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The Graveyard - Products No Longer Supported => Routers / COVR => DIR-825 => Topic started by: Howard Black on May 21, 2019, 05:20:37 AM
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Yes, I know this router is old. Well, so am I.. :(
Our Belkin F7D7301 v1 is on death's doorstep, and my wife needs it for work, and my son "needs" it for his games. I went to Newegg and found the least expensive router with 802.11n and gigabit Ethernet, that could be configured as an access point. (We live in uber-rural Michigan and our "high"-speed Inet uses an antenna that's aimed at a tower a mile away. They don't say much, but as best as I can figure, it's just a WiFi router that's aimed at their system. They had to "de-configure" the Belkin (which I'd hand-rigged to work with the dialup connection we endured until this outfit showed up).
I know there are beaucoup faster routers available, but this one is already faster than our provider can provide (and is apt to ever provide). So, old or not, it's more than we need, and as my Social Security doesn't provide much "fun" money, corners get cut whenever possible. C'est la merde...
OK, enough small talk.
I downloaded everything I could find for this router, including a firmware update which it may or may not need to have applied. But, I searched the ****ens out of the site and could NOT find that $%$@#% installation disc.
I know I can manually set up the router, but I'd rather have the installer do the first pass (I'll need to go back anyway to switch it into access point mode) -- but, I'd much prefer to be able to just type in "dlinkrouter" instead of the IP address. (I guess I'm spoiled -- with the Belkin I just type "router" and there I go.) I assume that I'll need the install CD to set that up, unless I want to go spelunking in the HOSTS file. I don't.)
Any ideas?
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Link>Welcome! (http://forums.dlink.com/index.php?topic=49573.0)
- What Hardware version is your router? Look at sticker under the router case.
- Link>What Firmware (http://forums.dlink.com/index.php?topic=47512.0) version is currently loaded? Found on the routers web page under status.
- What region are you located?
Just walk thru the setup wizard at 192.168.0.1 in a web browser to set up the router. It the same as using the CD.
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Hmm I cannot find the CD software. It is not posted on the support site and it is not on the FTP server.
You do not need the CD. Like furry said, just go to 192.168.0.1 and run the wizard.
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I don't remember the 835 having a setup CD. There was a time frame when D-Link cut off in box CDs I believe. ::)
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Yes it was around 2014ish. The QIG from 2011 shows a CD setup.
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AH ok. At any rate, on board setup wizard will get the router setup. ;)
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Link>Welcome! (http://forums.dlink.com/index.php?topic=49573.0)
- What Hardware version is your router? Look at sticker under the router case.
- Link>What Firmware (http://forums.dlink.com/index.php?topic=47512.0) version is currently loaded? Found on the routers web page under status.
- What region are you located?
Just walk thru the setup wizard at 192.168.0.1 in a web browser to set up the router. It the same as using the CD.
My region is Michigan, as mentioned above.
The label says H/W Ver.:A1 F/W Ver.:1.01
I do not think that IP will work for me. This is an unusual config I am straddling. There is NO typical "broadband modem" -- there is what I believe is a WiFi router mounted on a pole they bolted to the top of our yard light. It is aimed at a tower about a mile away. Our highest bandwidth is a tad over two megabytes per second. This is the highest speed available, and costs us about $100 a month. A lot of folks are spoiled by their cheap FAST connections. We do not have that option. It was only about two years ago that we were finally able to get away from dialup modem access.
The "thing" on the pole is made by Ubiquiti -- it is a "LiteBeam 5AC Gen2" according to the login page, for which we do not have access, even though we purchased the thing. It's IP is 192.168.3.1 and when they set things up they completely wiped my router's settings (for which I sweated long and hard getting to work with our dialup modem), and put it into Access Point mode, and set its IP to 192.168.3.2 -- which is where I'll need to put THIS router (after setting IT to Access Point mode).
When I need to go into it to do things like restart it, change the password, and so forth, I'd REALLY like to be able to simply type "dlinkrouter" rather than an IP address, just as I now enter "router" into my browser's address.
THIS is the main reason I want the CD (and I assume that this model was supplied with one, because the manuals walk me through its use!)
