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Title: DLINK please help !!!
Post by: historypsi on August 15, 2009, 06:19:38 PM
DLink,

I have a DIR-655 with Securespot turned on. Here is my problem, I am running the final version of Windows 7 from my MSDN. And surfing the web is painfully slow for some sites and others won't load. This isn't the routers problem, BUT it is an issue with the "D-link SecureSpot thin client" in the network adapters properties. I when I unchecked it on both my wifes and my computer the web was amazingly fast again. My question to you is where or who do I contact to have this looked into so that a thin client released for Windows 7 can be made and that this issue is fixed?

Thanks!
Title: Re: DLINK please help !!!
Post by: smlunatick on August 15, 2009, 07:01:20 PM
The magor problem is the fact that Windows 7 was not yet been released for normal sales.  It is due to go on sale around October 22.  Until then, Windows 7 software support will be "spotty."
Title: Re: DLINK please help !!!
Post by: historypsi on August 15, 2009, 07:06:15 PM
Yeah I know. But I was atleast hoping to get them additional information so that they'd be able to have it fixed by release.
Title: Re: DLINK please help !!!
Post by: jason1722x on August 15, 2009, 07:22:09 PM
http://www.dlink.com/press/?prid=525

My problem is Dlink has put SecureSpot into the firmware, it's doesn't belong. My feelings is that it is a response to Linksys Network Magic. Altough to my knowledge Linksys has not yet integrated Network Magic into the firmware. I think if Dlink released it as aftermaket software or bundled it with their routers it would be better as it has nothing to do with router functions.
Title: Re: DLINK please help !!!
Post by: historypsi on August 15, 2009, 07:40:03 PM
Actually, it does have to do with the router in a hardware aspect. It turns it into content filtering solution at the hardware level that will work on anything that connects to your network that may not be able to load the thin client. And it does the work so that the thin client can be just that, lean. That way your machine is not bogged down by bloatware. On the other hand, it also downloads definitions to your router while securespot is enabled to make it a more effective firewall. So it really is a good service. And I've used network magic. And its only good for it's network mapping features if you ask me. I noticed the link you posted. That's not my issue. My issue is with the thin client. The router is fine with Windows 7.
Title: Re: DLINK please help !!!
Post by: jason1722x on August 15, 2009, 10:23:41 PM
Actually, it does have to do with the router in a hardware aspect. It turns it into content filtering solution at the hardware level that will work on anything that connects to your network that may not be able to load the thin client. And it does the work so that the thin client can be just that, lean. That way your machine is not bogged down by bloatware. On the other hand, it also downloads definitions to your router while securespot is enabled to make it a more effective firewall. So it really is a good service. And I've used network magic. And its only good for it's network mapping features if you ask me. I noticed the link you posted. That's not my issue. My issue is with the thin client. The router is fine with Windows 7.
Well there maybe be the problem with the slow speed, your asking the chipset @ the hardware level to monitor content live as it's streaming to the router and your computer. For info only check out the amount of resources on just your computer "cpu usage" and Networking "local area connection" by hitting ctrl-alt-delete. I don't use securespot but just want to see how much of a footprint this "thin client" has. Since "Task Manager" is live you can toggle back and fourth to see the difference.
Now how much resources is the router using with it's chipset, memory etc..
Now remember the router still has other "network functions" running, sounds like bloatware to me.
Title: Re: DLINK please help !!!
Post by: KevTech on August 15, 2009, 11:01:06 PM
Part of the thin client is also McAfee(R) Anti-Virus and Anti-Spyware engine according to LINK (http://www.reuters.com/article/pressRelease/idUS100746+12-Feb-2008+MW20080212).
This may explain your slowdown.

You could try turning off IPv6 on your adapter.

Can't you just use the access controls/website filters in the router or setup the Hosts file?
Title: Re: DLINK please help !!!
Post by: jason1722x on August 15, 2009, 11:56:04 PM
Part of the thin client is also McAfee(R) Anti-Virus and Anti-Spyware engine according to LINK (http://www.reuters.com/article/pressRelease/idUS100746+12-Feb-2008+MW20080212).
This may explain your slowdown.

You could try turning off IPv6 on your adapter.

Can't you just use the access controls/website filters in the router or setup the Hosts file?
McAfee...don't that just make you feel all fuzzy inside.  ;D
Title: Re: DLINK please help !!!
Post by: historypsi on August 16, 2009, 04:42:40 AM
Well there maybe be the problem with the slow speed, your asking the chipset @ the hardware level to monitor content live as it's streaming to the router and your computer. For info only check out the amount of resources on just your computer "cpu usage" and Networking "local area connection" by hitting ctrl-alt-delete. I don't use securespot but just want to see how much of a footprint this "thin client" has. Since "Task Manager" is live you can toggle back and fourth to see the difference.
Now how much resources is the router using with it's chipset, memory etc..
Now remember the router still has other "network functions" running, sounds like bloatware to me.

