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Author Topic: Router constantly resets with WoW and 2 computers.  (Read 33158 times)

FurryNutz

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Re: Router constantly resets with WoW and 2 computers. (RESOLVED)
« Reply #45 on: August 17, 2010, 11:11:26 PM »

Yaaaaa. Woo Hoo.  ;D
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Re: Router constantly resets with WoW and 2 computers.
« Reply #46 on: August 19, 2010, 08:16:49 PM »

Well Furry call that last one. I actually told you choose your ISP DNS. Since that bypasses the DNS query the router would otherwise have to make. Not sure why Furry's way worked, but it did, he must just be cool like that. :-) Anyway, glad things worked out.
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Mogorain

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Re: Router constantly resets with WoW and 2 computers.
« Reply #47 on: August 20, 2010, 10:08:37 PM »

It didn't work.  *sigh*

Now we find ourselves kicked like once a night, with the dreaded "Local Only"... it then says it cannot connect to the Primary DNS and sits like that for about 5+ minutes before it regains internet access.  Grrr
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Re: Router constantly resets with WoW and 2 computers.
« Reply #48 on: August 20, 2010, 10:37:54 PM »

wonder if you could have a bad unit. Any chance you have a friend with broadband that you can try this unit out on a different network?
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Re: Router constantly resets with WoW and 2 computers.
« Reply #49 on: August 21, 2010, 01:24:17 AM »

No sir, I do not have anyone I know with a network.  :(
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Re: Router constantly resets with WoW and 2 computers.
« Reply #50 on: August 21, 2010, 09:06:58 PM »

First I will discuss what DNS is. Sorry if I have gone over this before, but considering its the issue at hand, I think it stands repeating. Domain Name System(DNS) is a way for a internet device to know how to get to a certain part of the internet, like of like a internet phone book. Just like the phone book matches up names with phone numbers, your DNS server matches up website names, or domains, with their internet number, or internet protocal(IP).

Ok, well the good news is it happens once a night. And I have lots of trick up my sleave. Technically, you don't "need" dns. You can program your host files manually. The thing is there are several different methods to use DNS. We may have to try each way, and see which way works best for you.

Router:
1. Leave to default. All DNS querys are processed and sent to the DNS aquired when the router booted up.
2. A DNS can be manually entered into the router. Requests are still processed by the modem and thus delayed.
3. Advanced DNS can be enabled. This uses a static DNS beloning to the OpenDNS domain, a 3rd party DNS system. Simular over-all to 2, just Open-DNS may be better and/or quicker then your ISP's DNS.
4. A OpenDNS can be manually entered in. This is like 3, except you can choose which OpenDNS server to us, and might be able to choose one that is closer.
5.DNS Relay can be enabled. This allows the router to send requests directly to the DNS on file. This DNS can be any of the 1-4 options. This is good if your ISP and/DNS gives a lower priority to DNS related ICMP traffic.

PC:
1. Obtain DNS Server Automaticallly. Gets what ever DNS the router provides. (Can't be used if Static IP)
2. Set a static DNS. Sends traffic to DNS you set, so can conflict with DNS Relay on the router, if you also have a static DNS set on the router that is different then the static DNS set on the PC. In this way, a static DNS on the PC doesn't work real well with Advanced DNS and DNS relay, since the router is trying to send it one way, and the PC is demanding another way.
3. Static OpenDNS server.
4. Disable DNS Service. Then manually program the Domain > IP in your computers Host files.
5. Set up a DNS server on your LAN. I think that is beyond your need, and beyond the scope of this forum.

Theres probably some methods I am missing too, and theres a ton of combining those methods. Some of those methods don't well together, as discussed. Start off by replying with what you have already tried. I will start you off with two procedures to try after, and we will take it nice and slow. If you have the time, I have the time. And each time, we will have to wait a day or two, to feel out how it worked.
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Re: Router constantly resets with WoW and 2 computers.
« Reply #51 on: August 22, 2010, 10:10:57 AM »

For the router, Advanced DNS is enabled.

For the PC, I have set the DNS to use the ones listed in the Status Info of the DGL-4500.  Did I miss something somewhere??
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Re: Router constantly resets with WoW and 2 computers.
« Reply #52 on: August 22, 2010, 08:53:28 PM »

I would try disabling Advanced DNS and switch the DNS entries on the PC to the IP address of the router or same IP address as the Gateway IP address and see if this does anything.
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Re: Router constantly resets with WoW and 2 computers.
« Reply #53 on: August 23, 2010, 09:51:14 PM »

Well the thing about using advanced DNS is your using a server that is outside of your ISP's network. Which under certian conditions, can be bad. Not only can the server be far away possibly, but your modem and ISP can give a lower priorty to the traffic. I think if the attempt takes longer then the TTL, then it fails, and tried the alternate DNS, which advanced DNS does not have.

So turn off advanced DNS, then make sure the router is set to your ISP's primary and alt DNS, then enable DNS relay, and set the primary DNS of your PC to the 192.168.0.1 and the secondary to to the secondary DNS server you set on your router. I think thats the best of both worlds.
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Mogorain

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Re: Router constantly resets with WoW and 2 computers.
« Reply #54 on: September 02, 2010, 09:56:33 PM »

I gave up.   It worked fine for a few weeks with only a few short losses of connection, but tonight just totally reset again.  I could not even get into the setup of the router as it said there WAS no router.  It only showed that "Microsoft Infrastructure" thing again in my list of things on the network.  So I thank you guys for your time and patience.  I've removed the router and will just look for a new one.  Good luck to all of you who have the router.  :)


Anyone know of a nice router for online gaming?  I don't need all the bells and whistles, just something that stays connected...   Preferably not $200 or so...
« Last Edit: September 02, 2010, 10:40:22 PM by Mogorain »
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Trikein

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Re: Router constantly resets with WoW and 2 computers.
« Reply #55 on: September 03, 2010, 06:40:04 AM »

Linksys WRT54GS with Tomato 3rd party firmware loaded. Cheap, good, a bit more complex but a huge support community. Sorry you weren't able to get it fixed. Good luck.
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Re: Router constantly resets with WoW and 2 computers.
« Reply #56 on: September 03, 2010, 07:07:34 AM »

Awesome!  I actually HAVE that router that I replaced with the Dlink... standard firmware though.  I hadn't heard about the tomato firmware until after I purchased the 4500.
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