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Author Topic: DAP1522 incompatible with almost all new Pioneer AVR's  (Read 30659 times)

FurryNutz

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Re: DAP1522 incompatible with almost all new Pioneer AVR's
« Reply #30 on: November 17, 2011, 07:14:58 AM »

Thank you. Is there any HW or FW version information for the AVR?
Have you been able to try my suggestion of moving the DAP and AVR to different connections?
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Re: DAP1522 incompatible with almost all new Pioneer AVR's
« Reply #31 on: November 18, 2011, 07:40:17 AM »

The AVR is the Pioneer vsx-1020k, with the original factory firmware.  Not aware of any upgrades or ways to install upgrades of the firmware on the receiver.
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Re: DAP1522 incompatible with almost all new Pioneer AVR's
« Reply #32 on: November 18, 2011, 07:50:43 AM »

Ok, I'll look into this AVR. Usually from my experience with Pioneer, unless it's a DVD or Blu ray player, most FW updates are done at an Auth. Svc center.

Let me know if you can try that configuration I mentioned.
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Re: DAP1522 incompatible with almost all new Pioneer AVR's
« Reply #33 on: January 03, 2012, 08:30:07 AM »

Any status on this?  ???
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Re: DAP1522 incompatible with almost all new Pioneer AVR's
« Reply #34 on: January 03, 2012, 08:39:32 AM »

Problem still occurs on any configuration.
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Re: DAP1522 incompatible with almost all new Pioneer AVR's
« Reply #35 on: January 03, 2012, 09:24:00 AM »

How about this configuration?
Host router>AVR
               >network switch><DAP ?

And to clarify once more, if you remove the DAP from the system, the AVR works and connect correctly to the host router?
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Re: DAP1522 incompatible with almost all new Pioneer AVR's
« Reply #36 on: January 04, 2012, 07:01:44 AM »

The AVR will connect to the network with the DAP in the system, but the AVR gets dropped after about 30 minutes.  Remove the DAP from the network, and the AVR remains connected.  I've tried all kinds of configurations, the problem persists no matter where the DAP and AVR are on the network.
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Re: DAP1522 incompatible with almost all new Pioneer AVR's
« Reply #37 on: January 04, 2012, 08:49:07 AM »

And how about testing out a new router to see if the problem persists? If the same thing happens when directly connected to a new router with DAP and AVR then will know more if it's a compatibility issue between 1522 and AVR. You can even go to places like Best buy or Staples that have a return refund policy for a new router. Just seeing if the router has any thing to do with this issue as well.

Any chance you have a friend or family member with a AVR with LAN support that you can barrow to see if a different AVR does the same thing? I would see if you can find someone or maybe a stereo shop that you could explain the situation to and barrow for a few days and see. If that exhibits the same thing then I would presume responsibility might fall to D-Link on this one.

Have you called Pioneer and talked to a 2nd Level tech or engineer to explain the problem? Might do the same with D-Link. I would also investigate trying a different model DAP, like a 1525 and see if the problem persists or not. If not, might be just a compatibility issue here on the 1522 and this particular AVR. It's got to be either Pioneer or D-Links issue here.

One thing I do know about Pioneer, they have a odd way of implementing certain things. My 47-TX I thought was great. Found out that Pioneer, for some reason, dropped all video offset signals by 5-10. Thus making any video going to my old MIT 50" projection t.v. and a different CRT tv not work using S-video at the time. Made the video look like it was being scrambled. Spent days trying to figure it out. Sent it to a Pioneer tech in Seattle and they said thats the way it's designed. I guess to work with there TV's and nothing else. I tested the same TVs out on my buddies Denon AVR and that worked. I wouldn't be surprised if Pioneer did something where as well. Not sure if they did or why though.


Let us know man. Here to help.
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Re: DAP1522 incompatible with almost all new Pioneer AVR's
« Reply #38 on: January 05, 2012, 08:27:34 AM »

I'm sorry, really don't have the time and resources to try all that right now.  However, you can find plenty of similar reports on this problem here and in the AVSForum threads.  Lots of different routers have been involved.  Basically, if a network uses the DAP-1522, and there is a Pioneer VSX-(x)20k receiver, where x is anything from 8 to 11, the internet radio function fails after 15 to 30 minutes, as the receiver appears to drop from the network.  Remove the DAP-1522 from the network and the receiver remains connected and internet radio works just fine.  It's as simple as that.

Lots of users have attempted explaining this to both Pioneer and DLink, and they have just said it is the other company's problem.  No one at either company has been willing to look at the problem.
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Re: DAP1522 incompatible with almost all new Pioneer AVR's
« Reply #39 on: January 05, 2012, 08:43:34 AM »

Any specific thread on the AVForum that we can look at? I'm on there as well.

Has any other DAP model seen this issue or has any other model been known to exhibit the same problem?

I guess if each company wont get involved then it's probably in your best interest to find alternative methods in using these products together or find alternate devices that don't have this compatibility issue.

Thanks for your time.

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Re: DAP1522 incompatible with almost all new Pioneer AVR's
« Reply #40 on: January 06, 2012, 09:53:39 AM »

Comes up in here:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1245449
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Re: DAP1522 incompatible with almost all new Pioneer AVR's
« Reply #41 on: January 06, 2012, 09:57:03 AM »

WOW, lot of posts there...Any specific post numbers or date time frames to review?
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Re: DAP1522 incompatible with almost all new Pioneer AVR's
« Reply #42 on: January 06, 2012, 10:02:21 AM »

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Re: DAP1522 incompatible with almost all new Pioneer AVR's
« Reply #43 on: January 06, 2012, 10:11:22 AM »

Post #1431 is interesting.

Wonder if this subnet would help out or adding a router to the mix.

I do agree with hartlenb on #1433 though on how the 1020 and 1522 play together. I would ask HarlenB on how exactly his is set up and if it's still working. Let us know what he says.
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