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The Graveyard - Products No Longer Supported => Routers / COVR => DIR-868L => Topic started by: FrankTheTank on June 25, 2014, 11:17:16 AM
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I have a DIR-868L, A1, with firmware
1.0.8 1.0.9, NA. I would like to adjust the QoS settings so that a single port has the lowest priority and all the other ports have the highest (or higher) priority. Is there anyway to accomplish this? I previously owned a DIR-655 and the ability to lower the priority of a single port was possible on that model. Therefore, I would assume the same is possible for the 868L.
If there is no way to lower the priority, then is there a way to set the priority for a range of ports? If there is then I could create 3 three rules to accomplish the same thing:
- [0 - (X-1)] - Highest (1)
- [X] - Lowest (4)
- [(X+1) - 65535] - Highest (1)
Where X is the port set to the lowest priority.
Clarification of the Original Question: What is the priority setting for all ports not explicitly set in the QoS settings? A possible solution would be to set a single port to a priority lower than all the unassigned ports. This requires knowing what the implicit setting is for ports not assigned in the QoS settings.
Answer: From DLink: "All ports that are not being set prioritized will go under normal traffic." In other words, setting a single port to "Best Effort" puts it below the priority of all ports that are not defined.
June 2016 Update: QoS does not function properly on the DIR-868L. Details can be found in the FORUM USER REQUESTS and BUGS:
http://forums.dlink.com/index.php?topic=55708.0 (http://forums.dlink.com/index.php?topic=55708.0)
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Link>Welcome! (http://forums.dlink.com/index.php?topic=48135.0)
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Since this router has a new generation QoS engine, It may not be possible to do it as the old gen router was able to due to a new design in QoS and how it works.
For an example of how this new QoS can be used, please review this:
DIR-645/835/868L/865L/826L Gaming and QoS for XBL (http://forums.dlink.com/index.php?topic=44869.0)
What was the process you were using on the DIR-655? What Rev model was it?
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Thanks for the reply.
What region are you located?
I'm located in the NA region.
Since this router has a new generation QoS engine, It may not be possible to do it as the old gen router was able to due to a new design in QoS and how it works.
If this generation of the QoS engine took out the ability to lower the priority of a single port or, at the very least, the ability to adjust the priority of port ranges as a design choice, then it is clearly making a step in the wrong direction. On my DIR-655 (A4), the option for a port range is clearly present (check out the emulator).
If this is not possible with the DIR-868L then I am returning it...
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I recommend that you phone contact your regional D-Link support office and ask for help and information regarding this. We find that phone contact has better immediate results over using email.
Let us know how it goes please.
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I contacted D-Link support to get some answers regarding my QoS request. The two techs I spoke to gave different answers, so I am not entirely sure what to believe.
First, both techs were able to confirm that there is no way to set port ranges in QoS. They claimed that: "Unfortunately this is a product feature's limitation but we will try to report it to our Network Engineers." They mentioned that they would look into adding it into the next firmware, but I doubt it.
As for lowering the priority of a single port, both techs gave a different answer. According to the first tech I spoke to, "all ports not explicitly set in the QoS have an implicit priority of Normal (Queue Priority 3)." Therefore, if I were to set one port to Best Effort (Queue Priority 4) then it would be the lowest and all other traffic would be higher. This is exactly what I am looking for.
However, the second tech I spoke to, who didn't seem very knowledgeable on how QoS works, claimed that "all ports not explicitly set in the QoS have an implicit priority of Best Effort (Queue Priority 4)." That any port set in QoS would be higher than all the ports not set. This would make setting the lowest priority impossible.
My instinct is to trust the first tech. The second tech seemed to contraction herself several times and made several weird statements that revealed that she really didn't understand what QoS was. In any case, the D-Link support team said that they would ask the engineers and get back to me...
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From D-Link Support:
As I verified if you set up a priority (either lowest or highest) to a certain port or single port, all other ports that are not been set to priorities are on normal priority.
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I've asked my contact at D-Link to give some clarification on this. Please be patient.
Thank you.
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I've asked my contact at D-Link to give some clarification on this. Please be patient.
Thank you.
Thanks. I will try to be patient, however, the period in which I can return my DIR-868L is quickly coming to an end. If I can't get a definitive answer soon I will have no choice but to return the DIR-868L.
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I haven't heard anything from D-Link. I recommend that if your wanting to return this with in the time frame that you still have, you might do so.
