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Title: 4 Years of Glory!
Post by: Kamikazi2142 on August 09, 2012, 04:17:45 AM
After 4 strong and powerful years, my DGL-4500 (Codenamed: Flagship) has died.  It granted me several glorious battles in Star Trek Online and World of Tanks today, then went for its grave.  After several attempts to revive this with hard boots and resets, it locks up and fails.  Flagship got really hot the past couple days, this week was its worst heat exposure ever, reaching well over 100F, this morning at around 2:30am it just couldn't dish out anymore greatness.

The DHCP host began having errors, the OLED display was artifacting, the device would warm up rather fast, and worst of all, it just quit working.

It still boots up trying to live, but doesn't last long.  Its a sad way to die for Flagship, but its life holds high honor.  Klingons would respect Flagship.

**please excuse my game-geek lingo, its been a very disappointing night, and i'm trying to lighten it up.
Title: Re: 4 Years of Glory!
Post by: FurryNutz on August 09, 2012, 06:01:01 AM
Try resetting it? Possible power supply is going bad? If not, find a used 4500 out there or time to get a DIR series router.  ::)
Title: Re: 4 Years of Glory!
Post by: Kamikazi2142 on August 09, 2012, 11:34:12 PM
yeah, i've opened it up to see if there were any visual signs of heat damage, but none were seen, i removed the WiFi Atheros Card inside it and installed a fan tapped right into the power supply, i did a 1.15 firmware downgrade which has rendered almost all functions null, it still grants IP's but has no other functionality, i even tried upgrading back to 1.23NA which was futile since this downgrade hack doesn't seem to work properly, after tinkering around i have determined that the WAN/Internet port is dead, there is no user traffic through WAN it would seem the router within died leaving a 4port switch.

i have tested the power supply, idk how many amps its running but its almost at 10vdc... i have no way to get another one of these power supplies, so Flagship is dying of starvation? this will not do.  how can i fix the power supply on my own, could i build one?

i currently have a DIR-625 in its place, i'm not enjoying the lack of Gigabit Ethernet, or the fact that my Wifi device was the DIR-625 converted to AP mode, so now the wifi is greatly weakened.  but now that i have this info maybe it won't be long until Flagship is back in the frontline of my network.
Title: Re: 4 Years of Glory!
Post by: FurryNutz on August 10, 2012, 05:55:34 AM
You to can continue the glory:

Can find power supplies there too.  :o

"Find and fulfill your destiny!"  ;D (http://www.ebay.com/itm/271032694444?ru=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com%2Fsch%2Fi.html%3F_sacat%3D0%26_nkw%3D271032694444%26_rdc%3D1[/url)
Title: Re: 4 Years of Glory!
Post by: JavaLawyer on August 10, 2012, 06:47:57 AM
After 4 strong and powerful years, my DGL-4500 (Codenamed: Flagship) has died. . .  its been a very disappointing night, and i'm trying to lighten it up.

I'd like to offer my condolences for your loss

(http://www.wholeblossoms.com/images/Flowers-By-Color.jpg)
Title: Re: 4 Years of Glory!
Post by: Kamikazi2142 on August 10, 2012, 07:59:12 AM
Thank you JavaLawyer.

I'm going to look that over FurryNutz.
-As i'm tight for cash these days, i'll see where it goes in the next day, i'm more looking for a way to just replace the PSU module instead of buy a whole new unit.

Will keep you posted.
I found the Downgrade Firmware here (http://www.ispgeeks.com/wild/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=4224).
It would seem it has worked well for many others.
Title: Re: 4 Years of Glory!
Post by: FurryNutz on August 10, 2012, 08:02:41 AM
Thats the same one I got a few years back to test out. It worked for me. Maybe it will bring some life back to the old girl. I would get another one anyways. Just in case. If you can get life back, then you'll have a back up ready for when old girl finally gives up the ghost.  ;)
Title: Re: 4 Years of Glory!
Post by: FurryNutz on August 10, 2012, 08:04:42 AM
Also wondering does old girl work as an AP, if you turned off everything accept for wireless, does wireless work?  ???
Title: Re: 4 Years of Glory!
Post by: Kamikazi2142 on August 10, 2012, 08:19:47 AM
wait is that your post?

and yes if i can find that site i used to help learn me how to convert any router into a Switch/AP, i link it here... seems to look like you just make a crossover cable and disable DHCP then connect into one of the LAN ports... i don't remember much more to this than that however, my memory isn't the best after all...
Title: Re: 4 Years of Glory!
Post by: FurryNutz on August 10, 2012, 08:22:45 AM
This one? Turning a router into an AP. (http://forums.dlink.com/index.php?topic=40856.0)
Title: Re: 4 Years of Glory!
Post by: Kamikazi2142 on August 10, 2012, 08:28:01 AM
no i learned it somewheres else, sorry, also, the last line in your post you misspelled "longer" as "loger"

by "your post" i meant on eBay, is that your post on eBay?
Title: Re: 4 Years of Glory!
Post by: FurryNutz on August 10, 2012, 08:34:18 AM
You don't need a cross over cable at all. Just turn everything off and give a new IP address to the router, usually 192.168.0.50.