There is no footprint left. I know exactly what you're talking about and I've asked this very same chipset to do this since the 1.2x firmware that enabled securespot. This is strickly a windows 7 issue. I had this running without issue on Vista with IE 7 and 8.
Title: Re: DLINK please help !!!
Post by: historypsi on August 16, 2009, 04:46:32 AM
McAfee...don't that just make you feel all fuzzy inside.  ;D
Actually McAfee is a pretty big name now a days. They now own the most successful firewall out there, Sidewinder who was owned previously by Secure Computing. They also bought out Blue Coat who is a hardware proxy company. So yeah, it doesn't bother me one bit. I've worked on those products for quite a few years now and they are among the best you can get. And beside the fact that the DoD dropped Symantec for McAfee doesn't hurt either. So what's your point?
Title: Re: DLINK please help !!!
Post by: historypsi on August 16, 2009, 04:48:40 AM
Part of the thin client is also McAfee(R) Anti-Virus and Anti-Spyware engine according to LINK (http://www.reuters.com/article/pressRelease/idUS100746+12-Feb-2008+MW20080212).
This may explain your slowdown.

You could try turning off IPv6 on your adapter.

Can't you just use the access controls/website filters in the router or setup the Hosts file?

Not the issue, I'm using IPv4 on my adapter, and I turned off access controls completely before I found what the issue is. It's literally "D-Link SecureSpot thin client". As long as it's not running on my NIC there isn't a issue.
Title: Re: DLINK please help !!!
Post by: jason1722x on August 16, 2009, 05:17:31 AM
Actually McAfee is a pretty big name now a days. They now own the most successful firewall out there, Sidewinder who was owned previously by Secure Computing. They also bought out Blue Coat who is a hardware proxy company. So yeah, it doesn't bother me one bit. I've worked on those products for quite a few years now and they are among the best you can get. And beside the fact that the DoD dropped Symantec for McAfee doesn't hurt either. So what's your point?
My point in my opinion McAfee is c-r-a-p. Your opinion of-course is different.
Hey if McAfee makes you feel secure it's your network. Thank god the DoD has multi layer defense and encryption.
Title: Re: DLINK please help !!!
Post by: historypsi on August 16, 2009, 06:24:33 AM
My point in my opinion McAfee is c-r-a-p. Your opinion of-course is different.
Hey if McAfee makes you feel secure it's your network. Thank god the DoD has multi layer defense and encryption.
Sorry if I came off wrong on that. But to each their own right? As far as DoD or anyone for that matter, your network is only as strong as your technicians. You can have the greatest or worst software/hardware in the world but if you don't have the talent and knowledge to back it up then it's bound to be owned.

 But right now I just need to find out who I can notify or how to notify them of this issue so they can have it compliant by the time Windows 7 drops in the nearest Best Buy or whatever. I can handle the thin client turned off until then as I have other means to secure my clients.

Again, sorry if I came off rude on that.
Title: Re: DLINK please help !!!
Post by: KevTech on August 16, 2009, 09:54:39 AM
My point in my opinion McAfee is c-r-a-p. Your opinion of-course is different.
Hey if McAfee makes you feel secure it's your network. Thank god the DoD has multi layer defense and encryption.

That was the point I was trying to make. I have had to repair a lot of pc's where the fix was removing McAfee and the systems flew after that.
Title: Re: DLINK please help !!!
Post by: KevTech on August 16, 2009, 10:00:18 AM
But right now I just need to find out who I can notify or how to notify them of this issue so they can have it compliant by the time Windows 7 drops in the nearest Best Buy or whatever.

I am not sure I understand what you want.
Windows 7 or any OS has nothing to do with the router.
I have been using Windows 7 since the first beta and am using the RTM right now with no isuues from the DIR-655.
Unless you are talking about Securespot which would probably not work on 7 as most antivirus for 7 are still in the beta stages. This includes McAfee.
Title: Re: DLINK please help !!!
Post by: jason1722x on August 16, 2009, 10:16:25 AM
Sorry if I came off wrong on that. But to each their own right? As far as DoD or anyone for that matter, your network is only as strong as your technicians. You can have the greatest or worst software/hardware in the world but if you don't have the talent and knowledge to back it up then it's bound to be owned.

 But right now I just need to find out who I can notify or how to notify them of this issue so they can have it compliant by the time Windows 7 drops in the nearest Best Buy or whatever. I can handle the thin client turned off until then as I have other means to secure my clients.

