn't, and even if it did then after using it for a while the same problems would start to happen all over again. And if it didn't fix the problem then I'd just do a factory reset and start all over again.

I even had the cable company reprovision my modem several times and make sure I had the latest firmware installed. And I had those same type of issues with every single PC on my network, whether LAN or WAN, no matter the operating system or type of virus protection installed. So literally everything pointed to the router, but I was not able to isolate the cause of the problems.
Title: Re: New DIR-857 v1.02 FW
Post by: FurryNutz on August 14, 2012, 12:44:17 PM
What region are you located?
Are you wired or wireless connected to the router?

What ISP Service do you have? Cable or DSL?
What ISP Modem do you have? Stand Alone or built in router?
What ISP Modem make and model do you have?

Not doubting you however we haven't seen issues like this when we first got our v1.00 routers. Wondering if there was a bad batch of FW somewhere.  ???


I had literally tried everything on the old firmware, and also on the new one (before doing the factory reset). I disabled firewalls, antivirus programs, turned off protected browsing features, played around with internet security levels, tried every browser known to man (IE8, IE9, FF, Chrome, Opera), tried Unbuntu systems, and always had the same problems of slow speeds, web pages not loading, etc.

Here's a sample of why I would experience on a daily basis: I'd be on my laptop surfing the web just fine, then all of a sudden things would start to slow down, then certain web pages would just stop loading all together but others would still load fine. So I'd open a different browser (not just a new window, but an entirely different browser) and sometimes the pages that wouldn't open in the original browser would work in the new one, but other times they didn't. So then I'd save everything I was working on, close all my browsers & restart my laptop, unplug the modem and router, plug the modem back in and let it start up, then plug the router back in. And sometimes that would fix the problem, but sometimes it wouldn't, and even if it did then after using it for a while the same problems would start to happen all over again. And if it didn't fix the problem then I'd just do a factory reset and start all over again.

I even had the cable company reprovision my modem several times and make sure I had the latest firmware installed. And I had those same type of issues with every single PC on my network, whether LAN or WAN, no matter the operating system or type of virus protection installed. So literally everything pointed to the router, but I was not able to isolate the cause of the problems.
Title: Re: New DIR-857 v1.02 FW
Post by: jleonard711 on August 14, 2012, 01:35:53 PM
What region are you located? Arizona
Are you wired or wireless connected to the router? Both. And I had issues with both; the example I gave above happened with my wired connections as well.
What ISP Service do you have? Cable or DSL? Cox Cable
What ISP Modem do you have? Stand Alone or built in router? Standalone
What ISP Modem make and model do you have? Motorola SB6120
Title: Re: New DIR-857 v1.02 FW
Post by: FurryNutz on August 14, 2012, 01:45:04 PM
Ok, the 6120 is a great modem. Should work well. I've got the 6180. Had the 20 but sold it. Make sure that there isn't any TV line splitters between the ISP cable box out side and the Modem. If you need one, use a good quality one. The more you have on the line the lower the signal to the modem will be.

Only other thing I would do is install CAT 6 cabling between the modem and router and set a manual link speed of 1000Mb.

Keep us posted on how it works for you now that you seem to have it running better.

I would suggest using Reserve IP addresses on the router for ALL devices.  ;)
You could also try turning off DNS Relay and setting a Manual DNS IP addresses under Setup/Internet/Manual. I'm currently running in this configuration for a while.
Title: Re: New DIR-857 v1.02 FW
Post by: jleonard711 on August 14, 2012, 01:58:24 PM
My entire house is wired with Cat6, and all the cables I use between my devices and switches are also Cat6. The only reason I even upgraded my router is because my other one was 3 years old and it didn't have gigabit ports or simultaneous dual band. But other than that my internet connection has always been flawless, not one single problem with wired or wireless connectivity until this router.

Today is literally 2 days before my 30 day window was up to be able to return it to the vendor for refund/exchange, so I'm glad I got it working just in the nick of time!
Title: Re: New DIR-857 v1.02 FW
Post by: FurryNutz on August 14, 2012, 02:02:35 PM
Good to hear. Keep us posted. I should work well for you.
Title: Re: New DIR-857 v1.02 FW
Post by: magius on August 14, 2012, 08:07:51 PM
Quick update... after the reset, flash, reset it has been rock solid so far. :)
Title: Re: New DIR-857 v1.02 FW
Post by: FurryNutz on August 14, 2012, 08:21:20 PM
Good to hear
Title: Re: New DIR-857 v1.02 FW
Post by: skraeling on August 16, 2012, 02:18:22 PM
hoping to see if this fixes my random hanging issue.

