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Title: H.264 and MKV
Post by: manusz on April 15, 2009, 12:54:40 PM
This poll has the intention on making dlink work on future support for H.264 and/or Matroska (.mkv) files
Title: Re: H.264 and MKV
Post by: novolo on April 21, 2009, 12:18:58 PM
now 99% of the HD and m-HD content on the web is .mkv (h.264)

it is very difficult to find HD content on any other format...

i have a huge collection of movies in .mkv and have to re-encode all of them to xvid to be able to watch them through the DSM-510
EVERY HD movie you download WILL BE IN .MKV ....    so if you really want to make use of its HD capabilities you will have to re-encode the .mkv files with annother codec....


d-link should make this codec (h.264) and the container (.mkv) compatible with the DSM-510...   it would make the device perfect...   its the only thing it's missing
Title: Re: H.264 and MKV
Post by: pmjobe on April 23, 2009, 09:21:52 PM
MKV and x264 files will play on the 510 NOW.........I'm using the brand new (latest version) of TVersity and I'm watching a .mkv file right now......it works great and clearly is a software issue as far as being able to watch .mkv HD files on the DSM-510.......Give it a whirl, works great for me.........WHY Dlink couldn't figure this out is beyond my comprehension..........
Title: Re: H.264 and MKV
Post by: MladenPerisic on May 18, 2009, 09:28:57 AM
pmjobe...

If you do not change your posts about MKV & H.264 & DSM-510, I'll report you to moderators as your posts looks like advertisement for TVersity all over the forum.

Please, try to understand that product you are pointing to IS NOT always the solution. What if I my customers want to watch MKV videos directly from some UPnP NAS device? Telling them they need to do conversion from MKV to VOB or to stream trough TVersity is not near good solution. They want (yes, they asked me for this) firmware with better support for MKV files.

Now, the below lines should be seen by D-Link sales managers:
You sent us price lists with promotion prices for DSM-510 in Adria region before 2 months I believe. You are underlining DSM-510 DivX support! Did you know that most (if not all of them) customers here watch DivX movies with subtitles. And how good is DivX subtitle support in DSM-510? The answer is one question: Could it bee worsen!?
Now, you could tell me that D-Link has more expensive devices with better support for subtitles. Yes, and I can tell you that PM for WD in my company has device which costs far less then DSM-510 on stock with far better support for DivX subs and (watch this) excellent MKV support! Of course, WDTV is not networked device - D-Link DSM-510 is networked device with no support for the MOST popular High Def format on the planet.
Title: Re: H.264 and MKV
Post by: ECF on May 20, 2009, 08:35:32 AM
The DNS-323 UPnP AV media server support .mkv with its latest 1.08 beta code.
Title: Re: H.264 and MKV
Post by: manusz on May 20, 2009, 09:16:57 AM
The DNS-323 UPnP AV media server support .mkv with its latest 1.08 beta code.

huh?
Whatīs supposed to mean this answer?
Ddnīt get it at all
Title: Re: H.264 and MKV
Post by: ECF on May 20, 2009, 10:41:55 AM
pmjobe I think is simply try to help to inform you of a way to play mkv video files on a device that does not support mkv natively. Tversity will trancode mkv files on the fly to allow playback on the DSM-510. The DSM-510 like the DSM-520 does not have a processor thats supports .h264 such as the DSM-750 does so using this media server is one way to playback mkv files you may have.
Title: Re: H.264 and MKV
Post by: MladenPerisic on May 20, 2009, 12:20:28 PM
Ok, I understand - hardware limitations. That's official now.
CPU used in this box is EM8620L-LF. Checking documentation for this Sigma Design processor, it's clearly written that this CPU is not capable playing H.264. This is how you should answer, ECF ;)...

Now, can you tell us when will be added better subtitle support in DSM-510?

This is how it's done on WDTV: http://www.wdc.com/en/products/wdtv/ (http://www.wdc.com/en/products/wdtv/)
Title: Re: H.264 and MKV
Post by: manusz on May 21, 2009, 08:38:39 AM
Ok, I understand - hardware limitations. That's official now.
CPU used in this box is EM8620L-LF. Checking documentation for this Sigma Design processor, it's clearly written that this CPU is not capable playing H.264. This is how you should answer, ECF ;)...

Now, can you tell us when will be added better subtitle support in DSM-510?