Again, sorry if I came off rude on that.
Nah you wasn't rude. But to each their own.
Title: Re: DLINK please help !!!
Post by: historypsi on August 16, 2009, 10:18:41 AM
I am not sure I understand what you want.
Windows 7 or any OS has nothing to do with the router.
I have been using Windows 7 since the first beta and am using the RTM right now with no isuues from the DIR-655.
Unless you are talking about Securespot which would probably not work on 7 as most antivirus for 7 are still in the beta stages. This includes McAfee.
I am not talking about the router. As stated in previous posts, it's the "D-Link SecureSpot thin client" that is installed on the NIC. If you go to the NIC's property that shows "Configure" and the list with the whole IPv6 and IPv4, TCP/IP.....there is a "D-Link SecureSpot thin client" in that list. This is what i'm talking about, you uncheck it, it works. I too am using the RTM from my Microsoft MSDN. This is a Windows 7 issue. As I had XP and Vista with IE 7 and 8 installed on this very same laptop before with the "D-Link SecureSpot thin client" running without issue. This is only happening on my Windows 7 machines. And my statement about the Windows 7 release was, that I wanted them to have the "D-Link SecureSpot thin client" fixed before the official release date arrives so people aren't in the same boat as myself. This is strickly an issue with "D-Link SecureSpot thin client" that is applied to the NIC.
Title: Re: DLINK please help !!!
Post by: jason1722x on August 16, 2009, 10:18:57 AM
I am not sure I understand what you want.
Windows 7 or any OS has nothing to do with the router.
I have been using Windows 7 since the first beta and am using the RTM right now with no isuues from the DIR-655.
Unless you are talking about Securespot which would probably not work on 7 as most antivirus for 7 are still in the beta stages. This includes McAfee.
He is talking about the client that Dlink has to interface with Securespot, not the router.
Title: Re: DLINK please help !!!
Post by: KevTech on August 16, 2009, 05:04:13 PM
Well I just tried it on my Win 7 and everything works ok.

Maybe your adapter does not like the driver or maybe it is because I run on the administrator account which makes UAC mute/void.

I do not know.  :-\
Title: Re: DLINK please help !!!
Post by: historypsi on August 16, 2009, 06:07:15 PM
Well I just tried it on my Win 7 and everything works ok.

Maybe your adapter does not like the driver or maybe it is because I run on the administrator account which makes UAC mute/void.

I do not know.  :-\

Can't be, I just loaded back to Vista and it works....and I just got an email from bsecure stating they weren't compliant yet.
Title: Re: DLINK please help !!!
Post by: KevTech on August 16, 2009, 06:56:08 PM
Can't be, I just loaded back to Vista and it works....and I just got an email from bsecure stating they weren't compliant yet.

How do you know it did not work on my system?

I installed the software in Vista compatibility mode and it worked just fine.  ;D

Now I will uninstall it and turn off Securespot as I justed wanted to see for myself if it was really an issue affecting all people or perhaps just you.
Title: Re: DLINK please help !!!
Post by: historypsi on August 17, 2009, 05:23:52 PM
How do you know it did not work on my system?

I installed the software in Vista compatibility mode and it worked just fine.  ;D

Now I will uninstall it and turn off Securespot as I justed wanted to see for myself if it was really an issue affecting all people or perhaps just you.

Thats how I installed it as well, in fact it's the only way it will. And you bought securespot just to try this out? Besides, like I said it worked before on my wifes EeePC and my Dell with XP and Vista. Loaded 7 fresh(no upgrading) and it didn't work.

And how many websites did you try? Some loaded without a hitch, some just crawled and others wouldn't load at all.

If you'd really like to give it a go, try Newegg which was one of the problem sites for me. Just try about 20 sites here and there and you'll see the difference.
Title: Re: DLINK please help !!!
Post by: KevTech on August 17, 2009, 06:56:52 PM
And you bought securespot just to try this out?

Free Trial
I just wonder if this has anything to do with the adapter you have.

I have an Intel PRO/1000 PT (http://www.intel.com/products/desktop/adapters/pro1000pt/pro1000pt-overview.htm)

Edit: What browser are you using?

I use IE8
Title: Re: DLINK please help !!!
Post by: historypsi on August 18, 2009, 04:26:50 AM
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I just wonder if this has anything to do with the adapter you have.

I have an Intel PRO/1000 PT (http://www.intel.com/products/desktop/adapters/pro1000pt/pro1000pt-overview.htm)

Edit: What browser are you using?

I use IE8

As stated before I've used IE 7 and 8 with XP and Vista and it worked fine. And of course with Win7 I use IE 8.