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The Graveyard - Products No Longer Supported => DGL-4500 => Routers / COVR => Beta code for the 4500 => Topic started by: FurryNutz on January 15, 2010, 11:09:38 PM
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So got a new build and for me on an A1 HW using Gaming and Game fuel rules and Wireless is set for N mode only at 2.4Ghz, I've been enjoying some good stable connections on my Xbox and MacBook Pro. No disconnects. House network system has been good too.
LAN STATISTICS
Sent :1313481
TX Packets Dropped :0
Collisions :0
Received :2748885
RX Packets Dropped :0
Errors :0
WAN STATISTICS
Sent :598051
TX Packets Dropped :0
Collisions :0
Received :5796294
RX Packets Dropped :0
Errors :0
WIRELESS STATISTICS
Sent :40193
TX Packets Dropped :369
Received :43576
RX Packets Dropped :164
Errors :36
I'm in about 15-20 feet away from the router in my office behind a closed door. I do like the low Packets Dropped and Error rates. 5Ghz is worse however been told using 5Ghz should be use in line of sight with out any obstructions so walls and doors will have more of an adverse affect while using 5Ghz. :-\ So i'm hanging with 2.4Ghz for now. So far, v1.22 seems very stable for me. Been up since last night. Played xbox for a couple of hours with out seeing any issues accept for one game with others that seem to be introducing lag. >:(Other then that, I'm happy. ;D
Any one else???? Let us know. ;)
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That's good to hear, i'm running 1.16 currently and have been reluctant to jump to the 1.2x series for fear of having all kinds of problems and not having the option to go back after seeing all of the posts recently about 1.21+ problems.
My current wireless config is the same, so i'm interested in seeing if your setup remains stable before I make the jump. :)
I want to get your professional ;) opinion, should I make the jump, or stick w/ 1.16 beta?
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My professional optinion would be that if your router is working well in all areas. I would keep it like that. Your not missing out on much of anything. I've always tired to keep that rule if possible. However if you think you like to make the jump then sure, go for it. Yes you can't go back to prior 1.2x once your up. Been very happy with 1.22 and seems a lot more stable. 5Ghz still needs some work and boost. Getting a lot of errors and dropped packets if i'm more than 10 feet away from the router. 5Ghz is short band waves and any obstructions like walls and doors have an effect on the signal from what I've been told. Better for line of site kinda thing. Im enjoying sitting here in the living room on my MacBook Pro on N mode only at 2.4Ghz.
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Yeah, I had an uptime of somewhere around 120 days on 1.16 beta since I last rebooted the router, until I turned the wireless on 2 days ago.
I have a Buffalo router running "Tomato" firmware that's acting as just an AP, but it only supports B/G wireless.
I want to use the N only mode on the DGL-4500 but the last time I tried it on 1.16 beta, it didn't seem to be too much of an improvement streaming 1080p mkv video from an internal home server that's connected via gigabit ethernet to the 4500 and being viewed on three N-capable notebooks, so I turned it back off and continued using the buffalo AP.
Did you notice an improvement in N speeds from 1.1x to 1.2x?
Thanks for all the help, it's very much appreciated. :)
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You might ask others on here if they've seen any speeds improvements going from 1.1x to 1.2x. I didn't start using the Wireless on the 4500 until i got my MacBook Pro for my birthday. I had been using a Apple Airport to hand my b/g devices so I had the 4500 Wifi shut off and FW was already at 1.21 by the time I figured out that my MBP had N capabilities. Sorry I can't off more info. Working on N only at 2.4Ghz seems really good. I think they could possibly up the range a bit more and do hope they can and possibly get the 5Ghz working better too. The speed on the 2.4Ghz is pretty good. I'm currently running 2.4Ghz N mode only. Seems really good and stable. I can transfer a 240Mb file from my wired file server in my office to my LT sitting here in the living room. Taking about 2-3mins. Seeing 1-3Mb transfer speeds. Using 5Ghz I was seeing speeds up to 7Mbs. But there were more dropped packets and errors. I was in the bedroom next to the office when I was doing this, with in 8ft. If I was in the living room, 15-20 ft away from the router, the speeds dropped and sometimes the transfer would not complete.