Speeds are still good for me.

(http://www.speedtest.net/result/2123797967.png)
Title: Re: New DIR-857 v1.02 FW
Post by: FurryNutz on August 16, 2012, 02:19:29 PM
Hanging as is in?

Care to start a new post for this and will see if we can help?

hoping to see if this fixes my random hanging issue.

Speeds are still good for me.

(http://www.speedtest.net/result/2123797967.png)
Title: Re: New DIR-857 v1.02 FW
Post by: skraeling on August 16, 2012, 03:47:41 PM
If it does it again ill start a new thread.

Hanging as in unable to access any webpages, nor the admin page for the router.  I am hardwired into it on my desktop.

All computers show still connected to the router.

turning its power off and back on fixes problem 100% of the time.
Title: Re: New DIR-857 v1.02 FW
Post by: FurryNutz on August 16, 2012, 03:59:00 PM
What ISP Service do you have? Cable or DSL?
What ISP Modem do you have? Stand Alone or built in router?
What ISP Modem make and model do you have?

Setup DHCP reserved IP addresses for all devices ON the router. Setup/Networking
Ensure devices are set to auto obtain an IP address.
Title: Re: New DIR-857 v1.02 FW
Post by: skraeling on August 16, 2012, 04:42:45 PM
What ISP Service do you have? Cable or DSL?
What ISP Modem do you have? Stand Alone or built in router?
What ISP Modem make and model do you have?

Setup DHCP reserved IP addresses for all devices ON the router. Setup/Networking
Ensure devices are set to auto obtain an IP address.

cable, charter
surfboard 6120

already did dhcp reservs, auto obtain already on.

this happens with me HARD WIRED into it still.
Title: Re: New DIR-857 v1.02 FW
Post by: FurryNutz on August 16, 2012, 04:48:24 PM
Try setting the WAN port speed from auto to 1000mb.
This happen when directly connected to modem?
Turn off all anti virus and firewall programs on PC while testing. 3rd party firewalls are not generally needed when using routers as they are effective on blocking malicious inbound traffic.
Turn off all devices accept for one wired PC while testing.

What browser are you using?
Try Opera or FF? If IE 8 or 9, set compatibility mode and test again.
Title: Re: New DIR-857 v1.02 FW
Post by: skraeling on August 16, 2012, 06:12:05 PM
Yes this happens when directly connected (my desktop is hardwired into it).
I dont run software firewalls as they are ****.
If it was the antivirus it would never work at all, in addition it never notifies me of anything suspicious so its either not reporting or not detecting, not both.

I use chrome.

When the router bugs out no brower will open internet and or the admin page.  IE 64bit or 32bit, chrome is my default.


ill try the wan setting thing if it hangs again.
Title: Re: New DIR-857 v1.02 FW
Post by: FurryNutz on August 16, 2012, 07:06:52 PM
This happen when PC is directly connected to modem?
Title: Re: New DIR-857 v1.02 FW
Post by: skraeling on August 16, 2012, 07:34:28 PM
connected to modem it works just fine.

edit: nuked my bitdefender installation.  Might have been the culprit.
Title: Re: New DIR-857 v1.02 FW
Post by: FurryNutz on August 16, 2012, 07:51:29 PM
Keep us posted.

I think I had mentioned turning OFF any 3rd party security programs.  ::)
Title: Re: New DIR-857 v1.02 FW
Post by: kargo27 on August 17, 2012, 10:11:28 AM
Chiming in here.  Dirty FW upgrade didn't work for me, either.  WiFi drops happening, slow speeds as well.

I'm going to do the factory reset, flash and factory reset again and see if it improves.

I'm with Java in that the original firmware was rock solid for me.

Charter cable, Moto SB6141 modem, FWIW.
Title: Re: New DIR-857 v1.02 FW
Post by: FurryNutz on August 17, 2012, 10:12:32 AM
What version are you currently using Kargo?
And what browser are you using?
Title: Re: New DIR-857 v1.02 FW
Post by: kargo27 on August 17, 2012, 10:20:20 AM
What version are you currently using Kargo?
And what browser are you using?