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I haven't heard anything from D-Link either. They claim that they have forwarded the request to the engineers, however, it feels like they are just ignoring me. I called them back today to remind them that a week is sufficient time to answer a request for information.
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Ya there should be some feed back. However I believe CES has been going on hasn't it? Could be that D-Link is busy with that as well. I notice I haven't received any emails on other subjects i've asked about either as of late.
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Still waiting for a response from D-Link...
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I never heard anything back either. I recommend you get on the phone and ask for level 2 or higher support and see what you can find out.
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Update: A DLINK representative contacted me to inform me that they were still looking into my case. Apparently, at DLINK it takes more than three months to answer a request for information.
At this point its obvious that they can't or don't want to answer my question. It's very disappointing, since I really liked DLINK before this.
I asked the tech to leave the case open and if I get anymore information I will post it.
In the mean time, to anyone buying the DIR-868L for QoA, be warned...it might not behave the way you think.
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Thanks for the information and feed back. I have had my contact review this and they are aware of your case # and I've seen a couple of other reviews on this as well. I'll post information about it if I get some or have them post something. Please be patient.
Thank you for your time.
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Please be patient.
It has been nearly 3 months since my original request for information. If this isn't patience then I don't know what is.
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Is there any status on this? Have you been in contact with D-Link or has anyone from D-Link contacted you? I hope we can find some resolve for this...Please let me know. If there is a case number, please PM me the number for reference.
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Is there any status on this? Have you been in contact with D-Link or has anyone from D-Link contacted you? I hope we can find some resolve for this...Please let me know. If there is a case number, please PM me the number for reference.
It has been 4 months now, and I still have not received the information I requested. I have not been contacted by D-Link since my last inquiry (September 23). In the last email I received from D-Link, my contact, Mark Ligutom, stated that:
"We are still waiting for a feedback from our PM Department."
There is a case number and I will PM you it. I have asked multiple representatives to leave the case open until my information is received.
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Roger that. I'll pass this along to my contact at D-Link today. I'm hoping there will be some official information or possibly find you an alternative solution if this router wont work for you.
Thank you.
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Greetings FrankTheTank,
We understand that you have been waiting for an extended duration for a response and regret that it has taken this many months, please accept our sincere apologies for the delay. We followed up with our developers, and at this time, unfortunately there are no plans to change the QOS engine and the feature’s behaviors on the DIR-868L. The designs and specifications are intended to be different than the older DIR-655 model. It also lists primary application ports of choosing that satisfies most users. We understand that there are loyal customers that recommend certain changes or request for specific features. Please know that we do consider them and thank you for the feedback in bringing it to our attention.
Regarding your concerns with setting a port to the lowest priority, if you do so, the other application ports will be assigned an average bandwidth higher than it.
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Thank you Ryos for the clarification and information.
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Greetings FrankTheTank,
Regarding your concerns with setting a port to the lowest priority, if you do so, the other application ports will be assigned an average bandwidth higher than it.
RyoS thanks for the response. What do you mean when you say that "other ports will be assigned an average bandwidth higher"? I am interested in priority not bandwidth.
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This is where it can get confusing as the QOS engine is now based off of bandwidth shaping as opposed to traditional QoS based. Your program's traffic is then calculated based on the ratio from either Strict Priority Queue (SPQ) or Weighted Fair Queue (WFQ) which you set.
As an example, say your ISP assigned 150Mbps pipe of download and 20Mbps upload, and you want to use all of it unrestricted. Disable QoS checkbox. If you test your speed performance from your favorite online speed testing website you should reach your 150Mbps down and 20Mbps up.
If you set your Down Speed to 20480kpbs (20Mbps), your Uplink to 16384kbps (16Mbps), enable the QoS, and save the settings, your speed test website should reflect the new speeds.
In Strict Priority Queue (SPQ), if you set one IP to an Application with Queue ID 1(Highest), and another Application with Queue ID 4 (best effort) you will see about a 75% to 25% split respectively in download bandwidth speeds.
In WFQ, you can assign the bandwidth based on percentage of how you see fit. The total Queue Weight must add up to 100%.
So this allows you to designate how much bandwidth to partition based off of the available Uplink and Downlink Speed that you set.
Hope this clears things up a bit. I suggest you try it to see if it meets your expectations.
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Thank you RyoS for the additional, information, details and clarification.
