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D-Link Wireless Routers for Home and Small Business => Information => Archive => Topic started by: pro2oman on March 15, 2012, 09:02:47 PM
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Hello, i just picked up the 857 and set up everything replacing my privies 655, the only thing is i can't seem to access my home server from within my local network using the external ip or dns. the local server ip works, and the external ip works when not in my network.
i have set up all port forwarding.
from what iv read I'm looking for nat loopback, any idea as to where this setting is?? never had this problem with the 655.
this is important for me mostly for laptop and phone that actual move form with in and out of my network.
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The DIR-857 router does not have a toggle on/off for NAT loopback. I tried a NAT loopback scenario on my 857 and works fine.
I have a NAS with FTP and HTTP service open on port 21 and 80 and went to virtual server and opened those two ports to the internal LAN IP for the NAS. I can access both ports from within the internal network using the LAN IP (of course) and using the WAN IP with no issues.
If you set your ports up using port forwarding, try removing those from there and use virtual server. As for my setup, I had everything factory reset and got the WAN up and then did the virtual server rules and worked fine.
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so try setting up all port n the virtual server.. ill give it a shot when i get home..
but then i can only use 1 port per rule... i can't use port ranges right?
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I might try using QoS and set up a range there and see. You can check out the QoS and Gaming sticky for XBL on how to set it up. Just change the ports you need for the ones listed in the sticky. You can review the sticky in any of the DGL or DIR series forums.
I'll post one in here soon.
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ok i tried using the vs.. but failed hard.. after reset i was not able to use the web .. keeped getting the no internet page from the 857 .. but i did have internet as i could ping google...
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How do you have the IP addresses set up on the devices? static or auto Obtain.
It's recommended to leave the devices set for Automatic and reserve IP address ON the router and let the router handle address assignment and management.
What ISP Modem do you have? Make and model. Cable or DSL?
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Where did you pick up your 857 at?
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I have a static ip from Acanac (DSL)(a Bell reseller) with Aztech DSL605EU from them.
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This modem bridged?
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yes sir.. all pppoe is done on the 857
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I have direct static IP here. I don't have a PPPoE connection.. yet. I have access to a dynamic connection that I can also try. Logically that should not make a difference whatsoever though.
What ports/services are you using?
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mainly 80,22,ftp, transmission and sabnzbd+ but also the odd game server(minecraft)
like before its not to much of a problem for the desktop, but that laptop and phone, that have apps controlling the services, it become a pain have to re config every time you change locations
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Check out page 33 of manual (ftp://ftp.aztech.com/support/malaysia/ADSL/DSL605EU%20User%20Manual%20v.1.0.pdf).
There are some other settings there besides just bridge. Is sharing enabled? What about encap? And I won't even touch the PVC settings. The manual goes on to explain them but its outside my element. Any DSL experts?
What happens when you ping the private IP from the LAN?
Edit: Made the link work better. But some of it is the server is in Singapore...and its not a very good server at that.
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cant open that manual.. link not working,
i can ping my external ip from within the lan
and modem setting have not changed from what i had with the 655(where it worked)
edit: link opened now...
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Link is working...
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cant open that manual.. link not working,
i can ping my external ip from within the lan
and modem setting have not changed from what i had with the 655(where it worked)
edit: link opened now...
Of I didn't mean to insinuate something has changed with the modem, just that SOMEthing has changed, IE it doesn't work anymore, but think its obvious something is different with this router. Could be its configured different, could be it works differently (or rather doesn't work) with the modem, or some kind of bug.
Question: What do you type when trying to reach your server in your LAN? 192.x.x.x:80? 192.x.x.x? 10.x.x.x:80? 68.x.x.x? 68.x.x.x:80? Have you tried just the public IP without port?
The fact that you could ping out but not get web is telling. Means either a issue with DNS or port 80. Since you were also having a problem with loop back port 80 requests, I would say its not DNS. So the question is why are the loop back working with ICMP but not with TCP on 80? I wonder if the loop back is done WAN>Loop>Firewall>NAT>LAN. If so, that might explain another bug I experienced. Hmm, would you feel comfortable sending a config file, or loading one of my config files see if we can isolate?
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I have a Minecraft server, SABnzbd account(NewsDemon?) and Filezilla I can test with. I know for a fact all 3 worked with my set up and the DGL-4500 so I will configure them and see if loop back works. Any input you could give would be helpful
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i tried both 192.x.x.x and 192.x.x.x:80, both work, and i tried both with external but both fail..
i noticed that is in closed the port and try external from local (tried to do a ssh loin to the server) i get a connection refused right away, but if the port is open i always get a timeout.
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Maybe the loop back doesn't work if there is a session already open from WAN > LAN?
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but then it should work for something initially.. it never seemed to work at all, even after resetting the whole network.
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Well I did test it, and went to go post my findings here and only then realized this forum is for the 857? I have the 657. I didn't even know the 857 was released yet. Well if your willing I would love to remote in and take a peek. ::grin:: Or it will have to wait until I can get my hands on one. Sorry.
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+1 for loopback issues.
I recently migrated from 655 to 857. I love the router, BUT the loop back isn't working for virtual servers all the time. I think I found the issue. Loop back to virtual servers doesn't work ONLY when you are using Inbound Filters.
Can anyone confirm this?
UPDATE 6/22/2012:
I just talked to customer support. They said NAT Loopback will work on the 857. They didn't offer much else with regard to why it isn't working for me. The technician even tried to say the Synology NAS is the problem. But this isn't the case. Because even using my hostname:8181 for remote management doesn't loopback either when Inbound Filters are set.
I also tried adding my local IPs (192.x.x.x) and my ISPs IP address, but had no luck from within the network.
I'll have to keep digging or call back DLink.
UPDATE 7/26/2012:
This is the note I received from D-Link support. This is a major bummer.
The WAN loopback will only work if there is no inbound filtering setup in your virtual server rule. When that is enabled it changes the behavior of the routing. There is no work around or any solution for this, its the way it is designed. If you want to use inbound filtering then you will need to use the local IP address of your NAS on the internal network.
Thank you for networking with D-Link .