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Title: Motorola SB-6141
Post by: MintBubbleSpawn on April 25, 2012, 06:25:46 PM
Just got this modem from TWC and everything hooked right up with the dgl-4500 just fine.only issue is now when it goes to test the wan speed on boot up it comes up as "aborted did not converge" does anybody know what that means? I did reset the 4500 to default before I hooked up the 6141.

Thanks for any input.
Title: Re: Motorola SB-6141
Post by: FurryNutz on April 25, 2012, 08:12:52 PM
What is your ISP Speed UP and Down?
Title: Re: Motorola SB-6141
Post by: MintBubbleSpawn on April 25, 2012, 09:40:37 PM
30/5 D3 from TWC.

Router is V2 and came with 1.21 but is updated to 1.23na.

I set everything up from scratch with no loaded config files.

Modem doesn't have any settings other then reboot to factory specs.

I did notice it does say on the UI of the 6141 it has a built in dhcp server.

I wonder if that messes with the 4500's dhcp server?
Title: Re: Motorola SB-6141
Post by: FurryNutz on April 25, 2012, 10:16:16 PM
Sure its a 6141? Must be a new model maybe. Turn off Automatic Uplink as your uplink probably exceeds the 4500s measurement policys.
Title: Re: Motorola SB-6141
Post by: MintBubbleSpawn on April 25, 2012, 10:38:15 PM
I replaced a 6580 with the 6141 due to it being a stand alone modem.

the 6580 had the wireless and built in 4 port router.

the 6580 would read the speeds around 5500 under automatic.

and yes the 6141 is brand new from motorola and time warner.it's alot like the 6180.
it does the 8 bonded down"4 here" and 4 bonded up"0 here" and is ipv6 ready and has the built in noise filter and gigibit port.

http://www.motorola.com/Video-Solutions/US-EN/Products-and-Services/Voice-and-Data-Consumer-Premise-Equipment/DOCSIS-Modems-Gateways-and-eMTAs/Cable-Modems/SB6141-US-EN

whatever the "did not converge" thing is, it started with this 6141.

maybe reload firmware? idk.
Title: Re: Motorola SB-6141
Post by: FurryNutz on April 26, 2012, 07:07:37 AM
Try turning Off Automatic Uplink Speed on the 4500.
Title: Re: Motorola SB-6141
Post by: MintBubbleSpawn on April 26, 2012, 09:29:51 AM
I did that. just wanna know what "did not converge" means. what's not converging?

thanks again.
Title: Re: Motorola SB-6141
Post by: FurryNutz on April 26, 2012, 09:33:45 AM
Probably the process of data and the Automatic Uplink error reporting.
Title: Re: Motorola SB-6141
Post by: XS on April 27, 2012, 04:18:08 PM
My D-link has measured up 9M with no issues, I think even over 10M once.  Anyway, if you run a speedtest, what are the results?

Are you using the same network cables or new ones? 

If you log into your router and go to Basic>internet>manual configure:
What do you have for internet type?
Is primary and secondary DNS servers filled in?
is "use intercasting" checked or unchecked? Try both and test.
What is MTU set at?  should be 1500 for cable.

Under Advanced>Advanced network:
What is your WAN port speed at?

Under Advanced>Game fuel:
What is "connection type" set to?
If auto change to 1000Mbps and test.
If set to 1000Mbps, set to auto and test.
Title: Re: Motorola SB-6141
Post by: FurryNutz on May 02, 2012, 04:55:39 PM
I think he's tried this already.

How do you like the 6141 MBS?
How is it working for you?
Title: Re: Motorola SB-6141
Post by: MintBubbleSpawn on May 02, 2012, 05:02:35 PM
*Update

*My buddy who installed it also has the 4500 and the same D3 30/5 from Road Runner and he just installed a new 6141 and his 4500 reads the upload at around 5555.

anyways, so atleast I know it's not the modem.I will try some of the setup changes and see what happens.I havn't reloaded the fw yet.

my speeds are around 30/5 on speedtest.net .pingtest  is 30's with a grade A line.the whole network is cat6 with no changes.the dns is set. the wan is auto.the type is cable.mtu is 1500 and unicast is off "I have tested unicast on and off."