I think also streaming heavy 1080p video streams is not going to be perfect. Wireless is really at the stage, IMO, to handle large data or bandwidth right now. It's hard enough making sure that XBL users work well over WiFi connections giving the data, voice that needs processing. LOL. Hope someday WiFi will be robust enough to handle most anything.
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Yeah, the 1080p video works, its just that there might be a tiny albeit annoying hiccup in playback once every minute or two for less than a quarter of a second, but it's still enough where it's annoying.
I'm hoping with tweaking, I can get it stable w/o any interruptions.
The stream itself only takes about 25MB/sec max, so it's not the bandwidth, it's the stability of the connection itself.
The following are the stats I got w/ N Only, WISH enabled, doing a little web surfing and streaming a few videos for half an hour last night on 1.16 beta.
LAN Statistics
Sent : 1414837
TX Packets Dropped : 10
Collisions : 0
Received : 3449746
RX Packets Dropped : 0
Errors : 0
WAN Statistics
Sent : 433375
TX Packets Dropped : 0
Collisions : 0
Received : 534153
RX Packets Dropped : 0
Errors : 0
Wireless Statistics
Sent : 3201465
TX Packets Dropped : 1678
Received : 979954
RX Packets Dropped : 1528
Errors : 75
I think i'll give 1.22 a shot later this weekend or next.
Yeah, XBL users' connections really stink as is, I have my 360 hooked up wired, same w/ my gaming PC and PS3.
Thanks again for the info!
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Furry, over how many days did you use the new beta before reporting here? If the dropped packets have been reduced, I'm going to upgrade tonight.
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Firmware Version :1.22NA, 2009/12/23
Connection Up Time :2 Day 0 Hour 11 Min 01 Sec
WIRELESS STATISTICS
Sent :5253
TX Packets Dropped :32
Received :4234
RX Packets Dropped :397
Errors :0
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oh duh! thanks.
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let us know how it works out for you.
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I can't say I can agree with this, with all the frustration I went and bought a netgear WNDR3700 router. I'm connected on wireless N 5Ghz and running no problems through 7 walls in the house from where the router is and the location of my notebook.
I would have to say something is still not right with the wireless unless you have huge interference in your area.
On the DLink routers, 5 GHz seems to work best with LoS and outdoors. Not so much for indoors for some reason. My guess it's just the radio. I've had the 4500 for over a couple of years now, and it's never been stable on 5 GHz no matter how close or far I've been from the router.
As far as the FW goes, I've always done my normal battery of testing on it. I flashed it about 21 hours ago, and it seems to be stable. No reboots yet, and wireless seems MUCH more stable. I've yet to do some full transfers of 2GB+ from wired Gb to my Wireless N MBP.
It does seem more responsive for sure, and DNS relay seems to be working as intended. However, I am still having some problems with UPnP, and noticing a decrease in speed on the upload portion.
Update: I thought I'd try to run some of the GameFuel settings, as I took them off previously due to router load perhaps, which caused crashing. I set up the rules as normal, however I had a problem where after inputting 1 rule, and clicking reboot later, and starting to setup another rule and hitting save would kick me out to the login screen. Can this get looked at?
I also noticed that after about 5 minutes of inactivity, it will kick you as well. There used to be an option where you could specify the idle timeout, which brought you back to the login as well. It seems to have disappeared. Any reason as to why?
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OK... I was pointed here about this latest fw load. I still do not see a list of "fixes" from Dlink.
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so is this new beta working or not???
please post results
I'm back to my old Router wont go back to the 4500
till all problems are fixed
thank you
Dalmo
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What currently loaded on your 4500 now?
Been pretty happy with v1.22 so far on my A1 HW.
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I started having problems w/ Wireless N on FW 1.16 beta on A1 hardware, clients would drop out and would reconnect in about 1 minute. This happened on both 2.4 and 5GHz.
I upgraded to 1.22 B02 last night, and so far so good, and the lack of lost packets/errors is really amazing! ;D
I'm using 5GHz WPA2 only w/ AES, Gamefuel on, WISH and WiFi Protected Setup off.
