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The Graveyard - Products No Longer Supported => Routers / COVR => DIR-600 => Topic started by: PiranhaKAU on March 23, 2013, 12:21:22 AM
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Hi.
I have been using a D-Link DIR-600 for a couple of years now. And I haven't had any problems until maybe a couple of months ago. It all started with my internet just kind of dying (mostly in the eavnings) and not working until i rebooted the router. So I call my internet provider and they tell me to update firmware and to plug the internet straight into my computer instead to rule out everything at their end.
After some time I manage to update firmware. Problem with internet sill remain but is not as frequent. I left it like that for a couple of weeks, but earlier this week i checked my connection speed and it says i have only 50mb/s after the firmware update. Since i had the weekend off I plugged the internet straight into my computer and get my full internet speed at about 90mb/s. After plugging in the router again I only get around 50 again.
Now I have checked the firmware again and I found a newer version 2.15b i think it was. Updated to that one and problem with speed still remain.
Any help would be appreciated.
- PiranhaKAU
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Link>Welcome! (http://forums.dlink.com/index.php?topic=41537.0)
What region are you located?
Are you wired or wireless connected to the router?
Has a Factory Reset been performed? Was a factory reset before and after sending the FW file then setup from scratch?
What ISP Service do you have? Cable or DSL?
What ISP Modem Mfr. and model # do you have?
If this modem has a built in router, it's best to bridge the modem. Having 2 routers on the same line can cause connection problems.
Double NAT (http://www.practicallynetworked.com/networking/fixing_double_nat.htm)
To tell if the modem is bridged or not, look at the routers web page, Status/Device Info/Wan Section, if there is a 192.168.0.# address in the WAN IP address field, then the modem is not bridged.
If the modem can't be bridged then see if the modem has a DMZ option and input the IP address the router gets from the modem and put that into the modems DMZ.
Check ISP MTU requirements, Cable is usually 1500, DSL is around 1492 down to 1472. Call the ISP and ask. Link>Checking MTU Values (http://forums.dlink.com/index.php?topic=53008.0)
Some things to try: - Log into the routers web page at 192.168.0.1. Use IE, Opera or FF to manage the router.
Turn off ALL QoS (http://vonage.nmhoy.net/qos.html) or Disable Traffic Shaping (DIR only) GameFuel (DGL only and if ON.) options. Advanced/QoS or Gamefuel.
Turn off Advanced DNS Services if you have this option under Setup/Internet/Manual or under Setup/PARENTAL CONTROL/Set to>None: Static IP or Obtain Automatically From ISP.
Enable Use Unicasting (compatibility for some ISP DHCP Servers) under Setup/Internet/Manual.
Turn on DNS Relay under Setup/Networking.
Setup DHCP reserved IP addresses for all devices ON the router. Setup/Networking. This ensures each devices gets its own IP address when turned on and connected, eliminates IP address conflicts and helps in troubleshooting.
Ensure devices are set to auto obtain an IP address.
If IPv6 is an option on the router, select Local Connection Only or Disable IPv6 options under Setup/IPv6.
Set Firewall settings to Endpoint Independent for TCP and UDP under Advanced/Firewall.
Enable uPnP and Multi-cast Streaming under Advanced/Networking. Disable uPnP for testing Port Forwarding rules.
Turn off WISH, and WPS under Advanced.
WAN Port Speed set to Auto or specific speed? Some newer ISP modems support 1000Mb so manually setting to Gb speeds can be supported by the router. Advanced/Advanced Networking/WAN Port Speed
Set current Time Zone, Date and Time. Use an NTP server feature. Tools/Time.
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Hi.
EU/SWE. Fiber from a wall socket.
I did try disabling wireless and testing speed. Same result. I will try reset.
Thx for the help.
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Try a test and disable QoS.
Disable any PC security programs while speed testing as well.
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I am having the same issue as this.
from also have Fiber.
Tried many things.
Product Page : DIR-600
Hardware Version : Bx
Firmware Version : 2.15
I only get 50mbit out of 100mbit when i connect.
I have set the cable to 100mbit/duplex on my NIC to confirm that wasn't the issue.
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Hi.
EU/SWE. Fiber from a wall socket.
I did try disabling wireless and testing speed. Same result. I will try reset.
Thx for the help.
I assume you have a ONT? What kind and how is it configured? Do you need PPPoE or does it use DHCP? Does it have NAT? etc.
