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The Graveyard - Products No Longer Supported => DNS-323 => D-Link Storage => Beta code! => Topic started by: D-Link Multimedia on February 11, 2010, 03:03:10 PM
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As promised 1.09 code and addon is now available on our ftp site. With the latest code you can configure and setup your DNS-323 to backup your important data to the cloud directly without the need of a dedicated PC.
Head on over to https://dlink.ctera.com/ (https://dlink.ctera.com/) and signup for your free 30 day trial.
Any feedback on the service should be placed here in this thread and we look forward to hearing back from you.
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Does this beta include the changes that were in the UK release of 1.08b9 for fan control? Are these the same firmware, or are you running different code bases?
Are there any projected prices for the on-line backup service?
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1.09 contains all code up to 1.08b09.
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Do you have any idea of projected prices for the on-line backup?
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I do not have that information right now as this is still in its beta stage. When we prepare to launch final pricing will be set. For now we would like to see what type of interest users have or comments on integrating it into our device.
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OK. I guess I'll wait and see what happens. I don't want to get interested in a service like this and then find out it's prohibitively expensive. :)
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so obviously D-Link isn't interested in fixing the existing issues like incremental backups from many firmwares ago. They are just interested in trying to create new features, which is great if all the old features were working 100%, and as gunrunner mentioned don't list the prices, what is that all about?????
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Does this mean that there will not be a 1.08 "final" version released?
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Yes there will be a 1.08 final released. It is too late today for our web dev team to post it and we do not post on fridays however it is ready to go and will be live monday.
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So, as I read it, 1.09b1 is really the 1.08 final with the on-line backup added?
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Oh, I REALLY like this new functionality
Some questions though,
1) Any reason I should not use this FW as I am located in EU and CTeras links direct you to the DLINK-North America site with their "do not use outside of North America" warnings
2) If I get involved in the beta of 1.09 and the beta continues for longer than 30 days, what happens? (i.e the ctera offer is for 30 days free)
3) Pricing would indeed be good to know as soon as possible
4) Hmm... this porbably has more to do with Ctera than Dlink: Any regional differences where the cloud servers are located, i.e are all the servers in north america or is there an EU option?
Very interesting indeed... will have to check this out during the weekend.
- Fin_Sweeper
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As promised 1.09 code and addon is now available on our ftp site. With the latest code you can configure and setup your DNS-323 to backup your important data to the cloud directly without the need of a dedicated PC.
Head on over to https://dlink.ctera.com/ (https://dlink.ctera.com/) and signup for your free 30 day trial.
Any feedback on the service should be placed here in this thread and we look forward to hearing back from you.
It would be great if the online backup could be more than 10 GB's. That is simply not enough for me....
Any plans for more space?
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It would be great if the online backup could be more than 10 GB's. That is simply not enough for me....
Hmm, where do you get that 10GB from? The only reference to storage size I could find was "Allowed data types: Unlimited file size and file type" on the dlink.ctera.com "Features" page (https://dlink.ctera.com/ServicesPortal/DLINK/specifications.html). Mind you, I have not signed up for the free trial yet...
It would indeed be unfortunate if the 10Gb limit stands, as that is not sufficient for my needs either.
The amount of storage offered by CTERA at different price points will be interesting to see when this information comes available. As a comparison I have my ISP, which offers me 50Gb for 5€/month (first 6 months free) with access via ftp.
- Fin_Sweeper
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Once you register for the trial, you will see the 10 GB limit... Hopefully, there are other options. :)
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I'll wait until real information becomes available. :)
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Information from ctera web site: http://www.ctera.com/home/faq.html
CTERA online backup is priced as follows:
* 10GB for $9.95/month
* 25GB for $19.95/month
* 50GB for $29.95/month
* 100GB for $49.95/month
* 200GB for $99.95/month
If Dlink stick to these prices it will be out of my price range.
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YIKES! Enough said! :o :o
www.mozy.com gives you unlimited storage for $54.45/year, I've been using their free (2gig max) service for some time to backup just my important documents.
Those prices are absurd! ::)
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There are no prices set for this service. Do not go by Ctera's main site for pricing. Regarding the 10GB limit, remember this is a beta right now.
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I can only hope that the prices are nowhere near those, because they're prohibitive for most folks!
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Those are business solution prices listed and are not the same price set for the DNS-323. Also those of you who are already using the service may have noticed a 'slight' increase in the amount of storage you have.
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That's encouraging to hear, I'll still wait for the official pricing. :)
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Those are business solution prices listed and are not the same price set for the DNS-323. Also those of you who are already using the service may have noticed a 'slight' increase in the amount of storage you have.
Still only 10 GB's for me... :(
EDIT: Showing 50 GB's now!!!
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Really? I will have it looked into it should be bumped to 50GB now.
