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Title: Playstation 3 issues with dir-655
Post by: brichter45 on January 21, 2010, 07:11:07 AM
Well I just want to be able to play my playstation 3 online hooked up to this thing. Everytime I try and play a game online like Modern Warfare 2 It lags and lags and logs me out. The only way i can play is if i Plug the Playstation 3 directly into my modem. Is there something i'm missing? Should i be port forwarding? Thanks in advance for the feedback.

I have A4 with 1.32NA installed. If you need more information for troubleshooting please let me know. Thanks.

I'm connecting via Cat 6 cable directly to my router.
Title: Re: Playstation 3 issues with dir-655
Post by: Cobra on January 21, 2010, 07:25:40 AM
The logs show?????

First place I look when there are issues is the log as it is, after all, what it is for.

You should upgrade to the new beta as it is solving issues for some people.
Title: Re: Playstation 3 issues with dir-655
Post by: brichter45 on January 21, 2010, 07:26:38 AM
Thanks Cobra,

I will upgrade to the beta this evening and post the logs.
Title: Re: Playstation 3 issues with dir-655
Post by: brichter45 on January 21, 2010, 07:39:38 AM
I'm wondering if i have too many other items plugged into the network at the same time and that's why performance is wavering. I have a Windows home server, a windows 7 desktop, a laptop (via wireless) hooked up to the router. The WHS and Desktop are attached to a dlink gig switch that is plugged into the router. I'll try disconnecting that and see what performance is like.
Title: Re: Playstation 3 issues with dir-655
Post by: Cobra on January 21, 2010, 07:47:15 AM
I'm wondering if i have too many other items plugged into the network at the same time and that's why performance is wavering. I have a Windows home server, a windows 7 desktop, a laptop (via wireless) hooked up to the router. The WHS and Desktop are attached to a dlink gig switch that is plugged into the router. I'll try disconnecting that and see what performance is like.

May need to go into QOS and set it up.
Title: Re: Playstation 3 issues with dir-655
Post by: brichter45 on January 21, 2010, 07:57:13 AM
I do have the QOS engine enabled and automatic classificaiton enabled  along with dynamic fragmentation. I haven't set any QOS engine rules yet because i haven't looked into it enough and don't feel like screwing it up.
Title: Re: Playstation 3 issues with dir-655
Post by: brichter45 on January 21, 2010, 08:22:11 AM
Also a dumb question, I'm not an expert as i'm sure you know. but what is the difference between the WISH rules and the QOS engine rules? Don't they both Prioritize traffic of different applications?

Thanks.
Title: Re: Playstation 3 issues with dir-655
Post by: Cobra on January 21, 2010, 10:03:56 AM
WISH just handles wireless so if wired are hogging the bandwidth you will lag on wireless.

QOS can prioritize game traffic over all other.
Title: Re: Playstation 3 issues with dir-655
Post by: brichter45 on January 21, 2010, 10:07:19 AM
Thanks Cobra I'll play around with it tonight when i get home.
Title: Re: Playstation 3 issues with dir-655
Post by: brichter45 on January 21, 2010, 08:26:06 PM
Well i upgraded to 1.33 beta. Set up everything on my network and tried to play Playstation online for a bit. Then as usual it booted me with this log message. \

[INFO] Thu Jan 21 22:20:35 2010 WAN interface speed measurement aborted as they did not converge
[INFO] Thu Jan 21 22:20:23 2010 UPnP deleted entry 255.255.255.255 <-> 67.162.8.215:3658 UDP
[INFO] Thu Jan 21 22:20:16 2010 Estimating speed of WAN interface
[INFO] Thu Jan 21 22:20:15 2010 Obtained IP Address using DHCP. IP address is 67.162.8.215
[INFO] Thu Jan 21 22:20:14 2010 Lost lease on IP Address
[INFO] Thu Jan 21 22:19:55 2010 Estimating speed of WAN interface
[INFO] Thu Jan 21 22:19:54 2010 Obtained IP Address using DHCP. IP address is 192.168.100.2
[INFO] Thu Jan 21 22:19:53 2010 Bringing up WAN using DHCP
[INFO] Thu Jan 21 22:19:53 2010 WAN interface cable has been connected
[INFO] Thu Jan 21 22:19:51 2010 WAN interface cable has been disconnected

Maybe replacing the cable from the Wan to the Modem?
Title: Re: Playstation 3 issues with dir-655
Post by: Cobra on January 21, 2010, 08:37:31 PM
How long do you have the router set to keep IP address?

