D-Link Forums

The Graveyard - Products No Longer Supported => D-Link Storage => DNS-323 => Topic started by: aitrus on March 02, 2009, 07:33:43 PM

Title: UPnP AV SErver Not working
Post by: aitrus on March 02, 2009, 07:33:43 PM
Ok here is the point...

I have 2 roommates, nice people we like to watch movies, tv shows, listen to music.. the usual..

We have an Xbox 360 and a PS3.. so we started to use windows media player to stream our video and audio files and share our music on iTunes..

We wanted a central place to store our stuff so that we could all watch/listen to anything we want at any time, mainly to stream video on the xbox 360 or PS3..

I got a DNS-323.. got it home.. places a 1Terabit Seagate SATA drive in it.

logged on to my router and figured out the IP address of the DNS-323.. logged onto the DNS-323 and checked for firmware updates.. updated the firmware to 1.06.

Ran the setup wizard after the firmware update from the web interface, and formatted my drive as a single drive..

Shared the Volume_1 folder as ready/write..

used the easy find utility to mount the drive as Z: drive on my windows box and installed the BT client.

I uploaded 5 videos and audio files.. Booted up my xbox 360 and was able to connect to the DNS-323 and watch everything ok.

I then uploaded the rest of my 500GB of stuff...

ok now here is the problem.. before the DNS-323 all my stuff worked just fine from windows media player streaming to the xbox or PS3..  but after I have the media on the DND-323 it stopped working.. how you might ask..

Well.. there are no files listed as shared.. so I restarted the device and disable then enabled UPnP..  Some of the files and folders appeared.. but I could now only stream like 1 files.. no other files worked.. even the other 4 I uploaded the first place didn’t work..

What am I doing wrong? why will this just not work…

I called Dlink and they walked me through checking my DLINK router over and confirming security setting..

Dlink said “its a bug” and told me to wait for firmware... but then if its a bug would I be the only one with this issue..?  P.s.  I was testing with AVI, MP4, and divx files.. all files worked fine before…

What am I missing is there anything I can try more?  and is anyone else having this issue or issues streaming to xbox 360 using upnp...?
Title: Re: UPnP AV SErver Not working
Post by: CARB1DE on March 02, 2009, 11:28:09 PM
I got the SAME problem....except I cant even see the bloody files on the 323....I have firmware 1.06 and everything I can think of for it to work but its not....iv just tried to disable the UPnP and then re enable it to see if that works but anyone one have a idea y I cannot see any files on my 360...I did purchase a media sonic but it couldnt do video but I could see the HDD on the console, but to say again I cant see a darn thing on mine with the 323....should I get another one to see if that might work better?
Title: Re: UPnP AV SErver Not working
Post by: talonted on March 03, 2009, 07:36:32 AM
If files are not showing up in one of your media folders, check to make sure that none of the filenames in that folder have a '&' in it.  If it does, remove it.  Do this for all media files.

Steps to do try out:
1) Power down xbox/ps3
2) Reset the DNS-323 to Factory Defaults
3) Go to UPnP AV section, enable UPnP AV, set media share folder
4) Save settings
5) Refresh UPnP AV list
6) Power on xbox/ps3 and see if media list comes/plays
Title: Re: UPnP AV SErver Not working
Post by: aitrus on March 03, 2009, 09:29:09 AM
First off I don't see any file folders.. so forget the files there are no even folders..

when I disable then enable upnp I sometimes can see some files and folders but they don't work (can't be plaid)

second those steps you just ask me to do i did on my own and with DLink support over the phone..

unfortunately its still not working..

What I would expect to see is my folder structure my files and that the files that I tested DNS 323 with originally, would still work at least..  this is not the case.. the originl 5 files I tested with don't show or don't work..


