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Author Topic: Ssecond Xbox one always gets strict  (Read 55466 times)

FurryNutz

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Re: Ssecond Xbox one always gets strict
« Reply #30 on: March 03, 2014, 10:37:15 AM »

BS said that he's now getting strict NAT on both XB1s. However he's recently move and his network configuration changed. Before he had a network switch in between the 5500 and the 868L which the XB1 was connected. After he moved, the switch was removed. He's going to try adding the switch again and see what happens.
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Re: Ssecond Xbox one always gets strict
« Reply #31 on: March 03, 2014, 10:48:28 AM »

hmmmmm...Thats interesting to say the least. Looking forward to hearing back.
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Re: Ssecond Xbox one always gets strict
« Reply #32 on: March 03, 2014, 10:50:46 AM »

Will be later this afternoon or evening when the wife goes to work.  ::)
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Re: Ssecond Xbox one always gets strict
« Reply #33 on: March 05, 2014, 04:30:59 AM »

http://forums.xbox.com/xbox_forums/xbox_support/xbox_update_preview/xbox_one_preview_support/f/4586/p/1705635/4546058.aspx#4546058

Furry can you explain to me what an ARP Table is?  This user on xbox.com is suggesting maybe that's causing the problem with instant on function.
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Re: Ssecond Xbox one always gets strict
« Reply #34 on: March 05, 2014, 07:03:25 AM »

Can you confirm this link again? I'm getting the following when I try to view it from my account:
Group Not Found
The requested Group cannot be found.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arptables

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Address_Resolution_Protocol

http://www.ehow.com/how_7579023_clear-arp-table.html

Do you still have your 4500? It would be a good test to see what happens with the 4500 and two XB1s and Instant On...
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Re: Ssecond Xbox one always gets strict
« Reply #35 on: March 05, 2014, 07:19:21 AM »

was afraid that would happen.  Thats in the private forum.  Here's copy of it. 

Him: Is the router dropping its ARP tables as in are they dynamic as opposed to static this may be why it looses the ports during sleep period ? Other than that if no port trigger is available have you tried putting one in port forward rules and one in DMZ ( I know it will hamper coms to internal lan devices but may work as workaround)

Ive seen plenty of home routers in the past that drop the arp tables due to being dynamic and in my case stops WOL from targeting the correct device internally from external ip my fix was to enable static nat ( ISP may not allow this on the supplied device so bridge mode to device where you can set arp tables to static thus ports should stay mapped through sleep period) ?????

The fault in this  case to me is the router, dynamic arp tables will cause mapped ports to drop when a device sleeps so setting static ARP should stabilize it unless the UPNP on that device is also set to drop port maps when they sleep ??

Me: Bliss IRL I've tried putting one in dmz and the other port forwarded.  One is still strict in that case.  All devices are dynamic however the ip's are reserved so they never change ip addresses.  I've had the same ip addresses on both since launch day so thats not the issue for me. 

Him: O h i see so it was working previous to the last update is that What we are saying ?? ARP tables are not usually accessible via web gui - usually done via ssh or telnet to device and setting the device to hold static records may reslove this as workaround though.

IF it was fine before the latest update then this is a for fix issue for M$.

Other strange things ive seen since day one on XB1 if using wifi encryption say for example WPA PSK 2 - i have seen the XB1 display strict NAT, The only thing i could do in that case to alleviate for my buddy was to disable the encryption fully on the AP and set allow mac assigned access list only ( With broadcast of loads of bogus ssid's for little extra security ) This is not ideal but even with firewall off it would still show strict nat made no bloody sense at all until i pulled down the wifi encryption may imply encapsulation issue possibly i dunno ????



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Re: Ssecond Xbox one always gets strict
« Reply #36 on: March 05, 2014, 07:27:26 AM »

Are you and this person referencing this model router?

Test the XB1s with WPA2 and AES only as a test...
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Re: Ssecond Xbox one always gets strict
« Reply #37 on: March 05, 2014, 07:29:40 AM »

 Mines are both hardwired.  I'll connect mines to wifi just to do this as a test tho.  Can't hurt to try.  I'm not sure what router he's running. 
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Re: Ssecond Xbox one always gets strict
« Reply #38 on: March 05, 2014, 07:36:42 AM »

Might find out.

BS told me this morning that his 2 XB1s have been up dated and are both seeing OPEN NAT with Instant ON enabled on both.

Let us know if you can test the 4500 out too...or a different router...
« Last Edit: March 05, 2014, 07:41:08 AM by FurryNutz »
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Re: Ssecond Xbox one always gets strict
« Reply #39 on: March 05, 2014, 07:44:32 AM »

wow...Did he put the switch back in place?  Both of mines have been updated for a few days now I was part of the early preview.  If he still has open after powering them off and back on then thats interesting.  I need to see what settings he has.  any ports forwarded?  or just upnp?
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Re: Ssecond Xbox one always gets strict
« Reply #40 on: March 05, 2014, 07:50:45 AM »

Ya I'm bugging him now to get off Ghosts and post in the forums. LOL  ::)
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Re: Ssecond Xbox one always gets strict
« Reply #41 on: March 05, 2014, 07:52:48 AM »

hahaha ok cool
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Re: Ssecond Xbox one always gets strict
« Reply #42 on: March 05, 2014, 07:57:41 AM »

May be a long shot but do you think it may have something to do with the actiontec I have connected to the 5500? 
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Re: Ssecond Xbox one always gets strict
« Reply #43 on: March 05, 2014, 08:18:24 AM »

What model Modem do you have? BS has DSL and I believe and Actiontec modem...one he bought...

I presume that the modem is giving full public IP addressing to the router?

You could try putting the modem in to router mode and then put the IP address that the 5500 gets from them modem into the modems DMZ and test....
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Re: Ssecond Xbox one always gets strict
« Reply #44 on: March 05, 2014, 08:22:35 AM »

actiontec mi424wr rev i is the model I have.  so you're saying put the ip that the 5500 gives the fios router into the fios dmx or the 5500 dmz? only reason it's connected even is to get info and on demand to my fios boxes.
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