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The Graveyard - Products No Longer Supported => D-Link Storage => DNS-323 => Topic started by: Cliff on June 09, 2010, 02:54:55 PM
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I have a dns-323 with 2 1TB drives. They are NOT raided. I want to upgrade one of the drives to a 2TB.
I shut down the box, popped out the left side and replaced it with the 2TB. Started it up and formatted the new 2TB drive.
Then I shut down the box, and replaced the original 1 TB. Now the drives are not accessible and the box thinks it has to format the 1TB drive.
I truly would prefer to not lose the data on this drive. Any suggestions?
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When I go into the configuration screen, I am being prompted to click Skip or Next. The text says clicking Next will format the drive. If I click Skip, can I be assured the Drive will NOT be formatted?
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How do you mean you "replaced the original 1TB drive"? With what?
As always you should have/make a backup of your data before fiddling because no one can guarantee you aren't going to loose it.
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Stick JUST the new drive in and format it, then try putting the old drive into the original slot it occupied.
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Here is what I did.
I shut down the dns-323.
I removed the left 1TB drive and inserted a 2TB drive.
I powered on the DNS-323
I formatted the 2TB drive
I shut down the DNS-323
I removed the 2TB drive and replaced the original 1TB drive
I powered on the DNS-323
Quite honestly, I don't see how doing something like this should mean a complete backup of the drive. I haven't done anything destructive. Merely removing and replacing a drive with proper shutdowns shouldn't be a danger to data integrity. I can't even count the number of times I've swapped out SATA drives in my PC's over the years.
Regardless, the DNS-323 is now asking me to click NEXT or SKIP for this 1TB drive. If I click next, can I be assured the drive will NOT be formatted? BTW, the other drive can be seen and accessed just fine.
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You should still have a backup of this data regardless.
I wouldn't have thought clicking skip would format the drive, but if it does you'll appreciate why I mentioned having a backup of your data.
It will probably keep showing you that screen anyway.
Incidently, why would you want to do what you did? You formatted a 2TB drive then removed it?
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Did you happen to put the 2TB drive also in the left?
I'd reset the NAS to factory defaults, then put the 1TB drive back in it's original slot and see how it reacts.
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(Yes, the 2TB was in the left side)
Anyway, I did click SKIP with no happiness.
I did a system reset. Now I have both drives back (YEAH!)
But now my DNS box is showing up on the network as DLINK-94E254. Is there anyway to rename it back to DNS-323.
Thanks in advance.
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I mistyped. When I said system reset I meant reset to factory defaults. Now I have this wonky name that's hard to type.
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You can change it in the network settings screen somewhere
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It's under "Device" on the main screen after you login
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Found it. Thanks!
I'm backing up the drive now.
15 hours to backup the drive
probably another 15 hours to restore the data to the new 2TB drive.
I'm glad this isn't something I do often!
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I thought you removed the 2TB drive? Maybe I just need some sleep...
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The whole purpose of this exercise was to upgrade one of the 1TB drives to a 2TB. Considering how much time it takes to copy data off/on the DNS-323 I thought I would install the new drive in the enclosure and then do a local backup which would hopefully copy the data quicker.
But, I swapped out the wrong drive, so I had to put the original 1TB back. That's when all the fun started.
So I'm backing up the 1TB drive. I will then replace it with the 2TB and do a restore. I do wish there was a faster way to do this, but at least I haven't lost any data.
(does that help Jamie?)
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But, I swapped out the wrong drive, so I had to put the original 1TB back. That's when all the fun started.
I think I see now. I was wondering why anyone would want to take a drive out, put in a 2TB drive, format it and then put everything back how it was. Glad you got it sorted anyway.
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Not a problem Jamie, I appreciate your (and others) help with this.
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Just to recap. I backed up my 1TB drive, 700GB in use - 20 hours.
Then I installed the 2TB and started the restore: 25 hours.
Somehow, this just doesn't seem right to me.
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Writing operations always take longer than reading operations.