This is how it's done on WDTV: http://www.wdc.com/en/products/wdtv/ (http://www.wdc.com/en/products/wdtv/)


Where do u get such precious info??? Please share more with the community
Title: Re: H.264 and MKV
Post by: MladenPerisic on May 21, 2009, 09:58:53 PM
Main board without heat sinks:

http://www.smallnetbuilder.com/content/view/29869/80/1/6/ (http://www.smallnetbuilder.com/content/view/29869/80/1/6/)

CPU specification from Sigma Designs site (PDF file):
http://www.sigmadesigns.com/public/Products/EM8620L/pdf_files/EM8620L_br.pdf (http://www.sigmadesigns.com/public/Products/EM8620L/pdf_files/EM8620L_br.pdf)
Title: Re: H.264 and MKV
Post by: droste on August 24, 2009, 10:01:30 AM
pmjobe I think is simply try to help to inform you of a way to play mkv video files on a device that does not support mkv natively. Tversity will trancode mkv files on the fly to allow playback on the DSM-510. The DSM-510 like the DSM-520 does not have a processor thats supports .h264 such as the DSM-750 does so using this media server is one way to playback mkv files you may have.
Please, is there any setting? I can't transcode mkv files with tversity!

Thanks
Title: Re: H.264 and MKV
Post by: droste on August 24, 2009, 10:03:22 AM
MKV and x264 files will play on the 510 NOW.........I'm using the brand new (latest version) of TVersity and I'm watching a .mkv file right now......it works great and clearly is a software issue as far as being able to watch .mkv HD files on the DSM-510.......Give it a whirl, works great for me.........WHY Dlink couldn't figure this out is beyond my comprehension..........
Please, is there any special setting? I don't succeed in playing mkv files with tversity...
Thanks!
Max
Title: Re: H.264 and MKV
Post by: eman on August 24, 2009, 11:00:18 AM
Max.. No special settings. Gotta run 1.6 of TVersity. Keep in mind that the .mkv will be transcribed into .mpg. It will lose DolbyD & DTS but will play. You need a fairly hot CPU (I am running a duo processor 3.2 Ghz) and a wired connection to the the 510.  Stick with 720P. 1080P not really practical...

I also have a 750 and native .mkv is the way to go... ce
Title: Re: H.264 and MKV
Post by: droste on August 24, 2009, 09:02:33 PM
Max.. No special settings. Gotta run 1.6 of TVersity. Keep in mind that the .mkv will be transcribed into .mpg. It will lose DolbyD & DTS but will play. You need a fairly hot CPU (I am running a duo processor 3.2 Ghz) and a wired connection to the the 510.  Stick with 720P. 1080P not really practical...

I also have a 750 and native .mkv is the way to go... ce
ok, maybe i have a Pentium IV 3.06 GHZ and so thre is not enough power to transcode?
max
Title: Re: H.264 and MKV
Post by: eman on August 25, 2009, 11:34:55 AM
Max.. That's plenty of speed.. Are you wired or wireless? I could not get the 510 to play the transcoded .mpg without being hard wired to the router.. ce
Title: Re: H.264 and MKV
Post by: droste on August 30, 2009, 05:31:32 AM
Max.. That's plenty of speed.. Are you wired or wireless? I could not get the 510 to play the transcoded .mpg without being hard wired to the router.. ce
no, no I' m wired, of course, but....nothing to do...
thanks, max
Title: Re: H.264 and MKV
Post by: cappellin on September 01, 2009, 01:08:50 PM
Same problem here. I read that using TVersity it can be possibile to watch file .mkv even with DSM-510, that natively doens't support H264. I tried several times, but without success. I'm using TVersity 1.6 and Vista Business. When I try to play a .mkv D-Link shows a popup with error "The request media content is no longer available". But If I look at Status, I see in section Streaming --> DLink DSM 510...
Is there a particular configuration to be done to play .mkv on 510?
Can you help me? Or which is the best format and bitrate to play HD on 510?
Title: Re: H.264 and MKV
Post by: droste on September 03, 2009, 01:41:55 PM
Same problem here. I read that using TVersity it can be possibile to watch file .mkv even with DSM-510, that natively doens't support H264. I tried several times, but without success. I'm using TVersity 1.6 and Vista Business. When I try to play a .mkv D-Link shows a popup with error "The request media content is no longer available". But If I look at Status, I see in section Streaming --> DLink DSM 510...
Is there a particular configuration to be done to play .mkv on 510?
Can you help me? Or which is the best format and bitrate to play HD on 510?