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If you connect any PC wired or wireless to the 835 you'll get a 192.168.0.something address on the PC, so accessing the routers web page at 192.168.0.1 will be the default access point that you can access the setup wizard that will walk you thru the setup of the router same as the CD would. The CD is no longer available. The setup wizard on the router will help you get it setup.
If you don't think this will work, I would recommend that you have your ISP or someone with router setup knowledge help you with getting the 835 setup with the ISP service.
If the 835 needs to be setup as in AP mode it can support that:
Turning a router into an AP. (http://forums.dlink.com/index.php?topic=40856.0)
I have this same router.
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I'm sure I'll be able to set it up. I just want to minimize the PITA factor.
Apparently that is an indication of some personal flaw on my part.
Why they could not simply provide an ISO for that disc is possibly the most effective NEGATIVE advertising imaginable. They provide every other conceivable collection of bits, but that ONE stupid thing is verboten? WHY???
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Cost of developing CD Software, testing it and the Mfr'g. Easier to have built in setup wizards then external setup media.
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What "cost""? It was already developed! They just opted to not supply it with refurbed routers! When this was originally sold it came with the CD. The only "cost" would be the cost of an entry-level employee making an ISO file of the CD and putting it on the list of already available files for download (manual, firmware, etc.)
We're talking, what, fifteen minutes or so?
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Something D-Link chose not to do. Also takes up web space for something not used very often. So again, not needed anymore.
Anyways, does the onboard setup wizard help you get the router going? ???
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Did you try setting up without the CD?
I cannot find the software. It is not on our FTP site, or in my archives. I do not see it in the global database. The CD will not work with Windows 10.
Manual - start with page 13 - ftp://FTP2.DLINK.COM/PRODUCTS/DIR-835/REVA/DIR-835_MANUAL_1.00_EN.PDF (ftp://FTP2.DLINK.COM/PRODUCTS/DIR-835/REVA/DIR-835_MANUAL_1.00_EN.PDF)
The CD basically does the same thing.
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Something D-Link chose not to do.
Obviously.
Also takes up web space for something not used very often. So again, not needed anymore.
Oh, please, lame argument. It would take up far less space than a day's traffic on this forum. Space is cheap, and the amount it would take is trivial.
Anyways, does the onboard setup wizard help you get the router going? ???
I'll know once the caffeine hints my synapses. (My son won't shut up about it. "Is it almost set up? How is your progress? Is your research paying off? Blah blah blah blah blah..."
All I wanted was to be able to type "dlinkrouter" into the bloody address line, argh....
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You can type "dlinkrouter.local." into the address bar.
Is your computer in a LAN port on the dlink router? If yes, then open a browser and type "dlinkrouter.local.".
Please answer my questions. We are trying to help but you are not answering if you can connect and run the wizard.
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Did you try setting up without the CD?
I am about to.
I cannot find the software. It is not on our FTP site, or in my archives. I do not see it in the global database.
Well, it's somewhere! I can't believe that each and every CD that was stamped has gone to the great bitbucket in the sky.
Maybe after all is said and done I'll buy one on fleabay.
The CD will not work with Windows 10.
No offense, but I don't always believe that (nor do I believe that even if true, it can't be made to run. In one of my earlier lives I built computers, did "consulting" for gov't offices (hardware and software -- specialized in the impossible, i.e., getting a serial printer to work on a machine for which it was "impossible" (in this case by stealing a handshake line and coercing it into serving a role for which it was never intended) and so forth), and then, after my body was ruined by a doped up driver, made some "easy money" writing book/magazine articles on software development (Que, Fawcette, etc., was at one point a Contributing Editor for Visual Studio Magazine -- don't bother looking me up, I was using my real life name back then).
[[PS: as long as I'm honking my own horn, some of my work was referenced in the Visual Studio help files. VS 5 or 6, can't remember which, it's been a while. I found out when a friend mentioned it to me while we were "doing lunch."]]
Manual - start with page 13 - ftp://FTP2.DLINK.COM/PRODUCTS/DIR-835/REVA/DIR-835_MANUAL_1.00_EN.PDF (ftp://FTP2.DLINK.COM/PRODUCTS/DIR-835/REVA/DIR-835_MANUAL_1.00_EN.PDF)
I downloaded (and parsed) the manual (and everything else I could find, including the file that wasn't shown on the "consumer" tab of the download page) before I posted anything here.