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Yes, I understand that. What I would thought would have made more sense would be install the new drive and then do an internal copy from one nas drive to the other. Then pop out the 1TB and replace it with the original 'other' 1TB drive. I would think/hope the transfer speed would approach what we are used to seeing for SATA drives.
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Well, maybe not that fast. :) I know it's painfully slow to deal with them over the network, but there isn't that much processor available even locally to hit those speeds. :)
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My adventure continues!
As we know, I'm now restoring data to the 2TB drive from my PC. Everything is going well. With jumbo frames set to 8K I'm seeing about 12.5MB/sec.
BUT. Now when I go into the configuration side of the web interface I get this screen every single time.
(sorry, don't know how to insert an image or attach a file)
Hard Drive Configuration
This section allows you to setup a RAID configuration on the selected hard drives. Please note that the data stored on the drives will be erased during the formatting process.
Select a RAID type:
Standard (Individual Disks)
JBOD (Linear - Combines Both Disks)
RAID 0 (Striping - Best Performance)
RAID 1 (Mirroring - Keeps Data Safe)
I don't want the drives raided, the first option is selected. It lists the two drives correctly. I click SKIP and it goes to the config screen. I tried clicking NEXT and it prompts to format the drives.
I'd really like the NAS to just accept the drives the way they are.
Any suggestions are appreciated. Thanks!
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You say after a reset it didn't do that anymore- then you formatted your drives ok and all was well, but since copying the files back the problem has reappeared?
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It would seem this message pops up anytime a drive is inserted into the box, whether it needs formatting or not.
I think what I have to do is another reset to factory defaults after the massive copy finishes. I sure hope that works, these copies take a long time.
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The adventure STILL continues.
Doing a factory reset did clear out the opening RAID/format dialogue, so that is good.
But now, the new 2TB is formatted as 1TB!
I'm running 1.08. Should I just reformat the drive and start again? BTW, the WD drive is on the supported drive list.
HARD DRIVE INFO :
Total Drive(s): 2
Volume Name: Volume_1
Volume Type: Standard
Total Hard Drive Capacity: 983454 MB
Used Space: 800423 MB
Unused Space: 183030 MB
Volume Name: Volume_2
Volume Type: Standard
Total Hard Drive Capacity: 983454 MB
Used Space: 521734 MB
Unused Space: 461719 MB
PHYSICAL DISK INFO :
Slot Vendor Model Serial Number Size
Right Seagate ST31000340AS 9QJ1Y1QC 1000 G
Left WDC WD20EADS-00R6B0 WD-WCAVY1856445 2000 G
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I'll answer my own post. I have no idea why, but I reformatted as EXT2 again, and all is good. Just kicked off the 12 (?) hour restore.
I think my adventure is coming to an end.
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Nope - no idea either only that if you had a RAID array on their before it might have something to do with it. It would have only used 1TB of the 2TB drive when you created one.
EXT3 is apparently more reliable a file system than EX2 btw.
If there's a next time, maybe load an external tool on those drives to remove the partitions/write zeros over the drive to make sure the NAS sees it as a fresh drive.
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No raid in place, don't quite understand the point of raid on a box like this. But I'm glad it formatted to the right size.
My understanding, probably flawed, is that EXT3 has journaling which makes more sense in a computer scenario where files may need to be restored in the event of a power failure. I also saw that EXT2 performs better which is more important to me.
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If you're running EXT2, I'd suggest a UPS to ride out any power issues. I've formatted my D-Link NAS boxes EXT3 to have the extra security of journaling.
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Thanks for the advice.
In my case, I use it for my music collection, video collection, backup of PC's in the home and backup of software. So 99% of operations are read instead of write.
If I was using it in some type of database read/write scenario I think a power failure would be a bigger issue. BTW, the reason I don't use for daily use is the poor performance.
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The very reason I now have a Synology DS209 as my primary NAS, 3-4 times as fast as the DNS-323! :D
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I would definitely go for performance the second time around. For now, I'll toddle along with my 323. At least it's fast enough to stream 1080p video!