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The Graveyard - Products No Longer Supported => D-Link Storage => DNS-343 => Topic started by: rjensen on December 04, 2009, 09:59:42 PM
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Firmware Version 1.03 provides the functionality to conduct "Remote NAS to NAS backup".
I would like to backup my DNS-343 onto a Buffalo LinkStation Pro Duo.
Well, I have tried to configure this functionality, both from the DNS-343 or from the LinkStation, and haven't even gotten to first base.
Any suggestions would be GREATLY appreciated?
Thanks,
Roy Jensen
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You must use RSYNC. If your buffalo does not have RSYNC then it is not possible.
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Thanks. The Linkstation can apparently be moded to include rsync. Working on this. (Maybe the mod will actually turn off the HD when they are not in use! but that's another story.) Both do function as ftp servers. Is there a way to use ftp -- the backups will always be manually started.
Actually -- admitting my ignorance -- I have NO IDEA how to actually configure the DNS-343. Like, what commands to enter on the config page. (Well, I can figure out the ones that let me browse to a folder on the local NAS.)
Assistance would be greatly appreciated!
(http://www.consol.ca/Remote-source.jpg)
(http://www.consol.ca/Remote-destination.jpg)
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Hello,
I am also interested in the answer to this question. I am having trouble with configuration - the settings pages are not clear (source vs destination is confusing on these pages).
In my case, I have two DNS-343s, and I would like to back one up to the other.
Thank you to anyone who can help!
Alain
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The source is the unit you are backing up and the destination is the unit being used for backup storage.
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The source is the unit you are backing up and the destination is the unit being used for backup storage.
With respect, pretend we are completely ignorant and tell us what to enter in every box.
Pretend I have two NAS's:
- one at 192.168.55.200 called 'server' with Volume_1 and numerous subfolders
- one at 192.168.55.250 called 'serverbackup' with Volume_1
I want to backup everything on server to serverbackup.
Thanks,
Roy Jensen
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I spent over an hour on the phone with tech support sharing my PC screen with them and let them configure the remote back up. They couldn't do it!!! They escalated me to a higher level of support - same results. At the end guy told me that they have to revise the firmware for this section to get it working. He was being confused as well what to put in every box.
Little hint. If you need to remotely backup to DNS-343, you can do that by login into "Applications" instead of "Configuration" and setup "scheduling" with your other server. It worked fine for me from the first try, but apparently, this is not what i need. I need a reverse operation to backup from DNS-343
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With respect, pretend we are completely ignorant and tell us what to enter in every box.
Pretend I have two NAS's:
- one at 192.168.55.200 called 'server' with Volume_1 and numerous subfolders
- one at 192.168.55.250 called 'serverbackup' with Volume_1
I want to backup everything on server to serverbackup.
Thanks,
Roy Jensen
Step 1: On your Server DNS-343 (192.168.55.200), Login to the Web UI. Go to Advanced > Remote Backup.
Step 2: Select Source, type in a password. Click Apply.
Step 3: Under Source Share Path, Type in a name for your backup location. This can be anything, so for this example lets just use, "Backup".
Step 4. Click the browse button under Source Share Path, locate the directory you wish to backup. If it is the entire volume select Volume_1 and click OK. Click APPLY
Step 5: Click the START REMOTE SERVER button to turn on RSYNC Sharing.. Verify that your share paths are listed at the bottom.
Step 6: Now on your Server Backup Unit (192.168.55.250), login to the Web UI.
Step 7: Select Destination, enter 192.168.55.200 in the Source IP field.
Step 8: Enter the password you typed in on your Soure boxe earlier.
Step 9: Click the Browse box next to the Save to path and select a directory that you would like to save your Backups to.
Step 10: If you do not want to overwrite existing files, make sure to click the Keep existing files checkbox.
Step 11: Click Apply.
Step 12: Once you have clicked apply, your Rsync Client (192.168.55.250) should connect to your Source Server (192.168.55.200), if it has not connected please hit the refresh button on your browser.