No thats not mine. Just did a search.
Title: Re: 4 Years of Glory!
Post by: Kamikazi2142 on August 10, 2012, 08:42:46 AM
oh, and did you mean Flagship as a AP? not sure, didn't even try, can't now after installing that fan in place of the WiFi device slot.  I suppose i could rip it out, but i did glue it in... and from what i saw there are at least 2 circuits running under it...

from previous experience though, Flagship doesn't handle Wifi... at all, locks up and dies with WiFi enabled.  Probably why i didn't even consider it... and with it being set as an AP that would defeat the purpose of having it which is two fold, A for Gaming done in the Network, and B for Gigabit.

I know that is what is said, but i guess my DIR-625 is picky, or ******ed, either way, it sat there like a tumor with a regular patch cable, made it a Crossover and zoom there it went... so... i assumed that awesome feature that auto detects and switches the port accordingly was left out of the DIR-625, but that's for another topic thread.

Oh, i thought when you said, "thats the same one I got a few years back to test out" that you had just popped yours up there lol
Title: Re: 4 Years of Glory!
Post by: FurryNutz on August 10, 2012, 08:46:18 AM
I use my 4500 as a 5Ghz AP for gaming, however I have 3 4500's  ;D

Well hope you an get it going, if not, find another or get into something newer. I've enjoyed all the routers i've tested so far. The DIR-825, 857, 655 and 645 can hold a candle to the 4500 in many ways. I have all of them.

Title: Re: 4 Years of Glory!
Post by: Kamikazi2142 on August 10, 2012, 08:51:08 AM
O.O your house is my heaven now.

also... i have been thinking of upgrading, any suggestions? i saw a 655 which is just the same as the 4500 without the gamefuel...
(http://www.ebay.com/itm/D-Link-DIR-655-300-Mbps-4-Port-Gigabit-Wireless-N-Router-86285E-/290757125693?_trksid=p4340.m1982&_trkparms=aid%3D555001%26algo%3DPW.CURRENT%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D7%26meid%3D1230486907468507342%26pid%3D100009%26prg%3D1004%26rk%3D7%26#ht_500wt_1414 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/D-Link-DIR-655-300-Mbps-4-Port-Gigabit-Wireless-N-Router-86285E-/290757125693?_trksid=p4340.m1982&_trkparms=aid%3D555001%26algo%3DPW.CURRENT%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D7%26meid%3D1230486907468507342%26pid%3D100009%26prg%3D1004%26rk%3D7%26#ht_500wt_1414))

But i kinda am familiar with the 4500 already and honestly i am explorative, but when it comes to the 5 others using the internet 24/7 i don't want to be "learning" a new router while they are trying to use it you know?

i found this...
(http://www.ebay.com/itm/Genuine-D-Link-Switching-AC-Adapter-AG2412-B-12V-2A-/220804656197?pt=US_Server_Power_Supplies&hash=item3368fbac45#ht_3080wt_1397 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Genuine-D-Link-Switching-AC-Adapter-AG2412-B-12V-2A-/220804656197?pt=US_Server_Power_Supplies&hash=item3368fbac45#ht_3080wt_1397))
think i'll just give this a go...
Title: Re: 4 Years of Glory!
Post by: FurryNutz on August 10, 2012, 09:06:01 AM
Gamefuel and QoS are the same. No much difference. The 655 works just as well as the 645 does. I think the 645 does better. The 5 others wont even notice. One thing to consider for future use, 5Ghz support if your in an area congested by 2.4Ghz, IPv6. Which all newer routers support accept for the 6 Series, there 2.4Ghz only. Keep us posted.
Title: Re: 4 Years of Glory!
Post by: FurryNutz on August 10, 2012, 09:17:31 AM
BTW, that 655 on ebay looks like a Rev A, I would not get that Rev. Rev B is the Rev you want. Rev Bs have a black front face instead of a while or gray looking one as I believe the one on ebay is. Rev B supports IPv6, Rev A will not and is no longer being developed.
Title: Re: 4 Years of Glory!
Post by: Kamikazi2142 on August 10, 2012, 09:23:25 AM
well, i found this... (http://www.gadgettown.com/Switching-Power-Supply-12V-2A.html) and will be giving it a try first... i just need to find a way to ground it... maybe through the Cable on the Cable Modem....

