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Title: DIR-655 & Bridge Mode
Post by: pmarcovi on March 05, 2009, 07:55:12 AM
Is there any way of configuring this router to run  in "bridge mode"? If not, would be something that can be added in the future?
Title: Re: DIR-655 & Bridge Mode
Post by: arod on March 05, 2009, 08:53:49 AM
Check out the DAP-1522
Title: Re: DIR-655 & Bridge Mode
Post by: pmarcovi on March 06, 2009, 08:29:31 AM
So I have to throw away my current DIR-655 and spend 100+ to have functionality that other routers have included for free? Does that make sense?

Any changes in settings that I can do to make it behave like an AP? Disable DHCP, NAT?
Title: Re: DIR-655 & Bridge Mode
Post by: Lycan on March 06, 2009, 08:47:25 AM
We removed Bridge Mode, it's not needed and cause problems.
Also of course the unit can act as an AP. You already know what to do, you listed it in your last post.

Disable DHCP, change the units LAN IP to something on your subnet but no in your SHCP scope and connect the unit LAN to the gateway LAN.

Turning a router into an AP. (http://forums.dlink.com/index.php?topic=40856.0)

Title: Re: DIR-655 & Bridge Mode
Post by: mack0 on March 14, 2009, 06:59:50 AM
Well, this more a workaround than a real solution. I have this configuration and some functionalities of the router does not work properly. For instance, it cannot synchronize with an external time server (the router tries to establish the connection through the WAN interface that is not connected).

I agree with pmarcovi. This is something that should be supported. In fact, it was available in early versions of the firmware... (I had no chance to test it so I do not know which problems caused). It is a pity that Dlink does not see this as an important requirement and invest more effort to solve the initial problems.
Title: Re: DIR-655 & Bridge Mode
Post by: Lycan on March 16, 2009, 08:25:45 AM
We believe that it is a router and should act as such, if you need an AP buy an AP, not a router.

Title: Re: DIR-655 & Bridge Mode
Post by: EddieZ on March 16, 2009, 12:39:13 PM
We believe that it is a router and should act as such, if you need an AP buy an AP, not a router.



Quite logical. You don't ask the car dealer to add some pedals  ;Dto you BMW 5-series  because you want to use it as a bike...
Title: Re: DIR-655 & Bridge Mode
Post by: mack0 on March 17, 2009, 01:44:40 PM
Nice joke ;D but I do not think that selling bikes for a similar price as a BMW 5 series is a good business  ;).

My suggestion is related to allow to disable functionalities of the router if they are not temporary required. In my case I'm using the DIR 655 as a backup of the main DSL router (that has also VoIP support). So in case I loose the main one I can temporary use this. I can use also the USB 3G connectivity (nice feature) in case the DSL connection is lost. In the mean time, I'm using it to have wireless N support and improve the network range.

Never mind, I can understand that the main priority of Dlink is to make it work as a router and therefore, other features not related to this has less or no priority (even they were initially implemented)...

Title: Re: DIR-655 & Bridge Mode
Post by: Lycan on March 17, 2009, 02:41:27 PM
you are correct. We removed it as a potential issue. We did not feel it was a necessary feature for this product.

Title: Re: DIR-655 & Bridge Mode
Post by: makelegs on May 03, 2009, 06:07:21 PM
you are correct. We removed it as a potential issue. We did not feel it was a necessary feature for this product.



C'mon, guys!
"Features"... almost by definition are not "necessary".  But "features" tend to determine why consumers "purchase" one item or another even though BOTH items "function".  I have to admit that I'm a little perturbed that D-Link didn't at least see the bridge "feature" as an obvious segue to an easier router-upgrade-rationalization on the part of the consumer.  Telling one (me) to instead buy 2 new devices and simply trash my DIR-655 is akin to telling the consumer (me) to go shop the other manufactures.  It wouldn't be so irritating if it weren't, admittedly, a question of firmware deployment... or in this case RE-deployment.  D-Link must have thought it a worthy "feature" to have originally included it .