I see it lost the IP lease which would make you lose connection.
Title: Re: Playstation 3 issues with dir-655
Post by: brichter45 on January 21, 2010, 08:53:53 PM
DHCP lease time is 1440
Title: Re: Playstation 3 issues with dir-655
Post by: brichter45 on January 21, 2010, 08:59:00 PM
That's for the DHCP server on the router. are you talking about something different?
Title: Re: Playstation 3 issues with dir-655
Post by: samssf on January 21, 2010, 09:54:09 PM
1. If you check your internet connection from the PS3 while wired to the DIR-655, does it show UPnP enabled and Nat Type 2?

2. Are you noticing any other suspecious behavior from the router, such as login timeouts or slow page loading from other machines?

I have my PS3 wired and I've had lag trouble with the router which has required me to reboot it and then things are ok. But I haven't had trouble with being booted out, since I changed my MTU on my router to 1492, as was required by my PPPoE DSL connection.

Also, are you doing double NAT? Meaning, is your modem performing NAT as well as the DIR 655? If so, consider putting the modem into bridge mode which will allow the router to talk with the ISP over PPPoE or PPPoA I belive... Doing NAT on the modem as well as the router might slow things down a little more. If you're not sure how to do this... You'll need to write down the connection settings to your ISP, such as your ISP login username and password, as well as DNS settings that your modem is using. Do this first before changing things.
Title: Re: Playstation 3 issues with dir-655
Post by: brichter45 on January 22, 2010, 09:02:18 AM
1. the Playstation shows UPnP enabled and Nat Type 2

2. Before the upgrade to 1.33 beta i noticed that wireless would sometimes drop out just like the playstation network would. But it was usually only under heavy use IE. downloading a large file.

I have Comcast Internet so they provided me the modem. Maybe i should see what MTU i should set the modem as. Otherwise i might try switching out the Ethernet cable coming from the modem to the router as If i plug my playstation directly into the modem no drops happen.
Title: Re: Playstation 3 issues with dir-655
Post by: brichter45 on January 22, 2010, 02:44:25 PM
Well looks like a different cable plugged into the WAN port didn't help. This time it disconnected without using the playstation. Same error message in the log.


[INFO] Fri Jan 22 16:33:41 2010 Estimating speed of WAN interface
[INFO] Fri Jan 22 16:33:40 2010 Obtained IP Address using DHCP. IP address is 67.162.8.215
[INFO] Fri Jan 22 16:33:39 2010 Lost lease on IP Address
[WARN] Fri Jan 22 16:33:20 2010 securespot services cannot start without at least one DNS server.
[INFO] Fri Jan 22 16:33:20 2010 Dropped packet from 192.168.100.2 to 255.255.255.255 (IP protocol 17) as unable to create new session
[INFO] Fri Jan 22 16:33:20 2010 Estimating speed of WAN interface
[INFO] Fri Jan 22 16:33:19 2010 Obtained IP Address using DHCP. IP address is 192.168.100.2
[INFO] Fri Jan 22 16:33:18 2010 Bringing up WAN using DHCP
[INFO] Fri Jan 22 16:33:18 2010 WAN interface cable has been connected
[INFO] Fri Jan 22 16:33:15 2010 WAN interface cable has been disconnected

Hey Cobra where do i check the lease time setting? Or i'm thinking when I try to do to much on the network it just reboots. I know i was moving about 8gigs from my laptop to my server, BUT the laptop and server are connected Via a dlink gig switch so idk.
Title: Re: Playstation 3 issues with dir-655
Post by: brichter45 on January 22, 2010, 02:54:37 PM
After I posted this the same thing happened again and I wasn't moving anything. HMM I wonder what other settings I can try and tweak.
Title: Re: Playstation 3 issues with dir-655
Post by: brichter45 on January 22, 2010, 03:01:36 PM
I just unplugged it for 15 seconds and plugged it back in, i'll see how long it takes to disconnect again.
Title: Re: Playstation 3 issues with dir-655
Post by: lotacus on January 22, 2010, 07:14:37 PM
Um, you have that router going into something else? My question to you is why are there two dhcp servers running on your network? looks like your WAN is being deauthenticated for some reason.