Firmware Version : 1.22NA, 2009/12/23
Connection Up Time : 0 Day 10 Hour 41 Min 07 Sec
LAN Statistics
Sent :2896416
TX Packets Dropped :3
Collisions :0
Received :5764664
RX Packets Dropped :0
Errors :0
WAN Statistics
Sent :104097
TX Packets Dropped :0
Collisions :0
Received :189754
RX Packets Dropped :0
Errors :0
Wireless Statistics
Sent :5910459
TX Packets Dropped :361
Received :2948388
RX Packets Dropped :0
Errors :0
I really haven't stressed it with gaming/downloading/wireless yet, but I should know by today or tomorrow evening if this build is stable. If I run into any problems, i'll let you guys know. :)
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I'm still getting a ton of wireless errors on my A1. So in my opinion, it feels the same as the 1.21NA B08. I never had a problem with reboots on 1.21NA B08 so we'll see how this goes.
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After the upgrade, when it wiped the configuration did you reload a config file or did you manually reenter your settings? Try manually entering everything instead of using the configuration file (maybe its corrupt or has some bad settings)... take a screenshot of all your open ports, gaming settings, internet config before you do so.
What settings are you using for wireless, are you specifying a specific channel or allowing it to scan?
There's always the possibility that your environment is causing the errors?
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Also, after upgrading the FW, you need to perform a Factory restore to defaults. Do some minor changes to the WiFi if you need that going initially. What modes are you using? I'm currently set up for N mode only at 2.4Ghz. There are low drops and very few errors running v1.22. The drops and error rates do go up when using 5Ghz on N mode only. I have been advised to use 2.4Ghz as it is capable of going thru walls and doors better than the 5Ghz.
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I was on 1.16 with A2 hardware. For the last few weeks I have been using a Linksys WRT54G v2.2 with DD-WRT on it as even 1.16 seemed to have problems after being up for quite a while. But overall fairly stable. I may go ahead and make the jump to the 1.2x with the Dlink to see how it runs knowing I can go back to the trusty DD-WRT if needed.
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Just be sure to not use the v1.21NA on the main DLink web site, get the Beta v1.22 02.
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So far i've had to turn off the Advanced DNS feature, as nice as it sounds, it caused slow page loads, many times requiring a refresh of the page to get it to load, unfortunately turning it off required a reboot of the router.
Wireless is still stable otherwise.
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What currently loaded on your 4500 now?
Been pretty happy with v1.22 so far on my A1 HW.
Beta 08 nothing but headaches
Went back to my reliable Linksys
So you have no issue's with the new Beta? hows your WI-FE
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Been good here, low drops and errors. Im using N mode only on 2.4 Ghz. Playing XBL right now.
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how about the VPN?
can someone test it?
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So far i've had to turn off the Advanced DNS feature, as nice as it sounds, it caused slow page loads, many times requiring a refresh of the page to get it to load, unfortunately turning it off required a reboot of the router.
Wireless is still stable otherwise.
unfortunately my websites are loading slow too with 1.22. yesterday i switched from 1.21 to the new beta. i'll keep an eye on it don't want to reboot again. but it looks like i have to.
uptime 12 hours after firmware upgrade.
should i turn off advanced dns feature? did that help?
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I have recommended, setup other 4500s with this feature being turned on. 1. For gamer, i.e. XBL, it will not let the xboxes connect to there servers properly. I don't use it on my 4500. Been using v1.22 for 5 days now.
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Turning off Advanced DNS DEFINITELY helped with the slow loading of websites, I don't have to refresh multiple times to get the page to load.
Advanced DNS basically sends your page requests and it's checked by a third party that verifies it's a legitimate site, and if not, stops you or fixes typos, etc.
That part is what slows it down apparantly.
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Is your DNS Relay on or off? Mines currently on. Sometimes that can have a impact however shouldn't anymore.
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It's currently on, with the advanced DNS feature off, i've stopped having slow web browsing problems.
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Yaaaaay ;)
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Yup, so far so good :)
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installed the firmware last night was up for roughly 12 hours and died failed to auto reconnect so i had manauly tell the router to connect other then that i gain .10 of MB connection on both lan and wireless both speeds are pretty identical. at 2.87 wireless 2.88 lan i pay for a 3MB connection will keep posted if router goes out again i just think it was because i didn't do a hardboot after appling my config file
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Its recommended to apply the FW updated, reboot, reset Factory settings. Do a quick speed test. Then apply your saved Configuration File.
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After the upgrade, when it wiped the configuration did you reload a config file or did you manually reenter your settings? Try manually entering everything instead of using the configuration file (maybe its corrupt or has some bad settings)... take a screenshot of all your open ports, gaming settings, internet config before you do so.
