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Author Topic: QoS Won't Measure Uplink Speed if WAN port is set to 1000 Mbps  (Read 29637 times)

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Re: QoS Won't Measure Uplink Speed if WAN port is set to 1000 Mbps
« Reply #15 on: May 03, 2012, 02:48:00 PM »

No need.

I just figured it out.

I found the bug which causes the DGL to "not" estimate the uplink speed.

When you have "Connection Type" set to "Auto-detect" - it WILL calculate the UPlink speed - (sometimes).  I did this, and rebooted about 4 times.  TWO out of 4 times, it calculated the uplink - the other two - it simply failed and said "Not Estimated".
When you have "Connection Type" set to ""Cable or Other Broadband Network" - it will NOT calculate the UPlink speed - (unless you are connected at 10/100 for a WAN port speed).

This is a definite bug - but now we have a hit-and-miss solution - (of sorts).

Thanks everyone for your input.
« Last Edit: May 03, 2012, 02:52:08 PM by icemankent »
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Re: QoS Won't Measure Uplink Speed if WAN port is set to 1000 Mbps
« Reply #16 on: May 03, 2012, 03:00:49 PM »

Iceman,

Yeah I have CAT5E cabling through out my house and use CAT6 patch cables.  My modem has no indicator of what it is connecting at so really I don't "know" for sure.  The cable tech said I would be connecting at 1000M when he installed everything and also stated to make sure I buy a gigabit router or I will have issues connecting.

IF I am connecting at 1000M, I have my connection type set to "Cable or other broadband network" and have no issues with auto uplink working.  I have my WAN speed set at 1000M.

I wonder if there is way to tell what I am connecting at???

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Re: QoS Won't Measure Uplink Speed if WAN port is set to 1000 Mbps
« Reply #17 on: May 03, 2012, 03:03:11 PM »

What model modem do you have XS?
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Re: QoS Won't Measure Uplink Speed if WAN port is set to 1000 Mbps
« Reply #18 on: May 03, 2012, 03:05:29 PM »

DPQ3212 8x4 DOCSIS 3.0 Cable Modem
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Re: QoS Won't Measure Uplink Speed if WAN port is set to 1000 Mbps
« Reply #19 on: May 03, 2012, 04:29:00 PM »

Any chance u can test a motorola 6 series?
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Re: QoS Won't Measure Uplink Speed if WAN port is set to 1000 Mbps
« Reply #20 on: May 03, 2012, 05:35:35 PM »

Nope.
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Re: QoS Won't Measure Uplink Speed if WAN port is set to 1000 Mbps
« Reply #21 on: May 03, 2012, 05:35:55 PM »

Since we're comparing notes:
My dgl-4500 is hardware version A2.
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Re: QoS Won't Measure Uplink Speed if WAN port is set to 1000 Mbps
« Reply #22 on: May 03, 2012, 08:31:44 PM »

Mine is an A2 also.  I am running Cat 6 myself.  I do have my connection type set to Auto.

Not sure if any of that information will help.  But, I think it's safe to say there is a bug. Sad thing is that it won't be fixed.  BUT, I am glad there is a workaround for it.  It's nice to have QoS working correctly.
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Re: QoS Won't Measure Uplink Speed if WAN port is set to 1000 Mbps
« Reply #23 on: May 04, 2012, 07:18:58 AM »

I'll re-configure my A2 this weekend and test it out and see.  ;)
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Re: QoS Won't Measure Uplink Speed if WAN port is set to 1000 Mbps
« Reply #24 on: May 04, 2012, 07:24:53 AM »

Since we are on the subject of correct QoS settings.  If your ISP offers speedboost where you get extra bandwidth for 60 seconds before it slows down to you minimum speed, what do you think your uplink speed should be?

For example, I have 15/2 package, if I run a burst speed test I will get 20/5.  If I run a sustained speed test my upload speed will drop from 5M to 2.5meg in 60-90 seconds and level off to about 2.2M until I stop the upload.  If I stop the speed test and restart it will do the same thing so my upload just can't sustain the much bandwidth unless there is a pause in it.

If I have my router is set to auto uplink, it measures my upload at >5M.

Anyway, if I set it to 4096 does it really effect QoS?  Would playing COD on XBL ever be effected?  I am not sure how much bandwidth is used during game play if you are host vs non host.

I played around with setting it at 2048 and 4096 to 5120 and I am not sure if I notice any difference, however I like to have everything working efficiently.

Anyone have any feedback?
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Re: QoS Won't Measure Uplink Speed if WAN port is set to 1000 Mbps
« Reply #25 on: May 04, 2012, 07:56:42 AM »

Regarding speedboost - a lot of ISPs are offering this now.
If you go to speedtest.net, you can actually see the "effects" of it.
I am not positive, but I believe that the boost is only on downloads, not uploads.
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Re: QoS Won't Measure Uplink Speed if WAN port is set to 1000 Mbps
« Reply #26 on: May 04, 2012, 07:59:38 AM »

My ISP, Cox, it effects both up and down.

Try this program out to know for sure if your ISP is using some type of speedboost (AKA traffic shaping).

http://www.cc.gatech.edu/~partha/diffprobe/shaperprobe.html

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Re: QoS Won't Measure Uplink Speed if WAN port is set to 1000 Mbps
« Reply #27 on: May 04, 2012, 08:05:28 AM »

Furrynutz,

Remember when I provided my review of the dir-857 (in the dir-857 section), and the bulk of my beefs had to do with the User Interface ?

One of my comments was that I loved the way the dgl-4500 offered the ability to see your QoS (in action) - by way of viewing Status/Internet Sessions.
The DGL displays the streams, and also the QoS priority.
This is invaluable to double-check that what you set up is actually working as it is supposed to.

Without that feature - you could set up QoS, but because of a bug in the firmware, the QoS won't work as you configured it - and the only way you'll find out is when something does not work properly.
(Like the quality degradation on my Vonage phone call).

DLink has done a great job on the UI for the dgl routers - better than its competition.
Too bad they dumbed it down for the DIR series.
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Re: QoS Won't Measure Uplink Speed if WAN port is set to 1000 Mbps
« Reply #28 on: May 04, 2012, 08:15:29 AM »

I'd like for you to post this in the FORUM USER REQUESTS and BUGS in the DIR-857 forum please. Maybe we can get them to look at this and add it back in. Post some screen shots as well for examples.
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Re: QoS Won't Measure Uplink Speed if WAN port is set to 1000 Mbps
« Reply #29 on: May 05, 2012, 05:54:13 PM »

So loading up my A2 from v1.21 to v1.23 today connected to a SB 6180, GF is detecting uplink speeds:
Time :May 5, 2012 5:34:06 PM MDT
Firmware Version :1.23NA,  2010/04/15

Default WAN Speed settings after update(Auto):
Measured Uplink Speed :2539 kbps

WAN Speed set to 1000Mb:
Measured Uplink Speed :2535 kbps

WAN Speed set to 100Mb:
Measured Uplink Speed :2538 kbps

WAN Speed set to 10Mb:
Measured Uplink Speed :2538 kbps

WAN Speed set to Auto and connected external Gb network switch between SB 6180 and 4500
Measured Uplink Speed :2541 kbps

Uplink speeds are still detected by 4500 with switch in line.
Switch is detecting speed changes from 4500 however switch maintains 1000Mb connect with SB 6180 while the 4500 is changing speeds. Kewl.

So I feel there isn't a issue with FW or the 4500's, at least with my settup using a SB 6180.

Wonder if there is something going on with the ISP modems you guys are using and the 4500 when detecting Uplinks.


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