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Author Topic: Issues with NAT and 2 XBOX's (RESOLVED)  (Read 86091 times)

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Re: Issues with NAT and 2 XBOX's (RESOLVED)
« Reply #135 on: March 20, 2013, 08:28:04 AM »

I run several actually. Test gaming, wifi and functionality on a end user basis and problem reproduction. Also gain the experiences with all the different features.

Ya, 4500 was good while online. I was impressed with the 825 and recently the 826L. I'm not impressed with the 601 series. And thats mostly due to marketing I think and it being a single or limited user and feature kind of router. It does work well though. Doesn't work well for multiple gaming platforms due to the custom QoS rules not being included. Over all the other 6 Series routers work well for gaming.

We are all hoping that the 5500 will be as good or even better than the 4500. Only thing that can hold a candle to the 4500 is the 8 series routers.  ::)
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Re: Issues with NAT and 2 XBOX's (RESOLVED)
« Reply #136 on: March 20, 2013, 02:46:01 PM »

Only thing that Dlink makes that is. ::grin::
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Re: Issues with NAT and 2 XBOX's (RESOLVED)
« Reply #137 on: March 20, 2013, 04:22:08 PM »

 ??? in reference too?

Only thing that Dlink makes that is. ::grin::
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Re: Issues with NAT and 2 XBOX's (RESOLVED)
« Reply #138 on: March 20, 2013, 07:38:00 PM »

In reference to

"We are all hoping that the 5500 will be as good or even better than the 4500. Only thing that can hold a candle to the 4500 is the 8 series routers. "

Don't get me wrong, I like Dlink routers, or else I wouldn't be here. Buuuuut...I don't they are the King of the Hill anymore.
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Re: Issues with NAT and 2 XBOX's (RESOLVED)
« Reply #139 on: March 21, 2013, 07:04:05 AM »

To each his own.  ;D
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Re: Issues with NAT and 2 XBOX's (RESOLVED)
« Reply #140 on: March 21, 2013, 07:05:31 AM »

aww man I was about to grab some popcorn :)
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Re: Issues with NAT and 2 XBOX's (RESOLVED)
« Reply #141 on: March 21, 2013, 07:10:11 AM »

He's an ASUS guy.  :P
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Re: Issues with NAT and 2 XBOX's (RESOLVED)
« Reply #142 on: March 21, 2013, 07:16:49 AM »

are their routers good? I always thought their PC's were kinda low end but then again I don't keep up with PC's really. Mac guy here.

Not because I am a snob I have just always used them in my line of work (commercial art).
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Re: Issues with NAT and 2 XBOX's (RESOLVED)
« Reply #143 on: March 21, 2013, 07:29:58 AM »

He seems to think so. I had a chance to look over the UI on on of his. Nice. Never had a chance to put one online yet. DLink (maybe) not king of the hill however do just fine IMO.

Mac Guy here too.. I'll post a question in the OT thread...

Not a snob here either but they do work well. Until Yesterday.  :-\
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Re: Issues with NAT and 2 XBOX's (RESOLVED)
« Reply #144 on: March 21, 2013, 07:34:31 AM »

ha! what happened? I used to do pretty well with all my friends asking me to fix their macs. Then OS X came along and I don't hear from anyone any more because they just hum right along.

I haven't had a computer issue in a long long time. (knocking on wood)
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Re: Issues with NAT and 2 XBOX's (RESOLVED)
« Reply #146 on: March 21, 2013, 03:19:39 PM »

Your a Mac guy and you don't use a Airport? For shame. ::grin:: And yes, Macbooks are very nice laptops. I have nothing against Mac hardware, its just business practices of locking things down and taking away control I don't like. They see it as a trade off, better quality control if they can reduce variables. But as the quote goes "I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending too much liberty than to those attending too small a degree of it."

As for Asus routers and comparing them to Dlink routers, its no contest. Look at the data, check out Tom's Hardware and Smallnetbuilder, look at the feature sets. Heck, open one up and look at the build quality. Look at the PCB and the chipsets and the heat sinks. Asus makes motherboards and its pretty easy to say they make the best ones on the market. The qualities that make a good motherboard easily translate into a good router. I am not saying Dlink couldn't make a better router, I am saying they have decided to not to. They are aiming for a different part of the market because there is more profit there. They are cutting corners. Thats why they use internal antenna's now, thats why they have limited support, reduced firmware releases, etc. There doing exactly what Linksys did moving from the WRT54G to the WRT120N. And thats why WRT54G are still being used to this day, 10years later, while WRT120's are in the trash.
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Re: Issues with NAT and 2 XBOX's (RESOLVED)
« Reply #147 on: March 30, 2013, 11:41:22 AM »

nice info on the asus routers without being derogatory towards us dlink owners. do they have anything like gamerfuel?

i used to run airports but found them extremely limited and a huge pain in the ###. :)

I have been running well but have had a single issue since last time i posted. The other day no matter what i did both XBOX's were stuck at moderate. eventually ended up solving it by reseting the network setting to factory defaults on both consoles. Nothing wrong with the router this time :)

Any ideas why the XBOX's would freak out like this when everything has been running so smooth?
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Re: Issues with NAT and 2 XBOX's (RESOLVED)
« Reply #148 on: March 30, 2013, 11:56:22 AM »

The one time I used my 3rd gen AE was pretty good and impressed on gaming. Always green bars in the games. I haven't tried with 2 xboxes since or I can't remember if I had. I might have. Ya, setting up and configuring networking addresses seems like a pain and constrained by only a few class IP address ranges, 192, 10 or 172 I think. Not much QoS configuration options either.  ::)

Been noticing moderate NAT on my system here, just last nite and I'm not even using a DLink or the AE, testing a NG 3700 out. ::) My roommate was already online playing when I signed into BO2. Played a couple of games before I noticed NAT was Moderate. I to factory reset the network settings on my xbox and power cycled it. NAT was open after that. Makes we wonder if recent xbox updates have done something to the networking system on the boxes. I set the 3700 for same Global ports we use on DLink routers and reserved IP addresses for the boxes was about it.

Any ideas on this Harry?
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Re: Issues with NAT and 2 XBOX's (RESOLVED)
« Reply #149 on: March 30, 2013, 12:18:15 PM »

The one time I used my 3rd gen AE was pretty good and impressed on gaming. Always green bars in the games. I haven't tried with 2 xboxes since or I can't remember if I had. I might have. Ya, setting up and configuring networking addresses seems like a pain and constrained by only a few class IP address ranges, 192, 10 or 172 I think. Not much QoS configuration options either.  ::)

Been noticing moderate NAT on my system here, just last nite and I'm not even using a DLink or the AE, testing a NG 3700 out. ::) My roommate was already online playing when I signed into BO2. Played a couple of games before I noticed NAT was Moderate. I to factory reset the network settings on my xbox and power cycled it. NAT was open after that. Makes we wonder if recent xbox updates have done something to the networking system on the boxes. I set the 3700 for same Global ports we use on DLink routers and reserved IP addresses for the boxes was about it.

Any ideas on this Harry?


The NG 3700 was pretty good, AFTER I loaded DD-WRT on it haha, The Version I had, had NO QOS which sucks cause I upload a ALOT with only 2 meg upload speed so it kills the entire internet and causes gaming lag.  But DD-WRT fixed that problem quickly:) haha

I owned an Airport Extream once some of the best WiFi Coverage I`ve ever seen back in 2010 it was FAST! But at the time I only had a 6meg connection (All they offered at the time) and NO QOS once again lol) So I returned it.
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