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Title: ntfs storage device
Post by: abctony on May 03, 2013, 01:40:45 PM
Hello everyone,

I'm trying to connect my segate backup plus 3TB external hard drive to my d-link dir-857 router via usb 3.0. However I'm  not able to see it using the shareport plus utility or at the d-link router wireless router homepage. I went to setup and then to storage and it says number of devices as 0. I'm not sure if I had to format this hard drive to exfat but I thought it support ntfs format. Any help would be appreciated. Thank you.

-Tony
Title: Re: ntfs storage device
Post by: FurryNutz on May 03, 2013, 01:53:56 PM
What is the Make and model of the 3Tb drive?
Be ware that officially D-Link only supports drives of 500Gb size on there routers.
Does the drive use any Mfr proprietary formatting?
Title: Re: ntfs storage device
Post by: abctony on May 03, 2013, 02:22:18 PM
Its the Seagate Backup Plus 3TB Model number STCA3000101. Its default format is ntfs.
Title: Re: ntfs storage device
Post by: FurryNutz on May 03, 2013, 02:27:28 PM
Only thing I would try is to blow away the partitioning and formatting and reset a new paritition and format for FAT32 and see. I feel lucky that my WD MyBook 2Tb drive works using WD software to maximize the size. I think it's NTFS though with some form of compression. I believe that physically there are 2 500Gb drives inside though.

One thing I would advise against is doing this long term as these routers, when and if they connect to these drives, need to scan the drive for content. Having these large drive sized increases the scan time, so if you can imaging, if you had a full 3Tb drive full with data, you can only imaging how long it would take to scan. They do not update if you put something on the drive at that time, you have to reboot the router for the changes to take effect I believe.

I use my 2Tb connected to a always ON dedicated PC for live storage.  ;)

Title: Re: ntfs storage device
Post by: bs27975 on May 05, 2013, 01:52:51 PM
DIR-857 manual says max 1TB. (I think I saw elsewhere that larger sizes work, but are not 'officially' supported. I don't remember if there were other caveats surrounding larger sizes.)

Manual also completely misses any discussion of setup / storage. {sigh}

Accompanying shareport plus manual speaks only to the windows accompanying access utility, not any router settings.

It would be UNREASONABLE for the behaviour described if a partition is actually present. Any device, seeing a partition with a filesystem it does not understand, should not touch it. But it SHOULD list it.

I can think of two possibilities where this might not be true - (1) GPT table instead of traditional FAT table; (2) whole disk used as single partition, with no partition table at all.

I can see (1) becoming more and more prevalent - it shouldn't usually kick in as an issue until you're using a disk greater than about 2.2 TB. Frequently even such disks can use a FAT partition table, with more than one primary partition defined - just nothing larger than about 2.2TB.

Which is all to say ... even if the 815 doesn't support NTFS, it should at least have shown you a partition was present. I would have hoped. Any other behaviour would be ... nasty / non-standard / nefarious / pick your word. Even if it shows a partition type of RAW.

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Actually ... I haven't gotten that far, but ... if you connect a device, are there options present for formatting it? Do you have a choice of format types? (I could but hope for ext4?)

That will probably answer the formats supported question.
Title: Re: ntfs storage device
Post by: FurryNutz on May 05, 2013, 01:55:35 PM
Could be a number of issues as well. Seen it where some drives needs additional Power provided by an adapter to help.

Overall, seen various issues surrounding the USB port and external drive. I wish it was more stabilized and consistent across the router line.
Title: Re: ntfs storage device
Post by: bs27975 on May 05, 2013, 02:12:57 PM
Good point on power.

Given http://forums.dlink.com/index.php?topic=50054.msg184694#msg184694, showing support of SDXC using NTFS, I can't image the USB not doing so. (But stranger things ...)