1.02 and Chrome.....your favorite!   :D
Title: Re: New DIR-857 v1.02 FW
Post by: FurryNutz on August 17, 2012, 10:33:14 AM
Ok, I'm here to tell you and others, when doing FW updates on these routers...I HIGHLY recommend using IE or FF as your router management tool and don't use Chrome. Just the other day a guy bricked his 825 router while doing a FW update using Chrome. Were seeing other issues on the 865 forum for general router management while using Chrome. The guy refuses to try IE or FF. In most cases any browser should theoretically work on these routers and generally do. However, my experiences over the years in working with different browsers, I've come to the conclusion and knowing of what Mfrs test in there development of there products, using OS based and included browsers is a standard and should be used in FW updates. There are too many varioable and updates to Chrome that probably and do impact how Chrome works with devices web pages and doing FW updates.

Most testing and development is done using OS based installed browsers like IE for MS and Safari for Apple. These browsers are tested a lot. Chrome, FF and others probably are however not to the extent of what MS and Apple are and only tested as a courtesy and on a limited basis. Yes Chrome, FF and Opera are major browsers and favorites among the population, however that doesn't mean that Mfrs are testing them to the level we'd like.

So lets not take risks in FW updates and our devices. I highly recommend for doing any FW updates on these routers or any product as a matter of fact, Use IE first and foremost. FF and a 2ndary backup.

After that, using any browser for general router management should be good. Not trying to dissuade any one from using there preferred browser at all, just when it comes to FW updates, lets use something that has been tested well.
Title: Re: New DIR-857 v1.02 FW
Post by: kargo27 on August 17, 2012, 02:18:47 PM
That's good info and probably should be stressed in the stickies (if it isn't already).
Title: Re: New DIR-857 v1.02 FW
Post by: FurryNutz on August 17, 2012, 02:25:11 PM
It is here:
FW Update Process (http://forums.dlink.com/index.php?topic=42457.0)
Title: Re: New DIR-857 v1.02 FW
Post by: kargo27 on August 17, 2012, 02:27:37 PM
FWIW on my attempt today, I reset my settings to factory, once by clicking on the button in the GUI, let it clear and boot back up.  Then I reset it again using the red button on the back near the power button.

After that I let it boot up again, then flashed FW1.02 again, just to be sure since I flashed it dirty before.  After the flash and I verified that it was stable I reset to factory settings again (using just the reset button on the back near the power button).

After it booted up and was stable I configured it.  I'll monitor it and get back with you all as needed.
Title: Re: New DIR-857 v1.02 FW
Post by: FurryNutz on August 17, 2012, 02:28:31 PM
Good to hear. Glad it's working for ya.  ;D
Title: Re: New DIR-857 v1.02 FW
Post by: kargo27 on August 17, 2012, 02:30:22 PM
Good to hear. Glad it's working for ya.  ;D

I'm just glad you guys kept chatting about it.   ;D
Title: Re: New DIR-857 v1.02 FW
Post by: skraeling on August 18, 2012, 02:20:15 AM
updated on chrome (yeah im bad I know).

Everything is stable still post antivirus uninstall.

current uptime = 19hrs
Title: Re: New DIR-857 v1.02 FW
Post by: kargo27 on August 18, 2012, 07:28:07 AM
So far so good for me as well.  Normally, I'd see something bad happen by now.   :)
Title: Re: New DIR-857 v1.02 FW
Post by: FurryNutz on August 19, 2012, 10:34:53 AM
Until you got struck by lightning. Sorry Kargo.  :-[
Title: Re: New DIR-857 v1.02 FW
Post by: skraeling on August 21, 2012, 01:46:04 PM
router locked itself up again.  showed connected to network showed no internet connectivity problems (yellow warning triangle over the ethernet indicator).

couldnt access any web pages including the router admin interface.



back to square 1.
Title: Re: New DIR-857 v1.02 FW
Post by: FurryNutz on August 21, 2012, 01:50:24 PM
I'd like for you to do a factory reset, reload the same version of FW using IE this time, factory reset once more then test.
Did you still have BitDefender still active or inactive?

What ISP Service do you have? Cable or DSL?
What ISP Modem do you have? Stand Alone or built in router?
What ISP Modem make and model do you have?
Title: Re: New DIR-857 v1.02 FW
Post by: skraeling on August 21, 2012, 02:43:51 PM
no bitdefender even installed.  uninstalled it.  had MS security essentials installed the same day.

cable
surfboard 6120, stand alone

edit: I wonder if I had my DHCP lease time set too long?


have done all the steps and uninstalled the sec essentials.  we shall see how this goes.
Title: Re: New DIR-857 v1.02 FW
Post by: FurryNutz on August 21, 2012, 06:46:26 PM
When this router seems to lock up, can you still access the routers web page by chance? Using IE?
Have you viewed the 6120's modem logs when then happens? 857s logs?
Title: Re: New DIR-857 v1.02 FW
Post by: skraeling on August 21, 2012, 06:53:01 PM
havnt viewd the logs (didnt know that was possible for the modem).  didnt check the routers logs either.

no browser works that i have installed to access the admin page.
Title: Re: New DIR-857 v1.02 FW
Post by: FurryNutz on August 21, 2012, 07:16:22 PM
You can access the Modems logs at 192.168.100.1. I would review these logs along with the 857 to see if you notice anything during the time frames you see the router hang or seem to loose internet connection.