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The original guy is probably not here anymore, check the date;P
What is ONT btw?
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The original guy is probably not here anymore, check the date;P
What is ONT btw?
Ahh, thanks for heads up. I was kind of on a posting binge so didn't notice ;D
ONT is Optical Network Terminal. Basically a fiber modem. Some are transparent, other have router functions which can conflict performance wise with routers connected to it. Typical dual NAT scenario.
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Oh, well i ahve no idea what i have.
I have an apartment and just plug it in the wall and get 100/100 ;P
Can't speak for what the "Main router" is etc.
What should i do to troubleshoot, as i assume i should be able to get 100mbit via this router?
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Oh, well i ahve no idea what i have.
I have an apartment and just plug it in the wall and get 100/100 ;P
Can't speak for what the "Main router" is etc.
What should i do to troubleshoot, as i assume i should be able to get 100mbit via this router?
First step is finding out what your connecting to. Doesn't the ISP have any support info?
Also, can you explain what you tried when you tried "many things"? How is the router configured? DHCP? PPPoE? Other? What IP do you get when connecting direct to the wall?
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Not real
First step is finding out what your connecting to. Doesn't the ISP have any support info?
Also, can you explain what you tried when you tried "many things"? How is the router configured? DHCP? PPPoE? Other? What IP do you get when connecting direct to the wall?
Not really, don't think so at least.
As for many things i i just mean messing with random settings, new firmware etc.
Haven't done anything in those you are talking about.
Though i just made the router to an Access Point, and now i get real speed.
Problem is i can't even reach the router now, how do i login to it?
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Though i just made the router to an Access Point, and now i get real speed.
Problem is i can't even reach the router now, how do i login to it?
If the router works better as a AP, that means what ever is providing internet to the ethernet jack is a router. If THAT router (what ever it is) has the same access IP (192.168.0.1) then you need to change it on the DIR-600. To do so disconnect it from the wall, reboot it, and then when wired to DIR-600, bring up the 192.168.0.1 IP. Once logged into the DIR-600 the Setup > Network Settings > Router IP Address > change to something else, IE 192.168.2.1 and then save the settings and reconnect to the wall.
Also, keep in mind that the DIR-600 is a bit long in the tooth, and was more a value brand even when brand new. Wired as a AP, can probably handle 90-95Mbps, but wireless is going to be less. Only a single antenna Wifi N draft 150Mbps. My guess is wireless speeds will be 30-40Mbps.
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Though i just made the router to an Access Point, and now i get real speed.
Problem is i can't even reach the router now, how do i login to it?
If the router works better as a AP, that means what ever is providing internet to the ethernet jack is a router. If THAT router (what ever it is) has the same access IP (192.168.0.1) then you need to change it on the DIR-600. To do so disconnect it from the wall, reboot it, and then when wired to DIR-600, bring up the 192.168.0.1 IP. Once logged into the DIR-600 the Setup > Network Settings > Router IP Address > change to something else, IE 192.168.2.1 and then save the settings and reconnect to the wall.
Also, keep in mind that the DIR-600 is a bit long in the tooth, and was more a value brand even when brand new. Wired as a AP, can probably handle 90-95Mbps, but wireless is going to be less. Only a single antenna Wifi N draft 150Mbps. My guess is wireless speeds will be 30-40Mbps.
I would like to access the router without rebooting it, but i can't figure out how to access it when it's in AP Mode.
If i can i will then change the other settings and see how it works out.
As for the bandwidth, i think that speed is probably fine, that's what i about get when i connect directly.
Wireless speed is less of an issue, as long as it's 10mbps+ i am happy on that part.
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Is there no way to login to a router that's been converter to an AP without reseting;(?
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Is there no way to login to a router that's been converter to an AP without reseting;(?
I am not sure. You should just be able to disconnect it from the wall, which will stop the IP conflict with your ONT, and be able to access it normally. Can you ping the 192.168.0.1 IP? The internal webserver should still be up even if acting as a AP. At-least I would think. Can't find confirmation. Anyone else have one to confirm?
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I can't ping to 192.168.0.1.
I have tried connecting to that adress when and when not having the router connected to the internet.
Also tried changing my IP manually to 192.168.0.2 or something as i saw guides saying stuff like that.
It's weird, must be doing something wrong.
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Possibly not. The router may disable the gateway and UI when in AP mode. I have seen similar behavior with media adapters. You may want to wait for confirmation before banging your head against the problem too much.
