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Author Topic: Tons of problems, please help  (Read 33237 times)

Demondriver

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Tons of problems, please help
« on: February 06, 2009, 02:47:11 PM »

Well to be honest ive rolled through all the topics in the forums and see im not the only one having issues with the dir655 model.  Anyways to be brief and organized i am going to ask for help in steps instead of throwing all ten million issues out at once and making things messy.

Dir 655 Hardware Revision A4  Firmware (stock) 1.20, have tried 1.21 and 1.21 beta 2

Issue 1 :

Upon hard reboot of router and a good power cycle of everything i am able to achieve at least 90% of my typical bandwidth consistently for a period of time. (couple hours usually).  After using a P2P client or by just simply letting time pass with the computer on my bandwidth crashes hard. 

Typical Line speed is 1.5mbps down, 384k up.   After a few hours i achieve typically  400k down, 60k up

I have trolled through the forums and talked to tech support and have manually changed nearly all the settings that others have, and one's that tech support had me change (lets just say after talking to tech support it took me 4 days to get the router to even make a connection)

Currently utilizing firmware 1.21 beta 2 (as the other versions i am able to use offered similar problems with no difference's over this one)  Have Dns relay off and line speed manually set to 100mbps on the router, modem, and in windows (marvell yukon network controller)

Any idea's of the performance drop?  "Generally" fixable after leaving the router unplugged for a good full day, hard rebooting it, power cycle, then restoration of config file, but like i said the goodness only lasts for awhile then back to square one
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Re: Tons of problems, please help
« Reply #1 on: February 06, 2009, 03:08:05 PM »

Try turning off logging (if its on).

Also make sure that no computer on your network has some form of P2p open, it could just be that once reset, it drops all connections then takes a while to reconnect everything, and start eating your bandwidth.
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Demondriver

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Re: Tons of problems, please help
« Reply #2 on: February 06, 2009, 04:02:44 PM »

where is the option to turn logging off? i see the syslog option under the tools menu, and see the log file for viewing but no option to "turn off" logging.

Your point makes sense though.  I currently only have my pc (main wired connection) with a ps3 connected wirelessly so there isnt anything that should be pulling off me besides my pc 
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onebyside

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Re: Tons of problems, please help
« Reply #3 on: February 06, 2009, 09:28:15 PM »

logs/log options/uncheck all options/apply settings= nothing to log
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Xinot

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Re: Tons of problems, please help
« Reply #4 on: February 07, 2009, 01:48:14 AM »

Maybe only Firewall & Security log off...

edit: i think it sooooo stupid to tell shut down this and that and see if it works after that... If you have this options, it SHOULD WORK WITH IT and thats it. If it wont work, its broken and manufacturers fault and job to fix it.
« Last Edit: February 07, 2009, 01:54:34 AM by Xinot »
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Re: Tons of problems, please help
« Reply #5 on: February 07, 2009, 02:56:26 AM »

Maybe only Firewall & Security log off...

edit: i think it sooooo [exploitive deleted] to tell shut down this and that and see if it works after that... If you have this options, it SHOULD WORK WITH IT and thats it. If it wont work, its broken and manufacturers fault and job to fix it.

A rather premature conclusion, wouldn't you say?
A network has more dimensions: router, NIC, OS, other clients, internet modem. So the cause of something not working in the router can easily be at one of those too...
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EddieZ

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Re: Tons of problems, please help
« Reply #6 on: February 07, 2009, 03:02:28 AM »

Could u you please post the LOG for the time frame you're talking about [reboot => degraded performance]? Ans please state your router's firewall config.

When having used P2P (closed down the client) there are always connection attempts that remain incoming. Since there is no receiving port opened in the router, the attempts fail. But still the sheer amount of those connection requests can smother the router.

Q:
Is only LAN to WAN speed affected; How about internal LAN performance?
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How's the security setting on your internet modem?
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Demondriver

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Re: Tons of problems, please help
« Reply #7 on: February 07, 2009, 08:26:42 AM »

Firewall is turned off completely. Windows, router etc.

Apparently the degrade in performance is only caused by the router. Unlplugging the router and running the internet directly to my motherboards built in nic resolves the issue and my bandwidth is back to normal.  Plug router back in without resetting it still results in degradation of performance.

Currently not running any "extra" security settings within the router or built in nic.

Side note :  maybe this was just a coincidence but upon running a bandwidth test at speakeasy (after simply playing WoW for 4hrs, before playing and upon startup of computer bandwidth test was fine) my degradation was apparent once again.  Went into router, checked log and noticed 367 "info" warnings of blocked access requests etc. 

Simply Cleared the log, and went directly to speakeasy for a bandwidth test.  Instantly back to normal.  Sounds to me like it is "possible" that he log is filling up and possibly affecting my performace?  or as stated earlier maybe it was just coincidence. 

Another side note : worked with computers, programming etc. for 16yrs now so i have a fairly decent understanding of how to get around in a pc etc.  This IS my first endeavor into routers/networking so some things i'll pick up on and others ill reply scratching my head and asking noobish questions so plz bear with. Thank's for the support given already though.