So... how about you (D-Link) just re-activate our BRIDGE "feature", so I can just move on to figuring out which D-LINK dual-band router I'd like to upgrade to (clearly should have gone this route in the FIRST place and avoided my need for this conversation... my BAD!). 

 :) :) :) :) :)
Title: Re: DIR-655 & Bridge Mode
Post by: EddieZ on May 04, 2009, 01:09:10 AM
If you want a bridge the DIR 655 is not the right device. It's a router. That's how they made it. :D
It's like asking a F1 car to have perfect handling with 50 mph.

If you need to do concessions to the core functionality to get an extra feature working you might understand that that's a bad choice...
Title: Re: DIR-655 & Bridge Mode
Post by: KHS on May 31, 2009, 12:31:59 PM
I had the same question, here is what I ended up getting from DLink Tech Support, I went through it and it worked:
If you are connecting the D-Link router to another router to use as a wireless access point and/or switch, you will have to do the following before connecting the router to your network:

Disable UPnPT
Disable DHCP
Change the LAN IP address to an available address on your network. The LAN ports on the router cannot accept a DHCP address from your other router.

To connect to another router, please follow the steps below:

1. Plug the power into the router. Connect one of your computers to the router (LAN port) using an Ethernet cable. Make sure your IP address on the computer is 192.168.0.xxx (where xxx is between 2 and 254). Please see the Networking Basics section for more information. If you need to change the settings, write down your existing settings before making any changes. In most cases, your computer should be set to receive an IP address automatically in which case you will not have to do anything to your computer.

2. Open a web browser and enter http://192.168.0.1 and press Enter. When the login window appears, set the user name to Admin and leave the password box empty. Click Log In to continue.

3. Click on Advanced and then click Advanced Network. Uncheck the Enable UPnP checkbox. Click Save Settings to continue.

4. Click Setup and then click Network Settings. Uncheck the Enable DHCP Server server checkbox. Click Save Settings to continue.

5. Under Router Settings, enter an available IP address and the subnet mask of your network. Click Save Settings to save your settings. Use this new IP address to access the configuration utility of the router in the future. Close the browser and change your computer's IP settings back to the original values as in Step 1.
Connect to Another Router

6. Disconnect the Ethernet cable from the router and reconnect your computer to your network.

7. Connect an Ethernet cable in one of the LAN ports of the router and connect it to your other router. Do not plug anything into the Internet port of the D-Link router.

8. You may now use the other 3 LAN ports to connect other Ethernet devices and computers. To configure your wireless network, open a web browser and enter the IP address you assigned to the router. Refer to the Configuration and Wireless Security sections for more information on setting up your wireless network.
Title: Re: DIR-655 & Bridge Mode
Post by: Grimmy on August 11, 2009, 02:50:15 PM
I cant see why this is acceptable, and why such strange comparisons are made to defend that statement.
This is obviously a decision made to make more money selling unnecessary extra products, which costs extra, pollutes the environment and so on.

Think of all the features Microsoft could have removed from Windows by a forced Windows Update, forcing us to buy extra software for features we initially had. Even if its not a commonly used feature, like ICS - I'm sure the community would have spoken up, making Microsoft put it back in place.

I for one would like to speak my mind that I do not find the statement from DLink okay. For years I have bought DLink products considering them to be one of the best in that market. However, when they treat customers like this - my loyalty fades.

If I do not see a change in DLinks attitude here (soon!), I will without a doubt avoid DLink products in the future.
Title: Re: DIR-655 & Bridge Mode
Post by: jason1722x on August 12, 2009, 03:02:22 AM
We believe that it is a router and should act as such, if you need an AP buy an AP, not a router.


So Shareport would be considered a "Router Function"?  SecureSpot is a router function?
I'm sorry but those sound more like a marketing function.
Title: Re: DIR-655 & Bridge Mode
Post by: Ozzed on August 21, 2009, 02:39:02 AM
It is a shame that a router that costs well over $150 and that HAD THE FEATURE VISIBLE got firmware that hid it. It is supported by the hardware, and most other manufacturers using the platform seem to be able to provide it without the "issues" that no one seems to have. I (And probably 100% of the other D-link customers that brings money in your pockets by buying your products)  would like to see the feature back without having to use the CSS-hack. (The guy at tech support was nice enough to let me know, but still).