Step 13: At the bottom will be a Destination List, put a checkbox next to the Folders you wish to backup. These should be the same folders/labels as you created on your Source box (192.168.55.200) earlier.
Step 14: Once you have placed a checkbox in the folder list, Click the backup button.
Your client backup box should now be downloading from your source server box.
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Hopefully my wall of text doesn't burn any retnas :).
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What is the difference/benefit of using the remote backup vs. scheduled downloads?
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Encrypted data. Ability to do it remotely over the internet.
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Thank you for the help - thanks to this thread, I have been able to set up NAS to NAS backup.
During the backup, one of the drives usually freezes (but that's another thread!).
But when it is successful, I'm seeing strange behaviour.
Example: I have set a directory as one of the sources for backup. It contains about 25 large movie files (15-30 GB each). The weird thing is that it only backs up the first file and says "Remote Backup Complete". Never does the other files. This is a directory with no further directory structure.
Other incomplete backups occur (but reporting success) with more complicated subdirectory structures.
Anyone seeing this? Any advice?
Thanks
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Thank you for the help - thanks to this thread, I have been able to set up NAS to NAS backup.
During the backup, one of the drives usually freezes (but that's another thread!).
But when it is successful, I'm seeing strange behaviour.
Example: I have set a directory as one of the sources for backup. It contains about 25 large movie files (15-30 GB each). The weird thing is that it only backs up the first file and says "Remote Backup Complete". Never does the other files. This is a directory with no further directory structure.
Other incomplete backups occur (but reporting success) with more complicated subdirectory structures.
Anyone seeing this? Any advice?
Thanks
I have seen this scenario before but I believe I could only produce it with extremely heavy loads on one of the networks. Basically the connection between boxes gets severed. As soon as I get a chance I will double check the issue. Also can you confirm if you are running both boxes locally or is one remote?
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They are side by side on the same subnet with fixed IP addresses plugged into the same gigabit switch.
Thanks for looking into this.
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both NAS must be DNS 343 ? I have a DNS 323 and one DNS 343 , thinking of backup my data from DNS 343 to DNS 323 , what should I do ? I had try using the method in this thread but fail. please advice
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both NAS must be DNS 343 ? I have a DNS 323 and one DNS 343 , thinking of backup my data from DNS 343 to DNS 323 , what should I do ? I had try using the method in this thread but fail. please advice
From my understanding, both NAS must have RSYNC, else it won't work (can someone confirm this?). There's no specific dependency requiring two DNS-343 to use remote backup.
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Yes Both NAS's must support RSYNC currently that is just the DNS-343.
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Hi,
I have a DNS-343 at my home and another DNS-343 at my office a few blocks away from my home. I'd like to have the unit at my home automatically backup the unit at my office everyday. Both units have four 1.5TB drives configured to Raid 5.
My current thinking is that I should enable the ftp server option on the unit at my office and then set the "scheduled downloads" on my unit at home to download all the files from the unit at my office everyday.
Would this method take advantage of rsync? Clearly, copying around 4TB of data everyday would be too much, which is why I'm hoping that rysnc would be utilized.
Is there another way that I should go about automating the backup from my office unit to my home unit?
Thanks,
Michael
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Hi unthinkableimages,
You may want to look into a Router-based solution that creates a Site-to-Site VPN tunnel between your home and office. While your home and office will be in different subnets, the Site-to-Site VPN tunnel will be able to route seamlessly packets between the two networks; hence making it possible to rsync as if the two DNS's were right next to each other.
Note that for your first backup, you should definitely have both DNS's on the same network switch because even at 1 Gbit, moving 4TB will take many hours. Then you can move the one of the DNS's back to its intended location, update the rsync ip addresses to point to the remote network, and you should be all set.
Good luck!
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Hmmm...I started this thread a long time ago...
...I'm glad it is the first link that pops up when I search for information on this issue...
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...I'm livid with the subsequent discussion...
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I was disappointed when I discovered that my DNS-343 would not RSYNC backup to a Buffalo NAS.