Yes, I have the same problem....sometimes tversity starts transcoding 1-2% and then d-link shows "The request media content is no longer available".
Is there any special setting?
Max
Title: Re: H.264 and MKV
Post by: droste on September 16, 2009, 11:27:20 PM
Ok, now with the new version of tversity it works, but...the audio is greatly distorced...

max
Title: Re: H.264 and MKV
Post by: manusz on November 24, 2009, 09:00:27 PM
Just because it supports mkv (nah, I'm kidding) I bought a nas (DNS-323), Now, can you tell me how to playback mkv files on my dsm-510???
Thanks,
Title: Re: H.264 and MKV
Post by: manusz on January 12, 2010, 07:50:51 AM
The DNS-323 UPnP AV media server support .mkv with its latest 1.08 beta code.

Thatīs a Lie, It isn't true.
If you read this tyhread for buying DSM-510 or DNS-323 Don't believe what I'm Quoting

Title: Re: H.264 and MKV
Post by: ECF on January 12, 2010, 02:51:57 PM
Thatīs a Lie, It isn't true.
If you read this tyhread for buying DSM-510 or DNS-323 Don't believe what I'm Quoting



No this function actually is not a lie and works great if you use a device such as the DSM-750 that support .mkv playback. It sees the files and plays them back just fine.
Title: Re: H.264 and MKV
Post by: manusz on January 13, 2010, 09:50:55 AM
No this function actually is not a lie and works great if you use a device such as the DSM-750 that support .mkv playback. It sees the files and plays them back just fine.

This Forum Is about DSM-510. You should post your answer on DSM-750 forum.
Title: Re: H.264 and MKV
Post by: ECF on January 13, 2010, 02:28:13 PM
Actually I think you should be posting about the DNS-323 UPnP AV media server not supporting .mkv in the DNS-323 forum if your going to think that way. I was simply trying to make it clear that the DSM-510 does not support .mkv that is why it will not play .mkv files, and yes if you do have mkv files you want to play on the DSM-510 it can be done if you use Tversity as your media server because it will trancode the mkv file on the fly to a format the DSM-510 supports so that the DSM-510 will recognize the file type and play the video.
Title: Re: H.264 and MKV
Post by: manusz on January 15, 2010, 10:44:34 AM
Actually I think you should be posting about the DNS-323 UPnP AV media server not supporting .mkv in the DNS-323 forum if your going to think that way. I was simply trying to make it clear that the DSM-510 does not support .mkv that is why it will not play .mkv files, and yes if you do have mkv files you want to play on the DSM-510 it can be done if you use Tversity as your media server because it will trancode the mkv file on the fly to a format the DSM-510 supports so that the DSM-510 will recognize the file type and play the video.

The DNS-323 UPnP AV media server support .mkv with its latest 1.08 beta code.
Dedfinition from WikiPedia: UPnP AV components
UPnP MediaServer DCP - which is the UPnP-server (a 'master' device) that provides media library information and streams media-data (like audio/video/picture/files) to UPnP-clients on the network.

I'm not going to keep on discussing on this matter. I believe the facts are quiet clear of what's going on.

Title: Re: H.264 and MKV
Post by: ECF on January 19, 2010, 08:54:20 AM
I am sorry but I do not get your point in the last post. I am clear to what a UPnP AV media server does and it should be clear of what's going on here. DNS-323 = .mkv support. DSM-510 = does not support .mkv so no .mkv playback ability...If using Tversity as your media server and the DSM-510 it will convert .mkv to mpeg on the fly so you can watch the video on the DSM-510...clear.
Title: Re: H.264 and MKV
Post by: DSM-User-MW on January 22, 2010, 09:47:17 PM
I hope all users of dsm do want this wireless Upnp to work well natively with MKV and other evolving formats including flvs....it seems that Dlink has found friends with free options of Tversity and Playon (those transcoders do take quality away) but as DLINK company, they have to evolve and support their products for future and make it as reliable as their wireless routers.....thats only going to happen with new firmware support as they have come out with new firmware for 750 with MKV support and extras.