With that said, when you tried the static IP trick, did you also set you gateway and other IP info?
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Tried:
192.168.0.x
255.255.0.0 (or whatever it is).
192.168.0.1
DNS:
192.168.0.1
That's what i pretty much tried.
Then setting static to 192.168.0.50 cause that seemed to be the standard for some routers, but well no avail.
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Did you set up the DIR-600 for AP mode using the following?
Turning a router into an AP. (http://forums.dlink.com/index.php?topic=40856.0)
If not, give this a try and set a new IP address for the 600 while in AP mode. Use the new IP address to access the 600.
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Thanks for the PM:)
I just turned the router into an AP by clicking on the "Turn inte AP" checkmark, or whatever it was called.
Then i clicked save and had to wait 80 seconds.
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The 600 when connected on this LAN port should get a IP address from the main host router or use 192.168.0.50. Check the manual on these specifics.
Check the Status section of the 600 to see what it's getting from the main host router. Use that IP address to connect to the 600s web page.
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I am currently connected to the LAN port and the 600 is connected to the internet.
If i try to connect to: 192.168.0.50 in my web browser it doesn't lead me anywhere sadly;(
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Then it's getting a dynamic IP address from the main host router and you'd have to have a look at the man host routers connected client tab to see what it's giving the 600. Have an iPhone by chance? There's an app call Net Anlyzer. Can scan ur network and connected devices to reveal there IP and Mac addresses. Very handy.
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Oh.
Well i have an iphone, but thing is my wireless was disabled when i activated the AP;(
Can't that be done from my PC though?
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wired up a Pc to the 600 and try tracert in a command line to some common site like yahoo.com or dogpile.com
you might see the AP IP address there.
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Just did, tried connecting in the webb browser to all the IPs popping up to no avail.
Or do i have to make any changes to my NIC settings?
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What IPs did you see?
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My ISP IPs. Doing some jumps before reaching the destination.
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I'd get a network sniffer going of some form and see if you can pull up the 600s IP address.
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Did that, not sure what to do though.
Tried connecting to some of the IPs which seemed to be from the ISP or similar with no luck though.
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Ya, running out of ideas. ::)
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Well i am guessing turning on AP randomly wasn't a good idea.
Maybe one has to setup the IP before hand or else you won't be able to connect to it;S
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Can try giving the 600 a new Ip address on the LAN side and see.
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Thing is that i rather not reset the settings, else i would have tried out that.
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You may need to to gain an IP address, unless you can find it by other means.
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What do you mean "gain an IP Address"?
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Find the IP address of the 600 so you can access it's web page.
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Oh;P
But it's weird, shouldn't i be able to find it by disconnecting from the internet?
That way the only possible IP i can get should be from the Router (though i don't, cause no DHCP or something i guess?).
And it feels weird cause the IP should get picked up first in a tracert, but the IPs there can't be connected to.
It's like the router is completely bypassed, i could just as well plug it in the wall, could that be it?
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The 600 maybe masking the IP address its getting from the main host router however the router is picking it up. If you had access to the main host routers client table list, you'd see it there. D-Link APs and bridges have a default .50 address for setting up the device, however when they are live and active on a router, then this address gets changed to a different DHCP Dynamic IP address. I don't know why so don't ask. All that needs to be done would be to look at the routers client table to see the new address. If you had access to the main host router.
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Ah i see, but shouldn't i be able to use the .50 address when it's not connected to the internet then?
Sadly geting access to the main router is out of the question;(
Will do some more testing with tracert and netsniffing.
But i am to be able to access the router without changing my NIC ip right?
I should just be able to connect to the IP via a browser if i got the correct one?
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If the 600 is set up for default address that way. I don't have this model so I can't say for sure. You'll have to give it a try.
If you test this, set a static IP address on the PC to 192.168.0.49 and 255.255.255.0 snm and test this out.
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If i look at a screenshot i had before i set up the AP it just shows the normal "192.168.0.1" in the Status - Device Info.
Then the internet IP/DNS.
Subnet Mask is weird though, 255.255.255.192, but i guess that's some standard.
Tried what you said, tried connecting to 192.168.0.1/50 with that and other IPs i tried without success.
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You'll need to factiry reset the 600 and go back to default settings and try that way.
You might try setting the AP mode again and don't connect the 600 to the router, just connect the PC to the 600s lan port while you have a static IP address on the PC and see if you can get to the .1 address or if the .50 works, Might see if tracert reveals anything here while in this configuraton.