I think your server configuration is wrong. You wan is trying to auth with your server which it obtains an ip address as seen in the log. 192.168.100.2, but it looks like, from your logs, that you have not configured a DNS server or a DNS forwarder. The other discrepancy that I see here, that i'm getting from the logs is that it is quickly loosing that ip address, which I believe could only mean that the IP address is already in use. I see this because 1: it quickly looses it's lease and 2, the log shows it dropped a packet from 192.168.100.2. Meaning that the router is dropping it's own packet to itself, which is not possible and illogical. Once that local IP lease has been lost, it is authenticating with your ISP, the way it should be.

Title: Re: Playstation 3 issues with dir-655
Post by: brichter45 on January 22, 2010, 07:18:51 PM
I'm not sure why there would be two running. I only have the Router plugged into the modem and then a Gig switch plugged into the router. I was wondering what the DHCP IP 192.168.1.100 was coming from.
Title: Re: Playstation 3 issues with dir-655
Post by: lotacus on January 22, 2010, 07:39:35 PM
see my above post that I edited. From the logs, It would appear to me that you have the  dir plugged into the switch via it's uplink port and your server plugged into the switch


your network typology  looks like this?


      Modem                dir655                     switch                               Client PC
      wan     LAN         WAN      LAN                    LAN
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Title: Re: Playstation 3 issues with dir-655
Post by: brichter45 on January 22, 2010, 11:43:34 PM
Yes The server and the PC'S are all on the switch. I'm using the DGS 2205 switch and there is no uplink port. The use of MDI/MDI-X crossover on all ports eliminate the need for crossover cables or uplink ports.

I currently have the server using a static IP address. I have port forwarding to that server on 3 ports. I guess i can try and unplug the server from the switch reboot the router and see how that goes.
Title: Re: Playstation 3 issues with dir-655
Post by: lotacus on January 23, 2010, 08:25:47 AM
Ok. If that's the setup and you have no bridging being done on the dir-655's wan and lan1 port. Then there may be the possibility that the modem is assigning that IP address of 192.168.100.2.

What is the make and model of the modem?

I have a siemens gigaset567 for my ppoe modem, and it's actually a gateway, so it's a modem/router/AP in one and it is garbage. So I have my dir-825 (sorry dont use the 655 anymore) connected to the gigaset and the dir is set to dial the ppoe connection. What used to happen for a while is that it would get kicked off the network because ISP detected two instances of the connection. It seems that that gigaset always wanted to use the ppoe connection and started dialing out. So finally I disabled the sucker.

So I am guessing though that you dont use ppoe and that your on cable. What is odd however, is that it first obtains a 100.2 ip address, gets booted, then obtains a public IP address. if it were to get that private IP address your modem would have to have a DHCP server installed. Then the question arises, why is it being booted and then gets an external IP address? Almost seems like bridging on the modem if there is any is being finicky.

That's why I ask what the make/model of the modem is so I can better understand the hardware.

and can you look through your logs or even "internet traffic" and see if you see any requests (whether they be denied or allowed) coming from 192.168.100.1 ? and go to your routing table in the dir (it doesn't have much of a useful table but hey) and see if there are any instances of 192.168.100.0 and/or 100.1

as well, see if in the dir internet setup, if you can clone your computers MAC address. i'm not sure if you had originally had only your computer hooked up to the modem, or what was hooked up to the modem before you got the dir655. So it's probably moot if you did that.
Title: Re: Playstation 3 issues with dir-655
Post by: brichter45 on January 23, 2010, 02:52:44 PM
The model is a Motorola Surfboard 5120 Cable Modem. I didn't find anything in the routing table for 100.0 /100.1. Before i Bought this router I had a Linksys WRT54GL hooked up to the modem. I'm still kind of baffled as to what could be the problem.

Thanks for the help!
Title: Re: Playstation 3 issues with dir-655
Post by: brichter45 on January 23, 2010, 06:31:30 PM
Well tonight i decided to upgrade to the newest beta firmware. I did a reset on the router and entered all the settings back in and i still get the same error message.