After preforming the resetup I don't even see any files or folders
Title: Re: UPnP AV SErver Not working
Post by: bripab007 on March 03, 2009, 09:57:09 AM
After upgrading to firmware ver 1.06, did you perform a "Reset to Defaults" on the DNS-323?  If not, I would suggest doing that now, then starting over with the UPnP server setup.  With SOHO/home-grade networking devices, it's best to do an NVRAM reset both before AND after upgrading to a new firmware.

Secondly, if it worked with 5 files, then stopped working after adding in the in ~500GB of files, then chances are you have some files somewhere in that 500GB that're the cause of the problem.  I would suggest adding a little at a time (e.g. add in the T.V. shows, test, add in movies, test, add in music, test, etc.).
Title: Re: UPnP AV SErver Not working
Post by: aitrus on March 03, 2009, 09:59:56 AM
I did the firmware update before I did the setup.. and then reset everything to factory and re setup everything again with D Link on the phone..

Second I tried to add one folder with 10 files and it didn't work then I tried the original 5 by them selves again.. still didn't work.. it seems like it works randomly...
Title: Re: UPnP AV SErver Not working
Post by: talonted on March 03, 2009, 10:40:16 AM
Try this...sorry if you may have already tried this but it's worth a little troubleshooting.

1) Create a folder on one of your volumes called Test
2) Transfer 1 video file that you know the 360 is compatible with
3) Reset the DNS-323 to Factory Defaults
4) Enable the UPnP AV
5) Set the share folder by Browsing to the Test folder
6) Save Settings
7) Refresh List
8) Turn on 360 and see if the file shows up/plays
Title: Re: UPnP AV SErver Not working
Post by: aitrus on March 03, 2009, 10:51:46 AM
I did that I but even when to the extreme of resetting the unit to factory settings and then resetting my Xbox.. what happened was that when I went to brows by folder nothing was there - the xbox displayed "no folder or files", then when I went to brows by video I was able to see some content but none of it worked and these files have worked before..

If someone has about 500GB or more of stuff(music, pic, video, etc) and folder structure on there 323 on firmware 1.06 please let me know as I then might think of returning the unit as defective for another.. if no one has this working please let me know..
Title: Re: UPnP AV SErver Not working
Post by: mig on March 03, 2009, 11:22:52 AM
Are you running your network on 192.168.1.x?  There is a know bug with the
UPnP server which requires this network address schema.

more details: http://forums.dlink.com/index.php?topic=3025.msg18111#msg18111
Title: Re: UPnP AV SErver Not working
Post by: aitrus on March 03, 2009, 11:29:27 AM
Honestly I have never heard or can not think why that would be the issue but I have not tried that, so I will the onlything that will kinda bug me is that I will have to make new IP reservation..

I am currently using 192.168.0.X and I will try the range of 192.168.1.X and post the results tonight..
Title: Re: UPnP AV SErver Not working
Post by: bripab007 on March 03, 2009, 02:35:55 PM
Also, when I was using the DNS-323's built-in UPnP server, it used to take up to two hours after adding files and performing a refresh on the DNS-323 web GUI before the new files would show up on the 360.
Title: Re: UPnP AV SErver Not working
Post by: Buhric on March 03, 2009, 06:28:25 PM
I personaly have about 400Gb (over 1200 files and 500 folders)of movies and TV Shows on my DNS-323 and i have no issues sharing them with 2 xbox360 - one connected with a wire and and the other via wireless....

the following is my folder structure
Volume_1\Movies\MovieName\Moviename.avi
A "MovieName" folder can contain 1 or more .AVI

99.9% of all my videos are DivX or Xvid (might have a couple of MPG or WMV)

The Folder "Movies" is the one selected in the UPnP Settings

If I add any new movies or rename the folders
I just have to click on the "refresh" button on the DNS-323 GUI, and let complete to 100%
To see the update on the 360....