Ok, so we know that this PC fails to connect using any PCs to the routers web page. Are there other PCs and or devices that exhibit the same problem when this happens? Can't connect to the routers web page?

I would do this, turn off ALL devices accept for one PC and see if anything happens. I Might even try turning off WiFi just as a test. I know seems a bit much however I'm trying to help you see if something connected to the router maybe causing this hang or if the router itself is the problem. Need to try to narrow it down to either the router or a device maybe.

Another test if you can and have some time. Disconnect the 6120 from the router. Just run the router with one PC connected to it. View the routers web page and see if the router hangs by itself. Even though you won't have internet, at least you can veiw the web page at some interval and see what happens.
Title: Re: New DIR-857 v1.02 FW
Post by: skraeling on August 21, 2012, 07:26:07 PM
no device is able to access the internet if the router is in a "failed hung state".

ill see how its current stability is with the wipe/flash/wipe you had me try .
Title: Re: New DIR-857 v1.02 FW
Post by: skraeling on August 22, 2012, 09:51:21 AM
router hung again today.  fiance couldnt acess internet.  Im just going to return it for a new one.  We have had some storms so maybe it got zapped.
Title: Re: New DIR-857 v1.02 FW
Post by: FurryNutz on August 22, 2012, 09:53:25 AM
Let us know how new one works out for you.
Title: Re: New DIR-857 v1.02 FW
Post by: skraeling on August 22, 2012, 10:03:36 AM
for 170.00 a pop im hoping a bit longer than a month. :)  Such a shame too it was really fast when it worked.

My old DGL4300 started failing (after 5+ years) too which is why i had to go get a new one to begin with.  Tried the asus nt65u or whatever it was and it died within a week.  This one took a month.

how hard is it to make routers that will just last a few years anymore.
Title: Re: New DIR-857 v1.02 FW
Post by: FurryNutz on August 22, 2012, 10:06:51 AM
Makes me wonder if something in your area or on you power lines is effecting your equipment. Seems to be a trend you seeing...failing equipment. Well I've had mine for months now and has been good. Keep us posted on the new one. Might have someone help you set it up or review your router settings with ya.  ;)
Title: Re: New DIR-857 v1.02 FW
Post by: skraeling on August 22, 2012, 11:35:22 AM
Failing routers.  Clocks did get blanked a week or so ago.  So the power has done things lately.

If I could get my previous router (also a dlink) to run solidly for several years I highly doubt it is my inability to set it up.  There is no justifiable reason that all the computers on my network can't access the admin page when the router does its locking up for no apparent reason gag.

Title: Re: New DIR-857 v1.02 FW
Post by: FurryNutz on August 22, 2012, 11:58:50 AM
Not doubting your abilities here man.

Just seeing some sort of trend with your routers and possibly linked to your power situation.

Let us know now new 857 does. Possible something got hosed on one of those power events.

Title: Re: New DIR-857 v1.02 FW
Post by: skraeling on October 10, 2012, 01:53:32 PM
Router after intermittently failing and being forced to reboot it.  Finally just completely gave out.  No internet what so ever through it.  Hooked up my old DGL-4300... taadaa internet.  So after going through the hoops with tech support got the old one RMA'd.

New one hooked up and working.
Title: Re: New DIR-857 v1.02 FW
Post by: FurryNutz on October 10, 2012, 02:16:26 PM
Glad the new one is working for you. Keep us posted on how the new one works out for you.
Title: Re: New DIR-857 v1.02 FW
Post by: skraeling on October 10, 2012, 03:34:58 PM
flashed to 1.02 (With IE :)  ).  Stable as can be right now.  Will update much later with how its doing.
Title: Re: New DIR-857 v1.02 FW
Post by: FurryNutz on October 10, 2012, 06:32:38 PM
Enjoy...Keep us posted.  ;) Let us know if you have any heat issues...