When i can i'll post pictures of my Gateway/Network box i have outside... i know, outside = bad place, but due to demand i had to install it there.
Title: Re: 4 Years of Glory!
Post by: FurryNutz on August 10, 2012, 09:28:54 AM
I would recommend an OEM power supply. Any DLink 12v 2A will work. Even ones from there DLink routers, just not the DIR-645. It's a 5A.
Title: Re: 4 Years of Glory!
Post by: FurryNutz on August 10, 2012, 09:43:49 AM
Outside? Outside as in out side in nature?  ???
Title: Re: 4 Years of Glory!
Post by: Kamikazi2142 on August 10, 2012, 10:24:49 AM
it is locked up in a security lock box with an AC 120mm fan mounted to it pumping the hot air through it... the fan is a new addition, used to be just the box, the Modem was the hottest thing in there, but now it doesn't get so hot, thanks to the fan, but yes, outside, and thankfully, the humidity doesn't get high around here.
Title: Re: 4 Years of Glory!
Post by: FurryNutz on August 10, 2012, 11:41:50 AM
Still, makes me wonder if some external environment played a part in functionality of the router  ???
Title: Re: 4 Years of Glory!
Post by: FurryNutz on August 10, 2012, 11:48:09 AM
Hmm, thats a pretty good deal on that 4500 on ebay,  :o hmmm. I would get it before someone else does, hehe.  ;D
Title: Re: 4 Years of Glory!
Post by: Kamikazi2142 on August 13, 2012, 10:01:46 AM
i got the switching power supply for 12.99 hopefully this fixes the issue, if not, then i'll have a spare 12vdc 2A switching power supply laying around... i agree getting another DGL-4500 would seem to be a much better bargain but, mine is unique.  When i get Flagship running again, it will be that much better to me.
Title: Re: 4 Years of Glory!
Post by: FurryNutz on August 13, 2012, 10:03:46 AM
Keep us posted.  ;)
Title: Re: 4 Years of Glory!
Post by: Kamikazi2142 on August 17, 2012, 06:17:02 PM
got the power supply, and the only thing i can assume now is that with the failing power supply when i did the firmware downgrade something didn't quite finish, so now i can't do anything with it, the power supply is supposed to be 12VDC however i'm getting 11.5VDC 1.5 more than the DLink adapter, and it still won't act properly, so, i am asking this new question, is there an alternative method to reprogram this device?
Title: Re: 4 Years of Glory!
Post by: FurryNutz on August 17, 2012, 06:44:47 PM
Unfortuneately, unlike the DIR series, there isnt a recovery mode for the DGL. At least that is known.  :(
Title: Re: 4 Years of Glory!
Post by: Kamikazi2142 on August 17, 2012, 09:34:38 PM
well... then i guess Flagship is dead, and i am disturbed that i took part in it...
Title: Re: 4 Years of Glory!
Post by: FurryNutz on August 17, 2012, 10:13:43 PM
get you another man...
Title: Re: 4 Years of Glory!
Post by: Kamikazi2142 on August 17, 2012, 10:17:17 PM
call me stubborn but i'm gonna get this one working one way or another!!

http://www.jtagtest.com/pinouts/mpc_bdm
i think this is the pinout for the jumper on the PCB... might need a COM port eventually...
Title: Re: 4 Years of Glory!
Post by: FurryNutz on August 17, 2012, 10:22:54 PM
Good luck man.
Title: Re: 4 Years of Glory!
Post by: Kamikazi2142 on August 17, 2012, 10:26:56 PM
What the f*** this router has preinstalled audio drivers???? they are part of the Ubicom uClinux that is in there...

learned here:
http://www.dd-wrt.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=30737&sid=a8fbcfe6661237d418beadfd521a2969

also it would appear that the DGL-4500, DIR-655, DIR-660, and DIR-855 are all the same processor family, all printed on the same PCB layout.
Title: Re: 4 Years of Glory!
Post by: FurryNutz on August 17, 2012, 10:36:51 PM
Just part of the SDK stuff that Ubicom does. The core code was used in many applications. Nothing and end user can use though.
Title: Re: 4 Years of Glory!
Post by: Kamikazi2142 on August 17, 2012, 11:35:54 PM
1. i almost clicked "remove topic" accidentally, that would have been upsetting.

2. you say "SDK" where can i find this?

3. i have a feeling that if i can create a COM port by wiring into that 2x5 pin option on the PCB that i can fix it.  And open a grand opportunity for the user to further push this router by us users.

4. any ideas as to where to look for more development options?  Maybe DLink has declassified the secrets to the PCB?  Any way to start up a petition for an "Advanced User" service? something like, "Jail breaking" the DGL-4500?
Title: Re: 4 Years of Glory!
Post by: FurryNutz on August 19, 2012, 09:58:29 AM
Any and all board level information is IP and strictly confidential and DLink does not give that information to the public. Sorry man. Im sure theres another good working used 4500 out there just waiting for a good home.  ;D
Title: Re: 4 Years of Glory!
Post by: FurryNutz on August 28, 2012, 07:24:32 AM
You get you another 4500 dude?