Also, as pointed out earlier by me and others, buying a whole new product to get what you already have on an existing product isn't very "Green"..
Title: Re: DIR-655 & Bridge Mode
Post by: jason1722x on August 21, 2009, 06:28:47 AM
It is a shame that a router that costs well over $150 and that HAD THE FEATURE VISIBLE got firmware that hid it. It is supported by the hardware, and most other manufacturers using the platform seem to be able to provide it without the "issues" that no one seems to have. I (And probably 100% of the other D-link customers that brings money in your pockets by buying your products)  would like to see the feature back without having to use the CSS-hack. (The guy at tech support was nice enough to let me know, but still).

Also, as pointed out earlier by me and others, buying a whole new product to get what you already have on an existing product isn't very "Green"..
Get real when companies talk green it's all about the greenback.
Title: Re: DIR-655 & Bridge Mode
Post by: Demonized on August 23, 2009, 02:16:30 PM
The whole controversy relative to this router is loosing DLink lot's of customers.  Once a consumer is jilted, they spread the word vehemently too.  This is just one example.  The lockups are more disturbing.

TheWitness

Ever seen a flawless device without any complaints or (non resloved) issues? So I think it is all quite relative.
Title: Re: DIR-655 & Bridge Mode
Post by: Ozzed on August 23, 2009, 03:16:03 PM
However, the flaw lies with the company here, rather than the device. The functionality was fully visible and functional, but then they "removed" it with CSS hacking, trying to fool us into buying an AP instead when the functionality is just there in the router. That is flawed FIRMWARE and flawed product management. Not a flawed product.
Title: Re: DIR-655 & Bridge Mode
Post by: lizzi555 on August 23, 2009, 08:38:40 PM
Hi Ozzed,

the AP functionality and a lot more (i.e. WDS) is hidden in the menu because it is a basic fuctionality of the Ubicom series.
As D-Link doesn't want this feature, they made it (nearly  ;D ) invisible.

So there was no devellopment of these features and they come pehaps with the state of their first days.
I can understand that D-Link doesn't want to provide new features until the visible ones work propperly.

And of course you are right. There is a lot of marketing.
But tell me a company that does not want to earn more money.

If you want, use these hidden features. But complainig about it may lead to the complete deletion of them in the firmware.
As they are not advertised for this device, this would only be a little step.

I'm using one DIR series Router as AP and it works flawless without QoS.
Using QoS in addition to the router's QoS slowed down the speed.
Using the same SSID and encryption as the router it provides seamless roaming.
Title: Re: DIR-655 & Bridge Mode
Post by: Ozzed on August 24, 2009, 01:38:40 AM
Hi. They did in fact have this visible in the first revision (up until FW 1.02 I think) But later removed it with the release of their separate wireless AP. I'm sure there is a "D-link can modify and change anything without telling anyone"- line in the EULA, but still.. some people might have bought the router in order to be able to enjoy this functionality in addition to the routing performance and such, and I don't think it is fair to hide it. Of course I am but a simple user and my single opinion might not be very important. But the forums are for venting, no? ;)

Anyway.. I think we all like D-link.. that isn't the matter here. I personally just feel that the whole "Green" thing tastes kind of bad with the "Go buy our extra devices if you want functionality that is already in your router." Statement.. I mean, do they want to really be green or is it all marketing hoax?
Title: Re: DIR-655 & Bridge Mode
Post by: TheAncientEvil on October 22, 2009, 01:18:11 PM
I can personally speak to this as I had a DIR-655 that had been working great for me so when I needed a good AP for the office, I bought DIR-655 for that as it had a bridge mode and I felt it was a quality unit.  Of course, now I cannot update the FW on it as it will remove the Bridge Mode option.  I very much disagree with the feature being removed or "hidden" as it was.  Unless D-Link was going to swap out the unit for a bridge model which of course they wouldn't.  Its a bit of a slap in the face to loyal customer.
Title: Re: DIR-655 & Bridge Mode
Post by: acoustics on October 29, 2009, 02:55:33 AM
Sigh... 'slap in the face?? really?' Did they use a little glove to do it or was it more an open hand woman cat fight moment that you just felt delivered?