[INFO] Sat Jan 31 12:10:21 2004 WAN interface speed measurement completed.  Upstream speed is 4459 kbps
[INFO] Sat Jan 31 12:09:55 2004 Estimating speed of WAN interface
[INFO] Sat Jan 31 12:09:54 2004 Obtained IP Address using DHCP. IP address is 67.162.8.215
[INFO] Sat Jan 31 12:09:52 2004 Lost lease on IP Address
[INFO] Sat Jan 31 12:09:33 2004 Estimating speed of WAN interface
[INFO] Sat Jan 31 12:09:32 2004 Obtained IP Address using DHCP. IP address is 192.168.100.2
[INFO] Sat Jan 31 12:09:31 2004 Bringing up WAN using DHCP
[INFO] Sat Jan 31 12:09:31 2004 WAN interface cable has been connected
[INFO] Sat Jan 31 12:09:29 2004 WAN interface cable has been disconnected
Title: Re: Playstation 3 issues with dir-655
Post by: lotacus on January 23, 2010, 06:54:36 PM
hey brichter45 as I suspected, the cause is coming from the modem.


see this thread here on dlsreports http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15351516

It describes the problem similar to yours, and someone posted a way to turn off the DHCP server in the modem but it requires a little trickery. BTW if you have comcast? I'm pretty sure those models are obsolete now/EOL, you may be able to talk your way into getting a newer replacment modem.
Title: Re: Playstation 3 issues with dir-655
Post by: Cobra on January 23, 2010, 07:46:47 PM
The 5120 is one of the best modems right now for Comcast unless you want to step up to the 6120 which is DOCSIS 3.
Title: Re: Playstation 3 issues with dir-655
Post by: brichter45 on January 23, 2010, 07:51:03 PM
Thanks Lotacus, I went ahead and looked at my Modem log and see a ton of these little errors
TSM: TxError WatchDog - Restart Upstream
HAL: Overcoming Tx Error (reseting the US - DMA)

I'm going to see about getting a new modem or talking to the people on the dslreports forum.


I noticed that it probably has something to do with uTorrent running on my WHS as well. I'll see. Thanks Again!
Title: Re: Playstation 3 issues with dir-655
Post by: Cobra on January 23, 2010, 08:35:39 PM
Do you have an amplifier or some kind of booster on your line?

What do your signal levels look like on the modem page?
Title: Re: Playstation 3 issues with dir-655
Post by: brichter45 on January 23, 2010, 08:57:28 PM
Downstream

Frequency 711000000 Hz
Signal to Noise Ratio 34 dB
QAM QAM256
Network Access Control Object ON
Power Level -7 dBmV

Upstream

Channel ID 7
Frequency 34400000
Ranging Service ID 5280
Symbol Rate 5.120 Msym/s
Power Level 41 dBmV
Title: Re: Playstation 3 issues with dir-655
Post by: Cobra on January 23, 2010, 10:39:52 PM
Well your levels are still within spec but downstream power level is getting close to out of spec.

here are my levels if you want to compare (SB5120) with the main difference between us in bold:

Downstream

Signal to Noise Ratio 38 dB
QAM QAM256
Network Access Control Object ON
Power Level 5 dBmV

Upstream

Power Level 45 dBmV
Title: Re: Playstation 3 issues with dir-655
Post by: brichter45 on January 23, 2010, 11:22:53 PM
Hmm odd i do believe that they added an amplifier at one point. but if you aren't haven't issues with around the same settings then i won't worry that much. Is your DHCP server enabled in your modem?
Title: Re: Playstation 3 issues with dir-655
Post by: kthaddock on January 24, 2010, 02:34:41 AM
Well your levels are still within spec but downstream power level is getting close to out of spec.

here are my levels if you want to compare (SB5120) with the main difference between us in bold:

Downstream

Signal to Noise Ratio 38 dB
QAM QAM256
Network Access Control Object ON
Power Level 5 dBmV

Upstream

Power Level 45 dBmV



What is " dbmV  dbm is "dbm"  0dbm=1mw over your specified impedance.

kthaddock
Title: Re: Playstation 3 issues with dir-655
Post by: Cobra on January 24, 2010, 08:09:01 AM


What is " dbmV  dbm is "dbm"  0dbm=1mw over your specified impedance.

kthaddock

dbm is milliwatt while adding V to the end is millivolt.