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Mine is showing 50GB right now.
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Sure, but you guys run on the inside track! ;D
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Nice feature. I'm surprised that Dlink has put the effort in to creating this facility, but haven't added a basic facility to dump the data on the NAS to a hard disk connected directly to its USB port. I'm sure the later is easier to impliment than the first. I even managed to knock something up with a few shell commands in a fun_plug script...
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They're going to make money from the on-line backup scheme. ;)
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Before installing the new firmware, temperature was around 96 F. Right after installing the firmware, temperature reading was around 106 F Huh That was only a matter of 5 min
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Must take a lot of processor power to install firmware. :D
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As promised 1.09 code and addon is now available on our ftp site. With the latest code you can configure and setup your DNS-323 to backup your important data to the cloud directly without the need of a dedicated PC.
Head on over to https://dlink.ctera.com/ (https://dlink.ctera.com/) and signup for your free 30 day trial.
Any feedback on the service should be placed here in this thread and we look forward to hearing back from you.
As mentioned here on your post that the backup is done to the cloud, what if I already have an existing account with another cloud like ubuntuone and dropbox, will I be able to use them on this firmware?
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My guess would be that it's going to be coded specifically for Ctera, I really doubt it'll support other services. I'd be amazed if they have identical interface requirements.
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DLink has to be the funniest company I have ever dealt with. You make a product that holds 2 x 2 tb drives in it and then you add functionality to back it up online with maximums of 50 gigs. It's really nice to see movement on the beta and this thread was really good for the chuckle :D Thanks guys!!!
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Well, the backup is new, and I suspect when they establish pricing you'll be able to backup as much as you like as long as your pockets are deep enough. ;)
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DLink has to be the funniest company I have ever dealt with. You make a product that holds 2 x 2 tb drives in it and then you add functionality to back it up online with maximums of 50 gigs. It's really nice to see movement on the beta and this thread was really good for the chuckle :D Thanks guys!!!
You must have many decades of important documents to backup to the cloud and countless amounts of pictures!
In reality you wouldn't be backing up your movie collection to the cloud since most of those are 'replacable'.
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hey D-Link Multimedia, it wouldn't even take decades to get that, i travel quite a bit and have approx 36,000 pics which is 78 gigs, that has only taken me approx 6-7 years to get, never mind documents so the 50 gig limit in this day and age is very small ...
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I understand the limitations of the size at this point. Please keep in mind we are in beta for now and this is what we are providing for the free trial. We do value feedback prior to launch since we of course do want our users utilizing the service.
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You have to be kidding!
This is an early beta of a product and you're getting it for free! Is that really the kind of service you want to entrust your valued data to? If it is, you are seriously misguided! I'm sure when they go live, you can buy as much capacity as you like.
Perhaps you should pay for a production on-line backup if you feel so strongly about your data. Or is your criticism just reserved for stuff you're getting for free, but he welfare isn't good enough? ::)
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Yes there will be a 1.08 final released. It is too late today for our web dev team to post it and we do not post on fridays however it is ready to go and will be live monday.
So when is the 1.08 final released? Thanks!
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You have to be kidding!
This is an early beta of a product and you're getting it for free! Is that really the kind of service you want to entrust your valued data to? If it is, you are seriously misguided! I'm sure when they go live, you can buy as much capacity as you like.
Perhaps you should pay for a production on-line backup if you feel so strongly about your data. Or is your criticism just reserved for stuff you're getting for free, but he welfare isn't good enough? ::)
I don't see anything wrong with pointing out the misgivings of a system prior to it going from Beta to live oh wait isn't that what a beta is all about? If DLink sees the need (or want) for MORE space per $ then maybe they'll increase it to larger amounts.
Really gunrunnerjohn, I'm not sure why you get your panties in an uproar every time someone says something constructive to show DLink that there may be differing thoughts about what a product should or shouldn't do. I agree that 50gig is in terms of space and I really don't think that DLink needs you to tell us what we think should be better for our needs.
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As has been mentioned several times, no pricing has been established for the service. The fact that they didn't give you a few terabytes of capacity for a free trial shouldn't be that big a surprise. Also, it's pretty obvious, at least to anyone that spends more than a millisecond thinking about it, that 50gigs isn't a chiseled in stone limitation, it's just a figure they picked for the beta. I'm sure that a beta test with that capacity is a valid as one that would have multiples of that capacity, and they don't have people burying their bandwidth uploading their two terabytes of movies and other pirate media.
I'm equally sure that D-Link doesn't need my help, I was expressing my personal opinion of how absurd your criticism of the service was based on the fact that you didn't get enough free capacity.