Title: Re: UPnP AV SErver Not working
Post by: bripab007 on March 03, 2009, 06:36:43 PM
Well, I have about 22,000 music files, 600 video files and 2,200 photos, and it used to take about 30-35min. for a full refresh and another 1-2hrs for them to finally show up on the 360.  So, if this person has a lot of files, I'd say, "be patient."
Title: Re: UPnP AV SErver Not working
Post by: aitrus on March 03, 2009, 08:55:47 PM
Ok so I re setup my whole home network to use the 192.168.1.1 network..  I have over 13 devices that half of them are on static IP addresses so I had to list them and there MAC and then enter them all manually then make DNS changes..

Moral of story was I re setup everything and started to transfer the files.. Everything started to work.. So I was so happy.

So with everything working I decided to organize my folders.. Moving my files around and consolidating my folder structure.. for example my two roommates moved up their movie collection so I hade the folders movies, movies1, and movies2 (all the files working in the individual folders)  I then moved all the movies into the first movies folder and deleted the movie1 and movies2 folders.

Checked on my xbox and PS3.. The upnp still showed these folders.. So I think it’s just not updating the upnp structure, as I just read it may take some time.. I have about 700Gig of stuff so I am giving it till morning and will update the post.. Is there no other way to speed up the upnp update and will the hard drive sleep after 10 min cause a problem as it’s a default setting of the unit?
Title: Re: UPnP AV SErver Not working
Post by: aitrus on March 03, 2009, 09:00:48 PM
P.S.  How to you Refresh it.. what are the steps?
Title: Re: UPnP AV SErver Not working
Post by: CARB1DE on March 04, 2009, 12:04:23 AM
I finally got my 360 to reconize the HDD but when I tried to play files that I knew worked on the PC it gave me error that it wasnt able to play, what could that be?
Title: Re: UPnP AV SErver Not working
Post by: aitrus on March 04, 2009, 06:22:19 AM
Ok so I tried the refresh and it worked so far.

I figured that I was consolidating folders and that’s when it stopped working.

I jumped onto the portal > configuration > Advances > UPNP AV Server > clicked on refresh

funny, i read the user manual and there was a setting drop down but they removed it in 1.06..

so I hit refresh that took a good 10 minutes then I went to bed and when I got up files seem to be working and folders are all there.. I will try more tonight but man 2 hours to refresh is a bit much..
Title: Re: UPnP AV SErver Not working
Post by: bripab007 on March 04, 2009, 07:25:56 AM
Yeah, the built-in UPnP server is just plain-old slow!

It took about roughly 30-35min. to do a full refresh on my media files and about 2 hours to show up on a UPnP client device on my network (e.g. the 360, another computer, etc.).

I installed Twonky UPnP server on my DNS-323 a couple weeks ago, and, with the same media library, it takes roughly 2-3minutes for a full refresh, and the files show up immediately after that refresh on the other UPnP client devices.  Needless to say, I paid the $29.95 for the Twonky license :-)
Title: Re: UPnP AV SErver Not working
Post by: 007james on March 04, 2009, 09:42:29 AM
Yeah, the built-in UPnP server is just plain-old slow!

It took about roughly 30-35min. to do a full refresh on my media files and about 2 hours to show up on a UPnP client device on my network (e.g. the 360, another computer, etc.).

I installed Twonky UPnP server on my DNS-323 a couple weeks ago, and, with the same media library, it takes roughly 2-3minutes for a full refresh, and the files show up immediately after that refresh on the other UPnP client devices.  Needless to say, I paid the $29.95 for the Twonky license :-)

Did you need to reinstall linux as well or did you just install Twonky on the existing Linux OS? Does Twonky support .wav files ? Did you need to uninstall the existing media software as well?
Thanks
Title: Re: UPnP AV SErver Not working
Post by: bripab007 on March 04, 2009, 11:38:20 AM
No, all you need to do install the FONZ Fun_Plug which is a startup script that allows the DNS-323 to run other services, programs, etc. on bootup.  The only one of which you really are concerned with is a telnet service.

Once you've got a telnet service running and listening on the DNS-323, you just download the Twonky installer, point it to the telnet server's address (the address of your DNS-323), and it'll unpack Twonky, install it to a folder on the DNS-323 and add the Twonky service as a startup item in the FONZ Fun_Plug script.