What settings are you using for wireless, are you specifying a specific channel or allowing it to scan?
There's always the possibility that your environment is causing the errors?
The funny thing is that it didn't wipe any of my settings when i upgraded the firmware which thought was wierd. Long ago, I figured out that setting my channel to 7 allows me faster download and upload speeds in my particular area of the world so I do not allow it to scan. There is some distance between the houses on my street but there's definitly something in my area causing some friction with the wireless signals around here. For the most part, my wireless has been stable since setting it to CH 7.
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Hello all. New 4500 user here and severley disappointed. I bought the router about 1.5 weeks ago from newegg and installed it upon receiving it. I noticed that the performance was slow out of the box so I upgraded to the newest posted firmware on the site. All was good, for about 3 days. (Now I know I shouldn't have upgraded it). But anyway, I came on here looking for help and found the beta firmwares and thought I had found hope in this new beauty of a router. Was I wrong. Just shy of 2.5 days uptime, the router decided to reboot itself yet again. I followed all the rules on here posted by fellow members, and still have no luck whatsoever with this router. I had my wireless set to G only (as I have no N devices), WEP protection due to my mothers old laptop card, had 1 gamerfuel rule in there for BF2, DNS Relay was off, Advanced DNS was off, and as was extended wireless protection (or whatever it was called). So my question here is this.... if I return this router to newegg, and order the 4100 and use my current AP for my wireless needs, will I have all these troubles that the 4500 is plagued with?
The beta I was using was 1.22b02 just as a heads up.
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Hello all. New 4500 user here and severley disappointed. I bought the router about 1.5 weeks ago from newegg and installed it upon receiving it. I noticed that the performance was slow out of the box so I upgraded to the newest posted firmware on the site. All was good, for about 3 days. (Now I know I shouldn't have upgraded it). But anyway, I came on here looking for help and found the beta firmwares and thought I had found hope in this new beauty of a router. Was I wrong. Just shy of 2.5 days uptime, the router decided to reboot itself yet again. I followed all the rules on here posted by fellow members, and still have no luck whatsoever with this router. I had my wireless set to G only (as I have no N devices), WEP protection due to my mothers old laptop card, had 1 gamerfuel rule in there for BF2, DNS Relay was off, Advanced DNS was off, and as was extended wireless protection (or whatever it was called). So my question here is this.... if I return this router to newegg, and order the 4100 and use my current AP for my wireless needs, will I have all these troubles that the 4500 is plagued with?
What happens if you turn DNS relay back on? I have setup several other 4500s with this option ON. What HW version do you have? I presume A2? I have A1 and beta v1.22 has been up for 8 days now solid. Please check out the following link for some additional setup options.
http://forums.dlink.com/index.php?topic=10435.0 (http://forums.dlink.com/index.php?topic=10435.0)
Let us know if you need some help. Willing to help you out as much as I can.
The beta I was using was 1.22b02 just as a heads up.
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I did the 1.22 2 days ago when I discovered I had a reboot after 40+ days on 1.21 08.
I'll hold my breath but it seems OK for now.
Speakeasy test to closest site:
Download Speed: 18901 kbps (2362.6 KB/sec transfer rate)
Upload Speed: 3962 kbps (495.3 KB/sec transfer rate)
WiFi G laptop on battery, 1 floor above router. I am on a 16Mb cable modem...
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A2 Hardware. Moved from 1.16 up to this beta. Things were going ok but noticed when I just logged on that I had a reboot or at least a connection reset. Looks like a reboot from the log though.
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6 days up with settings on default. websites are loading properly now. didn't change anything but seems to be alright now. i'm happy. good beta
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Kewl beans. Glad its working. How about for some tweaking now? :P
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Tired of messing around with D-Link and all the broken promises? Want to roll your
dgl-4500 firmware back to 1.15 right now? The two links below have the fix. This
is not a joke. It works. Both sites are very reputable and people have tested it.
http://www.ispgeeks.com/wild/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=4224#15926
and
http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r23720820-downgrade-possible-DGL4500-12xNA115
Follow the simple instructions and tell d-link where to stuff it.
Christmas was a little late this year but better late than never!
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v1.22NA is working great. ;D