And yes Eddie once i compile another nice full log ill pop it up on here for analysis gimme a day or 2 as im gonna examine what i stated earlier and see if the log is whats causing my problem. if it is then we'll dissect the issue's being created
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EddieZ

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Re: Tons of problems, please help
« Reply #8 on: February 07, 2009, 08:50:19 AM »

I'll wait for that log.

The log cannot be the cause. When the assigned space is filled up it is cleared automatically. Remote chance that the main memory inside is corrupted, but that cannot be checked.

Q: Have you manually upgraded the firmware?
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Demondriver

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Re: Tons of problems, please help
« Reply #9 on: February 07, 2009, 09:15:51 AM »

yea i figured the log was simply a "fluke" issue but it was still odd non-the-less to go from poor performance to back to normal just after clearing the log (no reboot or anything).  im not quite sure what u mean by updating the firmware "manually" but i have gone from "stock" f/w 1.20 to 1.21, back to 1.20, then to 1.21build11beta02 all what i consider "manually" neways since i had to download the firmware, then upload the firmware etc. to the router.

So far i've experiance'd less issues with 1.21build11beta02 that i was having before (wired drops etc.) compared to 1.20 and 1.21 but still experiance the degradation of performance over time as stated.

Neways gettin ready to pull a bit on p2p so i should be able to pop the log up once i wake from a nap.
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EddieZ

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Re: Tons of problems, please help
« Reply #10 on: February 07, 2009, 09:18:40 AM »

Limit your P2P client (upload and fdownload slots. When set too high you'll use all available connections pretty fast in your router.
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Re: Tons of problems, please help
« Reply #11 on: February 07, 2009, 12:50:08 PM »

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[INFO] Sat Feb 07 15:39:26 2009 Blocked outgoing ICMP packet (ICMP type 3) from 192.168.0.199 to 89.12.108.144
[INFO] Sat Feb 07 15:39:25 2009 Blocked outgoing ICMP packet (ICMP type 3) from 192.168.0.199 to 83.24.146.32
[INFO] Sat Feb 07 15:39:25 2009 Blocked outgoing ICMP packet (ICMP type 3) from 192.168.0.199 to 85.60.227.30
[INFO] Sat Feb 07 15:39:24 2009 Blocked outgoing ICMP packet (ICMP type 3) from 192.168.0.199 to 24.189.13.41
[INFO] Sat Feb 07 15:39:24 2009 Blocked outgoing ICMP packet (ICMP type 3) from 192.168.0.199 to 88.138.56.111
[INFO] Sat Feb 07 15:39:24 2009 Blocked outgoing ICMP packet (ICMP type 3) from 192.168.0.199 to 68.94.24.150
[INFO] Sat Feb 07 15:39:24 2009 Blocked outgoing ICMP packet (ICMP type 3) from 192.168.0.199 to 87.89.41.126
[INFO] Sat Feb 07 15:39:23 2009 Blocked outgoing ICMP packet (ICMP type 3) from 192.168.0.199 to 76.188.120.75
[INFO] Sat Feb 07 15:39:23 2009 Blocked outgoing ICMP packet (ICMP type 3) from 192.168.0.199 to 77.102.248.240
[INFO] Sat Feb 07 15:39:23 2009 Blocked outgoing ICMP packet (ICMP type 3) from 192.168.0.199 to 212.183.50.158
[INFO] Sat Feb 07 15:39:23 2009 Blocked outgoing ICMP packet (ICMP type 3) from 192.168.0.199 to 85.230.113.101
[INFO] Sat Feb 07 15:39:23 2009 Blocked outgoing ICMP packet (ICMP type 3) from 192.168.0.199 to 24.202.13.140
[INFO] Sat Feb 07 15:39:22 2009 Blocked outgoing ICMP packet (ICMP type 3) from 192.168.0.199 to 71.61.125.14
[INFO] Sat Feb 07 15:39:22 2009 Blocked outgoing ICMP packet (ICMP type 3) from 192.168.0.199 to 82.48.232.53
[INFO] Sat Feb 07 15:39:21 2009 Blocked outgoing ICMP packet (ICMP type 3) from 192.168.0.199 to 72.68.193.110
[INFO] Sat Feb 07 15:39:21 2009 Blocked outgoing ICMP packet (ICMP type 3) from 192.168.0.199 to 190.78.169.136
[INFO] Sat Feb 07 15:39:19 2009 Blocked outgoing ICMP packet (ICMP type 3) from 192.168.0.199 to 82.255.83.84
[INFO] Sat Feb 07 15:39:19 2009 Blocked outgoing ICMP packet (ICMP type 3) from 192.168.0.199 to 98.209.76.11
[INFO] Sat Feb 07 15:39:17 2009 Blocked outgoing ICMP packet (ICMP type 3) from 192.168.0.199 to 77.250.163.72
[INFO] Sat Feb 07 15:39:16 2009 Blocked outgoing ICMP packet (ICMP type 3) from 192.168.0.199 to 81.62.84.197
[INFO] Sat Feb 07 15:39:16 2009 Blocked outgoing ICMP packet (ICMP type 3) from 192.168.0.199 to 92.78.40.158
[INFO] Sat Feb 07 15:39:16 2009 Blocked outgoing ICMP packet (ICMP type 3) from 192.168.0.199 to 193.126.168.246
[INFO] Sat Feb 07 15:39:15 2009 Blocked outgoing ICMP packet (ICMP type 3) from 192.168.0.199 to 86.170.27.155
[INFO] Sat Feb 07 15:39:15 2009 Blocked outgoing ICMP packet (ICMP type 3) from 192.168.0.199 to 85.197.28.156
[INFO] Sat Feb 07 15:39:14 2009 Blocked outgoing ICMP packet (ICMP type 3) from 192.168.0.199 to 90.242.195.241
[INFO] Sat Feb 07 15:39:14 2009 Blocked outgoing ICMP packet (ICMP type 3) from 192.168.0.199 to 92.96.110.83
[INFO] Sat Feb 07 15:39:13 2009 Blocked outgoing ICMP packet (ICMP type 3) from 192.168.0.199 to 24.109.58.74
[INFO] Sat Feb 07 15:39:13 2009 Blocked outgoing ICMP packet (ICMP type 3) from 192.168.0.199 to 79.86.184.107
[INFO] Sat Feb 07 15:39:12 2009 Blocked outgoing ICMP packet (ICMP type 3) from 192.168.0.199 to 99.242.77.8
[INFO] Sat Feb 07 15:39:12 2009 Blocked outgoing ICMP packet (ICMP type 3) from 192.168.0.199 to 99.53.101.37
[INFO] Sat Feb 07 15:39:11 2009 Blocked outgoing ICMP packet (ICMP type 3) from 192.168.0.199 to 142.167.1.199
[INFO] Sat Feb 07 15:39:10 2009 Blocked outgoing ICMP packet (ICMP type 3) from 192.168.0.199 to 87.205.167.129
[INFO] Sat Feb 07 15:39:10 2009 Blocked outgoing ICMP packet (ICMP type 3) from 192.168.0.199 to 212.186.70.74
[INFO] Sat Feb 07 15:39:10 2009 Blocked incoming TCP packet from 86.144.182.68:54314 to 64.184.37.18:35512 as FIN:PSH:ACK received but there is no active connection
[INFO] Sat Feb 07 15:39:09 2009 Blocked outgoing ICMP packet (ICMP type 3) from 192.168.0.199 to 79.179.67.30
[INFO] Sat Feb 07 15:39:09 2009 Blocked outgoing ICMP packet (ICMP type 3) from 192.168.0.199 to 193.170.48.235
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Demondriver