I will check back after some more testing I guess.
Title: Re: Motorola SB-6141
Post by: FurryNutz on May 02, 2012, 05:06:10 PM
Here's what I got using a DGL4500 A1 v1.15 connected to a SB 6180 50down/2up:
WAN Port Speed Setting vs Measured Uplink Speed :
100Mb
2538 kbps
1000Mb
2540 kbps
Auto
2536 kbps
Title: Re: Motorola SB-6141
Post by: XS on May 02, 2012, 05:06:47 PM
Someone else posted that if they set to WAN speed to 100M not 1000M it fixed the measured upload speed, try that out as well a let us know.  If the auto uplink works with WAN set to 100M, I would change to 1000M and just use manual uplink speed at 5120.
Title: Re: Motorola SB-6141
Post by: MintBubbleSpawn on May 02, 2012, 05:10:04 PM
I think he's tried this already.

How do you like the 6141 MBS?
How is it working for you?

So far it's a soild connection. I do get a bit faster ping then the 6580. gaming is flawless "other then my bad aim."

and over on visualware test site I get 97% quality vrs around 80 I was getting on the 6580.

I like it. but I am interested in that 6180 also :)
Title: Re: Motorola SB-6141
Post by: FurryNutz on May 02, 2012, 05:26:43 PM
Theres not much differences between the 6180 and the 6141. The 41 has USB connection, MoCa Filter and different Capture Bandwidth tuners is about it. They both do 8 chl bonding on the Down and 4 on the Up if your ISP supports it.
Title: Re: Motorola SB-6141
Post by: MintBubbleSpawn on May 04, 2012, 12:42:04 PM
*Update 2

Fixed!

Tried everything from setting changes to FW re-install. and nothing. until, I restored the modem to factory settings on the 6141 using the UI and while the 4500 was on and connected.

after talking with my isp's level 3 tech I learned that they were seeing my router as a NIC card from my PC  and not the 4500. "due to the fact I installed it hooked up to the PC before I added the 4500 into the mix. it seems the modem locked onto the NIC of the PC. and kept those settings even after hooking the 4500 up to the modem for the first time.

Anyways, Thanks again to Furry and all who gave insight into what could be the issue. not sure if anybody else is having this issue, but I hope this post will help.
Title: Re: Motorola SB-6141 (RESOLVED)
Post by: FurryNutz on May 04, 2012, 12:44:43 PM
Good to hear you got it resolved, Enjoy.
Title: Re: Motorola SB-6141
Post by: XS on May 04, 2012, 02:58:21 PM
Oh so you never reset the modem when you connected it to the 4500 initially?
Title: Re: Motorola SB-6141
Post by: FurryNutz on May 17, 2012, 11:05:23 AM
Here is a break down.

SB6120:
4 channels down, 4 channels up(4x4). Still the gold standard.

SB6121:
4x4, new case, MoCA filter.
Update:
Found this on a off site review of the SB-6121. This might work for users of this model on Time Warner Cable ISP Services- Not guaranteed though.
"I didn't feel like paying TWC money to lease a modem. I talked with multiple reps at Time Warner Cable (TWC) and they all said that they do not support the SB6121, but do support the SB6141. I really didn't want to spend $125 on a modem and because of someones post about how they have to support it (FCC regulations), I decided to buy one of the used SB6121 modems for $65. Once I was able to speak with someone at TWC (took 30 minutes of holding) I told the rep my MAC address, but told them my model number was SB6141 (supported in my area). Because the MAC address is the only thing that matters and they just wanted to check that I had a supported device there was no arguing and it took all of 2 minutes to activate. Again this was after two different reps told me the SB6121 would not work on their system.

I have only been using the modem for a short period of time, but have not had any problems. My ping time increased by about 5ms (not sure why), my upload speed didn't change, but my download speed increased by 5 to 10mb/s. This was without changing my internet plan.
"


SB6180:

8x4, new case, MoCa filter. Very hard to find.

SB6580:
8x4, new case, MoCA filter. Modem/Router Combo

SB6141:
8x4, new case, MoCA filter. Short answer, its uses a different tuner then the SB6180. Similar performance.

SB6183: Arris Branded
16x8,

SB6190: Arris Branded
32x8,
https://www.dslreports.com/forum/r31079834-ALL-SB6190-is-a-terrible-modem-Intel-Puma-6-MaxLinear-mistake (https://www.dslreports.com/forum/r31079834-ALL-SB6190-is-a-terrible-modem-Intel-Puma-6-MaxLinear-mistake)
Title: Re: Motorola SB-6141
Post by: kargo27 on May 17, 2012, 01:02:20 PM
Nice info Furry!
Title: Re: Motorola SB-6141
Post by: FurryNutz on May 17, 2012, 01:19:17 PM
Will probably make this a sticky for SB modems.  ;D There turning out to be some good modems. I really like em.  ;)