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Author Topic: I think my 4500 is not long for this world?  (Read 19669 times)

Fumz

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Re: I think my 4500 is not long for this world?
« Reply #15 on: June 01, 2014, 02:01:20 PM »

k, thanks.

1 last question. I know it shouldn't be the issue, but is it possible that what the kid is looking at on his iphone is the issue?

The nephew is 15. He's doing what every 15 year old does... which is mostly closing his windows as fast as he can when anyone walks by. I don't question him about that... cept for that one time the wife caught him looking at **** at the table, which sort of forced the issue... but since then he's been more secretive about his browsing habits.

I find it really odd that I can tap out my bandwidth all week with jdownloader, and nobody has a problem also browsing the web, but as soon as the kid comes over, something he's doing chokes the life out of the router?

If it's not browsing the ladies then a game perhaps? Some app left on in the background? If it helps, he's using an android.
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Re: I think my 4500 is not long for this world?
« Reply #16 on: June 01, 2014, 02:11:33 PM »

Ya i presume something he's doing. if this is a phone w cell service, you could run a test and block him from connecting to the router and have him surf the web using his cell phone signal and not your WiFi as a extreme action. You might ask him to be honest and have him show you what he's doing when this happens. I would see if something like video or a online game could be, however it shouldn't happen if you can get his phone in to a Mac Reserved IP address then set up a QoS rule with him and his sister in a low priority rule like 255, this should stop this. Just make sure he's not circumventing getting around the routers reservation with using a different IP address or doing something to avoid having the router mange the bandwidth if he's going to be using it.

One thing, your on a fairly low band width and speed for ISP. Depending on what you guys do, you may need to bump up the ISP speed package to the next level. You maybe hitting a upper threshold of devices and operations, where just your family, it works ok, however adding two more devices maybe putting you over the limits for this ISP package...Just a suggestion for now.
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Re: I think my 4500 is not long for this world?
« Reply #17 on: June 01, 2014, 05:04:41 PM »

... You might ask him to be honest and have him show you what he's doing when this happens... however it shouldn't happen if you can get his phone in to a Mac Reserved IP address then set up a QoS rule with him and his sister in a low priority rule like 255, this should stop this.

One thing, your on a fairly low band width and speed for ISP. Depending on what you guys do, you may need to bump up the ISP speed package to the next level. You maybe hitting a upper threshold of devices and operations, where just your family, it works ok, however adding two more devices maybe putting you over the limits for this ISP package...Just a suggestion for now.

We had a chat at the park today... mostly about how it was bad to lie to poor ole uncle Erick; we also touched on why teenagers are such bad liars. I will get you the info on the "what" specifically next time he does it. Currently I have him playing Tribes, and they're about to leave soon, so this thread will go dormant for a week or two.

Oddly, before we began this I had them both at 255. I was at 1, which I learned is bad too, but now that we're 50 (game), 128 (wife and other machines), and 200 (kids), this will hopefully be an issue that evaporates?

There's something else I thought of. It's possible his phone is using a lot of bandwidth in the background, above and beyond internet usage, that I hadn't considered yet... like all his apps that check the internet for random meaningless information... what kid needs to know the weather, right?

Unfortunately I can't get a higher tiered package. We live in San Francisco and the infrastructure here is just terrible. Sonic is trying to get fiber to us, but they're up against a city council that has a serious case of cranial rectumitis. Having said that, Sonic doesn't have a bandwidth cap; the speed anyone gets is what they can get according to their line. Some really lucky guys get 20mb; myself, 4.5, all for the same price.

Cable is out of the question. I used to work for Comcast. It's the first (and last) job I've ever had where I actually lost sleep and the first job I've ever quit. There are no other options... plus, Cable can't touch the flat rate of $59.00 after taxes for unlimited phone nationwide and Canada plus uncapped internet.

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Anyway, thanks again for all your time, your patience, and your help. It is much appreciated... and hey, if the determination is made that I "need" a 5500... well... I'm good with that too. I just need something official in writing I can hand to the wife. lol.
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Re: I think my 4500 is not long for this world?
« Reply #18 on: June 02, 2014, 06:59:51 AM »

Awe yes, the talk. LOL

Well hope things will work out. Should be good with those settings.