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Re: Tons of problems, please help
« Reply #12 on: February 07, 2009, 12:55:52 PM »

btw i couldnt post the entire log do to the enormous length of it that is only a portion.  2000 total logged issue's all stating relatively the same issue's.  i suppose i could manage to cut it all up and paste it all in here but it would obviously be probly 15 posts worth.  hopefully the above is enough

I use Azureus Vuze as my client and have the appropriate port for it forwarded in the router.  I let the client run for about 1.5hrs after the DL finished and then did a bandwidth test.  oddly enough everything checked out ok.  Now that has never happened for me ever after using my p2p client.  I'm really scratching my head alot now at what is going on.  Btw this issue of performance degradation has been going on for weeks and been rather consistent in nature.  Now after todays trial it has thrown me off a bit due to its seemingly randomness. No settings have been changed since ive been on the forums here sept for the time i stated that i "cleared" the log manually.  Neways your feedback is greatly appreciated.
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EddieZ

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Re: Tons of problems, please help
« Reply #13 on: February 07, 2009, 01:29:35 PM »

By the looks of it you got something configured the wrong way in your Internet modem. ICMP type 3 means...'Port unreachable' error. You might have set up your router correctly but it is unable to communicate to WAN.

Although it's not well known TCP seriously depends on ICMP packets of type 3 code 4 for "Path MTU Discovery" (PTMTUD). Blocking of these packets lead to congested IP connections. Could explain the degrading perfomance, doesn't it...Since a ICMP istype 3 is a response to the sending of a datagram (that cannot be delivered), I would like to know what kind of ICMP your LAN (x.x.x.199) is sending. The only way to find out is to have a 'packet sniffer' installed and log the outgoing traffic.

How's your router firewall setting? Try setting it (both) to "endpoint independent" if not already set this way and disable SPI.

Have you altered the standard Windows MTU or MSS on your PC?
« Last Edit: February 07, 2009, 01:51:59 PM by EddieZ »
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ttmcmurry

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Re: Tons of problems, please help
« Reply #14 on: February 07, 2009, 02:18:25 PM »

One simple thing you can do is to figure out if it's your computer or your router...

Invite a friend over who has WoW installed on their laptop (or who doesn't mind you installing WoW on it for the purpose of this test).  Turn your regular computer off.  Play WoW for 3-4 hours.  Do a speed test and see if the problem persists. 
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