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Guess i have to do that, damn should have made a backup of my settings if i knew this would happen -_-.
Well my own fault for pressing buttons.
Will try that stuff later and hope for the best and report back.
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Good Luck.
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Okay i have reseted it.
I tried changing the routers IP to: 192.168.2.1 and then turning it into an AP.
But same luck there, had to reset it after that to be able to access it.
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Any chance you can have the ISP look at there router table to see what IP address the 600 is getting? That's about the only other way I can think of. I'm out of ideas.
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Doubt it.
Weird.
But then, are there any options to still get out my full speed?
As i am getting Half, or is Access Point the only way?
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If you use the 600 in router mode, be sure to disable any Traffic Shaping or QoS. If in AP mode, then all features accept for wireless should be disabled, DHCP, QoS, uPnP, IPv6 if supported and any and all filters.
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QoS is disabled.
You were talking about the double NAT issue before, anything to do about that?
EDIT:
Oh wait that's what Access point was all about.
Though i noticed that the issue there is that as DHCP is disabled, only 1 PC can get internet, at least that's what it seems like.
And Wireless works, though it's worthless if only one can be connected at the same time.
I could allow not to be able to access the router if everything was working otherwise.
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Ya, you'll need to run the 600 in router mode so you can get additional devices online.
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So there's no way to have router mode and full speed?
Shouldn't this be a big issue, cause where i live this kind of connection type is quite usual.
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IF Traffic Shaping and QoS is disabled speeds should be good however be aware that ISP speeds over 100mb may not be achievable since the 600 only supports 100mb connection rates on the WAN and LAN ports. To get better speeds you'll need to swap out the 600 and get into a DIR series router that has 1000Mb support on the WAN and LAN ports.
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It is.
And yeah i know, but in AP or Switch mode it works fine, sure i maybe lose a few mbit, but currently i lose half. It's at 50mbps instead of 90+:(
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I don't have any more ideas beyond this.
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Well don't blame you;(
Is it worth trying to flash OpenWRT?
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Definitely. Give it a go. You'll need to refer to there support sites and forums for help with that. Thought you may still hit a speed boundary at 100Mb :-\
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Will do that, as far as i can read it seems fine to flash like normally.
But the Emergency Failsafe, if i screw up and brick the device, is that when you use that mode?
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Well flashed and it didn't help;P
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Emergency Recovery Mode (http://forums.dlink.com/index.php?topic=44909.msg163599#msg163599)
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Does the DIR-600 have voltage regulation?
Cause i noticed that the power supply i use is 12v 2.0a,
while DIR-600 says 5v 1.2a.
I totally forgot about that, but it hasn't broken or anything so is it safe?
I am crap when it comes to electricity.
But searching for it says it should break if there isn't any regulation somewhere.
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I believe the 600 and 601s use the 5v 1.2a power supply. I would check the user manual for specs to be sure. If your using the 12v 2A power adapter then you could be using the wrong adapter and damaging the router.
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yes it does use that power supply, like i mentioned:)
But i wonder why it works fine with 12 2a, used it for a while.
Therefore i wondered if it had a voltage regulation that changed it to 5v or something.
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The 600 and 601 series are small end routers and don't need alot of wall power so I presume the lower power adapter is sufficient.
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but isn't the power adapter over sufficient, it gives more power than it needs, that's what worries me if it doesn't regulate the voltage:o
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Why getting the one specified would be recommended.
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Why getting the one specified would be recommended.
Indeed, i just wanted to know if it could regulate the power so it wasn't needed.
But i guess no one knows about those specifications.
Well such adapters i think cost like a new router here, so it's not that economical -_-.
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You might be able to get one from D-Link. Phone them and ask...Sometimes you can find cheep adpaters on amazon and fleabay.
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Well i live in Europe so gonna cost a lot either way.
Ebay is not really worth it as it's risky with such electronics if it's not an original.
But well, will probably just use the 12v 2.0a and hope it doesn't break, if it has been able to withstand it for this long i doubt it will just stop now:P
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I've bought replacement adapters from ebay and amazon before and they are either OEM or have the same spec.
Good Luck.
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Amazon i can kinda get, but it's not cheap in Europe sadly, the problem is always shipping here, shipping adds a lot to the price which sucks xD.
Thanks:)!
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Understand. You might contact D-link support and ask to see if they might be able to help you out.
Good Luck.