I naively assumed that a D-Link DNS-343 would backup to a D-Link DNS-323. But NO! D-Link in their infinitely inconsiderate nature have not included RSYNC in the DNS-323 firmware. Is is incompetence or inconsideration to frustrate the end user into ftp-based backups?
When will D-Link include RSYNC standard with their firmware?
Roy Jensen
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What is the difference/benefit of using the remote backup vs. scheduled downloads?
Encrypted data. Ability to do it remotely over the internet.
What do you mean the ability to do it remotely over the internet, doesn't the scheduled download feature enabled one to connect to a remote ftp server over the internet to backup a file on a remote server to ones local NAS?
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I also have 1x DNS-343 and 2x DNS-323, wanting to backup my DNS-343 to both my DNS-323.
I thought it would have been an easy option, I guess I was wrong.....
Pretty strange that both D-Link products are not compatible to do just that?!?!
Any plan to do the obvious and make this possible?
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I'm bumping up this thread because I seem to be having the same problems as others here and it's one of the most popular results in a Google search.
My situation is, I have a DNS-323 (on the West Coast) and my Dad has a DNS-343 (on the East Coast). We want to sync/mirror our boxes each way, but (1) it needs to be secure across the Internet, (2) since we have hundreds of GBs of data it needs to be an incremental backup, not a full backup, and (3) it would be great if it could be automated/scheduled like once a week.
We all know that the 323 does not have Remote Backup functionality which is disappointing since the 343, 320, and 325 all do. Hopefully they're working on a new firmware to include this, or is this device at end of life??
Since new firmware isn't likely coming, now I'm thinking I should just replace my 323 with a 343 and then set up Remote Backup on each device to sync (manually, unfortunately, even though the 320 and 325 can be scheduled). What I want to know is, can the 343 do a Remote Backup to a remote NAS across the Internet, or does it only work locally (i.e., 192.168.x.x)? I called tech support and they said it only works locally, but this thread makes me think they were wrong.
Lastly, does anyone have any other recommendations to accomplish the same goal? VPN switches (like the NETGEAR FVS318) and just run folder sync software on an always-running computer?
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My situation is, I have a DNS-323 (on the West Coast) and my Dad has a DNS-343 (on the East Coast). We want to sync/mirror our boxes each way, but (1) it needs to be secure across the Internet, (2) since we have hundreds of GBs of data it needs to be an incremental backup, not a full backup, and (3) it would be great if it could be automated/scheduled like once a week.
We all know that the 323 does not have Remote Backup functionality which is disappointing since the 343, 320, and 325 all do. Hopefully they're working on a new firmware to include this, or is this device at end of life??
Since new firmware isn't likely coming, now I'm thinking I should just replace my 323 with a 343 and then set up Remote Backup on each device to sync (manually, unfortunately, even though the 320 and 325 can be scheduled). What I want to know is, can the 343 do a Remote Backup to a remote NAS across the Internet, or does it only work locally (i.e., 192.168.x.x)? I called tech support and they said it only works locally, but this thread makes me think they were wrong.
I haven't personally used RSYNC over the Internet, but would think that from this thread and the "port forwarding" note in the web interface RSYNC page, that the unit was designed for that purpose.
Another option is to wait for the DNS-345, the DNS-343 successor: http://forums.dlink.com/index.php?topic=41242.0 (http://forums.dlink.com/index.php?topic=41242.0)
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Another option is to wait for the DNS-345, the DNS-343 successor: http://forums.dlink.com/index.php?topic=41242.0 (http://forums.dlink.com/index.php?topic=41242.0)
Thanks. After seeing that the 320, 325, and upcoming 345 all have _scheduled_ and incremental Remote Backup out-of-the-box, I may just replace both the 323 and 343. It's unfortunate that the older hardware isn't being updated for this feature, but I understand dlink wants to sell more units and updating existing devices doesn't accomplish that.
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Whatever solution you end up using, if you have terabytes of data I recommend making the first backup of your data at one location and then ship the HDDs (and DNS in original box) to avoid that first full copy.