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If the price is competitive with other services, I'm in (I was already about to jump for a similar service). By competitive I mean prices like:
- SpiderOak -> 100 USD/year per 100GB
- Humyo -> 82.24 USD/year (100GB) + 11.74/month per additional 100GB
Encryption (from the DNS-323), is obligatory and an EU server would be nice.
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You must have many decades of important documents to backup to the cloud and countless amounts of pictures!
In reality you wouldn't be backing up your movie collection to the cloud since most of those are 'replacable'.
I would most certainly want to back up my movie collection to the cloud, I'm not sure how many times your kids are born or turn 1 or 2 or 3 or 4 but mine only do once and my 'movies' are of their growth (not very 'replaceable' in my mind). I have just under 1 tb of home movies as well as 150 GB of pictures of which very few are replaceable.
Although some of your users may use your product to store junk I keep 2 specifically for backing up and then backing up the backup to be sure that I don't lose this data as well as all my company financial, customer data, and other things that I deem worthy of backing up.
As you can see 50 gig (I know, I know it's in beta) wouldn't really cut it for me. I think it is a great idea for most and if the pricing was right for higher quantities I might consider joining but I would still retain my backups locally and off-site.
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I would most certainly want to back up my movie collection to the cloud, I'm not sure how many times your kids are born or turn 1 or 2 or 3 or 4 but mine only do once and my 'movies' are of their growth (not very 'replaceable' in my mind). I have just under 1 tb of home movies as well as 150 GB of pictures of which very few are replaceable.
Although some of your users may use your product to store junk I keep 2 specifically for backing up and then backing up the backup to be sure that I don't lose this data as well as all my company financial, customer data, and other things that I deem worthy of backing up.
As you can see 50 gig (I know, I know it's in beta) wouldn't really cut it for me. I think it is a great idea for most and if the pricing was right for higher quantities I might consider joining but I would still retain my backups locally and off-site.
You are correct there are users that would utilize the web for this. My intentions by the post were strictly to non-home movies and I should have specified. Of course there are all forms of non replacable media and each user will be different. As stated we will be reviewing responses and making sure we can offer a valuable service to our DNS-323 users.
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All this talk about online backup is nice but what I have not seen is the firmware fixes. Did they just take 1.08b8 added shareport call it 1.08b9 then added online backup and call it 1.09b1 or did they fix the problems that have been reported? I would like to see a list of fixes to the firmware.
Terry
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Yes there will be a 1.08 final released. It is too late today for our web dev team to post it and we do not post on fridays however it is ready to go and will be live monday.
Has this been released yet? If you're going to give specific dates, you really should meet them...
My apologies if it's already been released and I'm just not seeing it.
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The firmware is not currently available on the www.dlink.com site in the support section, so the answer is no, it's not released yet.
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The firmware is not currently available on the www.dlink.com site in the support section, so the answer is no, it's not released yet.
You'd think they learned their lesson about giving solid release dates and not meeting them from the last firm date that was posted a couple months back.
Oh well, it is what it is.
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Apparently not. :)
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I believe I also mentioned a post below it that it was going to be Tuesday and we had some internal FTP issues yesterday. I have the web dev guy staying later tonight and posting it so it will be live tonight. I believe you can see the firmware up there on the support page now and the final release notes are being placed in the FAQ as we speak.
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Why does the EasySearch utility 4.7.0.0 point to the same binary as the 4.4.0.0 one? It also contains the old files.
I also have a question about the SharePort utility. Is it possible to use a USB hub to connect more than one device to the port? I'd like to use the print server and do backup to a USB connected drive.
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Why does the EasySearch utility 4.7.0.0 point to the same binary as the 4.4.0.0 one? It also contains the old files.
I also have a question about the SharePort utility. Is it possible to use a USB hub to connect more than one device to the port? I'd like to use the print server and do backup to a USB connected drive.
No idea why 4.7 points to the 4.4 my guess is our backup web guy struggled slightly. It is up on the ftp,
ftp://ftp.dlink.com/Multimedia/dns323/Apps/.
Yes you can use hubs connected to the device over shareport although it does play tricks on the GUI in the DNS-323, it does in fact work.
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Yes you can use hubs connected to the device over shareport although it does play tricks on the GUI in the DNS-323, it does in fact work.
Given the fact that this app is being discussed here, can I assume it is available from the beta site? Or will be soon?
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Probably a justified design choice but thought I'd report it anyway.
"Back up only between x-y" does not seem to affect manually started backups.
- Fin_Sweeper
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I just downloaded the new easy search utility and it has a C1 in the name. Does that mean that it will only work with the C1 hardware version or all hardware versions up to C1.
Terry
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All versions up to C1.
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Now after 1.08 is final I need to boldly go to the next frontier... ;D
Actually I will flash 1.09b onto my box, but before doing so I would like to ask 2 things to the community. First, are there any (visible) additional changes in this release compared to 1.08 besides the already mentioned cloud backup service?