The majority of comments on here just whine on and on just make it harder for everyone else.
I stumbled here and really wanted to find some great optimum tweaking for ps3 streaming type info but instead I find this dreadful place.

Honestly, I feel REALLY bad for D-Link.
They have a kick ass router (and tons of other kick ass products) with tons of features and all it does is creates more problems because people tinker with it and screw things up, too quick to blame D-Link and scream murder before actually restoring anything, calling them, emaling or just swapping with your dealer. I'm not saying that their products are perfect, some flat out sucked, but its their user base, the clientele that really turns me off.

I highly doubt they're losing 'tons of sales' over this. D-Link is here to stay. And yes this forum is full the sour comments and some have 'real' issues - But take a look at Newegg and other retailers, its got some of the best reviews and high marks of any company router. I dont think this beta forum represents the larger whole of people walking into best buy or newegg or the largest retailers out there.

All I can say is that I can tell by their post and frequent updates that they ARE trying very hard to please them all. Honestly, no software is bug free, it'll just be less bug free and they'll never win them all.

My DIR-655 has been flawless on latest Firmware 132NA, never a freeze (no joke) or reboot and I use all the default features, plus ddns, static ips, dhcp, have ps3, Mac Pro Nehalem, MBP, MB, ASUS, Foxconn Desktop, iphone and plenty of devices using bit torrent, streaming movies. It did stop sending internet once for about 3 minutes, but Ive never had it reboot itself like many post here describe.  The Wireless N speed rock, and I wire those Non N devices. ALL IS GOOD. It really makes me think that you guys have bad hardware or tinker with features that dont need to be messed with.  I dont use Shareport, so I cant speak of that and it could very well be broken. But some of you guys are for real, and the rest just want to scream for some dumb feature that they dont actually need, and already lived most their life without, and could just use a workaround.

I mean theres even post Ive read to the effect of 'oh DLink fixed it for me, but Im still not grateful because I had to call them.' what a lame person that is to not even appreciate a fix and let it go.

But for the 1% that has real problems (seriously, it cant be more than 1% with the sales that DLink Does and the very few people on this forum) I feel for you and hope it all works out. You paid for it and spent lots of time that you wont ever get back.

But for the other 99%, just grow a pair already OR switch companies, or give up and just stop using all electronic devices too, because reading the help docs and common sense is too hard apparently.

I mean it! this forum is polluted with just bitter girly men.  and I commend D-Link for listening to you because I HATE to even read the post, let alone the thought of actually speaking with some of these tar.dbags.

OPEN THE FAQ and look up 'PEBKAC' in the Appendix. It explains all you need to know about how this router operates. Read it again or write it down. Got it??

Or just hack the thing and write your own firmware and let me know when thats finished - but for now I'm headed back streaming my favorite Halloween movies to my plasma.

Good luck D-Link! You'll need all you got to appease these hounds.

Aww...Look at them all... riding in the short bus with their helmets on all crooked, and the way the sun is glimmering on their drool, I feel bad for em almost ya know?
In the words of 'what about bob'...Baby Steps... Baby Steps.. you can do it!
Title: Re: DIR-655 & Bridge Mode
Post by: Lycan on October 29, 2009, 10:47:46 AM
But the forums are for venting, no? ;)



Ozzed,
NO you are incorrect. These forums are NOT for venting. They are for customers that are looking for legitmate support for SUPPORTED features.

That being said I'm going to lock this thread.

-Lycan.

Bridge Mode vs Relay vs Acess Point (AP) / Routers vs Dedicated Access Points (AP) (http://forums.dlink.com/index.php?topic=50738.0)