Understand about ISP issue. Ya, CC is not a well liked company right now. I'm glad they are not around here.

Well, keep us posted and visit if you need. I think we can consider this issue resolved for the most part.

We'll be around if you need more help and info. Hope it works good for you. It's a great router.

We'll see about if you need a new router sir. hehe.
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Re: I think my 4500 is not long for this world?
« Reply #19 on: June 05, 2014, 03:25:58 PM »

The niece came over last night as did a house guest. Unfortunately I was beat and didn't get a chance to take the opportunity to game/test. However, I did notice something odd looking at the router's dhcp list.

The niece's android is set with a reserved ip of .101, which we set last week with a priority of 255. In the list of dynamic clients I saw this morning, her android is also listed with an ip of .194?!

The only thing I can think of for this is that instead of using the computer's actual name I made it easy for myself and named them manually... eg, bekki's iphone, etc. However, since the mac address is the same, I can't see why this would matter? Her device should have been given the lowest priority, but it's not.
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Re: I think my 4500 is not long for this world?
« Reply #20 on: June 05, 2014, 03:34:35 PM »

You sure the phone is the same? Can you verify the MAC address on the phone with the one being displayed on the router? I'd go ahead and put that new IP address into the reserved list and then include in the priority list in GF.
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Re: I think my 4500 is not long for this world?
« Reply #21 on: June 05, 2014, 03:47:47 PM »



I'm fairly certain they didn't give the kids new phones. Anything could have happened though?
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Re: I think my 4500 is not long for this world?
« Reply #22 on: June 05, 2014, 04:03:57 PM »

Be sure the phone is set to automatic...someone could input a static IP address thus avoiding the reserved possibly...
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Re: I think my 4500 is not long for this world?
« Reply #23 on: June 05, 2014, 04:16:31 PM »

You wouldn't happen to know how I'd go about that? These kids are not what I would call tech savvy. I have a hard time believing she would enter an ip to bypass an ip; I'm fairly certain she doesn't even know what an ip is.
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Re: I think my 4500 is not long for this world?
« Reply #24 on: June 05, 2014, 04:47:20 PM »

I'd check the phone if you can...phones will have a networking section to configure. I presume that the configuration would be automatic and should be however you never know.

I am wondering since you reserved the phones IP already, the phone left the area and came back, why didn't the phone pick up the  .101 address.  ???

Run some tests with the phone by shutting it off or disabling the WiFi or networking. Turn the phone back on and check to see what the IP address it's getting...run this a few times. It should be getting the reserved IP address and nothing different.
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Re: I think my 4500 is not long for this world?
« Reply #25 on: June 08, 2014, 02:07:41 AM »

1 problem down; 1 to go.

Apparently I did not enter in Erin's ipod to the dhcp list; simple mistake, they're always on their iphones these days anyway. Also, she never takes it out of her bag, but it was still on and connecting when she brings it over.

This is very strange, but as soon as I entered in her ipod to the dhcp list her iphone stopped getting an ip it shouldn't have and everything seemed to be good.

Everything was fine until just now. My game connection, which had been running great, I didn't even notice them online, just got killed, with the yellow warning light through the network adapter icon in the taskbar. I came upstairs and John was sitting on the sofa on his iphone with "stuff" coming out of the speakers; I assumed it was something saved on the device. As usual, I could not get to the internet from this machine, and, as usual, I could not even enter the router.

This is where it get's really weird. I asked John what he was doing and he said watching youtube... Steven Wright to be exact. http://youtu.be/YD0KApiFdLg It was STILL playing as the rest of my machines were cut off?! I asked him to pause the video, gave the router a minute, but still couldn't connect, either to it or to the web. When I asked him to resume playing the video only then did he too get cut off and I had to reboot the router.
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Re: I think my 4500 is not long for this world?
« Reply #26 on: June 11, 2014, 08:15:54 AM »

Soon as I get home from vacation I'll help you out...  ;D
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