The CD basically does the same thing.
I am assuming it also hotwires my OS to allow me to enter "dlinkrouter" as a URL...
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You can type "dlinkrouter.local." into the address bar.
Is your computer in a LAN port on the dlink router? If yes, then open a browser and type "dlinkrouter.local.".
Please answer my questions. We are trying to help but you are not answering if you can connect and run the wizard.
Hallelujah! Finally something I can use! (Sorry that I am unable to use "Just enter the IP, you idiot!" style "help.")
Yes, my machine is cabled into the current dying router, and will be plugged into this one in just a few minutes.
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So did you get the router up and running? ???
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So did you get the router up and running? ???
Nope.
I am now officially frustrated (I much preferred my previous state of being officially perturbed.)
I tried everything -- "by the book" -- I tried letting the router supply my PC's IP. I tried "hard"-setting my IP to one that should have worked. No matter what I tried, I was unable to connect to the router.
I finally went and looked at the Ethernet adapter's icon (in "Network Settings") -- it said "Network Cable Unplugged" no matter what I did (and yes, I did check the power plug -- and, the power-on LED.
So... am I missing something pathetically obvious? Or is this item DOA?
PS: I was trying to access via IP, not by name.
PPS: I also sat here watching the icon as I had my son move the Ethernet cable through all of the ports. The message never changed until he plugged it back into the old router.
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Try different PC and swap out lan cables?
Ensure your PCs networking is setup auto obtain IP addressing?
What OS platform are you using? Windows or Mac?
With just a PC and the 835, the PC should get an IP address with out the 835 connected to any modem or other router. Factory reset the 835 with the PC connected to the LAN port. Press in the reset button in back for 10 seconds. Should get an IP address of 192.168.0.something on the PC.
Can a wireless device connect to the default wireless SSID after the reset?
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Try different PC and swap out lan cables?
Ensure your PCs networking is setup auto obtain IP addressing?
What OS platform are you using? Windows or Mac?
With just a PC and the 835, the PC should get an IP address with out the 835 connected to any modem or other router.
The PC and cable are fine. Want proof? How about this post, sent from the PC over that cable (to the old router).
As I said, I tried dynamic IP supplied by the router, I tried manual IP -- and then I saw that the problem was at a much lower level, i.e., the router was invisible to the PC at a hardware level.
Same concept as trying to recover files from a storage device which cannot be seen by the computer (ran into that nightmare only once (recently), when the SD card in my Sony Reader went flat dead.
No recovery software could do a bloody thing, since the machine could not detect a card present. (Big difference between an fsck'd up file system and a DEAD device!) (In the Days of Yore (MFM/RLL days, with "dead reckoning" (stepper motor) head positioning, this was sadly not that uncommon an experience.)
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I tried the reset for (over) ten seconds. The power LED cycled when I was done. I powered down/up for good measure.
No joy. (This was all before my desperation post above.)
Will see if a wifi device can see it, brb...
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OK, my son reports that he sees "dlink" and "dlink_media"
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Can he Connect to it using the default PW?
Sounds like the LAN ports on the 835 are probably dead. This was a known issue with this model and it's DAP-1533 unit. D-Link used composite heat sink tabs in these units in stead of better metallic ones. I did a mod on mine and kept it running to help prevent the LAN ports and other things from dying.
http://forums.dlink.com/index.php?topic=56166.0 (http://forums.dlink.com/index.php?topic=56166.0)
I recommend that you return the unit and get into a newer generation router anyways. The 835 isn't developed on any more thus it doesn't cover some of the current wifi bugs and such that are now protected by newer generation routers. The DIR-878 would be something you should check out. Good router. Gave mine to a family member in there new home.
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Can he Connect to it using the default PW?
Here's a screencap of what he got on my wife's (Mac) laptop.
Well, scrap that idea. Doesn't seem to be any way to insert an image (that isn't on a website).