I hope this helps in the configuration with the 868L. It's a good router. I like mine. ;D
This is where it can get confusing as the QOS engine is now based off of bandwidth shaping as opposed to traditional QoS based. Your program's traffic is then calculated based on the ratio from either Strict Priority Queue (SPQ) or Weighted Fair Queue (WFQ) which you set.
As an example, say your ISP assigned 150Mbps pipe of download and 20Mbps upload, and you want to use all of it unrestricted. Disable QoS checkbox. If you test your speed performance from your favorite online speed testing website you should reach your 150Mbps down and 20Mbps up.
If you set your Down Speed to 20480kpbs (20Mbps), your Uplink to 16384kbps (16Mbps), enable the QoS, and save the settings, your speed test website should reflect the new speeds.
In Strict Priority Queue (SPQ), if you set one IP to an Application with Queue ID 1(Highest), and another Application with Queue ID 4 (best effort) you will see about a 75% to 25% split respectively in download bandwidth speeds.
In WFQ, you can assign the bandwidth based on percentage of how you see fit. The total Queue Weight must add up to 100%.
So this allows you to designate how much bandwidth to partition based off of the available Uplink and Downlink Speed that you set.
Hope this clears things up a bit. I suggest you try it to see if it meets your expectations.
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This is where it can get confusing as the QOS engine is now based off of bandwidth shaping as opposed to traditional QoS based. Your program's traffic is then calculated based on the ratio from either Strict Priority Queue (SPQ) or Weighted Fair Queue (WFQ) which you set.
As an example, say your ISP assigned 150Mbps pipe of download and 20Mbps upload, and you want to use all of it unrestricted. Disable QoS checkbox. If you test your speed performance from your favorite online speed testing website you should reach your 150Mbps down and 20Mbps up.
If you set your Down Speed to 20480kpbs (20Mbps), your Uplink to 16384kbps (16Mbps), enable the QoS, and save the settings, your speed test website should reflect the new speeds.
In Strict Priority Queue (SPQ), if you set one IP to an Application with Queue ID 1(Highest), and another Application with Queue ID 4 (best effort) you will see about a 75% to 25% split respectively in download bandwidth speeds.
In WFQ, you can assign the bandwidth based on percentage of how you see fit. The total Queue Weight must add up to 100%.
So this allows you to designate how much bandwidth to partition based off of the available Uplink and Downlink Speed that you set.
Hope this clears things up a bit. I suggest you try it to see if it meets your expectations.
Thanks for the reply. Unfortunately, your response doesn't answer my original question.
A representative did contact me about a month ago and provided an answer: "All ports that are not being set prioritized will go under normal traffic". Therefore, setting a single port to "Best Effort" (priority 4) should put it below all unassigned ports.
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I presume maybe the configuration and behavior of your networking environment may needs to change slightly. Maybe find a different way to configure the router for you needs? Do you still have the router?
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I presume maybe the configuration and behavior of your networking environment may needs to change slightly. Maybe find a different way to configure the router for you needs? Do you still have the router?
You presume incorrectly. The issue was not the network setup, but rather the documentation provided by DLINK. It was ambiguous; which is why several DLINK techs gave different answers as to what the implicit setting for unassigned ports in the QoS was.
The problem has been solved: All ports that aren't assigned a priority in the QoS take on the Normal setting (Tier 3). Therefore, explicitly setting a single port to "Best Effort" (Tier 4) is a solution.
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Maybe you can enjoy now. ;)
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Note: QoS does not function properly on the DIR-868L. Details can be found in the FORUM USER REQUESTS and BUGS:
http://forums.dlink.com/index.php?topic=55708.0 (http://forums.dlink.com/index.php?topic=55708.0)
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Working on getting GPL code for rev As. Until then:
http://forums.dlink.com/index.php?topic=53989.msg270106#msg270106
(http://forums.dlink.com/index.php?topic=53989.msg270106#msg270106)
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This forum thread is now closed due to EoL for the DIR-868L Rev A. Been a good router.
Thanks for all the user input.
Users can load 3rd party FW if for continued use as a router:
http://forums.dlink.com/index.php?topic=53989.msg270106#msg270106 (http://forums.dlink.com/index.php?topic=53989.msg270106#msg270106)
Other good uses for the 868L, Wireless Bridge mode or LAN to LAN AP mode.
Good Luck.