I am not sure if Twonky serves up .wav files, as I have none myself.  You'd have to check their site.
Title: Re: UPnP AV SErver Not working
Post by: CARB1DE on March 04, 2009, 11:42:50 PM
how can I get my avi vid files to play over the nas??? cauze it can on the PC but not my 360...is there another way?
Title: Re: UPnP AV SErver Not working
Post by: bripab007 on March 05, 2009, 06:03:30 AM
When I was using the DNS-323's UPnP server, I had a helluva time getting any .avi videos to stream correctly.  I tried all kinds of variations on codecs, containers, bitrates, etc. and finally gave up.
Title: Re: UPnP AV SErver Not working
Post by: 007james on March 05, 2009, 08:26:32 AM
Thanks for the response. I will try Twonky on my Linux Laptop first to test .wav files and other functionality

No, all you need to do install the FONZ Fun_Plug which is a startup script that allows the DNS-323 to run other services, programs, etc. on bootup.  The only one of which you really are concerned with is a telnet service.

Once you've got a telnet service running and listening on the DNS-323, you just download the Twonky installer, point it to the telnet server's address (the address of your DNS-323), and it'll unpack Twonky, install it to a folder on the DNS-323 and add the Twonky service as a startup item in the FONZ Fun_Plug script.

I am not sure if Twonky serves up .wav files, as I have none myself.  You'd have to check their site.
Title: Re: UPnP AV SErver Not working
Post by: CARB1DE on March 05, 2009, 03:16:05 PM
When I was using the DNS-323's UPnP server, I had a helluva time getting any .avi videos to stream correctly.  I tried all kinds of variations on codecs, containers, bitrates, etc. and finally gave up.

but I dont want to give up.....I want it to work cauze that is why I bought it, to stream anywhere on my network
Title: Re: UPnP AV SErver Not working
Post by: Buhric on March 08, 2009, 04:35:06 PM
CARB1DE:
use a software like gspot to check what kind of AVI you got.

Per experience all DivX and Xvid with MP3 audio (either CBR or VBR) works fine

If the xbox sees the .AVI, but when you go to play it, it gives out an error message....
take a look at the Folder/File name where the AVI is
try not to use any special Characters (spaces are OK) and make sure that the folder/file name stays under 70 char total.... (I had an issue that AVI would not play if the full path + filename was over 70 chars)
Title: Re: UPnP AV SErver Not working
Post by: CARB1DE on March 08, 2009, 09:35:49 PM
CARB1DE:
use a software like gspot to check what kind of AVI you got.

Per experience all DivX and Xvid with MP3 audio (either CBR or VBR) works fine

If the xbox sees the .AVI, but when you go to play it, it gives out an error message....
take a look at the Folder/File name where the AVI is
try not to use any special Characters (spaces are OK) and make sure that the folder/file name stays under 70 char total.... (I had an issue that AVI would not play if the full path + filename was over 70 chars)



I dont know what I did but I got it going on the Vid part and it worls EXCATLY the way I want it to
Title: Re: UPnP AV SErver Not working
Post by: dexstroyer on March 09, 2009, 05:31:33 AM
This is the same problem Im having, and with little experience in this im not having any fun :'(

I can see the content through the pc's but not the 360's

the path I have is volume_1/video/tv series/dr who/season 1/ (as an example) since I have only put dr who on there as a test maybe it's the length of the path as described above.

Other thing is that it wont recognise the title of "beyonce" or some of the artists which in the subfolders there are no characters etc, but it just displays them as "other"

I tried the twonky then discovered you need the "telnet" and other stuff but stopped at the part where the telnet did not work after reading a post warning you can brick the unit...... :-\

By the way im using 2 x maxtor 250gb in a Jbod configuration, like I say totally new to all this so if anyone can give me a pointer or another way to start, I dont mind starting fresh, formatting etc I'd be very grateful.