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Re: Problem with Nest Cam's
« Reply #15 on: October 12, 2017, 02:32:40 PM »

There around 50,  8 are probably Ethernet.  the fimware is 1.01
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Re: Problem with Nest Cam's
« Reply #16 on: October 12, 2017, 02:35:34 PM »

I have a 6 bedroom house and everything from smoke detectors, thermostats, tvs, computer, light switches...etc.  lol
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Re: Problem with Nest Cam's
« Reply #17 on: October 12, 2017, 02:44:48 PM »

Ok, hears the deal, you maybe running into a bandwidth limit on the COVR with having more than 20 devices connected to the COVR. That many device then trying to connect and maintain 6 additional cameras that are using medium to high bandwidth depending upon video quality your using is probably driving the COVR past it's limits in regards to how many wireless devices and bandwidth it can handle. You would need to disconnect or turn OFF ALL other devices from the COVR router, then connect say 3 to start, cameras to the COVR router and see if the problem continues or not. Generally most home class routers can only handle from 20 est active wireless connections at a time, any more then that you need to off load connections using other APs like your ONHUB using it as a wireless AP, LAN to LAN.

I for one have 3 cameras and 3 NEST Thermostats connected to my COVR system, however total devices would be around 10-15, all others are wired LAN devices.

If the problem continues with just the 3 and 6 cameras connected to the COVR system, then I presume there could be an issue between the COVR system and NEST cameras that need to be reviewed by both parties. I saw this issue couple of years ago with a different router Mfr and NEST Thermostats.  ::)
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Re: Problem with Nest Cam's
« Reply #18 on: October 12, 2017, 03:02:27 PM »

Honestly most HOME wireless routers can handle realistically around 15 devices (wirelessly). Remember that wireless is shared bandwidth. Cameras use a lot of it, especially if transmitting video. You may want to get an additional access point (not range extender) and split up your network.

MU-MIMO is on the extender. I believe it is 2x2 though. I will have to double-check the specs.

Are the nest cameras on 2.4GHz or 5GHz (when it drops from COVR)?
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Re: Problem with Nest Cam's
« Reply #19 on: October 16, 2017, 11:08:43 AM »

Ok, hears the deal, you maybe running into a bandwidth limit on the COVR with having more than 20 devices connected to the COVR. That many device then trying to connect and maintain 6 additional cameras that are using medium to high bandwidth depending upon video quality your using is probably driving the COVR past it's limits in regards to how many wireless devices and bandwidth it can handle. You would need to disconnect or turn OFF ALL other devices from the COVR router, then connect say 3 to start, cameras to the COVR router and see if the problem continues or not. Generally most home class routers can only handle from 20 est active wireless connections at a time, any more then that you need to off load connections using other APs like your ONHUB using it as a wireless AP, LAN to LAN.

I for one have 3 cameras and 3 NEST Thermostats connected to my COVR system, however total devices would be around 10-15, all others are wired LAN devices.

If the problem continues with just the 3 and 6 cameras connected to the COVR system, then I presume there could be an issue between the COVR system and NEST cameras that need to be reviewed by both parties. I saw this issue couple of years ago with a different router Mfr and NEST Thermostats.  ::)

Nest cameras only use about 0.5 MBPS, that is a problem?
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Re: Problem with Nest Cam's
« Reply #20 on: October 16, 2017, 11:11:24 AM »

I thought the Covr would have more capable than the google wifi setup I was using, but I guess not.
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Re: Problem with Nest Cam's
« Reply #21 on: October 16, 2017, 11:19:23 AM »

Most home class wifi routers can only handle 15-20 devices online at the same time. If you have 50 devices, this will be over loading of the router and thus I presume you'll be seeing these disconnections. Googles wifi was probably doing the same thing if you were using the 50 devices as well.

To off load band width loading of devices of this amount, you would need to install another AP or two and sparse connecting your devices across these APs for good and optimal operation and performance. I have additional two APs in my house.
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Re: Problem with Nest Cam's
« Reply #22 on: October 16, 2017, 11:28:31 AM »

A lot of those devices barely use date for example 10 are nest smoke detectors which only check in ever so often, not continuous streams.  The 6 nest cams are using a total of 0.10 Down and 2.1 up.
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Re: Problem with Nest Cam's
« Reply #23 on: October 16, 2017, 11:33:16 AM »

Most likely it's still a connection with the devices and the router. Regardless of bandwidth.

To really tests this, you'll need to disconnect and turn OFF all devices connected to the COVR and then set up just the cameras to see if they alone are working with the COVR router or not. I better way would be to change the SSID name on the COVR router then set up the cameras for the new SSID name and test.
I haven't seen any issues with my COVR with all of my devices connected including 3 cameras and two NEST thermostats however again, maybe 15-20 wireless devices connected at any time.

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Re: Problem with Nest Cam's
« Reply #24 on: October 17, 2017, 12:11:19 AM »

I get your point, but I have never picked up a router box and seen a device limit printed on it.  Seems like in this day and age, the more you pay for a router, the more issues you have.  I guess the bottom line is I bought and tried it, but it just didn't work for me.  I have beta tested many devices and they should have chose me for this one.  Good luck you guys, but I can't continue with this, since there is a return period.
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Re: Problem with Nest Cam's
« Reply #25 on: October 17, 2017, 09:23:18 AM »

Good Luck in your endeavours.
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Re: Problem with Nest Cam's
« Reply #26 on: January 23, 2018, 10:39:26 AM »

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Re: Problem with Nest Cam's
« Reply #27 on: January 25, 2018, 11:07:20 AM »

Camera's continue to disconnect.  Static IP's set and Extender not in use.
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Re: Problem with Nest Cam's
« Reply #28 on: January 25, 2018, 11:13:09 AM »

Wonder if there is a problem with NEST cameras and this router. My NEST Controllers are working.  ???

I presume that these cameras work with your other routers you've tested?
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Re: Problem with Nest Cam's
« Reply #29 on: January 25, 2018, 03:27:21 PM »

It is likely the type of beamforming the router uses.  implicit beamforming caused problems with nest and the Netgear Orbi, but it could be turned off as a workaround.
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