Watt and voltage are a lot different.
Title: Re: Playstation 3 issues with dir-655
Post by: Cobra on January 24, 2010, 08:16:02 AM
[WARN] Fri Jan 22 16:33:20 2010 securespot services cannot start without at least one DNS server.

If you are not using securespot then disable it in the router.
Title: Re: Playstation 3 issues with dir-655
Post by: kthaddock on January 24, 2010, 08:36:39 AM
dbm is milliwatt while adding V to the end is millivolt.

Watt and voltage are a lot different.

dBmV. This unit is used in television receiver systems in which the system
impedance is 75 ohms, rather than the 50 ohms normally used in other RF
systems. It refers to the signal voltage, measured in decibels, with respect
to a signal level of one millivolt (1mV) across a 75 ohm resistance (0 dBmv).
In many TV specs, 1 mV is the full quieting signal that produces no "snow"
(i.e. noise) in the displayed picture.

0dBm = 48.75 dBmV.

The dBmV is a unit of signal power, not voltage, because the impedance is
held constant at 75 ohms.

kthaddock
Title: Re: Playstation 3 issues with dir-655
Post by: brichter45 on January 24, 2010, 08:59:39 AM
I have securespot disabled and still have the issue.
Title: Re: Playstation 3 issues with dir-655
Post by: brichter45 on January 24, 2010, 09:02:10 AM
Must have something to do with uTorrent. I had it running yesterday when it kept disconnecting the router. The router log had a bunch of block tcp requests and udp requests. I wonder if it gets overloaded and just reboots.
Title: Re: Playstation 3 issues with dir-655
Post by: Cobra on January 24, 2010, 09:24:29 AM
How many connections are you allowing in ĩTorrent?

If too many then you are saturating the connection.

I have a 16/2 connection but ĩTorrent is set for max connected 100.
Title: Re: Playstation 3 issues with dir-655
Post by: brichter45 on January 24, 2010, 09:30:25 AM
I'll try to lower it down and see what happens.  I also have a 16/2
Title: Re: Playstation 3 issues with dir-655
Post by: Cobra on January 24, 2010, 09:46:49 AM
Global max 600...max connected 100 is what I have.
Title: Re: Playstation 3 issues with dir-655
Post by: brichter45 on January 24, 2010, 09:53:47 AM
I have it set the same currently I'll see what happens. Thanks Cobra.
Title: Re: Playstation 3 issues with dir-655
Post by: brichter45 on January 24, 2010, 11:56:50 AM
Well i changed it to 400 global and 100 max and only 1 upload slot and i haven't had a reconnect since. Must of been an overload issue.
Title: Re: Playstation 3 issues with dir-655
Post by: lotacus on January 25, 2010, 10:07:12 AM
The router was said to be able to handle 400 connections i think. You want to bring global and max down on every torrent client you have in the house. Or get a NAS device that supports torrents. I know the old dlink ones (cheaper ones) had this, but most likely removed it in f/w updates.

What's great about that is you can block all torrents from the network except for your NAS, and force everyone to use that one client.
Title: Re: Playstation 3 issues with dir-655
Post by: brichter45 on January 25, 2010, 11:31:28 AM
Thanks for the input. I currently have it running only on my NAS, I have to stop it in order to do any online gaming. Kind of a pain but at least it's not reconnecting every 5 minutes now.
Title: Re: Playstation 3 issues with dir-655
Post by: lotacus on January 26, 2010, 12:43:07 AM
There are some solutions out there using better QoS Algorithms ie: CBQ and HFSC, though that means some of your time configuring, testing then deploying. But the few hours doing that may pay off from always having to log into your NAS device and stop the download and then start it afterwards.

All up to you. it's a trade off.
Title: Re: Playstation 3 issues with dir-655
Post by: bespinach on February 08, 2011, 08:48:50 AM
Itīs easy to fix, just put your ISP's IP (public or private depends of your ISP) , ISP Gateway AND Submask(255.255.255.0) into the Static IP configuration from your DIR-655 and just that, your NAT itīs open.

Before you do that, check if your ADSL or Modem has the option IP Passthrough enable with you routerīs name.

This is the config of my router DIR-655:

IP: 201.200.234.145 (default ADSL IP Public)
Gateway: 201.200.234.144
Submask: 255.255.255.0
DNS1: 192.168.1.1 (ADSL IP)
DNS2: 0.0.0.0

Regards!