And second point, if it isn't so, why is the binary about 750k *smaller* compared to the 1.08 final?? Sounds to me some programs and/or functions have been dropped or so? Or just an artifact because of better compression?
Thanks for any info!
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I think the DNS-323 is a very nice product because of its openess to other platforms. I would expect that the backup functionality to the cloud would be open as well and not limited to a proprietary DLink service.
I'm a very happy humyo customer. Humyo offers great value for a great price. I have to do automatic backups now via a seperate PC. It would be great if I could connect my DNS-323 directly to Humyo. This should be possible since Humyo supports WebDav.
Anton
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What REAL/ACTUAL features or fixes are in this beta??
Or is it ONLY this over-priced cloud backup thing??
I can recommend Jungle Disk -- it will back up from a NAS to Amazon S3, though it will be slow...
Backing up from a PC will often be faster than from this slow-ish NAS.
Thank you, Tom
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What REAL/ACTUAL features or fixes are in this beta??
Or is it ONLY this over-priced cloud backup thing??
I can recommend Jungle Disk -- it will back up from a NAS to Amazon S3, though it will be slow...
Backing up from a PC will often be faster than from this slow-ish NAS.
Thank you, Tom
1. The changes are listed at the top of the forum in stickies, please check there.
2. Interesting statement on pricing considering non have been announced yet.
3. How will backing up from your PC be faster than our 'slow-ish' NAS? Please elaborate.
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Is D-Link considering capabilities to backup from 1 DNS-323 to another one located at another location? I'd like to move my pictures and home movies offsite to another DNS device.
To be honest, I haven't used the auto-FTP process so maybe that will work for what I need.
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so obviously D-Link isn't interested in fixing the existing issues like incremental backups from many firmwares ago. They are just interested in trying to create new features, which is great if all the old features were working 100%, and as gunrunner mentioned don't list the prices, what is that all about?????
Whats the problem with incremental backups? I use it 3 times a week and it works 100%
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how have you set it up? i have tried and it won't work for me ..
i tried from volume1 to volume 2 and from volume1 to another nas and neither work for me ...
ultimately i would like it to work to another nas as th 323 isn't capable of transferring 1.3 TB of data in a night ...
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I use Task Manager to wake my machine in the middle of the night and run a file synchronization utility for this task. Much more flexible than trying to do it strictly with the DNS-323.
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hey gun what program do you use and how did you set it up? that is exactly what i am looking for ...
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I use Beyond Compare www.scootersoftware.com (http://www.scootersoftware.com) with a canned script to do the deed. I have Task Manager wake up my machine and run the batch file that invokes Beyond Compare. I do a similar thing for each machine once a week to do an Acronis True Image backup of the boot drive.
FWIW, I have Windows 7 which has a nice task manager capability. I checked XP, and it also has a Wake to run task, so I'm assuming that Vista does to, don't feel like waking that machine up. :D
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I just wanted to add my feedback on the new online back-up feature for the DNS-323...
For me if this service is priced right and online storage is adequate enough then I will use it and I will pay for it. When I saw this feature it was exactly what I was looking for. I did not like the idea of having another utility on my PC for online back-ups so this feature of putting the utility on the DNS-323 is brilliant....I truly hope you go ahead with this feature....
Now here is what I would pay for this service:
Based on the fact that similar "home" online back-up services for desktop computers such as Mozy and Carbonite run around $5.00 a month for unlimited backups of a single desktops internal drive....
I think a price for a "home" user of around $10 - $15 a month for unlimited backups would be fair...I am basing this on the fact that many "home" users would maybe backup two or three computers and backup more data than a single desktop PC....so I am trying to be fair here....Of course if they would charge less and still make money...fantastic....
Now I said "home" user if the device is used in an office than perhaps higher business pricing would be more appropriate...but for a "home" user the $10 - $15 month range is what I would pay....otherwise I would just go to the competition for less....
As for Data storage....you have to make it unlimited or at least that should be an option....there is nothing worse than doing backups and wondering if I am going to run out of room or not....yes some users will abuse this...but the vast majority of users would have reasonable backup requirements...and not having to worry about if or when you would reach your quota is a real bonus....
These are just my thoughts....
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I've registered on ctera.
My account expires in 29 days.
What happens after those 29 days ?
Can I continue my subscription or will I loose my backup ?
Regards, hans
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Will this new backup service allow user to send data to any ip address similar to CRONTAB or only specific backup organizations?
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I've registered on ctera.
My account expires in 29 days.
What happens after those 29 days ?
Can I continue my subscription or will I loose my backup ?
One would presume they'd actually price the service and let people know what it's going to cost. The short answer is, nobody seems to know what happens after the trial period or what the service will cost.
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Still no word on pricing?