If there's some Seekrit method for uploading an image, let me know and I'll post it. Otherwise, this will have to suffice: It was a setup screen, which at the top says "WELCOME TO THE D-LINK SETUP WIZARD" (Followed by, "This wizard will guide you through a step-by-step blah blah blah..."
Looks like dead hardware. I hate this crap -- mostly because of all the work I put into finding out what I did wrong, when it finally turns out I didn't do anything wrong.
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Ya, sorry about that. Some refurbs not not fully or correctly tested before they get repackaged and re-sold. Just turning on a device doesn't mean it works.
Look in to the DIR-878. I picked on up for cheap on Amazon earlier this year.
Future ref:
Adding Screenshots In A Post - Adding Screenshots In A Post (http://forums.dlink.com/index.php?topic=58120.0)
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Thx, here ya go (pointless, I know...)
PS: That site gave me a URL that was sans filename. I had to right-click on the image, get image properties, and copy the full URL (with filename after the dir name).
(https://i.ibb.co/0s2bymW/Screen-Shot-2019-05-29-at-4-14-47-PM.png)
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Thats the setup wizard, same as what used to be on CDs.
Send it back and let the seller know the LAN ports are dead in back. The unit is EOL so probably chuck it in the trash since it's way out of warranty and no longer supported by D-Link. :-\
Give the DIR-878 or 882 a try. Good Luck.
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Thanks. It's now out of my hands. I gathered up all the bits (router, antennae, little bitty bag with wall-mounting screws and a set of spare feet[???] and wall-wart), and handed it all off to my wife. (SWMBO handles "logistics" in this madhouse.)
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PS: Just to make my life sublime, my son screeches "Let's drive to Muskegon and buy a router!" to which I reply that we need to wait to see if they are going to give us a refund, or insist on replacing it with an identical unit.
He then repeats his screech.
Seven decades I endure this lunatic planet, and now I get to endure an "autism spectrum" teenager.
At least Michigan made The Evil Weed legal. Now where did I put that stuff?
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Let us know how it goes.
If anything you can have mine. ;) Thought I would recommend a newer generation router for security reasons. ::)
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Let us know how it goes.
If anything you can have mine. ;) Thought I would recommend a newer generation router for security reasons. ::)
Your son, or your router?
If the former, OK, but only if it's a trade! :)
If the latter, how much (including shipping to Michigan)? [seriously]
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Well the one Son I have is four legged. :o
Pay shipping?
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So checking on this refurb I have ;D and correctly testing it out, I'm typing this while connected to it via wired connection to the back of the 835 thats connected behind a different router.
Speed test is good too:
https://www.speedtest.net/my-result/d/0b4eddeb-cfb4-4c19-9f98-b5c371b09469 (https://www.speedtest.net/my-result/d/0b4eddeb-cfb4-4c19-9f98-b5c371b09469)
My iPhone seems to top out at about 140Mbps and my Galaxy pad is hitting 120Mbps. This is good for wifi.
Its working. :D
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Well the one Son I have is four legged. :o
Pay shipping?
I have ten cats. I have all the four legged dependents I need. (Maybe more than I need; two of them lick my nose every time I try to get some sleep. But, one is a jet black kitten that's too cute for words, and the other is getting on in years and pathetically loyal. So, I endure...)
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So checking on this refurb I have ;D and correctly testing it out, I'm typing this while connected to it via wired connection to the back of the 835 thats connected behind a different router.
Speed test is good too:
https://www.speedtest.net/my-result/d/0b4eddeb-cfb4-4c19-9f98-b5c371b09469 (https://www.speedtest.net/my-result/d/0b4eddeb-cfb4-4c19-9f98-b5c371b09469)
My iPhone seems to top out at about 140Mbps and my Galaxy pad is hitting 120Mbps. This is good for wifi.
Its working. :D
Not sure if you're referring to megabyte or megabits per sec.
The fastest speed (download direction) I can get from our "fast" provider is roughly 2.2 megabytes per second. That's using the "DownThemAll" download manager, set to use seven concurrent download segments (to minimize handshake overhead).
How much do you want for the router, and what model is it? I'll pass the info over to "management" -- the decision is ultimately hers.
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Same DIR-835. $40?
I'm on a 200/10 ISP service here.